Daily review 01/02/2022

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1. weka 1

   1 February 2022 at 6:06 pm

   Glitch in the matrix?
   • Dennis Frank 1.1

     1 February 2022 at 7:20 pm

     If you mean the site being offline for a few hours the error message referred to a certificate of some kind that the site apparently lacked – which itself could be an error (& LP will probably figure it out).
     • Dennis Frank 1.1.1

       1 February 2022 at 7:25 pm

       Oh, I see he put the tech explanation on OM earlier…
2. Peter 2

   1 February 2022 at 6:11 pm

   What did Chris Hipkins learn today? When you are asked about situations if people are involved, you simply say, "I am unable to comment in case they feel their confidentiality is compromised."

   It means of course that scumbags and liars could get their perspectives out without contrary views or conflicting claims of facts to measure them against, but that's okay.
3. Kat 3

   1 February 2022 at 6:12 pm

   Has Luxon made his move too soon, are we in for twenty months of Dirty Politics……the Bellis debacle would suggest "its game on" with first serve to National/Act and their shills in the MSM.
   • Puckish Rogue 3.1

     1 February 2022 at 6:20 pm

     Consider this from Kiwiblog:

     [deleted quote without link]

     Sure theres some hyperbole but also more than a little truth to it as well. Labour need to be a bit more careful in future.
     • Muttonbird 3.1.1

       1 February 2022 at 6:28 pm

       I see Bellis was even offering us advice on Covid response re vaccinated travellers.

       She certainly rates her own opinion.

       I would link to it but there have been so many stories I can't remember which one it was in.

       Anyway, all sorted now. But it seems the urgent travel wasn't so urgent, she's not due to step out onto the red carpet until March!
     • Kat 3.1.2

       1 February 2022 at 6:36 pm

       Consider this……

       https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300507802/how-charlotte-bellis-story-risks-trivialising-the-taliban
       • Puckish Rogue 3.1.2.1

         1 February 2022 at 6:40 pm

         What it comes down to for me is that a pregnant kiwi wants come home, why is it being made so difficult for her.

         This government dropped the ball when it came to MIQ and bringing home our people.
         • Kat 3.1.2.1.1

           1 February 2022 at 6:55 pm

           Only the hard hearted would not welcome any pregnant woman home, its the 'making it difficult' bit that is in question here. The MIQ system is not perfect and neither is the govt, my bet is they will sort it out. The govt is under extreme pressure to please everyone during this pandemic, an impossible task.
           • Puckish Rogue 3.1.2.1.1.1

             1 February 2022 at 7:00 pm

             Is it really that hard to prioritise?

             Sick, pregnant, wounded etc go to the front of the line.

             Not that hard.
             • Kat …

               1 February 2022 at 7:13 pm

               etc etc…dying grandparents, dying parents, dying partner, dying siblings, dying son, dying daughter, dying business, dying mental health……..

               Not that hard……………….
               • Peter …

                 1 February 2022 at 7:44 pm

                 No Minister should have anything to so with anything past handing out the strict "paint-by-numbers-rules" for the bureaucrats to implement.

                 Priority order?

                 1. Sick. Now, let's see. Sick? How sick? Anything to do with access to specialist medical care? Or just 'sick' as a category? I can see an industry arise around that. "My lumbago is terrible."

                 2. Pregnant. How pregnant? Any stage along the line? A person one month pregnant who has months before the birth beats anyone in the subsequent place?

                 3. Dying child?

                 4. Or dying parent?

                 5. Or dying grandparent?

                 There'd have to be a priority set down so the only decision made is simply applying the rule not making judgements.

                 Someone with a sickness beats a pregnant woman who automatically beats a dying child or a family member having been in a bad accident?

                 Yes, let's take the politics and humanity out of it because we can't trust people to make the 'right' decision, let's eliminate the 'too hard basket.'

                 317. Went overseas for a holiday?

                 Now I can see why there were calls for no MIQ from some quarters. Too hard to administer. You were overseas and wanted to come back? You should have been able to come straight back in, no restrictions and just got on with life. Or death, or spreading the virus. I mean we all have to die at some stage.

                 Before the first 1,000 deaths under that sort of a regime Ardern would have been labelled the most heinous evil Prime Minister we'd ever had. By the time we'd reached the inevitable 5,000 she'd be significantly worse. But wait! I've seen that level of condemnation in recent weeks.
               • McFlock …

                 1 February 2022 at 8:03 pm

                 and then suddenly there's no room for anyone else.
             • Shanreagh …

               1 February 2022 at 7:37 pm

               She basically applied incorrectly. She made a mistake. She was invited to apply correctly but chose to splatter everything publicly.

               I mean how difficult is it to read through a process and pick the correct channel? I would have thought being a journalist she would have a reading comprehension much higher than many but others seem to manage.

               If I hear the name again in the next half century it will be too soon for me.
             • Shanreagh …

               1 February 2022 at 7:45 pm

               She basically applied incorrectly. She was turned down and invited to reapply under the correct category. Instaed of doing this she chose to splatter it all in the court of public opinion.

               I am not sure why she could not just go 'oh oh I made mistake I'll reapply correctly'. I am not sure why as a journalist she misinterpreted the process. Being a journo I would have thought her comprehension skills would have been higher than many. Many others have applied and got it wrong and been corrected, or right and been approved without getting their knickers in a twist.

               If I hear the name again in the next half century it will be too soon for me.
             • McFlock …

               1 February 2022 at 8:02 pm

               except she wasn't wanting to go to the front of the line.

               She wanted to go a little bit down the line, but ahead of the lottery. And she wanted an answer now, rather than waiting a little bit so she'd qualify as an "emergency".

               Should there be an "urgent" category? Sure.

               But she wasn't wanting an emergency space. Maybe the plane tickets were the best she could book, maybe she had other reasons for delaying her departure from Afghanistan. But she didn't need an immediate answer.
           • DukeEll 3.1.2.1.1.2

             1 February 2022 at 7:59 pm

             So strange how there was this thriving industry not so long ago, with no to low barriers to entry that effectively managed demand and supply of rooms and flights simultaneously, with little effort and much profit.

             then the government came, took over and wanted to make, from a systems point of view a little tweak, but thought the whole system would be better designed from the ground up by the government.

             and fucked it right up. Another fine example of state intervention that would have been better managed privatised
         • alwyn 3.1.2.1.2

           1 February 2022 at 7:08 pm

           You are really not keeping up with the play.

           Saint Grant has ridden his trusty steed to the rescue and snaffled one of those MIQ spots that has mysteriously shown up. Why I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he did a Francis Drake when she gets back. He'll probably meet her at the Airport, throw his cape across a puddle in her path and personally carry her bags to the limousine he will have arranged for her.

           Anyway that is what I would do if I was a Labour politician who can see this story wrecking the support his party has from the women of New Zealand. Grant may be completely ignorant when it comes to the duties of his portfolio but he is very good at picking up the pieces when other Cabinet Ministers get thing wrong in the eyes of the public.
   • Byd0nz 3.2

     1 February 2022 at 6:25 pm

     It’s never too soon for the Nats use of dirty politics, it’s ingrained and that particular leopard cannot change their spots.
     I could carry on with more colourful terms on these dirty Nats , but Red Logic would delete my comment again being the redkneck moderator he is.
   • Ad 3.3

     1 February 2022 at 6:29 pm

     Labour won't finish troughing in support until we are out of Omicron's peak.

     I wouldn't expect Labour to reassert the narrative properly until Budget in May.

     Until then National gets the run of it – barring set pieces like light rail lat Friday and Ardern's 'reconnecting' speech this Thursday.

     Not much they can do about it really.
   • Ad 3.4

     1 February 2022 at 6:30 pm

     Not much Labour can do about reasserting the narrative until May budget.

     National get the run of it until then.

     Ardern needs Omicron to peak, in order to get back on the horse.
4. Robert Guyton 4

   1 February 2022 at 6:17 pm

   Judith: Ultimate Team Player (the movie).
5. weka 5

   1 February 2022 at 6:51 pm

   Mathematician explaining pandemic maths

   https://twitter.com/rcarlyleauthor/status/1488299950773444608?s=21
6. Muttonbird 6

   1 February 2022 at 6:56 pm

   The Medical Council has suspended anti-vax doctor Bernard Conlon.

   The reasons for the Medical Council investigation into Dr Conlon is that he has been outspoken about people's rights to "informed consent" in regard to vaccines. He refers to the Pfizer vaccine as the "Covid-19 gene vaccine" and says he considers the standard of information given to patients as "negligent".

   In December, Dr Conlon also filed a case in the Rotorua District Court over Medsafe's seizure of a shipment of Ivermectin he had ordered from overseas.

   "I also continue to spend countless hours researching alternative treatments," he said.

   "For 30 years, I have practised successfully as a rural GP and as such, I do my own due diligence on the management of a wide range of patient health problems. Early treatment protocols for Covid-19 are a game-changer, with a reduction in deaths by upwards of 85 per cent.

   Apparently Murupara has had 8 positive cases of Covid-19 and all have recovered. They were treated with ivermectin because Dr Conlon had his shipment seized, but neither Dr Conlon nor the article says how many of the 8 were unvaccinated.

   https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/murupara-doctor-suspended-from-practising-medicine-after-30-years/FBQ3YTZZUG7U4BNTSHNUBTI2FY/
7. Muttonbird 7

   1 February 2022 at 6:57 pm

   Oh dear, I seem to have gone into moderation for some reason. Several quality comments down the drain 🙁
8. Shanreagh 8

   1 February 2022 at 7:46 pm

   She basically applied incorrectly. She was turned down and invited to reapply under the correct category. Instaed of doing this she chose to splatter it all in the court of public opinion.

   I am not sure why she could not just go 'oh oh I made mistake I'll reapply correctly'. I am not sure why as a journalist she misinterpreted the process. Being a journo I would have thought her comprehension skills would have been higher than many. Many others have applied and got it wrong and been corrected, or right and been approved without getting their knickers in a twist.

   If I hear the name again in the next half century it will be too soon for me.
9. Dennis Frank 9

   1 February 2022 at 8:03 pm

   Three quarters of Kiwis want house prices to fall and almost half of us want them to fall substantially, according to the latest 1News Kantar Public Poll.

   https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/01/31/three-quarters-of-kiwis-want-house-prices-to-fall/

   Do you think the govt has noticed this? If so, will they give the public what they want? If not, why not? If so, how?

   So many questions. The Minister of Finance is unlikely to try and answer any, would probably deflect them in the general direction of the Reserve Bank. "I just do the budget – the days when people believed a minister of finance controlled the country's finances are long gone."

   The PM would point out that if people would just be kind, house prices wouldn't matter. Bernard Hickey would point out that he's spent several years trying to awaken everyone to the problem and the stats showing 3/4 are now woke are a relief. Do I think National could solve the problem? You gotta be kidding!
   • arkie 9.1

     1 February 2022 at 8:10 pm

     I noticed this earlier today, I said the support for the idea of falling house prices is popular:

     So there will potentially be very little political fallout for some decisive action on this issue from the Ministers and Govt, in fact, it could be very helpful to ensuring a third term.

     https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-01-02-2022/#comment-1857057
   • arkie 9.2

     1 February 2022 at 8:12 pm

     I noticed it earlier today and said at the time the popularity of the concept of falling house prices is popular:

     So there will potentially be very little political fallout for some decisive action on this issue from the Ministers and Govt, in fact, it could be very helpful to ensuring a third term.

     https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-01-02-2022/#comment-1857057
   • Herodotus 9.3

     1 February 2022 at 8:17 pm

     Do I think National could solve the problem? Labour are the government they came in 2017 with answers on how to improve house affordability and our kind PM doesn’t want unsubstained increases. Well 25% increase last year alone. Stop deflecting with National they are not the party that has failed and that is not making any comments on Tywford or Woods and there screwup of Kiwibuild. FAILURE and have killed the dream for the under 30’s of home ownership. Ps let’s discuss the current fiscaso regarding bank loans🥸muppets
10. weka 10

    1 February 2022 at 8:23 pm

    This seems reasonable.

    https://twitter.com/CharlotteBellis/status/1488373035568619522
11. Muttonbird 11

    1 February 2022 at 9:38 pm

    Apparently there is an Australian federal election in four months. If Scomo wins this, I will have lost all hope for that nation.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/460686/australian-pm-says-his-government-was-too-optimistic-before-omicron-surge
    • Koff 11.1

      2 February 2022 at 12:42 am

      I don't have a vote as I have a NZ passport, but we are hoping that Tweedledee (Albo) gets in rather than Tweedledumb (Scomo). Newscorp's media army is already in full attack mode against Aus Labor. You would think that Labor was actually going to do something radical from the way Murdoch's mob are carrying on. No doubt there will be pork barrelling a-plenty and money to fill Topham and Guerin's dirty little coffers, too. Oz will burn up or completely drown before anything really different happens.
12. Foreign waka 12

    1 February 2022 at 9:58 pm

    Sounds familiar?

    https://youtu.be/f1EtPi8yn-k
13. Anne 13

    1 February 2022 at 9:58 pm

    Thank-you for coming to NZ Muzhgan Samarqandi. You are just the sort of person we need in this country:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2022/feb/01/trivialising-the-taliban-is-not-the-way-to-force-new-zealand-to-change-its-covid-quarantine-rules
14. Ed1 14

    1 February 2022 at 10:38 pm

    I was surprised to see this from Josie Pagani

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/127627615/transmission-gully-shows-we-need-to-rethink-the-public-sector

    Apart from problems caused by Covid and weather and possibly problems with the private construction consortium doing their job, what could the government have done in terms of the PPP Contract. Are the delays yet another PPP botch, or alternatively where have the public sector failed since 2017?

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