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On supporting the Rugby World Cup

Written By: - Date published: 1:16 pm, June 2nd, 2011 - 112 comments
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I seem to vaguely remember hearing in the last couple of days that John Key was calling for people to support the RWC (and his reelection campaign). I could be mistaken because I can’t find it or alternatively that news item has sunk like the expected number of people employed on the cycleway. But I figured I should show my support for the event.

The only problem is that I really don’t have a lot of support to offer, in fact I have a lot of anti-support.

When I was a kid, I played almost every game that was prevalent at the time – including club rugby. But that was something that I did because of the pleasure of doing it, and because my parents appreciated the effects on my growth. I stopped when I was able to do more interesting things like university, being in the army, work, and generally being a adult.

But I’m afraid I’ve never quite grasped the point of having lard-arses who are not playing sitting around squealing with vicarious childish excitement as other people do all of the work. Mostly I look at them and wonder if the supporters are just having a new age moment. Does assiduously watching others exerting effort will somehow transfer its effects to themselves?

Certainly this appears to be the main focus of advertisers where they seem to suggest that I will get the body odor effects of hard exercise from the All Blacks? It doesn’t seem to work for me. I get those effects when I exercise myself rather than having the All Blacks do it for me. When I just sit around watching TV or sitting at a event, I usually just put on weight.

Sure I realize that it is entertainment rather than being anything more serious, but it is also particularly dumb entertainment. And then there are real world effects of others obsessions that I can’t flick off with the remote..

The main thing I notice about the Rugby World Cup is that has been intruding into my life in a noisy and irritating way. It feels rather like having some religious crazy trying to sell me on faith in a book that I’d already read before they were born.

Moreover, Eden park is just over the gully from home, so we’ve been living with the effects of the traffic and construction activity for a while. But in Auckland that is almost background noise. What is annoying are the supporters whose minds have clearly never been exercised by the sport, but whose mouths clearly get far too much exercise – both imbuing and yabbering idiotically at high volumes.

Unfortunately I also live just down from some of the entertainment in Ponsonby and we’re already having the drunken arguments outside the house at 2am about the respective teams. It is a change from the occasional soap operas as boy postures for girl that is our other early morning fare. But at least that is interesting as a soap. Sports commentary by drunks isn’t. I’m expecting to have far more of this both outside my home and from the morons called sports commentators in the media.

So I offer no support for the RWC, and I hope that the damn thing is over sooner rather than later.

But getting to the point of the post. This comedic opinion provided by the Dead Cat Bounce has been the most interesting thing that I’ve seen about rugby in decades.

112 comments on “On supporting the Rugby World Cup”

  1. Anthony 1

    My main gripe is the amount of people being kicked out of their flats so the landlords can make some money off the RWC.

    The 42 day ‘landlord moving back in’ notices seem to be flavour of the month.

    Because of the rental market they will have no trouble getting tenants afterwards.

  2. John D 2

    That video is brilliant!

    • ianmac 2.1

      +1 :)

      • John D 2.1.1

        ” ball shaped like a giant testicle” it says in the song

        I am getting worried now. Are they supposed to be that shape?

        • Bunnykinz 2.1.1.1

          You could always ask Bob Clarkson so give you a quick squeeze to make sure they’re the right shape. I have heard he is something of an expert on the subject.

    • marsman 2.2

      A funny video. Gay men will laugh, I know.
      After paying for the RWC hooha tax-payers are now urged to get behind it. What are the returns? Less than zilch it seems, but that’s NAct all over.

      • Jim Nald 2.2.1

        Thanks to National’s incompetence and mismanagement, the losses and debt from this and their other failed policies that may result would be their legacy of a Brokeback Mountain for Kiwi taxpayers to climb.

        • Chris 2.2.1.1

          I’m all for criticizing politicians when they’re shut but I’m not sure how national have mismanaged this? When they came to power it was already pretty set what was happening.

          Not saying that means labour mismanaged either. From a political perspective I don’t see that it has been mishandled.

          • Colonial Viper 2.2.1.1.1

            The mismanagement has come from throwing good public money after bad, subsidising private interests each step of the way with tax cuts etc, and pretending that there will be a pay off for NZ at the end by labelling the money spent as an “investment”.

            This at a time the public is being told to tighten its belt and to expect public services and public sector staffing to be slashed.

      • Morrissey 2.2.2

        True enough, marsman—but let’s not forget it was a Labour government that went all out and actually secured the enormous debt tournament.

        • Jim Nald 2.2.2.1

          When Labour went out to secure the tournament, it was not an inevitable debt but it would, with competence and good management (and a RWC minister who hasn’t been caught napping), have been an opportunity to make some profit and use the event to leverage off many spin-off projects and initiatives.

          McCully’s and co’s handling at many steps of the way have been poor and, quite frankly, really dismal. The eye-rolling “cloud” and tupperwaka have been symptomatic of how not to manage your way through and deliver a significant event. The inertia in deciding and announcing the move of fixtures from Christchurch was badly handled and wasted the time of travel agent and visitors who were trying to plan.

          Oh great, looks like “Kiwi taxpayers face a loss of close to $100 million” – so we have about 90 days lead up to RWC and what will be done to turn things round? (I’m in two minds whether to suggest or generate urgency here .. should Nats be left to wallow in their RWC tomb?) So Nats are good with business? Whose business? What business?

          Let’s await the report card on the government come post-RWC. Labour, Winston, Greens and Mana – are you making notes?

  3. happynz 3

    I quite like to watch sport (not all sport mind you – especially not soccer nor excruciatingly boring motor-racing). I also participate in sport to the extent that my physical ineptness allows me. Work can be grim and boring at times so a little bit of entertainment doesn’t go amiss.

    The media’s ‘call to arms’ to get behind the Rugby World Cup does make me cringe a bit. I’m not the flag-waving sort.

  4. vto 4

    lprent that is a bit disappointing. Imagine if similar had been posted about some gay outfit bazaar. Or perhaps the gaggle of gays comment by O’Connor recently. Or similar about Otara Markets. Or… the list goes on. Smells bigoted. It is reverse red-neckism. Sheesh.

    I thought the left were all about tolerance for their fellow manwoman no?

    • lprent 4.1

      Bearing in mind my behavior pattern not only of banning people but also attempting to humiliate them when their behavior causes me too much effort moderating this site. And you still think that I’m a tolerant person?

      I’m tolerant of people arguing a position. I’m not tolerant of idiot behavior and I’m not shy of saying so.

      That doesn’t mean that I either have to agree with a position partially or fully. I will make up my own mind on everything after I have looked at whatever material is going. You should look closely about what I say about people like Damien O’Connor (nothing as I recall). On some things I will express my opinion quite strongly (Chris Carter for instance). I get regular complaints about it.

      In this case it means that I will respect my brother who is a bit of a sports maniac and makes a living from it. It doesn’t mean that I think it is a particularly good idea being a sports spectator like he sometimes is. I will tolerate him talking about it in the same way that he will tolerate me talking about science or computers.

      But I’m afraid that I draw the line at drunken idiots talking about rugby in the street at 2am. I think that is bad behavior – don’t you? That is the position I’m arguing, and I’m attributing it to the boorish behavior that seems to be associated with a lot of rugby supporters. You’re welcome to disagree.

      And the video is just funny….

      • vto 4.1.1

        Yea partly. The video is funny… in the same way that people make jokes about other races and genders and religions and sexual orientations. And look how upset those various groups get when the mickey is taken out their arses. Don’t get me wrong – I’m all for pulling people’s tits. It’s just that so many people seem to get upset at tit pulling yet laugh their own tits off when such humour is directed at people other than them. Hypocrisy of a type.

        And yep anyone yelling in the streets at 2am is a cock-sucker. (may as well get into the swing of things).

        Just pushing the double-standard button that’s all. Doesn’t worry me – get into it I say. Just don’t complain when some other group of people get the mickey taken out of them.

        And on that note… have you heard the one about the maori gaybo riding a horse down Queen Street?

        • stever 4.1.1.1

          Making fun of other people’s free choices and opinions (religion-if it IS a free choice-, sport, dining habits) is OK—might not be popular, or appropriate at some times, or comfortable, but the things we freely choose to do and say (as competent adults) are fair game for criticism and ridicule.

          Things we have no choice over (where we’re born, our orientation, some disability, the colour of our skin, or gender) when ridiculed or argued against in some way is wrong for a competent adult, and such behaviour is rightly criticised.

          Why is it wrong? Because it’s cruel and harmful.

          A video about rugby is surely in the former category.

    • Carol 4.2

      Actually, I thought the video is taking the p**s out of the hard man rugby attitude that uses gay as a term of ridicule -. I’ve seen gay men run a similar line in send-up.

    • felix 4.3

      Haha “reverse red-neckism” v?

      Is that like “reverse stupidity”?

      You must hate those bloody firefighters too v. After all it’s just “reverse arson”.

    • vto, if you think through your position through then the equivalent video clip would involve playing the public’s suspicions of latent heterosexuality at the Big Gay Out (or something) for laughs.

      The problem is that I’m not sure it would get many laughs – and there are a number of reasons for that. Those reasons show why your point doesn’t really ‘scan’.

      I get your sentiment but, by the same token, we shouldn’t make fun of corporate executives who claim they’re innocently running their companies to ‘help society’ or ‘save the environment’. But the fact is that we can (successfully) parody them because of the suspicion that that isn’t their real motive. That’s what so much satire depends upon.

    • Morrissey 4.5

      vto, what the HELL do you mean by “reverse red-neckism”?

      You need to read this…

      http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17052011/#comment-331423

  5. ianmac 5

    The ultimate rugby players are the Golden Oldies. Never before, apart from kids games, have I watched such huge pleasure expressed by big old men plodding around the paddock. When one gets a bit puffed he drags off his jersey and hands it over to someone, anyone standing on the sideline. In the first match a brittle old chap fell, wasn’t pushed, and broke his forearm. One of the team rushed off to the sideline, kicked a beercrate to bits, and rushed back on ready to make a splint. They did get proper medical help for him, the injured him I mean.
    So I think the people to be admired are those who play the game at whatever level, and find the manic spectator hard to figure. The few times that I went to watch a “big match” I spent most of my time just watching the watchers. Fascinating.

  6. I wont be supporting the RWC either.

    One of the reason is the lies coming out the media about how global this thing is.

    The other is in my personal exoperience, Rugby fans dont support other sports.

    Its always the rugby fan that is homophobic and calls a soccer fan a poofter.

    Its always the rugby fan that knocks league.

    Its always the rugby fans that knocks basketball.

    I have never heard a feild hocky fan knock another sport.

    I have never heard a netball fan knock another sport.

    But rugby fans tend to do this, perhaps they have some sort of chip on their shoulder??

    So rugby fans enjoy your rwc, but dont exopect non rugby fans to get behind it, because you guys dont get behind our sports.

    • The Voice of Reason 6.1

      Nicely put, Brett. I like to regularly remind my few rugby head friends that NZ are currently World and Four Nations Champions in league and that was acheived against the odds without massive media/government/industry sponsorship. And that Rugby Union is just a pension enhancing option for league players who can’t hack it anymore.
       
      The facts are straightforward. Rugby has ceased to be a significant player sport in NZ, most rural and provincial clubs are amalgamating or folding, bugger all money comes from on high down to the grass roots and if it wasn’t endlessly on the telly, it would quickly whither and die.
       
      It’s a dangerous, ridiculously complex and desperately boring game, mostly played by people who aren’t hard enough for league or bright enough for football. And speaking of football, god spare us from the thugby fans who think they know about the game they play in heaven. There are more teams than Chelsea or Man U, you dimwitted tools and no, you don’t know the offside rule.
       
      I’ve decided to get out of NZ for the whole thing. I’m moving to Abbottabad, Pakistan in late October for a month or so just to avoid the whole World Cup circus. Doing a home swap with a nice bloke with a rather distinctive Saudi accent. Mind you, he hasn’t been in touch recently … hope there’s nothing wrong?

      • Morrissey 6.1.1

        The Voice of Reason: So you don’t like football. That’s fine. Just say it, but leave out the ridiculous, tortured rationale.

        • The Voice of Reason 6.1.1.1

          I love football, Mozza. Played it all my life and and I’m West Ham Till I Die. It’s rugby union I don’t like.

          • Morrissey 6.1.1.1.1

            You don’t like football. This is New Zealand, my friend. Your reasons are unconvincing, by the way. How much do you know about rugby? Not much, judging by your comments.

            Perhaps you’re a rugby journalist?

            • The Voice of Reason 6.1.1.1.1.1

              Ha, I’d make a great rugby journo. I’d be the only honest one in the press room for a start and the only one not grovelling to the RFU. It amazes me how anything the TV commentators say can be understood, what with their tongues so firmly lodged in Graham Henry’s arse. I’d still eat the free tucker and drink the sponsors product, though, but only out of contempt.
               
              Speaking of Henry, in football, he would have been shown the door years ago with a record that awful. Hell, even having a good season doesn’t always save you from being sacked. You’ve got to actually deliver meaningful silverware not promises.
               
              Is it too late to cancel the whole thing? The rest of the world won’t care, because they don’t know it’s happening anyway.

              • Morrissey

                Why do you think the commentators support Henry? Their comments after the last RWC were extraordinarily vitriolic, and ignorant, just as they were before and after the 1999 tournament.

                Speaking of Henry, in football, he would have been shown the door years ago with a record that awful.

                Henry is “in football”. I’m intrigued about this: would you insist on calling soccer “football” if you were in the United States?

                • The Voice of Reason

                  I think they support Henry because their jobs rely on it. To be fair, though, I’m sure there was criticism after the last RWC when they felt safe to comment because they expected him to be sacked. But they would have returned to type as soon as they realised he was staying on.
                   
                  The language is interesting. I don’t know anyone bar you who refers to rugby as football anymore, though there are plenty in football here who still call that game soccer. Footie in Oz is Rules if you live in Victoria, League if you live on the East Coast. And, of course football is Gridiron in the states. NZ Football has made a conscious effort to go with FIFA’s preferred usage and I think it’s only the States that still formally stick to soccer in their national organisation’s name.
                   
                  One of the great things about football is that you don’t need to know what it’s called or indeed even share a language to play the game. It’s such a simple concept and with only only 11 primary rules compared to Rugby’s labrynthine mess it’s no wonder it remains the world’s favourite game. One of my favourite sporting memories was playing in a Moscow park in a pick up game between two sets of students. Russia vs the Rest of the World (mainly Africa) and I didn’t understand a word anyone said from either team, but still managed to slot into the game without difficulty. Fantastic!

                  • Morrissey

                    The language is interesting. I don’t know anyone bar you who refers to rugby as football anymore..
                    Nonsense. You need to get out more.

                    Footie in Oz is Rules if you live in Victoria…
                    No, it’s football. “Footie” is a puerilization.

                    And, of course football is Gridiron in the states.
                    No, football is football. The gridiron is a slang term for the field.

                    NZ Football has made a conscious effort to go with FIFA’s preferred usage…
                    Actually, that stems from a directive by John “Possumhead” O’Neill. Until then, NZ Football had called itself Soccer New Zealand.

                    Your other comments (about rules, etc.) are all very interesting, and I endorse them wholeheartedly.

                    • Samuel Hill

                      You old fellas might still call rugby “football”, but history and the rest of the world will absolve that.

    • Morrissey 6.2

      Its always the rugby fan that is homophobic and calls a soccer fan a poofter.

      Nonsense. I’m a rugby fan and I have never said that, or thought that, about a soccer fan. Same goes for most rugby fans I know. They are far more informed and generous than you say they are.

      Of course, there are certainly halfwits like Andy Haden, who publicly taunted the dying Lew Pryme as a “mincing poofter”, recently slammed rape victims as “sluts” and told lies about the Canterbury Crusaders having a quota policy for Polynesians. The fact is: some rugby fans and players are like that, and unfortunately a disproportionately large number of rugby commentators certainly say demeaning and ignorant things about all manner of things.

      I’ve snipped the rest of your ridiculous comments.

      By the way: you’ve mis-spelled it’s all the way through your splenetic and untruthful rant.

      • Brett Dale 6.2.1

        I go by my own experiences, the amount of times I have been verbally abuse for liking another sport that isn’t rugby, the amount of times I have heard a rugby fan has been ripping into another sport must be in the hundreds.

        I have yet to hear fans of other codes do this, it seems to be ina rugby fan’s mindset to do this.

        • Pascal's bookie 6.2.1.1

          Certainly Rugby fans in NZ can be pricks about it, but it’s the same all over with dominant sports. In Britain football fans deride minority sports, rugby is a ‘poofters game’ etc. To say that it’s particular to some sort of rugby mindset is just showing the exact behaviour yourself.

          To ask the obvious question, what preparations have been made to stem the expected tide of rugby hooligans, in comparison with a FIFA event?

          —————————

          I stopped playing several years ago, and I don’t watch as much as I used to. I don’t like many of the new rules, as they seem to have changed the game from one that was basically all about a contest for possession, (genuinely contested scrums, lineouts, rucks, and mauls) to one about field position where the rules do most of the protection for you and you only lose possesion through fucking up. It’s a faster game to watch, but it’s a fundamentally different game from what it was. I’m finding the contests to be boring in the way that I find league to be boring. Which is not to say that others can’t like it.

        • Morrissey 6.2.1.2

          I go by my own experiences, the amount of times I have been verbally abuse [sic!] for liking another sport that isn’t rugby, the amount of times I have heard a rugby fan has been ripping into another sport must be in the hundreds.
          I suspect these “hundreds” of people were “ripping into” you and your absurdly bloviated sense of injustice.

          I have yet to hear fans of other codes do this, it seems to be in a rugby fan’s mindset to do this.
          Nonsense. Utter nonsense. Just looking at some of the resentful anti-rugby comments on this thread blows your ridiculous excuse for an argument out of the water.

    • Deadly_NZ 6.3

      not only That Brett you forgot the biggest lie from the media: It’s going to be exciting. Yeah right who effing cares???? it has to be the most boring game, so full of Prima donna’s it’s starting to make English soccer seem more blokey..

      I will be so glad when it’s over and we can get back to sanity with league and cricket.

      how do you make Rugby interesting????

      6 tackles then kick or chase!

      • Morrissey 6.3.1

        how do you make Rugby interesting????
        Good point, my friend. I think for a start, all kicks at goal should be drop-kicks, and a team should not be rewarded for putting the ball out of play, as happens now. Quick throw-ins, and quick KICK-ins as well, in any direction.

        6 tackles then kick or chase!
        That’s not the answer. For all its faults, and there are many, Rugby Union is far more spectacular than Rugby League.

  7. Jim Nald 7

    Wasn’t that a high tackle there ?

    • lprent 7.1

      I thought it was more of a fondle…. :twisted:

      I tell you what though – that is good comedy.  I don’t think I’ll ever be able to look at rugby in quite the same way after watching that clip.

      • Jim Nald 7.1.1

        fondle? lemme watch again …

        • Jim Nald 7.1.1.1

          Hmm .. ok, that could be an ambiguous fondle/tackle.

          The best part of the video is the two guys who, unlike the guys playing rugby, are openly kissing: about 1’45″.

          • prism 7.1.1.1.1

            Perhaps we have the opportunity of spawning a new word to ‘fonkle’. Only the in-people who congegrate on The Standard will know this one, and all the rugby types will be bewildered and confused.

      • Bob 7.1.2

        Have you seen the clip that Dead Cat Bounce made on Golf , just as amusing . They are very funny.

        • lprent 7.1.2.1

          Yep. But that is better visually than in the song.

          Even better in the song is the one about the driving instructor with little kids being viewed as obstacles to learning how to drive.

  8. Carol 8

    I thought it was Murray McCully calling for getting beind the RWC.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/5082817/Get-in-behind-Rugby-World-Cup-boss-urges

    One hundred days out from New Zealand’s biggest international event, and after a year overshadowed by tragedy and recession, Rugby World Cup organisers and the Government are uniting in a call to Kiwis to get behind the tournament.

    • Jim Nald 8.1

      Sounds like he has been caught napping until now and was just suddenly being nudged awake. Yesterday.

    • lprent 8.2

      Could have been.

      There was also some travelling troupe that the RWC organizers had wandering the country that Key was involved in.

      It was something on the TV news background noise that I wasn’t paying attention to. At least not until I woke up and started fuming while I was debating leaving the nice warm bed to hurl abuse on the spectator yobs (they staggered off before I decided – the bed was warm).

  9. randal 9

    all the local tory boys on the dole are rooting for ozzy becuz they know if the AB’s lose then the gnats will be zapped.

  10. Maui 10

    lprent: you have my sympathy. I lived through the RWC in Sydney. It turned out that some of the English tourists I met were a lot better behaved than many of the locals – although in Sydney rugby is generally the game of well-bred private schoolboys while aspiring working-class boys play league.

    This too shall pass.

    What worries me is that the next election seems to hang on the fate of the NZRFU national team.

    • lprent 10.1

      I think that is more the political commentators being their usual simplistic selfs. This kind of stuff works well a long way out from the election in the same manner that sports commentators fill the airwaves with idiotic blather when they are in dead time.

      The reality is that voters tend to firm up markedly close to an election when they actually make up their minds and their minds won’t be swayed by minor trivia unless they don’t think that there is much choice (the united future result in 2002 comes to mind as an example of the latter).

      • Maui 10.1.1

        “The reality is that voters tend to firm up markedly close to an election when they actually make up their minds and their minds won’t be swayed by minor trivia unless they don’t think that there is much choice (the united future result in 2002 comes to mind as an example of the latter).”

        Yes, except that this election date is soon after the end of the RWC when emotions may still be high in various swinging electorates.

        How soon ? I’m frankly not sure. Does anyone have the dates ?

      • Treetop 10.1.2

        Key just wants rugby to be an escape from reality. The problem is when the rugby is gone the reality has to be faced.

      • Morrissey 10.1.3

        sports commentators fill the airwaves with idiotic blather when they are in dead time.

        Correction: Sports commentators fill the airwaves with idiotic blather ALL of the time.

  11. M 11

    Lynn

    LMFAO almost ROFLMAO but not quite although my office chair was groaning in protest. Just the pick me up I needed after a hard out day at work – will be forwarding to friends, thank you.

    ‘But I’m afraid I’ve never quite grasped the point of having lard-arses who are not playing sitting around squealing with vicarious childish excitement as other people do all of the work. Mostly I look at them and wonder if the supporters are just having a new age moment. Does assiduously watching others exerting effort will somehow transfer its effects to themselves?’

    Magic words those and they echo my sentiments exactly – the new age thing, priceless!

    • Carol 11.1

      I enjoy watching some rugby on TV, though I’ve lost interest lately. But to me sport is more like watching a live drama unfold. Sometimes I watch it while working out on the exercise machine – so not everyone is sitting & non-active while watching. I gave up going to matches many decades ago. I grew up in a rugby playing & watching family. In my younger days I spent quite a bit of time socialising with rugby players & spectators. As a teenager, I found much of the misogynistic attitudes, and other expressions of conservatism quite offensive.

      I think all the hype and political maneuvering over the RWC has been putting m off rugny generally lately. I enjoy watching some sports matches on TV, but I am not interested in all the pre- & post match hype & discourse. I dislike the way sport has become extensively commodified & usually am not interested in watching those extravagant opening & closing ceremonies – what a massive waste of money that could best be spent elsewhere!

    • lprent 11.2

      Thanks, I think I was inspired by sleep deprivation…

  12. Dr John Robinson on Radio NZ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uRJXcchOWI&feature=channel_video_title

    World Cup don’t come campaign http://ibwswrc.blogspot.com/
    RUGBY WORLD CUP – DON’T COME
    AN ISLAND BAY WORLD SERVICE CAMPAIGN

    At the 2010 ECO AGM a motion was passed “that Island Bay World Service inform ECO member bodies of its Rugby World Cup, don’t come campaign”. Here is that information, introducing the campaign.

    Rugby fans across the world must stay home and watch the games on television, and thus refuse to waste valuable oil and produce tonnes of greenhouse gases just for a game. That unambiguous call will send a clear message to the world to announce that we understand, we care and we are taking action.
    http://ibwswrc.blogspot.com/

  13. burt 13

    lprent

    Great post lprent, and love the clip. I was just explaining to a person reasonably new to kiwiana a few days ago I’m not a Rugby supporter so I’m not really excited about the World cup. For a Kiwi male it’s like coming out of the closet (I imagine) admitting you don’t really give a toss about Rugby.

    • Lanthanide 13.1

      “For a Kiwi male it’s like coming out of the closet (I imagine) admitting you don’t really give a toss about Rugby.”

      Having done both, they really are nothing alike. Sorry.

    • lprent 13.2

      It was a pretty amusing clip. They do have some other good clips out there as well.

      I enjoyed playing rugby when I was playing it. But that was about as far as it went. The RWC just leaves me totally bored with the inanity of the marketing and that just annoys me to active hostility.

      But I have exactly the same feelings about all sport. Enjoy doing it, bored with spectating, and as hostile to marketing it to me as I am to door to door religionist dogma.

      Bu I have always been like that. It was not that much of a hassle even inside my largely sport mad relatives or being a barman in the equally sport crazy public bars of Hamilton

  14. chris73 14

    Yep looking forward to the RWC (less then 100 days now!) but each to their own I say

  15. Zaphod Beeblebrox 15

    For a professional sport Rugby gets a huge amount of taxpayer support. The Auckland and Dunedin ratepayers are shelling out stadiums which will be controlled by non-public entities. Given the poor state of crowds we get for rugby in this country- you can guarantee these stadiums will need further public support unless you could guarnatee them 1/2 a dozen All-Black tests a year.

    You can see the NZRU are heading for big financial problems after the RWC since they simply can’t get enough people to come to games. Pretty sure the government can’t keep propping up the old boys club. Whats the solution? They need to amke the game more fan friendly and acessible IMO- how about a few S15 day games? You can’t take kids to sport in the dark and rain.

    • Morrissey 15.1

      They need to make the game more fan-friendly and accessible IMO- how about a few S15 day games?

      Hear, hear! In fact, how about nearly EVERY game being played in daylight? And certainly no night games after the end of April.

      You can’t take kids to sport in the dark and rain.
      I don’t really think the intellectuals morons running the game even care about the fans. Or the players, who hate the night games.

      • J Mex 15.1.1

        Hmmm, I’m pretty sure the timing of games has more to do with the enormous European television market, and would have been a condition of our bid.

        We would never have won if the UK viewers had to get up at 3am to watch games.

        Commercial/Commercials reality.

        • Morrissey 15.1.1.1

          You’re right, J Mex. Mind you, in balmy October, night games will come across well.

          The real sin against the players and spectators is night games in the middle of winter.

  16. Sam 16

    Didn’t Helen Clark secure New Zealand the rugby world cup? It’s not rugby’s fault that John is using the RWC to hide his shitty policies and shitty government.

    • lprent 16.1

      She did indeed, at considerable effort. Well she was not always right.

      • McFlock 16.1.1

        ” Well she was not always right.”
        bzzt…bzzt…a.Standard.moderator.does.not.100%.support.everything.HC did… bzzt…tory.brain.melting…bzzt…does.not.compute…bzzt…*pop*

        • lprent 16.1.1.1

          There are some who like things simplistic, and definitely prefer not to deal with reality.

          I worked with Helen in her electorate for about 17 years. We always disagreed at some level on most things because our backgrounds and skills were so different. But she was worth supporting, and evidentially I must have been doing a good job. I wound up targeting the local campaigns for much of that period with good results.

          It was always amusing watching the RWNJ’s with their idiotic ideas about her.

      • Morrissey 16.1.2

        In fact, she was often utterly wrong. Remember how she and her party went into panic mode after the Orewa speech by Don Brash? She listened to some genius of a strategist (Paul Holmes’ ex-classmate Mike Williams perhaps?) and swiftly moved to dissociate Labour from too close an association with Maori, lest Labour suffer pillorying from the likes of Leighton Smith, Michael Laws and Paul Holmes. Hence the abolition of “Closing the Gaps”, and unleashing the likes of Trevor Mallard to make demeaning public comments about “overlong and boring” Maori ceremonies. Then she contemptuously dismissed the ensuing Maori protests.

        Have you forgotten her foul and dishonest treatment of refugee Ahmed Zaoui?

        And perhaps most disgustingly of all, she sat back and grinned as Michael Cullen, Mallard and her friend Winston Peters casually and cynically defamed Keith Locke in the House.

  17. jackal 17

    I think this is a particularly difficult topic to gain traction on. There’s the unfortunate effect of sower grapes in attacking National over their obvious electioneering a sporting event. It creates a juxtaposition in that such a widely supported event will be predominantly accepted despite the political taint of corruption. That’s why the left has to be careful on this issue; any criticism could be easily utilized against them.

    Hang on a sec, the neighbors nutting off again. :twisted: Now where was I?

    Like yourself lprent, I played rugby and league and was pretty damn good at it, if I do say so myself. However unlike you I enjoy watching a good rugby game. I like to set the bar pretty high on the politics VS sport conundrum, as there are vast benefits to having a sporting nation. There are vast benefits to being principled as well of course.

    What I really don’t enjoy is the huge amounts of commercialisation that has largely overtaken any enjoyable experience available from these sporting events. That’s where I take the bar down again and feel like smacking a few National politicians and media moguls about the head. They have commercialised the RWC for their own purposes effectively making sport play second fiddle to the almighty dollar. National has paid for that whoring with around $500 million taxpayer dollars, removing employment laws, importing cheap labour and generally doing the dirty all over our Natioanl sport.

    The publics going to lap it up… Be sure that you don’t tell them its poison before they start feeling sick.

    • Colonial Viper 17.1

      There’s the unfortunate effect of sower grapes in attacking National over their obvious electioneering a sporting event.

      No real need for the Left to be labelled as “good sports” this election year. Especially when the only families who can go to RWC All Black games in our own country need to be willing and able to spend many hundreds of dollars on tickets alone to do so.

      Ordinary NZ’ers being priced out of eating, living and playing in our own country, why pretend that we like it?

      • jackal 17.1.1

        After reading the comment of PeteG below, I tend to side with your analysis there CV. “The gloves are off.” Perhaps PeteG thinks that a kinder gentler form of fascism is acceptable, or that the some $500 million dollars that taxpayers are stumping up for the RWC is OK! In my book, when you rob the poor to pay for a sporting event for the wealthy, that’s a line in the sand that should not have been crossed. I’m not saying that flower bombing is appropriate in these circumstances, but a good dose of reality in the form of anger might be just what the hobbits need to wake the fuck up!

        • higherstandard 17.1.1.1

          Go for it [name deleted], I look forward to you protesting outside the All Blacks games during the cup………. especially if they lose the game.

          • terryg 17.1.1.1.1

            nice implied threat there.

            last year I went to the AB-vs-dont_gice_a_shit_who game in Hong Kong – my SIL and her husband are mad keen rugby fans. the game was OK, although I cant recall who won.

            Afterwards, however, the behaviour of the drunken hordes of fuckwits (AKA “spectators”) made me truly ashamed to be a kiwi. boorish doesn’t even begin to describe it.

            Having watched that most hilarious video above, I can now posit a hypothesis explaining the aggressive behaviour – its all due to the internalisation of angst over their own repressed homosexuality. this would also nicely explain the rampant, overt homphobia of rugby fans, as evinced by the frequent usage of “faggot” etc. as insults.

            I cant help but wonder how many current or former all blacks have permanent name suppression for violently assaulting their spouses? Its fun to ask that of rugby-heads, but look out for violent responses :)

            wrt the RWC itself – fuck the RWC. I cant not support it as I’m, a taxpayer and we’re coughing up the bulk of the dosh (for no aparent reward), but I do hope NZ gets knocked out in the quarter-finals.

            And I’m still confused as to why the 2nd Mangere bridge was required for the RWC – I can only presume the influx of RWC tourists is expected to include their vehicles as well.

            • higherstandard 17.1.1.1.1.1

              No I’m not threatening [name deleted] – but I admit it would be a laugh to see him get a good kicking and have a cry.

              • The Voice of Reason

                Too late, HS, you should have been here yesterday!

                • higherstandard

                  I did have a titter thanks to yours and Eve’s efforts.

                • J Mex

                  “No real need for the Left to be labelled as “good sports” this election year. Especially when the only families who can go to RWC All Black games in our own country need to be willing and able to spend many hundreds of dollars on tickets alone to do so” – CV

                  That will be a winning strategy for the left – Come out against the Rugby world cup.

                  First, Peter Jackson
                  Second, Rugby World Cup

                  Third? Maybe diss the Memory of Sir Ed Hillary?

                  You need to be in the strategy brains trust mate.

    • PeteG 17.2

      I’m a keen rugby supporter too, and also don’t care for the overdose of commercialism, but unfortunately that’s part of any high profile game these days, in any sport.

      I’m interested in the RWC and I’ll follow it keenly, but I haven’t decided if I will see any games live yet, even though I live not far from the new Dunedin stadium.

      Whether you like rugby or sport or commercialism or not, the RWC (as an event) is very important for New Zealand, financially and image-wise.

      As much as I don’t like the commercialism, I detest the attempted politicising of it. If Labour was still in government I bet they would be pushing it as much as they could – or at least they should. It’s not yet another great RW conspiracy.

      It’s coincidental that it happens to be in the same year as an election. The timing of the election is logical and very much as expected and as it should be. Get over it.

      The RWC won’t defeat Labour. They are making a good job of doing that themselves.

      And I – and I expect many others – will be very very pissed off if the RWC is disrupted and adversely affected by political opportunists. It would be like kicking trying to kick the country in the guts. (Reasonable peaceful non-disruptive protest is ok)

      • lprent 17.2.1

        I haven’t seen Labour politicizing the RWC? I wish that they would.

        As far as I’m concerned the state should not be putting ANY money into most sports (as sports) outside of the school-kid level (which does serve some social purpose). There are a few adult sports that do also perform a useful social need – for instance the ones for surf-guards.

        Most of the sports appear to be there entirely for the entertainment industry. If there are state funds put into them, then they should compete with the rest of the entertainment industries rather than running from separate funds as they are now. The amount of state and local govt money that has been pushed into just the upgrades on Eden Park this last year or so would dwarf almost every other levels of support for any other part of the entertainment industry for decades.

        That is the type of political discussion I’d like to see.

        • higherstandard 17.2.1.1

          “Most of the sports appear to be there entirely for the entertainment industry. If there are state funds put into them, then they should compete with the rest of the entertainment industries rather than running from separate funds as they are now.”

          I agree with you completely Lynn (with the odd exception) but can you imagine the howling you’d get if you replaced ‘sports’ with ‘the arts’ ?

          • lprent 17.2.1.1.1

            I really don’t care that much if it is arts or sport or NZ on-air or film commission or whatever.

            It is the silo’ing of such funds that I object to more because of the evident inequities it causes. The amount of state funds that go into sport (including such things as state gambling) completely dwarf those that go to all other types of entertainment. The amount of money that goes into making frigging game shows and reality TV probably dwarfs what is put into airing any other on-screen programmes.

            You could argue a pretty good case that arts that examine local mores and culture have valid place for funding. For instance historical programs like Belich’s series on the Moari wars have been massively influential on our culture. Ditto for such things as museums and art galleries. But at present the silo’ing means that these things are fighting for part of a very small budget while sport takes the bulk of the entertainment money.

            • higherstandard 17.2.1.1.1.1

              “The amount of money that goes into making frigging game shows and reality TV probably dwarfs what is put into airing any other on-screen programmes.”

              I attempt not to think about such things lest I get testy (.. ….well more testy)

        • PeteG 17.2.1.2

          I haven’t seen Labour politicizing the RWC?

          Neither have I. I’m sure most Labourites aware of the importance of getting some sort of return on a major investment – for the country and for their own efforts on bringing it to NZ, without a huge (Labour) government effort it wouldn’t be happening here.

          It tends to be would be radicals on the fringes who are political opportunists, like Hone’s Mum, and the odd one on the blogs.

  18. Sookie 18

    I’ve never liked rugby and the majority of its meatheaded fanboys, and now my rates are paying for a stupid bloody white elephant of a stadium no one really wants, I REALLY don’t like it. I hope the AB’s lose, simply to deprive Smug Key all the faux feel good buzz. Go the Springboks.

  19. tc 19

    Rugby is perfect foil for the NACT, elitist with little of the ‘trickle down’ to where it’s needed to produce the next meads etc. It’s disconnected from it’s roots and has forgotten what makes a strong league/competition, tribalism.

    European football has strength and depth because it allows teams to rise and fall and they all enjoy strong local connections that see them through. In contrast to the NZRU wrecking the NPC and generally having f’all idea about how professional sport actually works.

    Carter and Mccaw are at the end of their careers in terms of being top AB’s so a 5 year contract stifles the next gen players desperately needed…..richie will be injured more often than not and DAN chokes when it matters most.

    Not selecting overseas players is a joke, Brazil has won 5 world cups because they pick their best players not just brazillian based players. I find there’s many comparisons between the incompetence of the government and the NZRU.

    This RWC is a celebration of a boys club game that isn’t global, easy to watch nor our national game IMO as the brand has been devalued by the chumps in charge and if the AB’s don’t win then they only have themselves to blame for reappointing failure in Henry
    and his yes man culture club.

    We were great when we had onfield leaders…..don’t see any leaders just Henrys yes men. Professionalism levelled the playing field and we haven’t stepped up.

    • Morrissey 19.1

      …if the AB’s don’t win then they only have themselves to blame for reappointing failure in Henry
      and his yes man culture club.

      Errr, you’ve forgotten one extremely important factor that just might have something to do with the All Blacks possibly failing to win. The opposition? You do know they have FRANCE in their pool, don’t you?

      • sean maitland 19.1.1

        Yeah but the top two teams get out of their pool anyway, so its a given that both the AB’s and France will qualify for the next round. I think Tonga will relish the chance to bash up the Frenchies and will keep them on their toes for a while, but will still end up getting well beaten. No-one else in the pool will challenge either team.

        • Morrissey 19.1.1.1

          I agree with you. Bear in mind, though, that in 1999, Tonga actually beat France, on that absurd tour which culminated in the 54-7 thrashing by the All Blacks in the last test ever at Athletic Park.

          Fools like Murray Deaker, Wynne “Sensible” Gray and Martin Devlin all seemed to think that would be how France played when they actually made an effort in the World Cup a few months later…

  20. sean maitland 20

    I’m going to 5 games in Wellington and have category A seats for the final. I love that our country is hosting such a big event, and am sure its going to be an awesome time for a lot of NZers.

    Its fine not liking it and being over the media exposure and hype (even though the hype will only increase from here), but the people having a go at it and criticising the fact that we are even having it just come across as being mean-spirited old farts who can’t enjoy themselves.

    People complaining about ticket prices are off the mark too, as the 5 games in the Wellington pool pack only cost $60 each, which is far less than you would be paying for a normal test match ticket.

    The influx of 80,000 tourists is going to be a massive boost for our economy and couldn’t have come at a better time after the proverbial crap our economy has been going through lately.

    My only major gripe is the douchebag companies (airlines, hotels etc) who have put their prices up, and the douchebags trying to rent out their accomodation for astronomical prices while kicking their tenants out for a few weeks – I hope karma comes back and hits them somehow – maybe in the form of their rental properties being trashed.

    • PeteG 20.1

      I don’t agree with trashing property, not even suggesting it, but I agree with the rest of your post.

      • Samuel Hill 20.1.1

        I think a lot of folks are gonna get a shock as to how few people actually turn up.

        • Colonial Viper 20.1.1.1

          Attending the RWC during a global recession? I dont even think that many australians will turn up – at least not as many as the rosy forecasts. Australians are saving at the moment, not spending.

        • Morrissey 20.1.1.2

          Anti-football guy goes down on knees: “Please Lord, make them stay away from the games. I’ll never lust after Nikki Kaye again, Lord, if only you make the people keep away from the RWC. And Judith Collins too. I won’t lust after her from now on. If only you keep the people away from the games, Lord!.”

          • M 20.1.1.2.1

            Nikki Kaye? All right, but Judith Collins as an object of lust?

            The set of Jude’s mouth should serve as a warning to any potential suitor that is unless he’s planning on buying her some leathers.

            • Morrissey 20.1.1.2.1.1

              Judith Collins as an object of lust?

              Yes of course. She has that Rosa Klebb thing happening.

      • sean maitland 20.1.2

        I don’t really agree with it either – just couldn’t think of other ways karma could come back to such people.

        I don’t believe the way to run a good business is by treating clients badly and/or simply as a source of income. They need to get a good deal in return. Some people don’t have morals and/or consciences I guess.

  21. tc 21

    So we reappoint a coach who’s failed to figure out how to beat France and given the history at this tournamnet between us shouldn’t he have had a game plan specifically to counter them ….sorry I’m still not getting it Morrissey.

    Your logic suggests we’ve got france, give up now…..you pay coaches to overcome this (and there’s 3 of them !) but as I see you’ve already got the excuses lines up…..like the NZRU.

    • Pascal's bookie 21.1

      bwahahaha, not this shit again.

      Watch that game again. It’s not the AB coaches’ fault that we were getting penalised again and again and again and France wasn’t. What that means is that France played a blinder and our on-field leadership couldn’t adapt to what the ref was telling them. But criticising the blessed cantab is something the AB fan cannot do, ergo “Blame Henry!’

      Beyond that, since when does the RWC become the be all and end all of judging performance. Union is not soccor. It doesn’t have ‘friendlies’. Which is what happens if you think that winning the rwc is the only thing that counts.

      The RWC doesn’t determine who is the best. Look at the format. It’s clearly not designed to find the ‘best team’. It’s a carnival, enjoy it. If you want to judge a coach, look at their overall win/loss records. Do that, and tell me how henry stacks up.

    • Morrissey 21.2

      So we reappoint a coach who’s failed to figure out how to beat France and given the history at this tournament between us shouldn’t he have had a game plan specifically to counter them ….sorry I’m still not getting it Morrissey.

      Are you seriously trying to suggest that Henry, one of the the most technically brilliant, diligent and well organised coaches ever, didn’t have a game plan for the quarter-final? Where did you get THAT piece of intelligence from?

      Your logic suggests we’ve got france, give up now…..
      That is not what I said at all. What I said was: we’ve got France, and they should be respected. The players and coaches do, of course; the problem is with uninformed boosters posing as rugby journalists.

      you pay coaches to overcome this (and there’s 3 of them !) but as I see you’ve already got the excuses lines up…..like the NZRU.
      What an absurd statement. You’ve completely misconstrued what I wrote.

  22. tc 22

    That’d be the onfield leadership that still gets Henry’s backing as the right bloke for the job and a fat new NZRU contract.

    A real onfield leader like say mourie all those years ago being a classic with haden’s lineout dive, would as you say adjust to the ref’s performance so how do our chances look with that same structure in place from 2007.

    Agree about the format and it being a carnival to enjoy but if you stick with henry, who sticks with Mccaw then as you say it doesn’t matter as the winner’s not the best based on the format so who really cares….lets sit back and enjoy the plastic waka.

    • Pascal's bookie 22.1

      I guess my main point is that the wrc is a really hard tournament to win, and you need luck. From that. I think it is pretty funny that lots of people seem to think that winning a WRC is what we should judge a coach or a team on, rather than their record over time.

      Let’s look at Graham Mourie, rightly regarded as a top AB captain.

      http://www.sporting-heroes.net/rugby-heroes/displayhero.asp?HeroID=7010

      His performances earned him the captaincy for the tour of France later in the year, and that drawn two test series would be the first of six encounters against the Cockerels….

      ….In partnership with legendary coach Jack Gleeson, Graham orchestrated victories over all four home nations, and was named player of the tour. In 1979 the French arrived in New Zealand and were able to draw the series 1-1 with Graham blaming the second test loss on lineout problems. That game saw Mourie score the first of four test tries when he capitalised on good work by Murray Taylor near the end of the game. However, the season ended rather disappointingly when he captained the All Blacks to a 12-6 defeat in Sydney, their first loss on Australian soil for thirty years.

      Nowadays that would be considered a failure. A drawn series against france in france, and another in NZ, and a loss to the then awful aussies in Sydney.

      • sean maitland 22.1.1

        Clearly tc never actually watched Mourie play and is just pulling stuff out of a hat without thinking people might know better.

        One needs to look no further than what Clive Woodward achieved with England over two World Cups to see what investment in a coach can achieve. They have only ever beaten the AB’s in NZ twice in the history of the game and they managed it once during that purple patch.

        • Morrissey 22.1.1.1

          One needs to look no further than what Clive Woodward achieved with England over two World Cups to see what investment in a coach can achieve.

          Sean, you should take care to not over-praise Woodward. The strength of that England team was due to the leadership on the field of a small group of exceptional players—Johnson above all, and his inspiring lieutenants Dallaglio, Back, and Wilkinson. As we saw only too clearly on the Lions tour in 2005, Woodward was neither tactically astute nor particularly good at man-management.

  23. Craig 23

    Me, I only watch rugby if the Crusaders are playing (it’s genetic- I’m from ChCh originally). I’m more into Super 15 than AB stuff. And while I hate to be disloyal, what if we end up losing the forthcoming RWC, again…??? Oooh. No economic spin- oops, sorry, I meant spin *off* (although, come to think of it…) for N/ACT. Hmmmm…

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    . . Further to National Party  blogger, pollster, and political apparatchik making this  public post on Facebook; . . To quote in cut-and-pastable text; “For reasons I’ll make clear tomorrow, but should not be hard to guess, I need to...
    Frankly Speaking | 20-08
  • When Stupid meets Hypocrisy, the result is David Farrar – *Update*
    . . Further to National Party  blogger, pollster, and political apparatchik making this  public post on Facebook; . . To quote in cut-and-pastable text; “For reasons I’ll make clear tomorrow, but should not be hard to guess, I need to...
    Frankly Speaking | 20-08
  • The terrifying genius of the Islamic State
    The horrific beheading of American journalist James Foley, at the hands of a so-called Islamic State (IS) militant with a British accent, has caused an earthquake on the mainstream and social media platforms.It was at once a video of a...
    Pundit | 20-08
  • Proof
    Here's a tweet from Felix Marwick this morning: What the PM said about his knowledge of Slater's SIS OIA http://t.co/u8AmXeX7jy What the SIS told me in 2011 pic.twitter.com/tPNvehTzJ0 — Felix Marwick (@felixmarwick) August 20, 2014 This is very serious. To...
    Polity | 20-08
  • Key’s ducking for cover – utterly unbelievable!!!
    .   . I don’t often re-print media stories verbatim – but this piece by Andrea Vance, for Fairfax Media,  deserves wider circulation. Please note the highlighted statements by Dear Leader as he ducks, weaves, obfuscates, and deflects any and...
    Frankly Speaking | 20-08
  • Key’s ducking for cover – utterly unbelievable!!!
    .   . I don’t often re-print media stories verbatim – but this piece by Andrea Vance, for Fairfax Media,  deserves wider circulation. Please note the highlighted statements by Dear Leader as he ducks, weaves, obfuscates, and deflects any and...
    Frankly Speaking | 20-08
  • Long Term Plan and Transport
    Yesterday I looked at the numbers behind council’s Long Term Plan, the first version of which is being worked on by the mayor for release next Thursday. As well as the all the numbers regarding the potential funding gap, there...
    Transport Blog | 20-08
  • Dirty Politics: One News Colmar-Brunton Snap Poll
     One News Colmar-Brunton         Snap Poll on Dirty Politics                   509 Respondents                            August 14-15                                                      Q 1:  "Have you heard of...
    Sub zero politics | 20-08
  • Climate Change Impacts in Labrador
    In 1534, famed explorer Jacques Cartier described Labrador as "the land God gave to Cain". This comparison is inevitably linked to Labrador’s rugged coastal landscapes dotted with deep inlets, fiords and rugged tundra. Culturally the region is steeped in complexity...
    Skeptical Science | 20-08
  • Council Amalgamations Still Bad Deal
    Press Release – Democrats for Social Credit Northland, Bay of Plenty, and Wellington ratepayers should not be seduced into accepting the amalgamation of their Councils by a recent amendment to legislation allowing for local boards not community boards, Chris Leitch,...
    Its our future | 20-08
  • Gordon Campbell on the usual round of mud slinging and name-calling
    The media, as its critics regularly point out, is far too easily diverted by political sideshows and slanging matches, from its duty to cover the real issues. Yet this week gave an interesting example of how hard it is to...
    Gordon Campbell | 20-08
  • Dirty Politics: Free speech & a policy-free election
    A couple of weeks ago I said that every election has its surprises. But I certainly didn't see Nicky Hager coming down the track, book in hand. Perhaps I should have, since both my 2002 and 2005 examples involved him.read...
    Pundit | 20-08
  • Happy to be left holding the baby – as the battle for Ōhariu heats up
    John and Tricia Andersen spent decades serving communities across New Zealand by choosing to teach in low decile schools, often in remote areas, including principal and deputy principal roles. Now they are working to improve opportunities for New Zealand’s children...
    Labour campaign | 20-08
  • Boys on film – Nohorua Parata
    Meka Whaitiri recently told Labour Voices “I am a Māori MP, for a Māori electorate. I see life through a Māori lens.” Sons Nohorua, 17, and Wi Rangi, 16, have been looking through a different lens – making campaign videos for their mother. Here...
    Labour campaign | 20-08
  • We’ve launched the campaign. The hoardings are up.
    We've launched the campaign. The hoardings are up. Our TV ads are running. But what this campaign needs now is YOU. It's people on the ground that'll make the crucial difference. ...
    Labour campaign | 20-08
  • SIS OIA turnaround times
    One of the central allegations in Nicky Hager's Dirty Politics is that Cameron Slater received favourable treatment in the handling of an OIA request to the SIS. That allegation is now the subject of an investigation by the Inspector-General of...
    No Right Turn | 20-08
  • Letter to the Editor: National’s blighted future?
    . . from:      Frank Macskasy to:           Dominion Post <letters@dompost.co.nz> date:       Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 5:07 PM subject: letter to the editor . The editor Dominion Post . On the issue of National Party dirty politics… Once National...
    Frankly Speaking | 20-08
  • Letter to the Editor: National’s blighted future?
    . . from:      Frank Macskasy to:           Dominion Post <letters@dompost.co.nz> date:       Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 5:07 PM subject: letter to the editor . The editor Dominion Post . On the issue of National Party dirty politics… Once National...
    Frankly Speaking | 20-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Public servants behaving with more integrity than their masters
    The State Services Commission's new report on the integrity of our state services reflects the yawning gap between the behaviour of public servants and that of their political masters, Labour's State Services spokesperson Maryan Street says. “This report, which surveyed...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Phil Twyford Speech to NZCID
    "Labour's plan to build more and build better: how new approaches to housing, transport and urban development will deliver cities that work" Phil Twyford, Labour Party spokesperson on housing, transport, Auckland issues, and cities.  ...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Labour commits to independent Foreign Affairs and Trade
    “Labour is committed to New Zealand’s Foreign Affairs and Trade policy being independent and proactive, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer says. “We are a small but respected country. Our voice and actions count in international affairs. Labour will take a...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Key must sack Collins over abhorrent actions
    The latest revelations that Judith Collins sent the contact details of a public servant to WhaleOil in a desperate attempt to divert media attention from a bad story is abhorrent, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key and Judith Collins...
    Labour | 19-08
  • It’s downhill from here under National
    The forecast drop in exports and predicted halving of growth shows that it’s downhill from here with National, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Growth under this Government peaked in June and halves to two per cent in coming years....
    Labour | 19-08
  • John Key loses moral compass over Collins
    John Key has lost his moral compass over Judith Collins’ involvement with Cameron Slater and lost touch with New Zealanders’ sense of right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Whoever is Prime Minister there are expectations they will not...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Mana Movement General Election 2014 List confirmed
    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time for John Key to answer yes or no questions
    John Key’s train-wreck interview on Morning Report shows he is no longer capable of a simple yes or no answer and has lost touch with what’s right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key has become so media...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Key must clarify who signed out SIS OIA
    Yet again John Key is proving incapable of answering a simple question on an extremely important issue – this time who signed off Cameron Slater’s fast-tracked SIS OIA request on Phil Goff, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “John Key’s claim...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time to invest in our tertiary education system
    A Labour Government will fully review the student support system – including allowances, loans, accommodation support and scholarships – with a view to increasing access and making the system fair, transparent and sustainable, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says....
    Labour | 17-08
  • Labour will facilitate regional Māori economic development agencies
    The next Labour Government will facilitate the creation of regional Māori economic development groups lead by iwi and hapū to work in partnership with business and public agencies as part of its Māori Development policy. “Labour is committed to working towards...
    Labour | 16-08
  • PRIME MINISTER’S DENIAL AT ODDS WITH NATIONAL PARTY STATEMENT
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has today released an email from the General Manager of the National Party that directly contradicts recent statements from the Prime Minister in relation to the 2011 breaches of Labour Party website databases. In his stand-up...
    Labour | 16-08
  • Labour committed to a healthier NZ for all
    A Labour Government will shift the focus of the health system from narrow targets and short term thinking to make public health and prevention a priority, Labour’s health spokesperson Annette King says. Releasing Labour’s full Health policy today she said...
    Labour | 15-08
  • Time Key took responsibility for Collins
    It is well past time for John Key to take some responsibility for the misuse of power and information by his Minister Judith Collins, and follow through on his last warning to her, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “The evidence released...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Dear John, time to answer a few questions… – Harawira
    “When Cameron Slater says about Kim Dotcom ‘I have lots on him…death by a thousand cuts…wait till you see what comes out in coming weeks on that fat c***t’, you have to ask whether this is the same Cameron Slater...
    Mana | 14-08
  • MANA CANDIDATE FOR IKAROA RAWHITI OPENS UP ABOUT SUICIDE
    “This week suicide has claimed yet more lives in whanau and communities in Ikaroa Rawhiti, and my heart goes out to those who are dealing with such a tragic loss”, says MANA candidate for Te Ikaroa Rawhiti, Te Hamua Nikora....
    Mana | 14-08
  • Offshore betting in Labour’s sights
    A Labour Government will clamp down on offshore gambling websites that deprive the local racing industry of funds, Labour’s Racing spokesperson Ross Robertson says. Releasing Labour’s racing policy today, he said betting on offshore websites is a major threat to...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Key has serious questions to answer on Dirty Politics
    John Key must answer the serious questions raised in Nicky Hager’s new book which reveal examples of dirty politics that New Zealanders will be deeply concerned about, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Many people will be disturbed by the evidence...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Creating an inclusive society for disabled people
    A Labour Government will provide free annual health checks for people with an intellectual disability, Labour’s Disability Issues spokesperson Ruth Dyson said today in announcing Labour’s Disability Issues policy. “We will also employ another 100 additional special education teachers and...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Media Advisory – MANA name change
    This is to advise all media that on the 24th of July the ‘Mana’ party name was officially changed to ‘MANA Movement’ under the Electoral Act 1993.  The inclusion of the word ‘Movement’ in our name shouldn’t come as a surprise...
    Mana | 13-08
  • New Zealand must help in the growing Iraq crisis
    The humanitarian crisis in Iraq looks certain to get worse before it gets better,” said David Shearer Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson. “New Zealand should urgently pledge increased humanitarian assistance to United Nations agencies and NGOs present on the ground....
    Labour | 13-08
  • Allegations of migrant worker rort should be investigated
    Labour is calling for an investigation into the alleged exploitation of workers at Hutt Railway workshops, hired to repair asbestos-riddled DL locomotives. Hutt South Labour MP Trevor Mallard has written to the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment asking that...
    Labour | 13-08
  • Medical and dentistry students get reprieve under Labour
    A Labour Government will restore the right of medical and dentistry students to get student loans after seven years of study because it is the right thing to do, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says. “Hard on the heels...
    Labour | 13-08
  • National must stop meddling with ACC before the election
    The redesign currently occurring at the Accident Claims Corporation (ACC) for sensitive claims needs to be put on hold immediately, said the Green Party today.The Green Party is concerned about work currently underway at ACC involving the sensitive claims service...
    Greens | 13-08
  • Markets slow but first home buyers still hurting
    First home buyers are hurting more than ever as the supply of affordable houses in the market dries up, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “The Reserve Bank will be happy LVR minimum deposits and rising interest rates have dampened...
    Labour | 13-08
  • Green Party celebrates MOU win on contaminated sites
    The Green Party is celebrating the announcement of a national register of contaminated sites today, and $2.5 million to start cleaning two sites up. The Green Party and the National Party agreed to include toxic site management work in their...
    Greens | 13-08
  • Emergency staff at breaking point
    The Southern DHB is so cash-strapped it is failing to fill nursing rosters, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson David Clark says.  “Every day emergency department nurses arrive at work knowing they are likely to be carrying more than their recommended workload. ...
    Labour | 12-08
  • ACC minister fails in mission to change culture
    The latest damning report by the Auditor General shows that the ACC Minister has failed to fulfil her mission to fix the sick culture at ACC and real change will not come till a new Government is elected, the Green...
    Greens | 12-08
  • Labour’s regional development fund to support Palmerston North
    Labour will consider a proposal to develop an inland port at Palmerston North, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The Palmerston North community has developed plans for an inland port which will bring jobs and economic growth to a region which...
    Labour | 12-08
  • Green Party announces priorities for Christchurch
    The Green Party has today announced its plan for a fairer, smarter and more democratic Canterbury rebuild, with a focus on smart transport solutions, restoring local democracy, and keeping Christchurch's assets.The plan sits across all of the Green Party's priorities...
    Greens | 11-08
  • Rock-star economy unplugged by China log jam
    The collapse of log prices due to oversupply in China threatens to wash the gloss off what remains of National's so-called rock-star economy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “Already this year the price of milk solids has plunged by more...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Young job seekers dealt a poor hand
    National's "keep 'em poor" card for young people on a benefit is a sorry substitute for job training, Labour’s Social Development spokesperson Sue Moroney says.  The Government today announced it would extend its payment card scheme to all teen parents...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Labour – achieving change for Kiwi women
    Working towards being a world leader in eliminating violence against women and children will be a priority for a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Women’s Affairs policy today spokesperson Carol Beaumont said while Labour had a proud track record of achieving...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Accessible healthcare also affordable
      It is obvious from Tony Ryall’s hasty attack of Labour’s plans to extend free GP visits to older people that he hasn’t bothered to actually read the policy, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says. "Mr Ryall’s response to Labour’s...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Full details of oil execs’ junket revealed
    Full details of a $237,000 taxpayer-funded oil executives' junket in 2011 have emerged.National paid the nearly quarter of a million dollars to wine and dine 11 oil executives in New Zealand during the World Cup.The trip included yachting, wine tasting,...
    Greens | 10-08
  • Nats sold 500 rugby fields of land a day offshore
    Under National over one million hectares of land has been approved for overseas sale – 16 times the size of Lake Taupō or the equivalent of five hundred rugby fields a day, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “According to...
    Labour | 10-08
  • Joyce’s dodgy sums fool no-one
    Steven Joyce's attempt to attack Labour's positive plan for affordable healthcare will fool no-one. "We knew that National would try to say that we can't afford free GP visits and prescriptions for the New Zealanders who need it. But, as...
    Labour | 10-08
  • Campaign Launch – Ready to Win
    Today I launched Labour's election campaign at the Viaduct Events Centre, Auckland. Here is the speech I gave....
    Labour | 10-08
  • Labour extends free GP visits, free prescriptions
    Nearly 40 per cent of Kiwis – or 1.7 million people – will be eligible for free doctors’ visits and free prescriptions under a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Last year more than half a million New Zealanders...
    Labour | 10-08
  • Labour promises a fairer ACC for all Kiwis
    Accident compensation for loss of potential earnings will rise under a Labour Government, while people not earning at the time of their accident will also be eligible for compensation, Labour’s ACC spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. Releasing Labour’s ACC policy today...
    Labour | 08-08
  • NZ Govt must push for fair play in Fiji elections
    The New Zealand Government needs to do more to push for human rights and media freedom in Fiji as it stages its first election since the 2006 coup, the Green Party said today.Amnesty International has released a report which documents...
    Greens | 07-08
  • Simply Not Credible: Dr Tucker’s “clarifications” are only making thi...
    THAT DR WARREN TUCKER, Director of the Security Intelligence Service in 2011, agreed to the release of politically sensitive material – thereby intervening in an on-going contretemps between the leaders of the National and Labour parties – without receiving the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: Evidence of Collusion between the NZ Herald and Imm...
    . 1. Prologue . The Donghua Liu Affair hit  the headlines on 18 June, with allegations that David Cunliffe wrote a letter in 2003,  on  behalf of  business migrant, Donghua Liu. Four days later, on Sunday 22 June, the Herald...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Dear Canon NZ – Malevolence should induce revulsion, it shouldn’t be ce...
    Giovanni Tiso’s analysis on Slater is possibly the best in NZ… It’s been a good week for some of us. A week of feeling vindicated, offeeling galvanised. Where it goes from here will depend on several factors, some of which are largely...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • 5AA Australia: After Dirty Politics Can National Provide Stable Government?
    AS WE ALL KNOW New Zealanders and Australians do not like political parties that are unstable, or can no longer assure us that they are able to provide stable government. And the big question for Kiwis as we prepare to...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • SIS letter means it’s over for Key
    It’s over. I may not agree with all of Phil Goff’s positions, but you can’t question his integrity the way Slater did in Dirty Politics and not be deeply concerned that our Secret Intelligence Agency is being used for political...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • who to vote for in Epsom
    who to vote for in Epsom...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • The Rise and Fall of John Key – who will be the next leader of National P...
    . . It was all set to go: Teamkey would be the cult of personality that would do Stalin, Mao, Reagan, Thatcher, or any of the Nth Korean Kim Dynasty, proud.  National and it’s “Teamkey” propaganda strategy   would cash-in Big Time...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Who said Kiwis couldn’t get a fire in their bellies over an arcane intern...
    An amazing team of activists has taken the campaign on the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) to local governments throughout the country. Their latest triumph came last Monday when the Dunedin City Council endorsed a resolution expressing concern about the TPPA...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • National’s Dangerous Education Agenda Exposed
    Putting aside the dirty politics coming out of the Beehive and the right-wing blogisphere, there are some very strong signals that another term of a National Government would do even more serious damage to the public education system. The Education...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • We can have clean politics and get our democracy back.
    Something is rotten in our politics and it stinks. Dirty politics has sadly become one of the defining features of this election campaign. In the light of recent revelations about the extent of nasty and disingenuous political strategies, it would...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Book burning copies of Hager’s book? The next generation of National Part...
    It seems we are getting the next generation of National Party Dirty Politics now. There are claims the Young Nats in Hamilton are buying up copies of Dirty Politics and burning them. One witness was contacted by the Waikato Times...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • National Party Poetry Day Haiku
    Key’s inbox and Cam’s poison most foul, there he blows hoist by own harpoon...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Why Cunliffe will be the next PM
    David Cunliffe will be the next Prime Minister of NZ. Labour’s inclusive and positive TV adverts… …are in stark contrast to National’s team of white people powering away from the rabble of the ‘others’… …the messaging is vital and crucial...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • From smiling assassin to grumpy butcher – on giving Judith Collins a last...
    After #dirtypolitics Key isn’t the smiling assassin, he is the grumpy butcher. When he said Judith had  a ‘last chance’ he meant 1 second after voting closes on 20th September. Key would love nothing more than to cut Collins loose and end...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • If the National Party rowing advert was real….
    If the National Party rowing advert was real there would be more blood in the water. If the National Party rowing advert was real it would be Cameron Slater calling the strokes. If the national Party rowing advert was real,...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Cameron Slater: Zionist and political pundit
    It is hard to know where to start with right-wing blogger Cameron Slater (Whale Oil), especially after the release of Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics. This confirmed everything many of us thought Slater to be: a snivelling pundit who serves...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Bryce Edwards stood down from Herald for election season??? Are the editors...
    I only found this out via twitter last night and I am still in shock. Bryce Edwards, easily the best critical thinker and news analyst the NZ Herald has has been stood down by the NZ Herald ‘for the election...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • So who’s a “conspiracy theorist” now?!
    . . As the media storm over Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“,  and allegations over smear campaigns continue to swirl,  National’s spin doctors have given Key, Collins, and other National Party ministers a string of  phrases to use in all...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Momentum shift
    When you are deeply immersed in a local campaign sometimes it can be difficult to see the helicopter view.   I don’t know how accurate the political polls are and have always known that things can change quickly in politics...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Dear Toby Manhire. Bad call on backing Farrar
    Oh dear. I say this as someone who regards Toby Manhire as one of the smartest journalists/commentators/columnists this country has, and I think Toby has made a terribly dumb call here. Let’s see if Toby is still singing Farrar’s praises...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Radio NZ apologise to me for getting it wrong
    Radio NZ have contacted me, reviewed the claim by their host that I had an advance copy of Nicky Hager’s book and they have concluded they got it wrong, they have called me and apologised and will make a statement...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Reclaim UoA – Students’ Message to Steven Joyce
    Tertiary Education – we’ve been sold a lemon  A group of 30 students attended an event on Tuesday evening about ‘the future of tertiary education’ at which the Minister of Tertiary Education Steven Joyce was slated to speak. As Joyce...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Can someone in the media please ask the PM of NZ to categorically deny any ...
    Now we see the MO of Slater & Co, the setting up, the digging for dirt, the use of staff to dig that dirt, can the Prime Minister of NZ categorically deny any National Party staff worked with Cam Slater...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Panic setting in for National as they realise what’s about to happen
    And the terror starts to set in. I’ve never seen blind panic like this before  and it’s spreading as the enormity of what’s about to happen starts to sink in. Hager’s book is a mere entree, Nicky’s personal ethics wouldn’t...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics: what the book ultimately reveals is abuse of powe...
    Guide to the many faces of John Key Nicky’s book is now doing what I suspected it would do, create a shockwave of revulsion. Andrew Geddis over at Pundit Blog sums up this attitude best, and it’s reverberations build with every...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Fancy taking children seriously
    Let’s see why all political parties should pay close attention to the Green Party’s policy for children. First, it is a comprehensive attempt to put children, not ideology, at the heart of family policy. Wow, children at the heart of...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Amnesty International: Dear Azerbaijan, Stop Torture, Love Kiwi Kids
    This is a world where many adults often underestimate Generation Y. Being only a few years out of being a teenager myself, I feel I can make this statement with certainty. However, I have been the Youth Intern at Amnesty...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • GCSB meetings today in Christchurch 1pm at Uni 7pm at Cathedral
    The 2014 GCSB meetings to discuss the mass surveillance state legislation passed by this Government will be debated in Christchurch today at two different meetings. 1pm at Canterbury University bottom floor James Height Building: Chair: Bomber Bradbury Ruth Dyson – Labour Party...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Things that 7 Sharp should probably be talking about
    Things that 7 Sharp should probably be talking about...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Guide to when Key is lying
    Guide to when Key is lying...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – The State of the Student Nation …or is just Al...
    Students politics are dead and our student media is in terminal decline. The most disappointing thing about university is the politics, or should I say lack of? I was raised with the idea that students held the power.They were the...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Love Lifts Us Up: Thoughts from the Green Party’s campaign launch.
    Author Eleanor Catton wants people to give their party vote to the Greens.Photo by Peter Meecham NO ONE WAS QUITE SURE how he did it. Somehow Bob Harvey had persuaded the owners of the rights to Joe Cocker’s Up Where...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Test Stream
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    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • LIVE STREAM: You, Me and the GCSB ChCh Public Meetings
    LIVE STREAM EVENT here at 1pm & 7pm: The 2014 GCSB meetings to discuss the mass surveillance state legislation passed by this Government will be debated in Christchurch today at two different meetings. PLEASE NOTE: TDB recommends Chrome and Firefox...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today,
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • How @whaledump might destroy the popular vote for National
    Dirty Politics is now creating a meltdown and National are in danger of a total vote collapse. The real threat to for National was if Nicky had all the emails released via the anonymous hacker who took them. That danger is now a...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Open letter to Radio NZ – you need to make a retraction now
    I have just sent this off to Radio NZ right now Dear Radio NZ Firstly, what a great interview by Guyon Espiner this morning with the Prime Minister. Great to see such hard hitting journalism. Unfortunately I am not contacting...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Radio NZ are lying about me
    I am getting this all second hand at the moment as I don’t bother listening to Radio NZ (except for that wonderful Wallace Chapman in the weekends) but there is a claim that Suzie Ferguson just insinuated on Radio NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Farrar’s fake claim of being invaded + Slater’s claims of death threats...
    The counter spin to avoid focus on the series allegations made in Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics continues. David Farrar’s ridiculous hysterics that he was invaded and his privacy has been blah blah blah has all been reduced from computer hacking to...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • A shout out to the unsung heroes – our Public Service staff
    Government departments, particularly in the social welfare, education and health areas get a lot of shtick. And it’s not unjustified. We have problems in the way that our government departments treat those in need. And I do not intend to...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Key’s ducking for cover – utterly unbelievable!!!
    .   . I don’t often re-print media stories verbatim – but this piece by Andrea Vance, for Fairfax Media,  deserves wider circulation. Please note the highlighted statements by Dear Leader as he ducks, weaves, obfuscates, and deflects any and...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Who is the source of Hager’s emails?
    Who is the source of Hager’s emails? Kim Dotcom has categorically denied he has anything to do with this and Nicky Hager has categorically denied that Kim was the source of the emails. Whatever you think about Kim (and he...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Dirty Politics – Audio+Text Why It Is Essential Raw Data Be Released Imme...
    MIL OSI – Source: RadioLive – Sunday Panel Analysis Headline: Dirty Politics – Audio Analysis by Selwyn Manning + Rodney Hide + Mark Sainsbury MIL Video: Selwyn Manning, Rodney Hide, and Mark Sainsbury discuss and debate the explosive details revealed...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • TV One and TV3 Political Polls – not such a landslide now
    Before the impact of Dirty Politics has been felt, the National Party high point in the Polls had been reached and their inevitable  drop begins. Despite the mainstream media telling NZers for almost 3 years that John Key would win...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – You will not believe Key’s defence of hackin...
    He actually used a sporting analogy. Can you believe it? John Key, asked on the fact that his staff had entered into a Labour Party computer and downloaded their database, Key replied, “It’s a bit like the Wallabies positing up their...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • A brief word on 100 Top political Tweeters
    The NZ Herald has put together a very useful list of top 100 political twtter accounts, what is most interesting from the lists is that the right wing all work hand in glove with each other where as the Left...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Are Whaleoil’s traffic stats a bloated illusion?
    Dim Post has done a critical analysis of just how real Cameron Slater’s traffic stats are. TDB has only been around for a year with a fragment of the digital footprint of the older blogs, yet we have managed to become...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Is Jordan Williams deceptive enough to blackma...
    There are so many issues raised by Nicky Hager’s book, that any one of them would be worthy of total focus on. Let’s chat about the claim in the book that Jordan Williams bragged to Slater and Lusk that he had...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Why ‘see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evi...
    This sign shows how National’s see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil denial isn’t working. National’s response to the book is that there is NOTHING in there that deserves anything more than the most briefest of eye motions. Key won’t...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • “Dirty Politics” and The Teflon Man
    . L-R- David Farrar, John Key, Cameron Slater . The release of Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Secrets” has unleashed more of a political firestorm than many had anticipated. (Or, perhaps some did.) The glare of publicity has been shone like...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Commissioner of Police v Kim Dotcom And Ors
    An order is made extending the duration of the registration of the restraining orders issued by the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia on 10 and 25 January 2012 and registered in New Zealand on 18...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Labour Announcement on Future of Hillside Workshops Welcome
    Labour leader David Cunliffe’s announcement in Dunedin today that a government led by his party would re-open Hillside Railway workshops was welcomed by the Rail and Maritime Transport Union (RMTU). ‘Since the workshops were shut down in late...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Primary teachers and principals vote to put kids first
    Teachers and principals have voted overwhelmingly against the Government’s controversial “Investing in Educational Success” policy, including proposed highly-paid principal and teacher roles....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Prime Time with Sean Plunkett: Educating for Success
    In all the turmoil stirred up by the "Dirty Politics" revelations, the real issues that the campaign should be about have been put to one side....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Dirty Politics – Number One Bestseller and Back in Stores
    An exposé of the hidden side of New Zealand politics, Nicky Hager's book, Dirty Politics , has been in hot demand since its release last Wednesday....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Epsom: profiling NZ’s most controversial electorate
    Welcome to the wealthy inner Auckland electorate of Epsom: home of coat-tailing, the Tea Tapes, a convicted outgoing MP... and heavy newspaper and magazine readership....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Families Free From Violence campaign and website
    We are pleased to announce the launch of our Families Free From Violence campaign and our new Families Free From Violence website. This website has been created to encourage people to take responsibility for ending family violence by seeking help...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • PSA And DHBs Reach Settlement on Five Collective Agreements
    The 20 District Health Boards are pleased to reach settlement via mediation on five Multi Employer Collective Agreements (MECAs) with the Public Service Association for 12,000 mental and public health nurses, allied, public health and technical staff,...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Refusal to complete census results in 46 convictions
    Failing to fill out a census form has resulted in the convictions of 46 people, Statistics New Zealand said today....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Council Amalgamations Still Bad Deal
    Northland, Bay of Plenty, and Wellington ratepayers should not be seduced into accepting the amalgamation of their Councils by a recent amendment to legislation allowing for local boards not community boards, Chris Leitch, Democrats for Social Credit...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • DHB industrial action withdrawn
    The Public Service Association (PSA) has withdrawn notices of industrial action covering 12,000 health workers at District Health Boards (DHBs) across New Zealand, after progress was made in mediation....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Aged Care Pledge Needs Better Target, Says Care Agency
    Labour’s pledge to set up an aged care working group to address industry concerns is good to see, but appears to skirt the obvious issue of a looming lack of beds and carers for our rapidly growing elderly population, says...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Social inequality still rife in New Zealand
    Social inequality has worsened over the past decade in New Zealand, a new study from Victoria University of Wellington shows....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Working towards a living wage and more Māori in paid work
    The Māori Party will build on the gains it has already achieved in Government and accelerate job opportunities particularly for young Māori....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Deepwater Group Supports Changes to Catch Limits
    The Deepwater Group says the increase in the Total Allowable Commercial Catch for hoki shows the benefits of a long term commitment to build biomass in this major New Zealand fishery....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • ACT announces Ohariu candidate Sean Fitzpatrick
    “Our Ohariu candidate will be Sean Fitzpatrick. Sean has strong ties to the region and I’m glad to hear he will be doing his best to grow ACT’s party vote in the area,” says Dr Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • ACT announces Tauranga candidate Stuart Pederson
    “Our Tauranga candidate will be Stuart Pedersen. Stuart has strong ties to Tauranga and I’m glad he has agreed to do his best to grow ACT’s party vote in the electorate,” says Dr Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Green Party scores massive own goal
    Green Party scores massive own goal as their own policy auditor criticises their fiscal plan...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Green Party’s own Auditor of their Budget finds it dodgy
    “The Alternative Budget released by the Green's does not even stack up in the eyes of their chosen auditor – Infometrics” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • New shark finning laws fall short for threatened species
    Environmental groups are welcoming some aspects of a raft of law changes announced today in relation to shark finning, but say that overall the chance for New Zealand to catch up with international efforts in shark conservation is being missed....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Promoting Labour’s Positive Policies
    General Secretary of the New Zealand Labour Party, Tim Barnett, today launched Labour’s television advertisements for the 2014 election. The advertisements help tell Labour’s positive story for a better New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Drug Court: Rare Insight into New Alternative Justice Model
    Māori Television’s latest New Zealand documentary presents a fascinating look inside a new alternative justice model – through the stories of convicted criminals....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Political parties pledge to increase overseas aid
    A survey of political parties looking at how much New Zealand should spend on Official Development Assistance (ODA) shows the overwhelming majority of parties are committed to raising the bar according to the Council for International Development (CID)....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Top Kiwis backing Tip the Scales campaign
    Sir Graham Henry, former All Black Kees Meeuws, singer-song writer Jamie McDell and fishing guru Matt Watson have pledged their support to Tip the Scales, a pre-election campaign generating public support for rebuilding New Zealand’s depleted inshore...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Maritime Union continues to press over dirty politics
    Maritime Union National President Garry Parsloe says Ports of Auckland management is trying to get off the hook from its involvement with extreme right wing bloggers during the Ports of Auckland dispute....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • No end in sight to overwhelming human cost of conflict
    Two ceasefires have brought some respite to civilians in Gaza and southern Israel, amid hope that a durable cessation of hostilities might occur. In Gaza, these breaks in the fighting have barely given people enough time to seek medical care,...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Young Kiwi speakers to represent NZ at Gallipoli 2015
    The RSA is delighted at the announcement made by Veterans' Affairs Minister Michael Woodhouse today, that all eight regional finalists of the 2015 ANZ RSA Cyril Bassett VC Speech Competition will be included in a group of 25 Youth Ambassadors...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • “Bromance” Marriage Stunt Insulting Says LegaliseLove
    A promotional competition asking two best mates to get married in order to win an all-expenses-paid trip to the 2015 Rugby World Cup is insulting, marriage equality campaign LegaliseLove Aotearoa claims....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Cannabis Party first to register for 2014 General Election
    The Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party became the first party to register for the 2014 General Election today, when it meet with the Electoral Commission in Wellington at Midday....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • PGA: Addresses NZ’s ratification of Arms Trade Treaty
    President of Parliamentarians for Global Action and New Zealand MP Ross Robertson today addressed a celebration to mark New Zealand’s imminent ratification of the Arms Trade Treaty (ATT), which is expected within the next few weeks....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Roy Morgan Poll August 20
    National (48%) holds its lead over Labour/ Greens (39%) as ‘Dirty Politics’ revelations provide a new challenge for PM John Key’s leadership. NZ First surge to 6.5% - highest support since September 2013....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • IGIS inquiry into release of NZSIS information
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security (IGIS), Cheryl Gwyn, announced today that she would be instituting an inquiry concerning allegations that the New Zealand Security Intelligence Service (NZSIS) might have released official information...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Glen Scanlon to Head Digital Media at Radio New Zealand
    Radio New Zealand has announced the appointment of Glen Scanlon to the recently created position of head of digital media....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Israel’s Gaza ceasefire violations go unreported
    It seems that it is only ceasefire violations that emanate from the Palestinian side that ever get publicised....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Drug courier sentenced for importing heroin
    South African drug courier, Laura Elizabeth Cilliers, was sentenced today in the Christchurch District Court to 7 years and 10 months in prison for importing approximately 1.2 kilograms of heroin....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Residential Property Speculators Days Numbered
    Rent heat cools as homes are replaced ... Liz McDonald ... The Press http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/your-property/10400851/Rent-heat-cools-as-homes-are-replaced Comment on thread (in moderation) … Christchurch is a “severely unaffordable” City as the Annual Demographia Survey ( www.demographia.com ) illustrates … thanks...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Academic’s study shows need for a Ministry of Public Input
    A book by Associate Professor Jennifer Lees-Marshment recommends the creation of a Ministry of Public Input to collect, process and communicate the publics’ ideas to government. The University of Auckland’s political marketing expert says the...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Government inaction killing innocent motorists
    Innocent people are dying due to long delays in installing centre lane barriers on high risk roads, says an outspoken road safety campaigner....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Property revaluations for council rates must be reformed
    Opportunity to bring controls on rating value changes and more equitable level of annual rates increase...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Ron Mark Sets the Example
    The Taxpayers’ Union is welcoming the pledge by Mayor of Carterton and NZ First candidate Ron Mark who has announced he would relinquish his roles as Mayor and member of two District Health Boards if successfully elected to Parliament. Taxpayers’...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Ban 1080 Candidates announced for 2014 General Election
    MEDIA RELEASE: Angry rural communities want issue of 1080 aerial drops taken to the polls, says party co-leader Ban 1080 Candidates announced for 2014 General Election...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Governor General Gives Direction to Conduct Election
    The Governor General, Lt Gen The Rt Hon Sir Jerry Mateparae, has given the green light for this year’s General Election....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • New Zealand Animal Groups Unite to Help
    WELLINGTON (19 Aug 2014) – The Be Cruelty-Free campaign to ban animal testing of cosmetics in New Zealand just got bigger and stronger, as two leading animal protection groups come on board. Joining forces with Humane Society International which has...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Students Interrupt Steven Joyce at University Event
    A group of 30 students this evening interrupted an event about ‘the future of tertiary education’ at which Tertiary Education Minister Steven Joyce was slated to speak. As Joyce began to speak, students interrupted with a speech of their own....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Caritas among first responders offering relief in Iraq
    As the plight of Iraqis fleeing persecution reaches tragic levels, Caritas Aotearoa New Zealand has pledged an initial $10,000 to support the work of Caritas in Iraq to provide humanitarian aid to thousands of families affected by the war and...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • iPredict 2014 Election Update #31: Nats take hit
    Election race narrows significantly · National party vote now below Labour/Greens · National’s probability of leading next government dips to 72% · Joyce expected to take over as National leader before end of 2015, as Collins’ prospects fall...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Call for applications – Fulbright scholar awards
    Fulbright New Zealand calls for applications to a range of scholar awards for New Zealand academics, artists and professionals to undertake academic and cultural exchanges to the United States of America. A Fulbright exchange provides life-changing opportunities...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • CWS launches appeal for Iraqis on World Humanitarian Day
    Christian World Service is appealing for help for tens of thousands of Iraqis caught up in one of the world’s horrifying conflicts....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Promoting the Voice of the Rangatahi
    Young Māori voters are seen by the Māori Party to have a vital part to play in saving the Māori seats in Parliament says the Māori Party’s youngest candidate, Reverend Te Hira Paenga. “What we’re hearing on the ground is...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Nelson Election Candidates’ Community Forum
    Nelson’s community and volunteer sector has some serious questions to put to the local candidates in the run up to next month’s general election....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
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