Xenophobia – a Nat guide

Written By: - Date published: 11:41 am, July 29th, 2013 - 65 comments
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If you’re playing at home, here’s the rules according to National:

Passing a law to whip up fear that hordes of Asian refugees are soon going to be landing on our shores, despite no evidence = not xenophobic

Repealing Part 6A of the Employment Relations Act, the ‘cleaners’ law’, which essentially gives a fairer deal to cleaners who are most Pasifika women = not xenophobic

Using bene-bashing as thinly disguised Maori bashing = not xenophobic

Making jokes about Maori being cannibals = not xenophobic

PM telling foreign born MPs to go back where they came from = not xenophobic

Preventing all foreigners regardless of ethnicity, except Australians regardless of ethnicity, from buying existing houses so that Kiwis currently locked out of the housing market can buy = xenophobic

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  1. King Kong 1
    29 July 2013 at 11:47 am

    Exactly. Labour’s bravery in not even being subtle with the xenophobia should be applauded.

    Sneaky Nats.

    • karol 1.1
      29 July 2013 at 11:52 am

      How subtle was the cannibal joke, or telling foreign born MPs to go back where they came from?

      • King Kong 1.1.1
        29 July 2013 at 12:04 pm

        Telling Ginge to piss off back to Australia is probably less about race than it is about the Minister for Tourism showing practical ways to “keep New Zealand beautiful”.

        The cannibal thing was, as stated in the post, a joke and not National policy.

        [lprent: You are starting to exceed the bounds of taste for this site in repeated comments today. I’d suggest that you start restraining your trolling “humour” before I start exercising mine. ]

        • karol 1.1.1.1
          29 July 2013 at 12:09 pm

          kk, please learn the difference between xenophobia and racism.

        • Bazar 1.1.1.2
          29 July 2013 at 7:11 pm

          Personally i have to laugh over his comments. Well written sarcastic reply, to a sorry excuse of a sarcastic story.

          Only thing harsh about it, was using the word “piss”.

          Bravo KK.

          I’d point out the fact that this site wishes to censor passive-aggressive criticism, rather than step up and face it is telling in its own way.

          [lprent: That is the only reason that he gets away with so much. But eventually he starts walking over the edge and needs reminder.. ]

          • QoT 1.1.1.2.1
            29 July 2013 at 9:55 pm

            Careful, bazar. “This site” doesn’t “wish” to do anything since it’s just a machine.

        • georgecomq 1.1.1.3
          29 July 2013 at 9:29 pm

          Kong

          Would you call “a brighter future” reality, or a joke?

          How about “closing the wage gap with Australia”?

          Or “Wave goodbye to higher taxes, not your loved one”?

          If those are not reality, what then.

          Stand up John.

  2. Sanctuary 2
    29 July 2013 at 12:02 pm

    “…Using bene-bashing as thinly disguised Maori bashing = not xenophobic…”

    Maori live here, so this is actually hilariously racist in it’s own way.

    But I get your point,I just suggest you edit your post.

    • Lightly 2.1
      29 July 2013 at 12:15 pm

      xenophobia is literally “fear of outsiders, aliens” – it can be fear of any different ethnicity or nationality that is not one’s own. It’s broader than racism but includes racism. For the Pakeha Key, Maori are a xenotype.

  3. tracey 3
    29 July 2013 at 12:09 pm

    Agreed sanctuary

  4. Sable 4
    29 July 2013 at 12:41 pm

    Keys is mostly an A grade oaf but then we already knew that. Having said this I do not think locking out foreigners from buying existing NZ homes, except Australians, is a bad idea. We have an open door policy with Australia and we nee to maintain it more than they do so this makes sense to me.

    • travellerev 4.1
      29 July 2013 at 1:19 pm

      No, John Key is a banking scumbag who plays and A grade oaf to lull your average Kiwi into believing he came back to be the hard nosed business man who is going to see them right! Big difference. Oh oops, just made the surveillance list as a subversive.

  5. aerobubble 5
    29 July 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Banks applies racist card, declaring those who
    aren’t currently paying resident taxes should be
    able to own homes, and its racists to stop them.
    No, its not, and what company would we be in?
    China is racist, Britian is racist, etc, if this
    is the measure Banks applies.

    Dunne says he knows best, and has correctly
    negotiated criticisms of the bill. Now
    essentially a member of the govt says he’s
    listened to the opposition and got it spot on.
    And people are worried that the govt knows best
    attitude is misplaced when it comes to freedom.

    Dunne and Banks are a disgrace, but you won’t get
    that from the MSM, Shearer the racist, Shearer the
    weak, Shearer the print money…

  6. TheContrarian 6
    29 July 2013 at 1:44 pm

    “PM telling foreign born MPs to go back where they came from”

    What was this all about?

  7. ABS 7
    29 July 2013 at 2:05 pm

    How is telling a country you export 10 billion dollars of product to yearly, that their citizens can no longer buy land here a smart idea exactly? And anything Commie Norman thinks is a good idea is probably very bad for Labour.

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 7.1
      29 July 2013 at 2:11 pm

      Are you a bit challenged in the comprehension department? The policy is aimed at non-residents, not non-citizens. Do you understand the difference between a resident and a citizen, or do I need to use smaller words?

      • King Kong 7.1.1
        29 July 2013 at 2:18 pm

        I must admit that I really enjoyed the irony of seeing someone who is quite clearly a total simpleton being this condescending.

        • tricledrown 7.1.1.1
          29 July 2013 at 2:23 pm

          Pea brained primate the irony is us all laughing at you describing yourself in such succinct way

        • One Anonymous Knucklehead 7.1.1.2
          29 July 2013 at 2:25 pm

          If a total simpleton can understand the difference between a resident and a citizen what does that make ABS?

      • TheContrarian 7.1.2
        29 July 2013 at 2:43 pm

        “Do you understand the difference between a resident and a citizen, or do I need to use smaller words?

        Well, the difference between resident and citizen in NZ is quite small. My wife was on permanent residency for some years before becoming a citizen and the only thing that changed (apart for getting an NZ passport) was the ability to run for office. I think you mean the difference between non-residency and residency.

        • King Kong 7.1.2.1
          29 July 2013 at 2:48 pm

          How embarrassing!

          • TheContrarian 7.1.2.1.1
            29 July 2013 at 2:52 pm

            A New Zealand resident works here, pays taxes here and uses NZ as a primary home so a resident should be able to buy housing here. This law is aimed at those who don’t have any type of residency.

            • One Anonymous Knucklehead 7.1.2.1.1.1
              29 July 2013 at 2:55 pm

              Which is why ABS’s comment is complete bullshit. Baby steps, TC, baby steps.

              • TheContrarian …
                29 July 2013 at 3:03 pm

                I’m not talking about ABS – I am talking about your confusion between resident and citizen.

                “Do you understand the difference between a resident and a citizen, or do I need to use smaller words?”

                Why don’t you tell us the difference.

                • One Anonymous Knucklehead …
                  29 July 2013 at 3:10 pm

                  What confusion, dickhead?

                  Ah, that’s right, the confusion you imagined: the confusion that doesn’t exist.

                  I’ll try and make this simple for you. ABS wrote “their citizens can no longer buy land here” but in fact a foreign citizen who is resident in NZ will not be affected.

                  • TheContrarian …
                    29 July 2013 at 3:14 pm

                    You know dropping insults like dickhead for no other reason than to do so is what children do.

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead …
                      29 July 2013 at 3:18 pm

                      You know pretending to see confusion where none exists is what stupid deceitful people do. I love my inner child.

        • One Anonymous Knucklehead 7.1.2.2
          29 July 2013 at 2:54 pm

          Nope. ABS drivelled on about “citizens” – the policy applies to residential status, hence my response.

  8. Cayte Shepherd 8
    29 July 2013 at 2:14 pm

    In the eyes of the xenophobe, John Key and Nats. It is xenophobic to ensure New Zealanders can live in a free and fair society. Able to get work in their own country, able to purchase a home which is affordable in the low wage structure, able to complete collective bargaining, able to afford a tertiary education. In fact able and free to have a right to a place in their own nation. Key and Co are so frightened of the KIWI.

    Poor Cayte will now be monstered by the spy network!

    • tricledrown 8.1
      29 July 2013 at 2:20 pm

      cayte your voting rights have already been stripped by the apathy of 1 million voters who failed to vote !
      this cynicism that the MSM and right wingers purvey turns the voters off allowing the minority of voters to control the majority!

      • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 8.1.1
        29 July 2013 at 3:15 pm

        That’s right, Cayte. The GCSB will start spying on people who are critical of the government on blogs.

        • marty mars 8.1.1.1
          29 July 2013 at 3:26 pm

          “The GCSB will continue spying on people who are critical of the government on blogs.”

          Fixed it for you mate – no thanks necessary.

        • weka 8.1.1.2
          29 July 2013 at 3:33 pm

          Wrong tense Gormless.

        • Colonial Viper 8.1.1.3
          29 July 2013 at 4:00 pm

          Pretty sure the already are

          • King Kong 8.1.1.3.1
            29 July 2013 at 4:03 pm

            Don’t need to bother spying on here. Clare Curran has done it for them already. She will tell anyone who wants to know the names of those who post here and what they do.

            [lprent: Unlikely since she has no rights here and never has had any. Anyone with any sense who actually commented on RA has already shifted to having separate identities for there or for other places that don’t have effective privacy policies like Whaleoil.

            Anyway, I’m getting really tired of leaving notes on your trolling comments. Next one I see that is off-topic and out of context (in my opinion) will earn you a vacation from this site. So I’d suggest frequenting OpenMike might be a wise idea as I’m pretty sure you don’t know what “context” means. ]

  9. marty mars 9
    29 July 2013 at 3:07 pm

    Terrible thing for key to say – it shows he’s cracking and his thin veneer of Mr niceguy is worn out – time to double the pressure on this fake.

  10. tsmithfield 10
    29 July 2013 at 4:45 pm

    It looks like Labour might not have a chance to be to be xenophobic anyway.

    By the time both Australian and Chinese buyers are netted out, it doesn’t leave much left in the way to ban.

    • lprent 10.1
      29 July 2013 at 5:05 pm

      If that was the case, then there should be no problems or objections from you then. BTW: Keep believing that…

      One of the problems in this area is that there are no good stats kept for residential property sales. Everything is inferred and/or “voluntary” like the MRIENZ surveys (like they don’t have a vested interest).

      Basically if the Nats don’t like this policy then perhaps they should collect some useful stats rather than inventing some (and feeding it out through Kiwiblog).

      • tricledrown 10.1.1
        29 July 2013 at 5:35 pm

        1prent you know how we have open mike maybe we should have a fact checker section as well it would put a lot of trolls in their place!

        [lprent: It’d get boring fast because most of the time it depends on definitions (look at the stats department fine print for some good examples). There are few incontrovertible facts anywhere, so generally you have to examine things and tease out peoples presumptions.

        I tend to reserve the draconian stuff for people droning without dealing with what others actually say. Pete George is probably the foremost example in the local blogosphere. He seldom if ever listens to anyone else apart from his navel. ]

    • tricledrown 10.2
      29 July 2013 at 5:24 pm

      the silly monetarist a we bit to complicated for you to figure out, Australia doesn’t allow foreign buyers other than NZDERS to purchase existing houses.Overseas investors are aloud to purchase only new houses so get your facts right! this would keep house supply up!
      Australia has vast quantities of land for building on where we don’t!
      So we can institute laws on foreign house investment under the FTA with out breaking the agreement..

      • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 10.2.1
        29 July 2013 at 5:31 pm

        Overseas investors are aloud…

        Fuckers should at least have the sensitivity to stay quiet.

      • tsmithfield 10.2.2
        29 July 2013 at 6:32 pm

        You’re right. Your opinion on this is of much more value than that of a constitutional lawyer.

    • Draco T Bastard 10.3
      29 July 2013 at 6:38 pm

      You know, all that needs to happen is that all non-residents be banned from owning houses here with no exceptions. I really doubt if Australia would take it that badly.

      • tsmithfield 10.3.1
        29 July 2013 at 6:49 pm

        So you agree there is a problem, then. Unfortunately, it might not be the only FTA agreement that is problematic for Labour’s plan.

        Thats the problem with policy on the hoof. Its not well thought out, and so has lots of unintended consequences.

        • Draco T Bastard 10.3.1.1
          29 July 2013 at 10:15 pm

          So you agree there is a problem, then.

          Nope.

          I doubt if it’s “policy on the hoof” and, to be honest, I really couldn’t careless if it screws with FTAs as all that would do is prove that the FTAs are bad for us and give the people reason to demand getting rid of them.

          • felix 10.3.1.1.1
            29 July 2013 at 10:42 pm

            Funny, ain’t it? Whenever we complain that these FTAs are an impediment to our sovereignty, the neoliberals like tsmithfield say we’re paranoid and don’t know what we’re talking about.

            And by “funny” I mean “hypocritical, deceitful, and stupid.”

  11. Saarbo 11
    29 July 2013 at 6:29 pm

    Gower on TV3 News tonight claimed this is classic “dog whistle” politics. Is Gower on the National Party payroll, hes a fuckwit. This policy will increase supply of housing into the Auckland market by between 5% and 10%, its a no brainer, it should have been done years ago.

    Houses are for owning and living in, not investments. Anything that creates a disincentive to own “investment housing” will effectively reduce demand for housing effectively increasing supply.

    Next I suggest, no tax deduction for interest cost on investment housing…given the house prices in Auckland, a correction of 10% to 15% would be a good thing.

    • Arfamo 11.1
      29 July 2013 at 6:56 pm

      I saw that. Christ, I couldn’t get to the mute button on the remote control fast enough. Gower’s so blatantly partisan it’s embarrassing. Disgrace to his profession.

    • Paul 11.2
      29 July 2013 at 9:21 pm

      Maybe more research needs to be done into these journalists to see who’s talking to them, who is lobbying them and most of all who is paying them.

  12. Luke Mason 12
    29 July 2013 at 9:16 pm

    You know you are onto something when the most racist MP in New Zealand – John Banks has the Gall to call this policy racist.