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Epsom: spit or swallow?

Written By: - Date published: 8:59 am, November 14th, 2011 - 66 comments
Categories: act, campaigning, election 2011, john banks, john key, leadership, national, national/act government - Tags: ,

Oh to be an Epsom voter – what an enviable menu of options you have. A National candidate who cares so much about the electorate that he goes to extraordinary lengths to discourage people from voting for him, or a racist former National politician soundly rejected by all of Auckland after a dismal ‘Supercity’ mayoralty who’s actively campaigning to undermine his own racist former National politician party leader. What a shonkey farce!

66 comments on “Epsom: spit or swallow?”

  1. Roy 1

    Is that black bag in the foreground the recording device? And we’re supposed to seriously believe that Jonkey didn’t notice it?

    • Lanthanide 1.1

      More to the point, if you look just behind Key, that’s a doorway leading outside. The editor of the HoS was on Morning Report this morning and he talked about that doorway. He said that the reporters outside could hear about every 4th or 5th word that was being spoken anyway, it was only the recording that gives you all the words.

  2. dd 2

    At this stage I am going to do the unthinkable and vote National in the electorate.

    I can hardly bring myself to do it.

    Living in the area and being ‘connected’ one way or another to some of the die hard National voters I sense that the majority will be voting National. It appears there is little love for Brash and Banks here in Epsom.

    Of course closer to the election day if the polls close I imagine some will swing to ACT.

    • Make a sign of the cross as you do it and say a couple of Hail Marys afterwards.  Then consume strongish liquor and have another one when ACT are consigned to history that night.

      It will be worth it but I understand how it would feel to do this. 

    • Ianupnorth 2.2

      Sometimes you have to lance the boil to cure the ailment; releasing that pus will not be pleasant for you, but if it rids you (and us) of National it will be a very worthwhile act!

      • Tigger 2.2.1

        As a former resident of that electorate I salute your actions, dd. I’d do the same myself, even though I’ve never cast a vote for anyone other than Labour. But needs must. I hope other left voters are just as pragmatic as you. Having always felt that my candidate votes in that electorate were wasted it would be comforting to know that it might actually do some good for once…

      • Hami Shearlie 2.2.2

        Banks and Brash are about as pleasant as a boil – painful to have, awful to look at, full of muck, and oh what joy when they are removed!

    • Ed 2.3

      You can however console yourself with the thought that your electorate vote – and those of I hope many other Labour / Green / Mana / Maori supporters, will not change the number of National MPs. You can also say that there has been at least one time when John Key will be getting a lot of people voting the way John Key has indicated that he will vote for the electorate MP. The left can and will cooperate with him in the interests of New Zealand.

    • Jilly Bee 2.4

      I was talking to my sister-in-law yesterday who was bemoaning the fact that a colleague is voting National this year [she was horrified, of course] apparently for the first time. We then worked out that said colleague lives in the Epsom electorate. Problem solved!

  3. Jim Nald 3

    Epsom: spit or swallow?

    Depends … it is like how Nats regards the act [pun] of fellating … what is the difference for Nats between like and love?

    Answer: Swallow.

  4. tsmithfield 4

    I don’t know why the left is so precious about this arrangement.

    The same options are open for Labour under MMP. Why don’t they go and do a sweetheart deal with NZ first?

    • Lanthanide 4.1

      “Why don’t they go and do a sweetheart deal with NZ first?”

      Because Labour has principals and has never engaged in this sort of scummy deal.

      Don’t even bother bringing up Wigram, it’s been covered multiple times over the last couple of weeks. There is no evidence that Labour had a deal with Jim Anderton (Labour’s spending in Wigram has been higher than other electorates and all electorate funding is raised locally) and more to the point Jim Anderton won the seat on merit due to his large personal following. He didn’t have to do scummy deals like Banks does because Jim wasn’t a washed up reject.

      • tsmithfield 4.1.1

        “Because Labour has principals…”

        Yes I know that the Labour party has its share of ex-school teachers. Unsure if any of them have been principals though! This must surely be what you mean, because, you can’t honestly be referring to “principles”, now, can you?

        “…and has never engaged in this sort of scummy deal.”

        At least the way National is doing it they are signalling their coalition arrangements prior to people voting. In contrast, Labour got hitched to NZ First after the even last time and got tarred by a thoroughly dishonest politician. Looks like they haven’t ruled out doing the same this time, even though to do so would mean it would require them to hitch themselves the the same politician telling another massive lie, given that Peters has stated he will not be coalescing with any party, but will sit on the cross-benches.

        • Lanthanide 4.1.1.1

          “At least the way National is doing it they are signalling their coalition arrangements prior to people voting. ”

          Yeah, because everyone knows that National would form a co-alition with Mana and we need Key to come out and say that he won’t! And everyone knows that ACT would go into coalition with Labour unless they come out and say otherwise!

          What tripe.

          The Maori Party has said they can work with either main party in the interests of Maori. Are you going to come out bag them for not being ‘clear’?

        • felix 4.1.1.2

          I wouldn’t say too much about NZ First if I were you tsmithfield.

        • bbfloyd 4.1.1.3

          the national party have no principles other than pursuing power, and then holding on to it however they have to…everything else is irrelevant…. this is the reason national can openly undermine our political system without a qualm…. national supporters show by supporting this and defending it(to the point of encouraging others to follow suit) that they havn’t the first clue, and don’t have any intentions of learning, what a democratic society has to aspire to to have any chance of rising above the filth of despotic aristocratic rule that has plagued the true evolution of civilised humanity…

          ts.. unless you are one of the few profiting from the exploitation of humanities environment, then you are one of the clones cheering for your own abasement and destitution by the hand of your hero’s.. that makes you rather more stupid than the average moron… it makes you a tory..

        • mik e 4.1.1.4

          National full of unsuccessful business people

    • felix 4.2

      The issue is that ACT consistently attract the support of ~1-2% but National bumps that up to 5 MPs for them by giving them a seat they can’t win on their merits.

      It’s not precious to think that parties should be represented in proportion to their actual level of support. That’s exactly why the majority of kiwis support proportional representation.

      MMP definitely needs to be tweaked for accuracy in this regard, i.e. the nonsensical threshold and “bring-your-mates” rules that lead to disproportional results around the margins.

      • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 4.2.1

        It’s not precious to think that parties should be represented in proportion to their actual level of support.

        But that is precisely what ACT gets if it wins Epsom.

    • hoom 4.3

      I don’t know why the left is so precious about this arrangement.

      In general I agree, its how MMP works & I find it quite ironic that the otherwise stone-age Nats have picked up on & taken advantage of this while Labour is still in FPP mode.
      I don’t blame Labour for not doing a deal with NZF though, if a deal is to be done it should be with a party to the left of Labour guaranteed to be supportive of a Labour coalition not a Nact coalition: Mana or Greens. Not that the Greens need a deal.
      NZF has gone with Nact coalition in the past & could do so again.
       
      The whole Brash/Banks coup thing is horribly stinky but this is legitimate MMP.
      All that needs to be done to remove the problem of ACT having 3.65% & 5 MPs vs NZF with 4.07% but no MPs is to reduce the party vote threshold to 1% or 3%.
       
      My main fear though is that Goldsmith gets withdrawn outright. I guess there is reasonable chance that a bunch of Nats would vote Parker in protest? But would it be enough?

      • Uturn 4.3.1

        MMP is not designed to work this way, it’s just one of it’s loopholes that is commonly abused by politicans. There is a big difference between what can be done, what is legal, what is legitimate and what is right. Mix any of those up and you start the slide into redefining right by who is the least wrong.

        • Colonial Viper 4.3.1.1

          Drop the threshold to 4% and take out the electorate seat loophole altogether.

          • mik e 4.3.1.1.1

            CV just take the threshold out al together then no seat deal require
            Bill of rights strengthened to stop racists and bigoted parties

            • Colonial Viper 4.3.1.1.1.1

              I might be convinced on 3%. Let that work well for a while and then think about lowering it further…

              Must be my conservative side coming out haha

      • jaymam 4.3.2

        “My main fear though is that Goldsmith gets withdrawn outright.”
        But PM Key has said that he will vote for Goldsmith, so they can’t withdraw him now.

        I vote for a 3% threshold. That will reduce the need for the tactical voting that I’ve had to do for years in Epsom.

      • Lanthanide 4.3.3

        “NZF has gone with Nact coalition in the past & could do so again.”

        I don’t believe they can do it after this election. Key has categorically ruled Winston out, saying National would go into opposition rather than work with him. Winston has also ruled National out. Winston is one of the staunchest opponents to Asset Sales – the Greens are against Asset Sales too, but when push comes to shove I think National would do a coalition deal with the Greens before they did one with Winston.

        Of course this is a very dinemic environment so it could all be different by now.

  5. Lanthanide 5

    Latest stuff story on this today gives a much better picture of what was said: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5960522/Tea-tape-embarrassing-for-PM

    Senior editorial staff had expected the conversation to be boring but for Key and Banks to “traverse into the areas they did with the media pack less than one metre away is unfathomable”.

    However, the tape was not Watergate “by any stretch of the imagination”.

    “It’s just some silly ‘this is how we are going to rule the world stuff’.

    “It’s nothing that is going to bring down the Government but it’s certainly embarrassing.”

    Johns said there was one “injudicious” comment that could change the way some people vote.

    We know that they were talking about ACT, National and NZFirst’s electoral prospects. This last part makes me wonder if it was something racist that Banks said about Winston Peters.

  6. randal 6

    hey felix they know that if the public knew the truth thens they would be out on their asses immediately.
    they have perfected the art of lying to the people.

  7. ak 7

    Unbelieveable. He admits he has a comment that “could change the way some people vote” and that there is no legal impediment – yet still refuses to publish.

    Does any poor naif out there still cling to the delusion that we have an independent fourth estate?

  8. randal 8

    the fourth estate is a joke. they are shoulder tapped at jschool. their jobs are never advertised and they are expected to toe the line if they are not already of “that” persuasion.
    new zealanders have perfected the art of being sincere while telling the worst sort of lies.
    Or as Freud called it they are suffering from juvenile omnipotence. Like kids they think that if they something then it is true.
    In the meantime the real workers of this country are screwed down harder and harder to make their lives more comfortable.

    • felix 8.1

      From what I can gather randal there are very few in the media who even have a concept of “Fouth Estate”.

      Media people increasingly follow careers based not on journalism but on broadcasting, and consider it a type of performance like, say, singing or acting. In short, simply “being on the telly” is the important bit as opposed to why you’re on the telly or what you do on the telly.

      The powerful in society are treated as celebrities and reported on in those terms, with the focus on the minutiae of their personal lives rather than the effect their decisions have on the society. In this paradigm the media people see their own role as a kind of demi-celebrity one where rather than holding the powerful to account, they are junior members of the power clique itself.

      We’re all in the same club. We’re all on the telly together. It’s all an act.

      We’re all performers.

      We’re all stars.

      • Puddleglum 8.1.1

        Very well put, felix.

        That’s just the kind of ‘dynamic’ we have in our modern environment. 

      • mike 8.1.2

        Well said felix. Since when does a news organisation have material which is “explosive” and a “game-changer” and clearly in the public interest and there’s no legal problem yet they don’t publish? Something is fucked up here.

        I was thinking that this was likely just a publicity stunt until I see John Key today pulling out a “we don’t want news of the world journalism tactics in NZ” line. So he’s associating it with the illegal phone-hacking scandal to try to make it go away. That makes me lean back to thinking that there is something interesting on that tape.

        For fucks sake do your job media: publish and let the public decide. Before you become just another branch of the NAct PR team.

      • the sprout 8.1.3

        yes very well put f, nail on the head

  9. NickS 9

    Latest bit of stupidity:
    “Key not ruling out legal action”

    It’s a meeting in a very public place, so how exactly then his legal team is going to make a case out of this is somewhat beyond me and then there’s the chilling effect on the media of this legal action threat.

    • Blue 9.1

      “Key said: “He said he approached our people to get it back. He never did that. When I took the batteries out of it all of a sudden the sound went off. He then said in the paper ‘aw yeah he’d only got it and realised he had it in record when he went back to HQ. Not quite right.””

      Is Key saying here that he actually took the batteries out of the device himself? Or is this just Keyspeak and not intended to be interpreted as it is said?

      • Lanthanide 9.1.1

        Apparently the tea meeting ended when John Key noticed the black bag sitting at his elbow, opened it up and saw it was a recording device.

        So I don’t know whether he actually took the batteries out or not, but he did see what it was and it caused a (premature?) end of the meeting.

    • mike 9.2

      John Key: “We’re fair game, I don’t mind all that stuff. But it’s against the law to tape people without their permission and knowledge. It’s actually within the law for me to tape you and you not know that but it’s against the law to do what they did in my opinion.”

      Interesting isn’t it? Now Key is openly admitting that he sees himself as operating under a different set of laws to the rest of us.

      Remember when he threatened legal action against Bomber for ‘defamation’? How’s that case progressing BTW?

      • Lanthanide 9.2.1

        “Now Key is openly admitting that he operates under a different set of laws to the rest of us.”

        Um, no. Key hasn’t conveyed what he’s actually meaning very clearly, but what he meant to say is:
        It’s illegal for a 3rd party to record a conversation between two other people without their knowledge, but it is ok if one person in a conversation records the other person without their knowledge.

        • mike 9.2.1.1

          Yes fair point Lanth.

        • felix 9.2.1.2

          “Key hasn’t conveyed what he’s actually meaning very clearly…”

          There’s one for the books!

        • NickS 9.2.1.3

          It’s illegal for a 3rd party to record a conversation between two other people without their knowledge, but it is ok if one person in a conversation records the other person without their knowledge.

          Except in public places, such as cafes, otherwise there’d be a number of divorce cases thrown out when PI’s record stuff inside such places. Though we really need a legal geek’s take on this…

          • Lanthanide 9.2.1.3.1

            Good point.

            My post at 9.2.1 is just trying to de-garble what Key was actually saying. I have no particular insight into whether what he was saying is correct, or not.

          • mike 9.2.1.3.2

            A law professor on National radio this morning said that it could be illegal if the recording was intentional. It probably was imo, but the reporter says it was accidental, so how you could prove they are lying in court I don’t know. John Key said it was deliberate, and when asked why he thought so he said he wasn’t “going to go into all the details”, but that the recorder was running inside a black bag. That is a bit suss, but I’m not sure it’s proof.

            However the law professor also said that if the content of the tape is of sufficient public interest or contains information that the public need to know about in a functioning democracy, then making it public could be defended. She said that in her opinion the argument for sufficent public interest in this case “would be quite strong”.

  10. Uturn 10

    What I find most disturbing is that in the photo accompanying this article, Key’s face seems to be morphing into something else. His lower jaw is distorting and expanding out the the left hand side and overall his head seems to be too big.

    Reptilian Shape-shifter… all the proof you need right there. I’m surprised the media missed it.

    • the sprout 10.1

      that was my thought exactly, a genuine shit eating grin if ever there was one

      • joe90 10.1.1

        You’re on the money Sprout, my coprophagic old shepherd bitch had the same look about her.

    • Hami Shearlie 10.2

      Maybe his hawaiian trips aren’t for holidays – maybe he has a small role in the sci-fi drama “V”!

  11. anne 11

    A search on the internet and it said that if the so called conversation was recorded secretly and that recording was in the ‘public interest’ then that outweighs the ‘private interest’ so legally it will
    have to be released and another thing of being in the’public interest’ it was a political meeting of
    which affects the public of nz,so the ‘public interest’ should be observed. John you loose this one boy.Remember watergate,all those other ‘gate’ recordings they were in the public interest.

    • Carol 11.1

      Maybe the police complaint is a ploy by the Nats to run down the clock.

      • mike 11.1.1

        So now they have actually made a police complaint… This could still all just be a stunt to distract from discussion of real issues. Do we know the freelance journo’s name?

        However Key’s comparing it to the phone hacking scandal is encouraging me to think otherwise.

        The Herald is claiming they won’t publish for ethical reasons, not legal ones. But clearly there is sufficient public interest here. In fact, if the contents really are “game-changing”, isn’t it unethical to not publish? Surely common sense will win out here.

        Unfortunately we are talking about The Herald…

  12. rod 12

    I think the tape will have been permanently mislaid or tossed in the tide by now

  13. Deadly_NZ 13

    But it’s the storm that has blown up around this teapot tape. I mean nearly 700 comments on Stuff and more on The Herald. So it could well be the storm that has blown up is not going to go away for a while or until it’s released. Oh it could be a fun weekend..

  14. Uturn 14

    THE SNEAKY POO – a short play based on true events.

    Act 1

    [An upmarket cafe, two attention whores have invited their friends to a get together. Journalists look on.]

    Journo: As I left the café I smelt a fart. Was it you John?

    John: I like to fart as much as the next man, but this is a public place and you can’t make accusations like that.

    John’s friend: I smelt something like a fart but I’m not sure it was one, It could have been, but who cares. I once shit myself. Nobody cared.

    Café Patrons: God that stinks, is that a poo stain, John?

    Journo: It looks like it. I wasn’t really looking closely, but it could be.

    John: Look, everyone poops. If it is a poo, we are all guilty.

    Café Patrons: Tell us straight, John, was it you who let one loose?

    John: It’s something that could have happened, as opposed to something that couldn’t.

    Café patrons: Tell us… yes or no?

    John: If my undies were brown, it’s not fair to ask to see them.

    Café Patrons: Yes or no, John!?

    John’s friends: My undies are permanently brown. Anyone want to see them?

    Journo: You know, I’m not sure it was a fart. I often get sinus issues this time of year.

    Café Patrons: Our view of you is changing, John. You must say whether it was you.

    John: Why don’t you trust me? I love each and every one of you.

    Phil: Hey guys, I have something important to tell you…

    Everyone: Not now, Phil, we’re busy!

    Journo: I’m pretty sure it was a fart, maybe even a poo.

    John: You take that back!

    Journo: What am I saying? It definitely wasn’t a poo.

    Phil: guys?

    Everyone: Shut it, Phil!

    Journo: If it was a poo, it’d be unethical to ask.

    John: I’m calling the cops.

    John’s Friend: Watch out for the brown man crawling in your window!

    Act 2:

    [It is now a week later. The patrons are trying to see into John’s undies, but not trying very hard.]

    Phil: Guys… it’s really quite important …hello?

    Café Patrons: Show us the poo!

    Café owner: Sorry people I have to close the café, it’s past time.

    CURTAIN FALL.

  15. Hami Shearlie 15

    Where oh where was their “cone of silence”? Even Maxwell Smart had one of those. I had thought John Banks could take on the role of Max but he’s even more idiotic. I think Banksie would be a good “Hymie” instead! JK’s campaign is now out of “Control” and “Kaos” is winning! Such fun boys and girls, such fun!!

  16. Whanau 16

    LOL isn’t this the same govt that changed law retrospectively so the illegal tapping of Tuhoe is now legal. And John is somehow offended he was not told he was being recorded… Watch out journo’s, retrospective law change coming your way…

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    Here’s a story about stand-up comedy that shouldn’t be shocking: Adrienne Truscott’s first full-length show involves an hour of jokes about rape culture, during which time you can see her genitals. Supplied In reality though, how rape is… ...
    16 hours ago
  • Introducing: Wurld Series
    Emerging local musicians are given two minutes to introduce one of their songs and say whatever they like about themselves and their music. Wurld Series. Name: Wurld Series (Luke, Jared and James). Age: 24, 25, 30. Hometown: Christchurch.… ...
    16 hours ago
  • Tonight on Evening Report – March 31 2015
    Tonight on Evening Report we lead with a video cross to Hanoi to gauge how delegates from South East Asia, meeting on nuclear disarmament in Vietnam, have responded to news New Zealand has been spying on its trading partners. This and… ...
    Evening ReportBy Selwyn Manning
    17 hours ago
  • On The Dial – Episode 17
    This week in On The Dial, the Northland by-election, we go behind the scenes of Parliament’s Hansard office, talk to comedian Adrienne Truscott, and, of course, look back at the Cricket world cup. The National Party is promising to take… ...
    17 hours ago
  • Research on the price of protest in West Papua released – PMC
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    Evening ReportBy MIL_Syndication
    18 hours ago
  • Photo of the Day: 50 shades….
    The new suburbia; detached buildings so close you wonder why they bother and every mood from drab to dreary. At least you can no longer hear children play… now they’ve been banned. ...
    Transport BlogBy Patrick Reynolds
    18 hours ago
  • the win in winston
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    18 hours ago
  • NZ Government launches tax modernisation programme
    MIL OSI – Source: New Zealand Government – Tax modernisation programme launched Revenue Minister Todd McClay today released the first two in a series of public consultations designed to modernise and simplify the tax system. “Taxes are an important part… ...
    Evening ReportBy MIL_Syndication
    18 hours ago
  • Discovering the roots of Lttle Phnx
    Wellington-based synthpop artist Lttle Phnx talks about finding a sound that's as unique as her story of growing up. Lucy Beeler aka Lttle Phnx. Photo: Alexander Robertson/The Wireless Lucy Beeler aka Lttle Phnx makes sweet, electro, synthpop from a… ...
    19 hours ago
  • Former Federal Agents Charged with Bitcoin Money Laundering and Wire Fraud
    MIL OSI – Source: Federal Bureau of Investigation FBI – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Former Federal Agents Charged with Bitcoin Money Laundering and Wire Fraud Two former federal agents have been charged with wire fraud, money laundering and related offenses for stealing… ...
    Evening ReportBy MIL_Syndication
    19 hours ago
  • East Asia and the Pacific: Criminal Charges Filed against Protesters in Bur...
    MIL OSI – Source: United States Department of State – East Asia and the Pacific: Criminal Charges Filed against Protesters in Burma The United States State Department has issued a statement of concern after Burma authorities laid criminal charges against peaceful… ...
    Evening ReportBy MIL_Syndication
    19 hours ago
  • Oh dairy me
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    Rebuilding ChristchurchBy rebuildingchristchurch
    20 hours ago
  • Freedom of information and tikanga
    Yesterday the Māori Affairs Committee reported back on the Hawke's Bay Regional Planning Committee Bill. The bill looks relatively uncontentious, establishing a joint Regional Planning Committee with Hawke's Bay iwi to decide on regional plans and policy statements under the… ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    20 hours ago
  • National’s Bulldozer Lurches Onwards
    The National Government barely paused after their humiliating by-election loss in Northland. In his normal cavalier and dismissive manner Key shrugged off the defeat, "so I got it wrong on that one, but that's the way it goes." He he… ...
    20 hours ago
  • Feeding the watchdog?
    The Officers of Parliament Committee reported back today on the annual appropriations for the Ombudsman, and have recommended a significant increase in funding. There's additional funding to help it cope with its duties under OPCAT and the United Nations Convention… ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    20 hours ago
  • Another World is Possible Essay Competition
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    21 hours ago
  • “Fair-weather” scepticism
    My old man used to label us kids as “fair-weather sailors” when we bitched about working outside during bad weather. That phrase comes to my mind sometimes when I come across people who claim to be “sceptics ” (“Skeptics”)… ...
    21 hours ago
  • Legal Beagle: Compensation for Teina Pora?
    Teina Pora is innocent.The Government, having considered the matter, apparently agrees he should not be re-tried. It is not clear whether the Government agrees he is innocent, but I suspect they don’t.With no re-trial ordered, Pora’s involvement with the criminal… ...
    21 hours ago
  • No freedom of speech in Singapore
    Lee Kuan Yew is dead, but his legacy of oppression lives on:A teenage boy who posted a video describing late founding prime minister Lee Kuan Yew as a “horrible person” has been arrested by Singapore police. YouTube blogger Amos Yee… ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    22 hours ago
  • Up Front: Mind Your Language
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    22 hours ago
  • Labour and the moral high ground
    Since Andrew Little began his tightrope walk regarding whether Northland voters should or shouldn’t vote Labour, there has been much philosophising as to whether a “dirty deal” did or did not go down. To my mind, quite clearly, no deal… ...
    Occasionally eruditeBy jononatusch
    22 hours ago
  • Another day, another IGIS investigation
    One of the most significant changes John Key made to the Government Communications Security Bureau Act in 2013 was to weaken the protection for kiwi's communications. Previously, the Act forbade the GCSB from doing anything to intercept the "communications" of… ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    22 hours ago
  • Next stage of Beach Rd Cycleway underway
    Auckland Transport yesterday started the second stage of the Beach Rd cycleway which when finished should finally help to make the first stage as well as the Grafton Gully cycleway useful. The Beach Road walking and cycling project begins its… ...
    22 hours ago
  • QOTD: anonymous ex-TSA manager on behavioural profiling
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    Boots TheoryBy Stephanie Rodgers
    23 hours ago
  • Should you get your child immunised?
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    Gareth’s WorldBy Gareth Morgan
    23 hours ago
  • Should you get your child immunised?
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    Gareth’s WorldBy Gareth Morgan
    23 hours ago
  • Speaker: The Power of N – Nutrient Caps and Peak Dairy
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    23 hours ago

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  • Latest Air NZ plan carries on regional snub
    Christchurch Labour Members of Parliament have secured a meeting with Air New Zealand boss Christopher Luxon following the airline’s decision to cut its Christchurch to Tokyo summer flights.  They are also calling on the Minister of Transport Simon Bridges to… ...
    19 hours ago
  • Carmel Sepuloni back in Social Development role
    Andrew Little has reinstated Carmel Sepuloni as Labour’s Social Development spokesperson following the sentencing of her mother in the New Plymouth District Court today. “It has been a tough time for Carmel, but we both agreed it was appropriate she… ...
    20 hours ago
  • Government taking Kiwis for April Fools
    Many Kiwis will be wondering if the joke is on them when a raft of Government changes come into effect tomorrow, Labour Leader Andrew Little says. “First is ACC and National’s unwillingness to end its rort of Kiwi businesses which… ...
    22 hours ago
  • Time to show RMA housing affordability plans
    Labour is challenging the Government to reveal its plans to make housing more affordable through amending the Resource Management Act, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Labour remains willing to consider the proposals on housing affordability on their merits and… ...
    22 hours ago
  • John Key now admits no broad support for RMA changes
    John Key has now been forced to admit that he never had the broad political support to gut the Resource Management Act, says Labour’s Environment spokesperson Megan Woods. “Cornerstone legislation such as the RMA should never be changed without genuine… ...
    2 days ago
  • National’s changes leave student bodies in chaos
    The chaos created by National’s scrapping of compulsory student association membership may force the 86-year old Union of Students Association to fold, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson David Cunliffe says. “National’s 2011 Voluntary Student Membership Act has left student associations with… ...
    2 days ago
  • Tragedy must be impetus for better training
    The Police Minister needs to explain why unsworn and inadequately trained custody officers were put in a situation of caring for a medically unwell prisoner on a busy Saturday night, Labour’s Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. Commenting on an IPCA… ...
    5 days ago
  • Government must be more transparent on investor state clauses
    The Government must be more transparent around the draft investor state dispute settlements in the TPPA, says David Parker, Labour’s Export Growth and Trade spokesperson. “Labour is pro trade, and is proud of the FTA we negotiated with China, which… ...
    5 days ago
  • Protect university staff and student voices
    The Green Party believes ensuring student and staff representation on university councils is important. National recently passed a law reducing the size of university governance councils while increasing the proportion of the members nominated by, guess who… Steven Joyce. The… ...
    GreensBy Gareth Hughes MP
    6 days ago
  • C’mon Nick what’s the truth on the RMA
     “Nick Smith has got to fess up and tell us what is happening to his much vaunted RMA reform, Labour’s Environment spokesperson Megan Woods says.  “With just a day and a half to go before the polls open in Northland,… ...
    6 days ago
  • SSC salaries sink National’s spending spin
    Massive pay rises at the State Services Commission prove National’s claims of clamping down on spending in the public sector are simply fantasy, Labour’s State Services spokesman Kris Faafoi says. “Salaries in this one department are almost $70,000 more than… ...
    6 days ago
  • We can fix Christchurch and keep our assets
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    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    6 days ago
  • Epidemic of serious assaults in our prisons
    Labour wants stab proof vests and pepper spray for all corrections officers to keep them safe from the epidemic of serious prison assaults that are occurring around the country’s jails, says Labour’s Corrections Spokesperson Kelvin Davis.  “There have been five… ...
    6 days ago
  • Listen to the locals Hekia!
    Minister Hekia Parata needs to understand what consultation is, Port Hills MP Ruth Dyson says. “It means you have to listen to what people say in their submissions and then be able to demonstrate you have considered their views when… ...
    7 days ago
  • Thanking our caregivers
    Let’s celebrate and thank our caregivers. This week is caregivers’ week. It’s a chance to acknowledge the thousands of women, and occasional other person, who are caring for the elderly and disabled in our country. They hold people’s lives in… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    7 days ago
  • Mana Post shop the best outcome for community
    Labour MP for Mana Kris Faafoi has welcomed the move to place the services from the Mana Post shop to a local small business. “This is the best outcome for the community we could ask for. All the vital services… ...
    7 days ago
  • Labour looks to put the tea back into entitlements
    Labour is moving to restore the rights of Kiwis to take tea and rest breaks, Leader Andrew Little says. “Within months of the Government’s Employment Relations Amendment Bill becoming law we are already seeing some of our largest companies, including… ...
    7 days ago
  • Desperate money grab to keep Ruataniwha afloat
    The Hawke’s Bay Regional Investment Company’s decision to borrow $4 million to keep the Ruataniwha project afloat is a case of throwing ratepayer’s good money after bad, says Labour’s Water spokesperson Meka Whaitiri and Napier MP Stuart Nash.   “This bridging… ...
    1 week ago
  • Roundup: UN finds it “probably” causes cancer
    At last the UN has spoken out against the widely-used weedkiller Roundup. The UN’s International Agency for Research on Cancer has identified glyphosate, the principle ingredient in Roundup, as a probable carcinogen. They also include as probable carcinogens the insecticides… ...
    GreensBy Steffan Browning MP
    1 week ago
  • World water day: eight rivers in one day
    Our photo journey started by the Waioweka (also known as Waioeka) River which flows from Te Urewera to Opotiki, and is surrounded by beautiful forest. The water looked great! Kopeopeo Canal It contrasted greatly with the Kopeopeo Canal near Whakatane,… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    1 week ago
  • We all benefit when education meets everyone’s needs
    As Dyslexia week comes to a close,  Dyslexia NZ have reminded us that around 10% of our citizens are dyslexic and are entitled to better support. One of their strongest arguments is that failure to provide identification and support for… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    1 week ago
  • Big change starts small
    Today marks Race Relations Day in New Zealand. Race Relations Day coincides with the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination.  The United Nations General Assembly chose this day as it marks the day in 1960 when 69 peaceful… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Israel, Palestine and the question of statehood
    The knife-edge election in Israel complicates the Middle East situation, even more than usual. The Prime Minister-elect, Binyamin Netanyahu, is moving to form a government. Netanyahu has indicated that, during his term, a Palestinian state would not be established. That… ...
    GreensBy Kennedy Graham MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Christchurch transport goes backwards
    The Green Party has a vision of a liveable, accessible Christchurch with a sense of identity and strong connected communities. Instead, 2013 census figures released by Statistics New Zealand reveal a fractured community, and tell a story of frustrated Christchurch commuters… ...
    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Super Fund should divest $140 million in high risk coal
    The Green Party is calling on the New Zealand Super Fund to divest their $140 million investment in coal companies that are vulnerable to becoming financially stranded according to a damning new report from Oxford University. The Smith School of… ...
    GreensBy Russel Norman MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Learn to count with Mark Osborne: 0 + 1 = ?
    The adage about the first casualty of war being truth is one that might often be applied to the political battle for hearts and minds, and of course votes. A rather unfortunate example of this has been arriving in the… ...
    GreensBy David Clendon MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Is it still a safety net when the holes are this big?
    Over the last few weeks I’ve been wondering how safe our income support system is for people, especially those with cognitive or learning disabilities. I’ve been trying to support a young man who was severely injured in a workplace accident… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Pasifika – protecting the Pacific needed now more than ever.
    Over the weekend thousands of Aucklanders flocked to celebrate our city’s diverse Pacific communities and cultures at the annual Pasifika festival and the Greens were there to join them. The Pasifika festival has been held every year for 23… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Sounds Stakeholders Seek a Sustainable Future
    It was heartening to see a large number of people who care about the Marlborough Sounds come together at the Marlborough Marine Futures’ forum in Picton on March 8. Fellow Green MP Steffan Browning, who lives in Marlborough, and I… ...
    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    3 weeks ago

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