Why we need to get on with the election

Written By: - Date published: 8:23 am, August 17th, 2020 - 114 comments
Categories: covid-19, election 2020, health, jacinda ardern, Judith Collins, uncategorized - Tags:

Auckland, and the rest of the country, has been on tenterhooks for the past week.  Are we facing a Melbourne type second wave surge?  Was our pride in being Covid free horrendously misplaced?

Because for over a hundred days we have been very happy with living in Aotearoa.  While the rest of the world struggles locally we enjoyed the ability to gather together, attend weddings and tangihanga, watch sport, catch trains and busses, hang out with family, open our businesses, and get on with life like it was 2019.

Then the bad news happened.  A South Auckland family were tested and had the virus.  Contact tracing suggested that a number of close contacts also had the disease

The past week has been a blur.  The Government has been warning us for a while that the disease would come back.  Of course it would.  It has beaten highly advanced nations such as Singapore, South Korea and Australia, countries that had it under control but then suffered from its counter attack.  It has devastated Europe.  Sweden is a mess, the rest of Scandinavia is doing better but still struggling.  China has thrown its considerable might against the virus and has it under control, but not by much.

Taiwan is doing well.  Vietnam was, but is now struggling.  Most Pacific Islands, god bless them, are doing ok but they have closed up their borders and are hanging on because the sweet sugar hit of tourism has been switched off.

But we have this desire to be world beaters.  We want to knock the bugger off.

The good news is that it appears all infections are linked to the same cluster.  The Pacific family, god bless them, had the sense to be tested and were tracking where they had been to and have since the diagnosis done everything correct.  They deserve our gratitude and our thanks that they have acted so responsibly.  Those keyboard warriors on social media who have given them abuse should frankly get stuffed.

And the genome sequencing suggests that the virus did not come from anyone in quarantine.  The cool store theory may have legs.  Collins cannot help herself suggesting that the outbreak is evidence of a quarantine failure but the genome analysis clearly indicates that it is not.

This will go one of two ways.  If this current cluster is managed and isolated and there are declining numbers of new infections over the next week then great.  Crisis averted and Jacinda’s mana will be reinforced.

If it spirals out of control or proves to be impossible to eradicate then her standing will be lessened but not by much.  We will be in the same position as the rest of the western world excepting Taiwan which will be unique in its successful handling of the virus.

Dealing with this disease is like engaging in a really important game of whack-a-mole.  But one that you cannot afford to miss.

It is interesting that a coalition of losers, including National and NZ First, has emerged and are demanding that the election is delayed.  National’s pollster has conducted a poll and hinted that Aucklanders favour a delay.  Given that he is the source of Gerry Brownlee’s “closer to 40%”comment when referring to National’s polling I think the results should be taken with a large amount of salt.  He requires people to pay to see the results and this for me would be a bridge too far.

National is demanding a delay to the election and is hinting that a withdraw of confidence may happen otherwise.  Last time I checked loss of confidence in a Government required an election to be held.

And I wonder if Collins remembers back in 1984 when National called a snap election?  The election was called on June 14 and held on July 14.  It seems there is plenty of time to restart campaigns and have the election held.

National are creating huge amounts of noise right now which suggests their concerns about not being able to campaign properly are not correct.  I wonder if the fact they have barely any released policy and are still struggling with selections has any bearing on their behaviour?

I suspect Jacinda may delay the election for a month in the hope that Auckland gets back to level 2.  But for me I would like to get on with the election so we can have a new Government set up to again address this uniquely dangerous infection.  The longer the election campaign is stretched out the greater the level of noise being generated.  I would prefer that our elected representatives just got on with the job and were not distracted by petty politics from Parties facing a disaster in the next election.

Update:  Ardern has announced a short deferral of election day to October 17.

114 comments on “Why we need to get on with the election ”

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  1. tc 1
    17 August 2020 at 8:31 am

    Agreed Mickey. Postal voting, extended polling hours to allow a gradual vote over the run up incorporating social distancing etc. Trend has been to vote more and more pre the day.

    Pure scaremongering from the opposition who have disgraced themselves during this pandemic, well true colours and all that.

  2. Robert Guyton 2
    17 August 2020 at 8:31 am

    Tenterhooks:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenterhook

    [Thanks Robert. Would you believe I have gone through my whole life thinking it was “tender hooks”? Now corrected – MS]

    • Anne 2.1
      17 August 2020 at 9:13 am

      I was 20 before I discovered you don't say 'coyar' for 'choir' so don't be too concerned mickysavage.

      About that woman Judith. She's doing her usual bully-girl thing. I doubt Jacinda and her team will take a blind bit of notice.

    • Robert Guyton 2.2
      17 August 2020 at 9:25 am

      As did I, MS, till it was pointed out to me smiley

  3. lprent 3
    17 August 2020 at 8:39 am

    Those keyboard warriors on social media who have given them abuse should frankly get stuffed.

    You mean the pin headed racist bigots? I haven't seen any of their stupid bile yet, but I'll be happy to express exactly what I think of them if I do. Always nice to see bigots whine.

    But for me I would like to get on with the election so we can have a new Government set up to again address this uniquely dangerous infection. […] I would prefer that our elected representatives just got on with the job and were not distracted by petty politics from Parties facing a disaster in the next election.

    My view as well. Even if we have to do an election in Auckland with advance voting (which was more than a third of the valid votes in the 2017 election anyway), that will be no more dangerous than queuing at the supermarket. Just spread the advance voting out over more time.

    The Electoral Commission should start planning to do that as a preparatory precaution in any case. Who knows if we wind up having pandemics in 2023 or 2026. The novel diseases have been more frequent in the past decades. There is no reason to suspect that they will stop appearing.

  4. You_Fool 4
    17 August 2020 at 8:43 am

    What I would like is to hear from an independent electoral commission made up of experts on constitutional matters, and what impact the lock down will have on the election, vs delaying.

    What the CoL has to say in their own self interest is just blathering of idiots…

    • I Feel Love 4.1
      17 August 2020 at 8:50 am

      Agree, if the EC says delay then fine, but I would prefer it be their call

      and I saw a Tweet, “if you can’t campaign during Level 2, I can’t see you governing unser Level 2″‘

  5. Ffloyd 5
    17 August 2020 at 8:51 am

    I hope the election days stays as it is. Collins only wants to extend so that her and big Ger or Bigger as he is now known, can hopefully find an Achilles heel they can exploit. You know, because they are so fair and reasonable etc and just want their democratic right to be upheld Yada Yada and they will extend the window of time to do a bit of trolling to hopefully improve their polling. And Winston just needs to hush his mouth. He is no longer relevant. We need the election to be held 19th Sept so we can have certainty going forward in the next few weeks. Just get it done. And watch Collins and Bigger get rolled.

    • observer 5.1
      17 August 2020 at 9:07 am

      No dissolution today simply means that National MPs will have to be in Parliament tomorrow. There is no way that helps Collins. Every MP who wanted out, will be back (or she will have half empty benches). A very unhappy caucus, because of their leader.

    • Sacha 5.2
      17 August 2020 at 9:11 am

      Please knock off focusing on Brownlee's body – distracts from his woeful actions and character.

      • greywarshark 5.2.1
        17 August 2020 at 9:18 am

        Suggest we call G Brownlee 'Woeful Actions' or WA for short, as he has no character only a big blustery body which we shouldn't focus on when its the present politics that should have our whole attention.

        • gsays 5.2.1.1
          17 August 2020 at 12:40 pm

          Muller had the name:

          National Disgrace.

        • theotherpat 5.2.1.2
          17 August 2020 at 2:58 pm

          how about BUFF… big ugly fat fucker….if the shoe fits.

          [How about your next comment will be postponed by 4 weeks – Incognito]

          • Incognito 5.2.1.2.1
            17 August 2020 at 3:38 pm

            See my Moderation note @ 2:58 PM.

          • greywarshark 5.2.1.2.2
            17 August 2020 at 4:28 pm

            the other … Did you not read sacha's comment? We are trying to limit ourselves from the rubbish it's too easy to spout. You don't have the nous to come up with anything.

            • Incognito 5.2.1.2.2.1
              17 August 2020 at 4:34 pm

              Indeed, it is a fine line between trying to be funny, mockery, and fat- or body-shaming. There have been quite a few of these kinds of comments here lately but this one clearly crossed the line. When you’ve got nothing, say nothing, or go practise in the mirror and see whether you get a laugh.

  6. Ad 6
    17 August 2020 at 8:51 am

    If Prime Minister Ardern went for the election date as planned there's a high risk that the only parties in Parliament would be Labour, National, and Act.

    And it would be very foolish to think that Labour would get over 50% and be able to rule alone.

    This could easily blow up badly for Labour if it kept to its current course.

    Forget Covid 19's impact, the Greens need time to get above the line.

    • Andre 6.1
      17 August 2020 at 9:11 am

      In that scenario, it's not whether Labour get over 50%, but whether Labour get more than Nat plus ACT. That's a much lower bar than 50%.

  7. Hooch 7
    17 August 2020 at 8:53 am

    Can you imagine National/Collins agreeing to delay the election if the roles were reversed?

    • Hunter Thompson II 7.1
      17 August 2020 at 9:25 am

      I could imagine that if the current roles were reversed, Judith Collins would be gracious, put petty politics aside and act purely in the interests of all New Zealanders' health and safety.

      But if I were to do that I would risk straining my imagination beyond repair.

  8. observer 8
    17 August 2020 at 8:58 am

    This is a strange hill to be fighting on today, since it will be overtaken by 10 a.m.

    I think debating a delay within the 3 year term is a very minor matter. It is Judith Collins' wish to extend the term that is 100 times worse, a constitutional outrage. She should be hammered for that. But she isn't, partly because people are focusing on this instead.

    National can't withdraw confidence they don't have, that's irrelevant. It's confusing/conflating the two issues. No 75%, no way. That's what matters.

  9. Red Blooded One 9
    17 August 2020 at 9:06 am

    Just to be a moaning old git, I absolutely hated the ongoing reference to the Government as the COL or Coalition of Losers so am just as disappointed to see us slag them in the same way. Having said that, I think the PM will be "fair" and delay, whereas I think she should stick to Sept 19th.

    • Enough is Enough 9.1
      17 August 2020 at 11:00 am

      I too find it embarrassing when folk from the left use juvenile names to describe those on the other side (especially when they steal the same silly names the Nats used in the first place)

      • Red Blooded One 9.1.1
        17 August 2020 at 12:03 pm

        I'm no saint, I suggest one persons juvenile is another's clever, but the Loser tag really grates on me (Michelle Boag, was using it very early on, John Banks used to use it all the time). I hang my head in shame to admit I refer to the Punch 'n Judy show for the current Opposition.

  10. Sacha 10
    17 August 2020 at 9:09 am

    I want an election sooner rather than later. However in passing can I question why you are following others in highlighting the ethnicity (and location) of this family?

    • Anne 10.1
      17 August 2020 at 9:22 am

      I think mickysavage is responding to the slagging off they are receiving by the ignoramuses on social media – pointing out they have done everything right and should be lauded not insulted. Every opportunity should be used imo.

      • mickysavage 10.1.1
        17 August 2020 at 11:38 am

        Their ethnicity has already been released and is the subject of some of the attacks. I wanted to express support for them and note their commitment to the rules was very valuable to all of us.

        And South Auckland gets bad press. Believe me I grew up there! Because of poverty it is unfortunately the place more likely than many to have a cluster appear. Thanks to this family's responsible behaviour there is a hope that we can get on top of this.

  11. Devo 11
    17 August 2020 at 9:12 am

    The whole ‘we need more time to campaign’ thing frm parties who haven’t bothered releasing meaningful policy 5 weeks before an election is taking me right back to high school w everyone begging teachers for extensions on assignments they haven’t startd the day before they’re due.
    — Melissa Ansell-Bridges (@mansellbridges) August 16, 2020

    • tc 11.1
      17 August 2020 at 9:19 am

      +100 All the while expecting a lift in polling with a trumpian styled strategy their media shills croon along to.

  12. Tricledrown 12
    17 August 2020 at 9:15 am

    Looks like Winston is playing wag the dog

    If he does he will be finished

  13. Peter 13
    17 August 2020 at 9:19 am

    Collins wants it delayed because she thinks, well hopes, that over the period their share can only go higher, could not go lower.

    Peters wants it delayed as a way of keeping the death throes of his party away.

    Seymour is just throwing stuff out for attention and relevance because that's what he always does.

    Te Kahika and his mob will want it delayed hoping scores of thousands in the interim have lobotomies then going the. It would the average IQ of the group would go top.

    Ardern just has to take the hysteria and bullying that has gone on. I realise there are all sorts of constitutional niceties, but the best suggestion was from the guy on the radio this morning who say Ardern should delay it for three years.

    • Andre 13.1
      17 August 2020 at 10:22 am

      Collins wants it delayed because she thinks, well hopes, that over the period their share can only go higher, could not go lower.

      Not necessarily. If you were staring at a shit sandwich, and given the chance to swap for a brown bag that most likely had an even more shit sandwich but also had a small chance of having a lunchmeat sandwich, would you do the swap?

  14. Nic 181 14
    17 August 2020 at 9:24 am

    The election was set for 19th September. If we assume the Writ day at Parliament is today and the current Lockdown ends Wednesday 26th, then I suggest the election date goes into early November. November 5th is a good date for an election. Let's blow up the Nats!

  15. Shanreagh 15
    17 August 2020 at 9:34 am

    I too, cannot see a need to delay the election and the point about getting a new govt confirmed to continue the response to Covid-19, in a short sharp manner is well made by MS. I think the election, if delayed, should be by two weeks only ie 2 weeks from 19/9. I don't see the need to extend out to November.

    PS the only campaign leaflets I have received per mailbox have been from National

  16. Sabine 16
    17 August 2020 at 9:37 am

    it is very hard to believe that hte government has not spend a single thought about the 'what if' scenario of the virus coming back before the election.

    Seriously, not one fucking 'what if' thought? No plan b? Nope, business as usual?

    Oh well. that is how you give ammunition to your enemies.

    • Sacha 16.1
      17 August 2020 at 9:43 am

      The Electoral Commission has planned for an election at Level 2. What do you expect the government to have done?

      • Sabine 16.1.1
        17 August 2020 at 9:47 am

        to plan for level 4 – worst case scenario.

        after all we are in Covid times now.
        Or is that asking too much? Seriously they must have at least on suit in their midst who should be able to do a risk analysis of 'What if another outbreak happens and we have to put all or parts of the country in lockdown'j.

        that is what i expect of them. After all it is what is expected of every business and every family in this country. Prepare for another lockdown, loss of job, loss of income etc etc etc.

        So yeah, they have no one to blame but themselves if they did not at least play the worst case scenario at least once to see what should/could/must be done.

        • ScottGN 16.1.1.1
          17 August 2020 at 9:56 am

          What are you banging on about? The Electoral Commission has clearly said that they are able to conduct an election under level 2 conditions. And they have just as clearly said that holding an election under Level 3 or 4 conditions will be extremely difficult. You may not like to hear that but that doesn’t mean that planning has not been done.

    • observer 16.2
      17 August 2020 at 9:46 am

      Er, they've gone on and on about it, before it happened. Hipkins talking about the app, Woods on the borders, Bloomfield on masks, etc.

      It's not their fault we stopped listening.

      • Sabine 16.2.1
        17 August 2020 at 9:49 am

        "We' did not do anything.

        You may have stopped listening, but WE did not. Besides the government should even plan for that.

        I mean we had the images coming from the US voting in Wisconsin. Plus we have the numbers of cases raising after these votes.

        Besides, so far it has not yet been established where they guy in AKL got hte virus from. So maybe just maybe….don't blame the citizens of the country just because the government dropped the ball on how to do election in times of a pandemic.

        • observer 16.2.1.1
          17 August 2020 at 9:54 am

          I'm really not sure what point you're making.

          Plan for a level 2 election, done. Plan for level 3 locally, done.

          Level 4 is total lockdown, and realistically would mean delaying the election. But we aren't at level 4, so it isn't an issue.

          • Andre 16.2.1.1.1
            17 August 2020 at 10:02 am

            We can still go and buy food at Level 4. Voting takes much less time and less getting near other people than a grocery run. I can't see any obstacles to providing better protection for election workers than grocery workers had in Level 4.

          • Sabine 16.2.1.1.2
            17 August 2020 at 10:03 am

            We are not YET at level 4. 🙂

            Chances are we are going to be there in due time as the cases seem to be growing and going into hard lockdown seems to be the fastest and least damaging way to get it under control.

            But hey, if they all did this planning, this post and that of Lprent is not needed and we can go back to fooling us how this is all normal.

            • ScottGN 16.2.1.1.2.1
              17 August 2020 at 10:15 am

              Nothing that has happened with the current outbreak so far points to Auckland having to go into Level 4 let alone the rest of the country. You are over dramatising the situation.

            • Hanswurst 16.2.1.1.2.2
              17 August 2020 at 10:18 am

              Chances are we are going to be there in due time as the cases seem to be growing and going into hard lockdown seems to be the fastest and least damaging way to get it under control.

              The growing number of cases don't tell you that, especially given that the current alert levels haven't been in place long enough for the effects to be discernible.

    • Just Is 16.3
      17 August 2020 at 12:06 pm

      You Obviously Haven't Been Listening to the news for weeks.

      The Electoral Commission is prepared for most scenarios, it's common knowledge

  17. stuff the politicians 17
    17 August 2020 at 9:50 am

    Very good article.

    Agree 100%

    Thank you. Now bring on the Election.

  18. Stuart Munro 18
    17 August 2020 at 9:54 am

    I do think delaying the election should be considered. Covid is a big enough issue to have constitutional implications. But that doesn't mean that opposition parties should be encouraged to create uncertainty for any length of time over it.

    Ideally there should be a debate followed by a conscience vote that settles the matter. The government might have concerns however, that NZF will display the erratic behaviour that typically peaks pre-election, to prevent an orderly solution. In that case they might quite properly put the election back three weeks – the time lost to Covid – without allowing other parties to exploit the decision.

  19. Sacha 19
    17 August 2020 at 9:55 am

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/423695/election-date-there-isn-t-a-risk-free-option-chris-hipkins

    Green co-leader James Shaw said calls for a delay to the election were politicking.

    "I think it's 100 percent electioneering. There are some political parties who are clearly prioritising their electoral fortunes over the health of our communities and strength of our democracy and I think that's extremely disappointing.

    Shaw said National Party leader Judith Collins was "essentially laying the groundwork to be able to say that unless she gets what she wants then she'll be able to declare the election illegitimate.

    "I think that's incredibly dangerous."
    …
    “[Peters] is clearly flirting with the idea of creating a political crisis, if you read between the lines of what he was saying yesterday.”

  20. observer 20
    17 August 2020 at 9:58 am

    I just think it's really funny that the opposition whinge about the PM being on telly, and thanks to their whinging about the election she's about to be on the telly.

  21. SPC 21
    17 August 2020 at 10:01 am

    My original reaction when Auckland went to Level 3, was that the election would be delayed for the period they are at this Level.

    It's either 1 or 2 weeks as known, but may go long as a month. .

    That's logical but Winston Peters has gone rogue …

  22. Weasel 22
    17 August 2020 at 10:04 am

    Judith Collins on politics in another time when Nats in control: “It’s not turn-sies time.”

  23. Sacha 23
    17 August 2020 at 10:05 am

    17 Oct says PM

  24. Muttonbird 24
    17 August 2020 at 10:12 am

    Kicking the can down the road.

  25. te reo putake 25
    17 August 2020 at 10:18 am

    A clever choice from Labour. Spikes Winston's constitutional guns and reinforces to the country that this is a listening and caring government.

    Cold comfort for National, who get four more weeks to try and lift themselves out of the doldrums, while the grim reality is that it's four more weeks of daily updates from Jacinda Ardern on the telly, reassuring and comforting the nation while demonstrating that she is in total control.

    • Sacha 25.1
      17 August 2020 at 10:24 am

      All a vote of no confidence would do is immediately trigger an election. More bluster from the desperate codger.

      • ScottGN 25.1.1
        17 August 2020 at 10:32 am

        Not necessarily. The GG only has to call an election if no one can command a majority in the House. If the government falls the opposition parties could band together with NZFirst and provide a caretaker admin and reschedule the election within the limits of the current term. Delaying until next year requires a super vote in the parliament. That’s my understanding of what Edegeler andvGedfis have said.

        • observer 25.1.1.1
          17 August 2020 at 10:47 am

          It's a fun hypothetical, though of course the public's response to that would have been outrage, giving the phoney caretaker government a month of internal chaos followed by a landslide defeat.

    • ScottGN 25.2
      17 August 2020 at 10:28 am

      Yeah I think that Collins and National have made a strategic mistake with this. Any doubts in the public’s mind about how the government has handled the current outbreak will have subsided (so long as the situation doesn’t deteriorate) by then and we will still have had wall to wall Jacinda on the telly every day.
      As far as Judith wanting to ‘help’ the PM delay until next year, that was never going to fly. As observer points out further up the thread that option is a serious constitutional affront.

      • te reo putake 25.2.1
        17 August 2020 at 10:33 am

        Yep! Collins will go down in political history as the first Tory leader to publicly campaign for a Labour Government to extend their stay in power 😉

        • Ad 25.2.1.1
          17 August 2020 at 10:37 am

          Other than the National MPs who will go out, there will be plenty of National loyalists who will look at the utter mess of the next three years' recession and breathe a sigh of relief at losing this one.

          • AB 25.2.1.1.1
            17 August 2020 at 11:01 am

            And a subset of those loyalists who will be gleeful at the future opportunity to unleash brutal austerity on their social inferiors because of the government deficit.

            • Sacha 25.2.1.1.1.1
              17 August 2020 at 11:55 am

              And the ones bemoaning a chance to get into that right away rather than waiting. Never waste a crisis..

    • Bearded Git 25.3
      17 August 2020 at 10:38 am

      Agree with you TRP. Jacinda gets it right again.

  26. ScottGN 26
    17 August 2020 at 10:41 am

    Now for Judith to corral her bunch of sorry-arsed escapees back into the House!

  27. observer 27
    17 August 2020 at 10:43 am

    Good decision (and not just because I named the date on here last week wink)

    I still think people underestimate Ardern's political skill. Collins wanted next year. Peters wanted November. PM has consulted and looked inclusive and reasonable and then told them to bugger off, without ever telling them to bugger off.

    And the command of detail in that press conference was impressive. Next idiot who says she's a lightweight, tie them to a chair and make them watch it.

    • SPC 27.1
      17 August 2020 at 11:26 am

      The reason they wanted the last possible date was that if the EC could not run it on that day, parliament would have to resume and been effectively required to super majorirty an election next year. In such a context National would have demanded a coalition arrangment in the interim.

      Now the EC has 5 Saturdays they can hold the final day of voting, options to delay up to 4 times – creating a longer and longer period of early voting if required.

    • Pat 27.2
      17 August 2020 at 3:17 pm

      Indeed….she certainly has hoisted them on their own petards…they will do well to learn the lesson this time…it's getting repetitive

  28. mauī 28
    17 August 2020 at 10:45 am

    Wonderful, wonderful Arden.

  29. Weasel 29
    17 August 2020 at 11:32 am

    Given the extra time until the vote and Miss Collins' abysmal performance to date, I'm opening a book on National having a new leader by then. Any takers?

  30. SPC 30
    17 August 2020 at 11:49 am

    A Curia poll of Aucklanders showed 58% want an election delay and 29% want 19th of September.

    Whereas the Herald poll had 40% wanting it on Sept 19 and 21% in October.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12356984

    • observer 30.1
      17 August 2020 at 12:20 pm

      The Herald poll also says only one voter in 5 wanted an extension of the term, which was the preference of Judith "finger on pulse" Collins.

      • SPC 30.1.1
        17 August 2020 at 12:23 pm

        Two majorities, one for a delay and the other by no more than a month.

        Oct 17 being after the school holidays – allowing early voting at schools (up to 12th when schools resume)?

  31. PaddyOT 31
    17 August 2020 at 12:03 pm

    So technically are those who have left for good,then returning to Parliament to make decisions? The terrible suffering if we all have to hear the Natz departees Valedictory speeches again.

    • Sacha 31.1
      17 August 2020 at 12:04 pm

      The awkward post-breakup encounter..

      • PaddyOT 31.1.1
        17 August 2020 at 2:41 pm

        Not sure if my comment was clear sorry. Being flippant was my bad.
        That "post-breakup " encounter is funny to contemplate.

        I was alluding to more serious consequences beyond the media hype which was poorly expressed by me.

        I was referring to other comments re-no dissolution and effects such as needing 'plans' comments. " No dissolution today simply means that National MPs will have to be in Parliament tomorrow"., clarity on " constitutional matters" .,
        Parliament is not dissolved so Members of Parliament and the Government still continue to exist.
        Moving the dissolution has an effect on all the parts.
        So a re-instated House per say was new territory. The recalled Parliament members are needed to legislate any of Government's major measures, eg. " Without a parliament any government would run out of money pretty quickly. Only Parliament can approve the bills that provide cash to run the country.".
        https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/the-house/audio/2018759138/dissolving-parliament-what-is-that

        So, Paula Bennet, Hamish Walker, Ian Lees-Galloway, Andrew Falloon et al who have breached public trust – JC and Brownlee even now – still get to vote in Parliament from tomorrow when making decisions for the future.

        Decisions such as those expressed by comments above-
        "after all we are in Covid times now.
        Or is that asking too much? Seriously they must have at least on suit in their midst who should be able to do a risk analysis of 'What if another outbreak happens and we have to put all or parts of the country in lockdown'j. ".

        that is what i expect of them. After all it is what is expected of every business and every family in this country. Prepare for another lockdown, loss of job, loss of income etc etc etc."

        And this one highlighting lack of trust and integrity flaws of MP's – " "Frankly, many New Zealanders would have heard loud and clear that these parties prioritise their potential electoral successes over the health of our communities, and the strength of our democratic institutions.” . Concerning? yes.

  32. Cinny 32
    17 August 2020 at 12:13 pm

    Fantastic graphic MS.

    Wonder if retiring MP's will now get an extra four weeks salary?

    My john key loving boss said the following this morning, after praising Jacinda and announcing he is going to vote for our current PM…..

    "Imagine if that other women was running the country, I can't stand her, she's a bully, I don't trust her, what's her name again?"

  33. Dean Reynolds 33
    17 August 2020 at 12:25 pm

    Watching Jacinda's masterful performance on TV1 this morning had me grinning from ear to ear – she's simply amazing! Compared to Jacinda, Collins looks facile, incoherent & small minded.

    • Just Is 33.1
      17 August 2020 at 1:15 pm

      Collins is working hard to dispel the perception she's a nasty politician, leopards don't change their spots

  34. te reo putake 34
    17 August 2020 at 12:47 pm

    Golriz Ghahraman has just made the nice point on twitter that a month's worth of first time voters will now be eligible to cast a ballot. Happy birthday anybody turning 18 between mid September and mid October. Have some democracy with that cake!

  35. Dean Reynolds 35
    17 August 2020 at 1:29 pm

    The other thing that struck me, at the end of Jacinda's presentation, was watching the jackals of the media shouting out their inane 'gotcha' type questions. These hyenas aren't interested in information, they just want a cheap headline to which they can put their name. I'm impressed with the dignity & patience exhibited by the PM, The DG of Health & The Minister of Health as they calmly answer each moronic question which is shouted at them.

    • Red Blooded One 35.1
      17 August 2020 at 1:48 pm

      Agreed, I would like to see a ticker at the bottom of the screen naming the "journalist" and the organization they are from just to confirm and highlight what numbnuts is wasting everyone's time.

    • Heather Grimwood 35.2
      17 August 2020 at 4:00 pm

      Yes i aree. I admire the resilience of the folk being rudely shouted at by those who obviously lack listening skills. I feel for the recipients who working long stressful hours must be weary enough without being subjected to such uncouth behaviour.

  36. Ken 36
    17 August 2020 at 3:29 pm

    Judy and Gerry don't get any younger, prettier, nicer or smarter, the longer you look at them.

    The extra month just gives everyone longer to think about how badly an outfit that can't even run a political party properly is suited to run a country.

  37. Byd0nz 37
    17 August 2020 at 4:05 pm

    Another month, whatever. Most people, i should think, already know who they will vote for, so the extra time will be for procrasternators, the dont knowers, swing voters whos vote will probably spread among the parties. Advance voting is OK I guess under the circ's, but I prefer to vote on the day, wearing some red as I line up to give both ticks to Labour.

  38. rod 38
    17 August 2020 at 4:56 pm

    I would like to see another camera homing in on the person asking the question, so that we at home can see who these people are. smiley

  39. PsyclingLeft.Always 39
    18 August 2020 at 7:43 am

    See Winston Peters on the news with his Green attack mode raising Jeanette Fitzsimons and Rod Donald as examples of Actual Greens. Peters desperately seeking relevance. Any window of opportunity….Hopefully slammed shut soon. : )

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