Written By: - Date published: 10:36 pm, August 4th, 2008 - 87 comments
Categories: assets, bill english, john key, national, privatisation, slippery -
Tags: competence
The English tape has exploded into a massive scandal. You’ll be familiar with the content of the recording:
But what’s extraordinary is English’s reaction. At first, it seemed he was going down the classic Crosby/Textor line – deny the conversation, say you don’t remember etc (a la Key when he said he “would love to see wages drop“). He could have crawled away, tail between legs and hoped this would die quickly. But on TV1 tonight, he did something incredible – four times, when asked whether he thought Key did understand Working for Families, English said “it’s a complicated policy” (it’s not, see the trade-offs above); he refused to say ‘yes, Key does understand it’.
English is saying Key is incapable of understanding WfF. That, and the comments on the tape, constitute a blatant attack on Key’s leadership of National. English, 15 year veteran MP, knew exactly what he was saying: Key is not competent to deal in real policy; incapable of doing the job of Prime Minister.
Key cannot allow this to stand unanswered; the Key-English leadership team can no longer credibility survive. The only questions are: which of them is going to go? And how quickly?
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lprent says: ‘the right’ is evil. Individual right-wingers are bad people I can’t stand to be around. As a far sighted and virtuous individual, I have no choice but to be left-leaning. Woe!
“RedLogix isn’t a ‘fuckwit’ because he mixed up Helensville and Henderson.”
When you are trying to discredit someone because of their involvement in a selection, you do look like a fuckwit if you can’t even name the seat the selection happened in.
what does all that mean..piffle. the right are psychologically disposed to dominate for pleasure and exploit for profit. they get to form a government every now and then when they can hide their fangs long enough to form a coalition with other likeminded blighted individuals
Blar: Show me one place that I said that the right were evil?
What I said was (paraphrasing so you might understand) – that the right were incoherent because there were too many flavours and the combinations between them were terrible.
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/ has melted
I’ve said before that the right would probably do better if they split up into several parties but that I don’t think they will because they want that single party rule.
The one big party of the right always seems that they like mixing lemon sorbet with chocolate ice cream.
Individually ok, but makes a horrible sticky mess when stuck together. It is an experiment that only a child could love.
“When you are trying to discredit someone because of their involvement in a selection, you do look like a fuckwit if you can’t even name the seat the selection happened in.”
No you don’t, Blar. It’s a fairly simple mistake, people often type in a hurry when at work, for example, breaks don’t last forever. That’s exactly why you need to grow up.
What do you mean it’s melted oob?
That’s the most internally consistent post Davey’s ever written.
I meant the the site seems down
Really?
I thought that was his new style – no words, just symbols.
It’s pretty good by his standards.
Doh ! Fuck I need a coffee
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This is such a beatup. Last week it was Winnie, this week it is lame duck Clark watching the appropriations bill third reading slip further and further away as Peters strings out his use-by date. But the difference was that last week the media beat the whole thing up, this week they aren’t which means it will fade from public prominence even faster – like most of the causes campaigned here.
“Secret Trusts used to cover up the real source of their funding, and remains a closely guarded secret to this day.”
etc.
I’m sure you could dig the same sort of dirt on Labour if you chose to. Then why the bias?
“Imagine Micheal Cullen on TV, repeatedly undermining Clark’s leadership by refusing to say she understood a major policy, and saying its ‘complicated’, although you clearly purport to understand it yourself.”
Exactly what happened in Labour when Phil Goff was quoted on his leadership ambtiions couple of months back?
“People might be ‘sick of Clark and Cullen’ but the 600,000 people who joined kiwibank because it’s a Kiwi-owned bank might be prepared to overlook that.”
Is that proven? It’s like saying everyone who signed up for WFF is a Labour supporter (lol)
This is such a beatup.
Is it? Are TV1, TV3, Radio NZ, The Herald, The Dom Post, ZB Radio, and all the rest part of the plot? Damn commies.
Exactly what happened in Labour when Phil Goff was quoted on his leadership ambtiions couple of months back?
Oh yeah, that’s it exactly. The situations are exactly the same. It’s OK Swampy, this is all just a bad dream. You’ll wake up soon and you’ll be in your Happy Place.
Swampy. You’re interesting. Assume you’re UK based because you come on here in the late evening hours after a thread has dried up, make 3 (always 3) successive comments, which usually state something already dealt with earlier in the thread or something already dealt with in the wider discourse…. you’re welcome to do so of course, it’s just interesting and I wonder i you might be able to contribute more challenging and substantive comments in the future.