Wong: frequent flyer

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1. ianmac 1

   25 November 2010 at 10:17 am

   It is surprising that Key does not use the Pike tragedy to cover a “release” of information re Pansy Wong. Though rumour has it that Wong is out of the country?
   Since Trevor has released his information on-line rather than in-House, he must have real info to back it up. Interesting.
   • Bright Red 1.1

     25 November 2010 at 10:56 am

     I would have thought that even Key would struggle to get away with the gros expediency of using Pike River for cover like that.
2. ianmac 2

   25 November 2010 at 10:25 am

   And I wonder if by waiting Key will be able to see what other information is out there regarding Wong. Don’t confess to something that is unknown. Key did say recently that it was the Opposition’s job to find out stuff rather than his.
3. Tigger 3

   25 November 2010 at 10:47 am

   Now come on, there are women in China. And ethnic affairs type stuff… This is just another vile Labour smear job… I have no doubt that when Wong reappears she will have a good reason for all this spending. Provided she does reappear which frankly I’m wondering if she ever will.
4. Jim Nald 4

   25 November 2010 at 10:50 am

   Report card:
   How has Pansy delivered for Women’s Affairs and Ethnic Affairs?

   I know women’s groups who have been appalled by lack of policy development and implementation after all these months.
   At the two-year mark and what? Anything remotely looking like work or initiative for this ministerial portfolio has been chucked into the deep freeze.

   I know Asian groups who have been deeply dissatisfied with her rare visibility and increasing muteness. In fact, there has been no new initiatives, and those from the previous electoral cycle have been left to dry up or die out.

   What the blooming dickens has she done the past 18 months?
   Oh, of course. Pansy is woman. Pansy is ethnic.
   And we’re now seeing she has been very occupied.
   Oh yes, very busy developing, advocating and implementing her own Affairs.
   • john k 4.1

     25 November 2010 at 3:18 pm

     Jim you got it,thats all she has done.
     theres a new chinese newspaper come out in english,the chinese are not happy with her
5. ianmac 5

   25 November 2010 at 11:06 am

   You know how various agencies are put under the spotlight and made to explain their expenditure? Well how about the Women’s Affairs and Ethnic Affairs Ministries being made to?
   • Jim Nald 5.1

     25 November 2010 at 11:16 am

     There is a Chinese proverb that says women hold up half the sky.
     Well, there has been little sign that she has been driving real policies and initiatives.
     But every sign that she and her other half have been busy taking to the sky.
   • Bright Red 5.2

     25 November 2010 at 12:07 pm

     they’re tiny organisations that ensure the policies developed by the bigger government bodies take women and ethnic issues into account, and they report on discrimination, income gaps etc.
     • Jim Nald 5.2.1

       25 November 2010 at 12:16 pm

       And thanks to National, with handmaiden Pansy, they have been quickly shuffled off to the side to be discarded into irrelevance.

       She can herself now have a taste of National’s poison.
6. freedom 6

   25 November 2010 at 11:22 am

   Dame Jenny Shipley is now an Independent Director of China Construction Bank. She is Chairman of Senior Money International. She also chairs Mainzeal Construction and is a Director of its parent, Richina Pacific which owns the China based SLC and SRL, a major property and leather cluster of businesses in Shanghai. She is a Director of the HR company, Momentum.

   Fonterra, who have publicly said they want to restrict foreign ownership of Dairy in NZ hire Dame Shipley to discuss new dairy opportunities in China whilst Dame Jenny Shipley has taken numerous Chinese investors on guided Real Estate tours of New Zealand farmland.

   She is a very regular visitor to China in her role as a director, a keynote speaker and in association with her consultancy interests. She has served on a number of advisory boards including the International Economic Advisory Board of the City of Rotterdam. She is an Initiator of the Education Forum for East Asia and a Director of the Interntional Financial Forum, supporting both organizations when they hold events in Beijing annually.

   To balance all this mega-profit engineering and to asssuage openly admitted desires for 80%-100% hikes in dairy returns, thus forcing even more children to suffer ill health, Dame Shipley supports a few schools in Namibia
   http://www.namibiankids.org.nz/?page_id=4

   Why would such a generous and important person not want to answer questions about her business associations with Pansy Wong?
7. Anne 7

   25 November 2010 at 11:46 am

   captcha: connections.
   Oh yes, Wong has the connections alright. It’s obvious now what her value has been all along. It also shows whereabouts on this govt.’s priority list that the women’s and ethnic affairs portfolios actually stand – at the bottom.

   It’s been reported that the Nat. Party membership in the Botany electorate has sunk to an all time low – 134 (I think). That’s extraordinary given that both the electoral and party vote majorities were 10,000 plus in 2008. No wonder Key is desperate to buy time!

   Pete Hodgson, Trevor Mallard and co. are going to have to do all the running on this one. The MSM have received their instructions, and will be hiding under the nearest rock.
   • Jim Nald 7.1

     25 November 2010 at 12:00 pm

     Incidentally, …
     Pansy was parachuted into Parliament as list MP (with whose endorsement?) in 1996.
     Jenny Shipley was in Cabinet then, and was to roll Jimbo in 1997.

     Pansy was on the Canterbury Regional Council before going into Parliament.
     Jenny was MP for Rakaia (Canterbury).

     Pansy ain’t Parliamentary newbie but a 14 year veteran.

     Dear taxpayers
     What has she done for you lately?
8. ghostwhowalksnz 8

   25 November 2010 at 12:53 pm

   You have to look at the Wongs as running a husband and wife ‘franchise’ of the national party.

   Fits to a tee, NP provide the branding, the backup, the access to the ‘Colonel’.
   While the Wongs round up the ‘customers’ who want a fast food political experience. But happy to pay silver service prices.

   As for any franchise , theres a franchise fee to go to National , maybe as high as 50% ( quite a bit more than usual) but advantage of electorate office and overseas trips ( approved by Key ) but taxpayer funded. The Wongs get to keep the rest. Sammy does the deals that are ‘off franchise’, which protects the ‘brand’

   All that is missing for the public, is the price list for the ‘fast food’
   • Jim Nald 8.1

     25 November 2010 at 12:56 pm

     Makes one wonder if there was an undisclosed ministerial portfolio that Pansy was carrying off:

     Minister of Sammy’s Affairs
     • Anne 8.1.1

       25 November 2010 at 1:06 pm

       lol 😀
     • Robert Atack 8.1.2

       25 November 2010 at 5:57 pm

       How about this for a long shot?
       Key is borrowing (selling NZ) 200 + million bucks a week.
       Who are about the only players in town with full suitcases?
       Maybe we all owe Pansy a big thank you, because if that $200,000,000 wasn’t coming in each week we might be living in a different society, like the one we face once the spigot of life is turned off.
       And maybe Jenny is showing our benefactors ‘our’ farms to convince them that we will be able to pay back the $40+ billion Key has predicted ‘we’ need to borrow to keep the lights on, and more importantly the mobs off the streets.
       Remember these are the good days.
       And they will never prevent what is coming, at best they are delaying the inevitable, I guess I can say “I told ya so” when we have food riots in Wellington.
       Apathy is so strong in NZ it will take empty stomachs to get the masses to do anything. At the moment they are happy.

       I can still remember the time before the crash
       when we all drove around in cars and I had lots of cash
       and anything I wanted, I’d just go out and buy
       I’d even drive a mile or two – just to buy a pie

       but then the oil wars started and everything collapsed
       the supermarket shelves were stripped before a month elapsed
       and people all turned really grim and gained a hungry look
       we’d steal from anyone at all we’d kill for things to cook

       and everywhere disease and grief and bodies left to rot
       while gangs of grim and brutal men would kill and steal and plot
       and people fled the cities and countless numbers died
       and everything was so so bad not even mothers cried

       our house was one of many then, a normal family home
       but it was stripped and burnt for fuel when we had left to roam
       and I remember mum and dad, my little sister too
       but they were killed and eaten back sometime in ‘22

       and now I know I’m dying, I’ve left no living heirs
       nobody is alive to know there’s not a soul who cares
       there’s only me so damned hungry I’m gnawing at the trees
       there’s no-one left to kill and eat oh God please help me please

       and as I stagger on and on through burnt and plundered homes
       I see the the signs of rage and ruin and countless human bones
       I hear the starving pack of dogs that follow close behind
       and I am now so close to death I hardly even mind

       I fall and screaming dogs begin to rip and shred my life
       my mind drifts back to days of oil and to my kids and wife
       oh life was so so simple then and life was so so good
       but all we had we wasted, we never understood
       MH

       sorry got a bit off track 😉
9. Carol 9

   25 November 2010 at 1:47 pm

   There’s an article in today’s NZ Herald on Wong’s frequent flying, but it’s buried under the saturation coverage of Pike River:

   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10689982
10. Danyl Mclauchlan 10

    25 November 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Probably safe to assume everything Mallard says is nonsense unless proved otherwise, but yes on the bare facts this looks a lot worse than Chris Carter’s travel scandal.
    • ghostwhowalksnz 10.1

      25 November 2010 at 1:57 pm

      Thats why they are ‘out of the country’- no pesky doorstoppers from the media
      • Jim Nald 10.1.1

        25 November 2010 at 2:07 pm

        And so she continues to be NZ MP-in-exile with the PM’s blessings
    • Craig Glen Eden 10.2

      25 November 2010 at 2:04 pm

      So what part of what Trevor has said do you dispute DM?

      1.She often is seen with large groups of Chinese in Parliament
      2 She raises thousands for the National Party
      3 The moneys in her personal account
      4 Key would want to collect the money

      Maybe its you who should have the facts before you make statements.
      • Richard 10.2.1

        25 November 2010 at 4:33 pm

        I think that 3 is the only point that is any doubt. And it is the only point that is important. The rest is non-controversial, although 2 probably explains her apparent “position” in the party.

        I agree with Danyl, I wouldn’t take Mallard’s statement as necessarily accurate, it is semi-plausible, but Mallard can be a capable and convincing spinner when it suits him.

        If Mallard is incorrect, then the danger (for National) will be that National will make a total shambles of proving him wrong. Which is, of course, what Mallard/Labour will be aiming for — regardless of whether Mallard is actually correct.
    • Cameron Phillips 10.3

      26 November 2010 at 10:58 am

      But Danyl you’re about the only person who doesn’t think Pansy did anything wrong and this is all just an artless smear by Hodgson.
      http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/11/10/this-rough-magic-i-here-abjure/

      Actually it’s a perfect example of the constitutional role of an opposition – holding the executive to account. It might not be pretty and it might not advance the popularity of the opposition – but it’s the job we as taxpayers pay the opposition to do. We don’t pay them to make themselves popular, we pay them to hold the executive to account in the House.
11. Anne 11

    25 November 2010 at 3:07 pm

    “Probably safe to assume everything Mallard says is nonsense unless proved otherwise…”.

    Probably safe to assume Danyl McLauchlan – and others like him – want to believe that everything Mallard says is nonsense because they’re in perpetual denial about the truth.
    • ianmac 11.1

      25 November 2010 at 3:39 pm

      The thing is that Trevor shoots straight. He says what he means and means what he says. That is so refreshing after the wishy washy usual MP speak. So Danyl, put your money where….
12. Irascible 12

    25 November 2010 at 4:28 pm

    A recent story from the USA about the Republican Speaker in the House of Representatives and his appearance in court raises an interesting possibility?
13. Treetop 13

    25 November 2010 at 5:09 pm

    I can now see why National no longer relied on the Brethrens as they had Pansy.
14. freedom 14

    25 November 2010 at 5:52 pm

    One thing i can’t work out with the Pansy Wong situation revolves around the magnitude of interconnectivity shown to exist between herself, her husband, May Wang, senior members of the National Party both past and present, international financing groups, there are senior’s investment funds, farm financiers, media consultants, trade delegates, Chinese banks and other players.

    Why didn’t the mega-money people who are engineering these Dairy deals just pay May Wang’s tax bill and avoid the spotlight which has jeopardised their takeover of our Dairy Industry.

    If they were not aware of May Wang’s Tax situation then what else was Pansy Wong and her team unaware of on her watch?
15. Danyl Mclauchlan 15

    26 November 2010 at 7:12 am

    The thing is that Trevor shoots straight. He says what he means and means what he says. That is so refreshing after the wishy washy usual MP speak. So Danyl, put your money where….

    My logic goes like this: if National were accepting large donations from foreign nationals and laundering them through bank accounts controlled by the Wongs then it would be one of the most carefully guarded secrets in the entire party, and the tiny handful of senior National members privy to it would be unlikely to inform Trevor Mallard.

    Labour already has a knock-down scandal going here: a Minister allegedly stealing taxpayer money to fund her husbands overseas business deals. That’s all you need, if it turns out there’s more, great. But if clowns like Mallard start spinning more unsubstantiated, bullshit conspiracy theories then it diminishes the substance of the actual scandal.
    • Richard 15.1

      26 November 2010 at 9:09 am

      My logic goes like this: if National were accepting large donations from foreign nationals and laundering them through bank accounts controlled by the Wongs then it would be one of the most carefully guarded secrets in the entire party…

      I think that would be the case too.

      However, those donors must know the details of the bank accounts that they are depositing funds into (assuming they are not handing over cases of cash) — so, there is potential for this knowledge to leak from the donor side. Particularly as some donors might be also donating to Labour.

      And you are assuming that there are not internal divisions amongst senior National members, and that National members have not made some kind of cock-up. Past history would suggest that internal divisions and cock-ups are plausible.
      • Treetop 15.1.1

        26 November 2010 at 1:32 pm

        I wonder what Winston Peters would have to say about declaring party donations or the use of a personal bank account?
16. john k 16

    26 November 2010 at 3:45 pm

    yeah where is Winston ?up north fishing maybe,i miss his turn of speech

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