So signing the TPP will mean that we cannot control the ownership of New Zealand by foreign speculators.
Just another reason why this ‘free trade’ treaty would be a disaster for everyone in New Zealand except the 1%. And guess who controls the media?
Except Zanu-PF in Zimbabwe used to think the same way you do. Now they are positively begging for foreign investors as they haven’t got any money of their own.
Their problem isn’t money but their failure to use their own money to utilise their resources. Foreign investment would fail there as well and for the same reasons – a small group of people taking too much for themselves.
They tried doing what you suggested. They destroyed their currency and were forced to use other nations money. That is where YOUR policies lead to Draco. It is inevitable. Why do you think Venezuela is about to experience hyper-inflation now?
You really are full of it Gosman. The only reason we ‘need’ foreign investment is so the country can continue paying the dividends on existing foreign investment.
If NZ didn’t have a current account deficit we wouldn’t need foreign investment and if the country hadn’t taken in so much foreign investment in the past we wouldn’t have a current account deficit.
Foreign investment does nothing for this country. Its only real achievement has been to drive up asset prices which makes the country less competitive in world markets.
Why do you think the Zimbabwe regime changed it’s tune in relation to foreign investment? What possible reason would they have to go from an anti-instment position to one in which they are positively begging that people invest there?
Because it is the concepts expressed (and actually enacted in Zimbabwe’s case) which are common. Zimbabwe used to think they could do away with pesky foreign investment. They used their Monetary system in the way that Draco T Bastard believes it can be used here (i.e. they printed money to fund critical inputs in industry and farming). They drove away foreign capital and relied on their domestic base to support devlopment initiatives. This according to your logic should lead to wonderous outcomes. However only a few short years later we see the same Politicians begging for Foreign investors to come back. I find that fascinating don’t you?
That’s complete nonsense. Zimbabwe printed money without creating, buying or building assets to back that new money. Of course they suffered hyper-inflation.
They want foreign investment now primarily because their own money has no value on the international markets and they can’t import enough to keep them going.
NZ is nothing like Zimbabawe, and Zimbabwes problems have nothing whatsoever to do with foreign investment, so why are you bringing it up?
You are quite wrong. Zimbabwe printed money for the express aim of attempting to support their productive sector and to enable them to fund critical government spending such as civil service salaries and pensions. Do you not think support for civil servants and pensions is valuable spending?
Stop talking crap Gosman. Even a first year economics student should know that money creation without wealth creation causes inflation.
Zimbabwes troubles are entirely down to corruption, something most of the educated world knows. Foreign investment won’t help them, that will merely prolong the agony and let the crooks loot the nation’s wealth a little longer.
No, Zimbabwe’s problem is that they have a Government that thinks it is the job of government to create (or at least direct the creation of) wealth and that they can help their ‘people’ by using the auspices of State power to do so. In that regard they are very typical to your average leftist on this blog.
Gosman simply uses the phrase “Zimbabwe” as a discussion stopper.
As an example it is irrelevant to NZ.
NZ can clearly afford to spend more on its people and its capabilities, Gossie is just trying to hide an inconvenient fact that political decisions have been made not to.
No, Zimbabwe’s problem is that they have a Government that thinks it is the job of government to create (or at least direct the creation of) wealth
Nah you don’t know shit about Zimbabwe government political economics.
I think you will find that they created money to repay overseas debt – odious debt at that. They had no alternative. I think also that Zimbabwe was “punished” for pursuing land policies which the lending countries disliked.
“I think you will find that they created money to repay overseas debt – ”
That’s not really possible mikesh. You can only print your own sovereign money and printing more just makes it worth less in foreign exchange. Overseas creditors would have needed to have their debt denominated in local currency for that to work and that’s not likely
Zimbabwe literally printed screeds of new money, they ended up with zillion whatever notes that were near worthless.
Your argument is completely flaw Zimbabwe is under the control of a facist racist completely Corrupt Dictator.
No one will invest in that country .
Gooseman your a complete Dickhead.
Probably one of the 5 eyed spies paid to undermine constructive debate.
Your arguments are never rational or backed by hard facts.
You are paid purely to disrupt.
Funny how you always resort to developing nations or undeveloped nations with existing massive problems before they tried social policies for your examples, instead of successful Northern European social democracies.
The Northern European Social Democracies are the ones that are attempting to enforce austerity style policies on countries like Greece because they understand you can’t spend your way to prosperity.
But you’re the one saying we need foreign investment Gosman. Greece are in trouble because they have too much foreign investment and now they can’t pay the dividends on it.
The Northern European Social Democracies are the ones that are attempting to enforce austerity style policies on countries like Greece because they understand you can’t spend your way to prosperity.
Irrelevant chanting of catch phrases Gossie.
Germany wants to subjugate Greece as an example to other countries and other voters in the EU. It is a raw exercise of power as a warning to European democracies who think they can run their own affairs independent of Brussels.
The Greeks were probably mugs to join the Eurozone in the first place.
However they were managing OK until financial assistance dried up as a result of the GFC. Who caused the GFC, Mr Gosman?
Mikesh Greece was fucked over by Goldman Sachs corrupting both right and left politicians wineing and Dining them on luxury super yatchs owned by non taxpaying super rich oliagarchs filling their Swiss bank accounts.
Then Goldman Sachs corrupted the Ratings Agencies to then defraud the Big European Banks of €100s of billions.
Now Greece is being forced to pay interest on printed Ponzi money $1.4 trillion being printed now by the ECB.
While Goldman Sachs and their corrupt ratings Agencies,Corrupted Center right and Center left politicians .
Goldman Sachs has not had to pay a single cent in reperation or face Jail time for this massive fraud that was exposed only after 2 senior Goldman Sachs officials blew the whistle.
Goldman Sachs and their Oliagarchs corrupt mates are still reaping massive amounts of money as the Greek economy gets screwed over as govt assets were flogged off at firesale price’s.
ie.the Greek govt owned lottery was sold for€1billion when it true worth was between €6 and€10 billion.
Sold by the same corrupt politicians.
No they didn’t. If they did then their economy would be working.
They destroyed their currency and were forced to use other nations money.
Yep, they did. They printed money with little to no restriction and while giving the productive land to the favoured few who then failed to use that land thus losing production.
Yep Gossie doesn’t even understand the basics of supply and demand.
Zimbabwe failed to invest the money it created in capabilities to create the valuable goods and services that would create a demand for payment in their currency.
Hyper inflation set in because Zimbabwe did the reverse – it destroyed the nation’s ability to produce valuable goods and services, setting up an environment where there was lots of supply of the currency and no demand = hyperinflation.
It does concern me that Tim Groser has such a personal interest in seeing the TPPA signed that he will be seduced by the influence of the US flattery and not see the real “end game” of those who have hijacked the process.
The bypassing of a state’s judicial system by the Investor State Dispute Settlement process, (originally designed to provide protection for corporations investing in 3rd world countries with dodgy judicial systems) is only being pushed by those who will abuse the system.
“E moe ana te mata hī tuna, ara ana te mata hī taua.
Though the eyes of the eel fisher might be closed in sleep, the eyes of the sentry are always awake.” (Reed Book of Māori Proverbs)
Please remind Tim that he is the sentry for Aotearoa, not the eel fisher.
On Morning Report the Canadian was suggesting that Canada may pull out because of the risks to their sovereignty. Perhaps the Canadians have “more guts.”
Or perhaps the inefficient Canadian Dairy industry has disproportiate influence in the political system over there. I love the fact that you lefties make common cause with the Canadian Dairy indusrty. It would be like if Big Tobacco was opposed to the TPPA and you were cheering them on.
Canada was shafted by the US-Canada FTA and NAFTA, Wheat and Grain farmers went to the wall (a very good friend of mine was a grain farmer there and his family had been on the land since the early 18th C – subsidized corn from the US destroyed their livelihood as it is doing to farmers around the world, and they can see the same happening for dairy. Canada has every reason to want to can this TPPA deal. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/supply-management-in-canada-why-politicians-defend-farm-marketing-boards-1.3166329
If you want to see a good example about how Canada was sold down the river for USA benefit read the book or watch the movie The Arrow the story of how Canada’s Fighter Aircraft was destroyed on orders of their Prime Minister and all their plans designs etc were shipped to a USA.
Amazing story of how Canada was forced to kowtow to USA
Gossie thinks corporations should be allowed to exercise unlimited power while sovereign states should be constrained in every way possible. In other words, Gossie is promoting crony corporatocracy (with superficial trimmings of democracy) as his favoured form of rule.
Amazing story of how Canada was forced to kowtow to USA
Yet another example of the elite of a nation selling out their fellow countrymen.
Oh yes I know all about Black Friday. Friday, February 20th, 1959 is known as Black Friday in Canadian aviation, 52,000 workers lost their jobs, one of them was a good friend who remembers the day full well. I saw what was left of the Arrow last year when I visited the Canadian National Aeronautical Museum in Ottawa. It was an impressive aircraft – but suddenly outmoded with the advent of the space race. Much of the technology found its way into the Concord etc.
For those unfamiliar with the story – se here: http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/benchtalk/4438619/Black-Friday–The-Avro-Arrow-tragedy
You can read the same thing about the TS2. Light years ahead of anyone, Australia was going to buy it but was “persuaded by the Yanks to buy that swing wing heap of shit called the F111. Like the Canadian’s were forced to but an American Missile that never worked.
Wilson needed support from America to get an IMF loan. The plane was scrapped broken up and within a few weeks the only flying airframe was taken to a firing range for target practice. Bloody disgusting the Yanks don’t like other countries getting ahead with technology that could threaten their armaments industry.
Wilson the fucking prat also at the same time cancelled a supersonic version of the Harrier jump jet. The ironic bit about all this, it cost the British and Australian tax payers more money (don’t know actual figures though I have heard double) by cancelling the TSR2 and going for that heap of unreliable crap called the F111
That was the problem with the British aircraft Industry too many fucking prat politicians who did not know how to fix a fucking bike let alone the complexities of the aircraft industry that over the years fucked the great industry it was once.
Sir Sydney Cam designer of the Hurricane and Hunter “I think” said the
TSR2 had four dimensions length, width, height and politics. It got the first three right.
Or that all socialism is the same as Venezuela Gooseman.
You have spun your self into several holes today gooseman.
ie Northern European countries don’t spend their way to prosperity yeah rightright you are just a spin artist /BS
weakened environmental law
privatisation of water reticulation and community owned lines companies
weakened labour law (companies sue the government for increasing minimum wage and expanding sick leave)
higher power prices
privatisation of health and education
privatisation of what is left of our SOE’s
Free trade has lead to nothing but unemployment and misery of thousands of people all so we can buy cheap iPads at harvey normans.
Don’t worry about it, the respected Mr Little is merely biding his time in the lead up to the next election because like a good sportsperson you don’t want to peak too early
Certainly the elephant in the room, and glossed over once-lightly here at TS. Looking at the stats when the previous leaders were rolled, and now slipping into 3rd place Little should be worried (although not surprised as his electorate rejected him also). Trouble is that Labour cannot afford yet another change in leader, so it’s fingers crossed to 2017. He is going to get drubbing in the House this week, and Winston will lap it up.
Anything that puts NZF in a stronger bargaining position is not good for Labour, or the Nats for that matter. But in Labour’s case, Winston would be pushing strongly for Deputy PM which would certainly ruffle a few cardies.
Betcha they don’t get sacked.
Nats will probably employ the charter school model and give them more money, so to give the poor prisoners a better chance.
Looks like the Venezuelan Socialist experiment is heading the same brutal totalitarian way as all the other efforts at creating a Socialist ‘paradise’.
Exactly like laws enacted in the US… or Guantanamo Bay ….
I see the news services, owned by some of the richest corporations in the world who all make donations to US and UK and other political parties, have ramped up their one-eyed reporting on Venezuela recently again. Like Cuba all over.
You shouldn’t believe everything you read in the paper gosman. The people who own the papers have heavily vested political interests.
I’m well aware of media bias thank you very much. What I am interested in is the facts and whether they point towards a particular discernable trend.
What is quite clear from Venezuela is that the facts on the ground (Price controls, Shortages, Increased government powers, crack down on dissent) all point towards the same sort of outcome that most experiments in trying to implement Socialism end at.
Which of the facts do you dispute? Do you deny shortages exist in Venezuela? Do you deny price controls have been implemented there? Do you deny the Government is now forcing farmers to sell to State owned stores as a matter of priority? Do you deny Opposition politicians and protestors are being arrested and thrown in to prison? Do myou deny that the Government is not even recording (or at least reporting) key statistics such as inflation?
Why do you ignore the facts of the situation? Even the Venezuelan Government grudgingly admits that the situation is not good. Hence why they have implemented such drastic steps as what they did with farmers last week.
What is happening there is entirely predictable as I have pointed out. Have a read of this article. It points out how these sorts of situations play out.
So from continuous corrupt right wing murderous facist dictatorships to a left wing dictatorship .
Gooseman once again you have done no research just pushed your handlers propaganda using a little bit of the picture and adding BS to make your story line.
Maduro is in his last legs. He will be overthrown in a not so distant future, and Venezuela’s socialist nightmare, read poverty and misery, will come to an end.
You mean the poverty and misery will return again under a right-wing Government, that looks after the super rich first and foremost and ensures America has access to Venezuelan oil exports again.
You are so right but the tradgedy is 40% of Venezuela is Controlled by drug Cartels who getting rich of the US war on drugs policy.
So what happens when Maduro goes.
Nothing is going to change anyone who takes power and tries to stamp out corruption and take back the streets that the cartels control will be assassinated pronto.
1. Say that should information gathered by the foreign tax ID show there was a problem the government might act to restrict offshore buy up.
That is deliberately prevaricate on the issue waiting for TPP (which would ban blocks on foreign ownership) to prevent this option and end debate on it.
2. Forced to admit that TPP would block action to prevent foreign buy up, he changes strategy to suggest a possible stamp duty on foreign buyers of residential property. He notes Oz does this (untrue their stamp duty applies for everyone).
But the free trade deal with China already states that their investors must have the same tax rules as local investors. Thus we either have a stamp duty on all foreign buyers but the Chinese, or we apply it on local investors as well. Neither is plausible so again the prevarication until we have lost sovereignty on the issue and can then do nothing – it being beyond our control.
You have no evidence that the TPPA will ban restrictions on Foreign ownership. It isn’t even discussed in the details that have been leaked so far. If you honestly think nations such as Japan and the US (Not to mention Malaysia and Singapore will allow a free for all on FDI I think you are very much mistaken and don’t understand the political realities that exist in each of these nations.
Given we have referendums when there is an impact on our constitutional framework – why is there no call for, or expectation of, a referendum to mandate the TPP?
Matthew Hooton blithely announcing on TPPA that if NZ wanted to walk away from TPPA, all that would be needed is six months notice. Easy peasy how he tells it.
True?? If so what would be the fallout? There would be sure to be costs through penalties of different sorts.
@freedom snap. And I didn’t notice Mike Williams offering seasoned advice on this point.
The best time to return after leaving would be when the tariffs on dairy come to an end in 20 years time. By then we may have sorted out Auckland housing and farming economics. And the problem of affording super – made easier by not having Pharmac costs balloon out.
I assume that will be Labour’s policy, if in fact the deal is signed and ratified by the next election, which I doubt – but Groser is confident so I could be wrong.
You stated, on Radio NZ earlier today, that NZ could walk away from the TPPA after giving six months notice.
On what facts particular to the TPPA did you base your statement?
Why do you think he is wrong on this point? The same pretty much applies to every other international agreement NZ is part of. Even Climate change agreements can be ditched by any party to the agreement. What enforcement mechanism exists to keep us in CER for example?
It seems to be a reasonable request for information as to where one can get details about the TPPA.
You might say other agreements have reasonable exit clauses, but that’s just inductive reasoning applied to a particularly incompetent government. The Eurozone does not seem to have exit mechanisms, for example.
The Eurozone doesn’t have a FORMAL exit mechanism. There would have been nothing stopping Greece from leaving it though. The issue is whether it would have impacted their membership of the EU as well given the requirements stipulated in that organisation. They could still have left though.
I’m amazed you think it’s acceptable to make up unilateral ad hoc exit procedures from international agreements. Perhaps we should name this Gossie’s Law?
So I guess the question can be rephrased (especially for you, gos) “What basis does Hooten have for believing that there are formal mechanisms to leave the TPPA with ‘six months notice’?”
Furthermore, one could also ask “If Hooten used the phrase ‘walk away’, does that mean that he knows that those formal mechanisms would involve trivial impact based on requirements stipulated in the TPPA, and what basis does he have for believing that?”
Hooton is downplaying concerns as if it is as easy as pie up and opting out. It won’t be. Your barking mad if you think multi national conglomerates are going to let us off the hook once signed in.
The corporates would send in the US Navy with guns pointing at the Beehive if we dare break the TPPA ranks.
As McFlock mentions, it was a reasonable request given the unambiguous nature of Mr Hooton’s statement on RNZ
maybe you missed it Gosman, jump to 23:20 http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/201763979
You don’t seem to realise how International agreements work. They are generally via consensual agreement of all parties. Enforcement of agreements therefore can only be via the same way. The worst that could happen is that another party or parties to the agreement could impose some sanction on NZ but they could do that now. For example there is nothing stopping the US from imposing a trade embargo on us like they do with Cuba.
The question is not how other agreements work, it is how the TPPA works.
Yet, ad nauseam, you ignore the reality of that circumstance.
The reality which says: we do not know how the TPPA will work because the terms are secret.
You have no clue about the TPPA’s structure! How do I know this? Simple deductive logic.
The structure is a form you can not know because it has not been shown to you. It has not been shown to any of us.
Or to put it another way…
It is the client being asked to sign off final plans of their new house, sight unseen, after being told by the architect via a scratchy toll call from overseas, that it’s a beautiful home and it sort of looks like that one down by #7 with bits of #32 from round the corner thrown on top. The architect’s steadfast assurance how the plans will be posted to you offers little in the way of consolation, since their delivery is not scheduled for several years after you take occupancy.
but you know all of this already
which leaves us in familiar territory, pondering the point of your disingenuous discussion
and feeling a little sad at your desperation to follow the lies regardless the cost to your own intellectual dignity
Yes no doubt. He reminds me of an old popular song Little Sir Echo how do you do.
I made the point that we can learn from what has happened to other signees, learn and beware.
I couldn’t resist looking on google. Just everything is there = and what did I find the Wiggles singing the song. One of the singers even looks a wee bit like Hooton.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QacxZBaL3w_)
So you know fuck all about international relations.
The president might have limited powers to impose sanctions via executive order (although declaring us an enemy under the war powers act might be viewed as a tad OTT by the rest of the world, or even within the US).
But then if the TPPA is signed having had the fast-track from congress, there might be enabling clauses that ease the path for fines and sanctions should we withdraw. Penalties if we back out. Powers for international bodies or the executive that don’t apply until we’re in the TPPA. A bit like how I’m not liable for a bond until I sign a lease for a room, but after that I might lose the bond if I break the lease early.
The TPP is being signed in secret.
It was dishonest of you to say what you did.
But then you are in marketing and pr.
When does telling the truth come first in that profession?
So you have read the TPPA Mathew .
Tell us moron this before we are subjugated.
Tell us only Dairy is being opened up while the rest of our agricultural exports won’t be included.our broadband won’t be regulated.
Pharmac undermined by a few sneeky clauses,that our businesses and govt won’t be sued.
Matthew Hooton has just stated on Radio NZ that if we sign up to the TPPA and decide it is not really a good fit, NZ only has to give six months notice and it can withdraw from the TPPA.
Since the terms of the TPPA are secret and will remain so for years after signing them off, anyone else interested on what evidence does he base such a definitive statement?
The deafening silence from the host of course, was expected. Can’t have journalists asking their guests to validate their statements can we.
I have looked up google on withdrawing from the TPPA and found this as one statement from Catherine Beard Executive Director Export NZ. from 16 Nov 2013.
“Some say this agreement is going to sign away our sovereignty forever. Really? We suspect that TPP will, like all our agreements to date, contain a standard termination clause.
The most recently signed agreement, with Taiwan, says the following: “This agreement shall remain in force until one party gives written notice of its intention to terminate it, in which case this agreement shall terminate 180 days after the date of this notice of termination.”
How can an agreement that can be terminated bind us irreparably as some are suggesting?
Me: I know other countries have been sued. Are we not able to learn from others experience??
Confucius:
By three methods we may learn wisdom:
First, by reflection, which is noblest;
Second, by imitation, which is easiest;
and third by experience, which is the bitterest. http://thinkexist.com/quotation/by_three_methods_we_may_learn_wisdom-first-by/10494.html
I really wonder about apparently intelligent people who state because B says ‘x’ and F says ‘x’ that automatically means ‘y’ will be the same.
Let’s compare the deal to a contemporary employment contract. Do people blindly assume the new contract will be the same as their last contract, (regardless of what area of the economy that last job might have been in) or do people want to read the new contract before agreeing to it?
“A Solid Energy spokesman said the company still had about five employees working at the site. The injured man was not a Solid Energy employee.”
I’m guessing he was a contractor. Or if he was the owner, did he have the appropriate training to be undertaking such work?
“The new owner had been on site organising the removal of the bathhouse, but it was unknown whether it was the owner who was injured or someone working for him.,”
Nothing has changed. The dead, the grieving and the victims of workplace injury have been betrayed by Key’s broken promise.
Serco: From John Palethorpe on Public Adress.
“Only 10% of Serco’s fee is performance-related and penalties for failing to effectively manage the prison cannot exceed 10% quarterly or annually. So, for their $30,000,000 a year, are New Zealanders getting the effective service they deserve?”
I guess that Serco has a pretty good deal going with relatively little to loose.
Dmitry Orlov looking at the collapse of the US economy from a background of the collapse of the Soviet Union. (28 min video)
“The Walmart (The Warehouse) model is basically how to go bankrupt when you can no longer go deeper into debt. That’s the Walmart model. You take everybody’s job, you offshore it, you flood the local market with imports and wait for everybody to go bankrupt so you can close the Walmart, and nothing’s left.”
Very interesting take on things, focused on self sufficiency. We are currently looking at an organic glasshouse to cut down on nasty supermarket veg which will only become less edible and more expensive when GMO’s start kicking in with this TPPA nightmare.
Nice, would love to do something similar if I had the land. It’s very satisfying growing your own food and I think for a lot of people the best thing is knowing you’re getting it for free! I’m looking forward to the vegetable revolt in coming years, where everyone goes stuff this I’m growing my own or getting them from my neighbour.
@maui
That Walmart model, that is a really good analogy of what the global oligarchs seem to be working on. What is it called in an actual war – scorched earth treatment? Or you could say is take what you want then poison the wells.
Oh noes, perhaps du Fresne wants to try and get him struck off the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists then.
From Karl:
What journalists don’t do, in my experience, is set out to pursue causes, which is what Hager has done for nearly 20 years….
Everything he does is calculated to challenge and undermine what we loosely call “the establishment”.
And from the wikipedia definition:
Investigative journalism is a form of journalism in which reporters deeply investigate a single topic of interest, such as serious crimes, political corruption, or corporate wrongdoing.
Perhaps Hager should fire himself for doing his job too well.
How silly can Karl be? His definition of journalist wipes out most “journalists” in MSM. Including Karl. His column seems to be attempting to do a good job for your mates who currently run Government, by diminishing the standing of a highly regarded international journalist in Nicky. Shame on him.
Jane Bowron’s column in today’s press is a scathing indictment of the government.
The Serco debacle, Sky city’s latest cynical PR attempt, the so called ‘merciless’ Paul Henry and his sycophantic weekly chats with the Prime Minister and his campaign to bring back Judith Collins to replace the incompetent Sam Lottowhatever, reminding us that Collins brought us Serco in the first place and was also responsible for overcrowding in prisons causing an “escalation in violence”.
Perhaps the best part is her summary:
“It’s hard to find this Government actually doing much governing,
outsourcing state responsibilities to the private sector in a bogus private and
public job share.”
Great to see a columnist/journo speaking out and telling it like it is.Fair,balanced and unafraid but I wonder if her contract will soon be under review.
I posted this above in relation to Venezuela but as it details exactly why leftists economic thinking leads to inevitable collapse I’ll do so again here.
So if neo liberal economic theory is so good why is the US 18 trillion in debt, expected to blow out to 25 million? I don’t think you need go further than that.
As to Venezuela the US has its panties in a knot because its color revolution model was not transferable from the Ukraine and now the government there is China’s biggest arms buyer and a military/economic partner. Worse still it had the cheek to tell the Yanks to sod off. Outrageous!
The capitalist class are working hard to disrupt and isolate Venezuela. The US has wanted Venezuela back in the grip of the financial elite since Chavez took over. They are willing to cause suffering to millions in order to get their profits.
Your already low credibility is not in any way improved by your linking to such an addle-pated blog.
I suspect you know next to nothing about the situation in Venezuela, and that you have not actually read anything. Fox News and the Murdoch press is no substitute for serious reading. I have counselled you on this several times, but you are still wasting our time by presenting idiotic fare like this Coppola woman’s moronic site.
Why are you here instead of settling down with a whole lot of books?
You are obsessed with Zimbabwe and Venezuela.
How life been for ordinary people in Ukraine, Libya, Iraq, Indonesia, Guatemala and other countries since right wing fascists took over their country and imposed the neo- liberal market nightmare on those countries?
“So, y’know, but, uh, Matthew’s quite right…”
Hooton walks all over a weak and vacillating Mike Williams, yet again Politics, Radio NZ National, Monday 27 July 2015, 11:08 AM
Kathryn Ryan, Matthew Hooton, Mike Williams
Surely—SURELY—there are better representatives of “the left” than Paul Holmes’s old classmate Mike “I agree with Matthew” Williams. A few years back, on this same program, Matthew Hooton was regularly shown up by the likes of Andrew Campbell, Laila Harré and Sue Bradford. Hooton is not at all articulate when he is confronted by a brighter person; the clear superiority of Campbell, Harré and Bradford meant that he was often left with no option other than withdrawing in to a sullen, resentful silence.
Against an opponent less sharp, however, Hooton will run amok. He regularly got the better of the absurdly over-polite CTU economist Peter Harris, and he would do the same with Josie Pagani too, if she ever dared to do anything other than agree with every word he snarls out.
And that’s the problem with the former Labour Party president Mike Williams—a lack of fire, and an almost pathetic eagerness to find common ground with one of the most cynical National Party operatives in the country. Today, Williams actually bestirred himself on a couple of occasions to say something in contradiction to Hooton, but he was hopelessly diffident and pretty much ineffective.
Here’s a brief rush transcript of the lowlights of today’s awful, awful show….
MIKE WILLIAMS: … but I just can’t see a justification for private prisons. MATTHEW HOOTON: But that’s your ideological position. MIKE WILLIAMS:[in a desperate, put-upon tone] But it’s been proven to be CORRECT!
In the absence of any more substantial comeback from Williams, Hooton now takes the opportunity to embark on a lengthy, wandery rant against the “ideological” Labour Party…..
MATTHEW HOOTON:[speaking slowly and sententiously, so as to convey impression of deep thoughtfulness] … The opponents of this are ideological…. the profound hypocrisy of people who have this profound obsession with ownership of things. MIKE WILLIAMS: It’s the Minister of Corrections who I felt sorry for. I think he does a good job. ….[He bores on unconvincingly, accompanied by approving grunts from Hooton, who no doubt cannot believe how easy this is.]
…….
KATHRYN RYAN: This drive by Bill English to bring competition to areas where it is not necessarily there. Like gambling addiction services… MATTHEW HOOTON: ….the halfwits in the Labour Party. …. stupid policies. …. so half-witted that Labour is going nowhere in the polls.
……..
MIKE WILLIAMS: Matthew and I have both taken advantage of rising Auckland house prices in the last three months! MATTHEW HOOTON:[conspiratorially snickering] Heh heh!
……..
The last topic is the TPPA. Once again, it’s Hooton that does nearly all the talking….
MATTHEW HOOTON: There’s one thing about all this, there’s a fundamental point that Jane Kelsey will never tell you is that a future government can always withdraw from the TPPA. …. The TPPA would put a stop to some things. For example, if a future government prepared to seize all houses owned by Chinese people—-
KATHRYN RYAN: Oh, I don’t think ANYONE is proposing that.
Mike Williams is silent as Hooton continues to make the most scurrilous and outlandish claims about Labour.
KATHRYN RYAN: Labour’s in a difficult position, isn’t it. It doesn’t want to be left out of the TPPA, but its supporters oppose it. MIKE WILLIAMS: Yeah, I think it is. But Tim Groser’s pointed out that he’s not signing anything that leaves out dairy. So, y’know, but, uh, Matthew’s quite right, there ARE constraints on sovereignty. … The devil’s in the detail. Let’s see what is finally signed. KATHRYN RYAN: But that’s the irony—no one gets to see it. [snickers in plaintive resignation] MATTHEW HOOTON: Yeah but, y’know, there will be a debate before ratification. … I think that what we’re seeing with Labour is that there’s a faction within Labour that’s never reconciled themselves to the existence of free markets, they were not really happy with what happened after ’84. They don’t believe there should be markets, they think that they— MIKE WILLIAMS: Ha ha ha ha! MATTHEW HOOTON: They think they should be more strongly regulated. MIKE WILLIAMS: Can I say that—- MATTHEW HOOTON: And that criticism, that aversion to markets can’t be expressed publicly in New Zealand because it’s so SILLY. KATHRYN RYAN: Well, the aversion to UNFETTERED markets. MATTHEW HOOTON: So this debate occurs in a context within the Labour Party over free trade. But, um, this is simply what it’s all about. It’s whether people are comfortable with being in markets and whether they should be extended globally. MIKE WILLIAMS: Can I say this? I was president of the Labour Party for nearly a decade and campaign manager for twelve years. That faction that Matthew just talked about—- MATTHEW HOOTON: They were in the Alliance then! MIKE WILLIAMS: I have never MET them! KATHRYN RYAN: Ha ha ha! MIKE WILLIAMS: They’re not there! This is a — ha ha ha ha! KATHRYN RYAN: Righto! MIKE WILLIAMS:Right wing fantasy! Ha ha ha! KATHRYN RYAN: Right oh! Thanks both of you, as always! Mike Williams, Matthew Hooton, politics.
Mike Williams did manage to make some good points in amongst the Hooton verbiage you know. Thanks Morrisey for the report which is as I remember it. Hooton was getting in his stride, and any National devotee would not have been persuaded by ANYTHING that Williams said. What he did say was enough to sink the hot air bubble.
Fair comments, shark. I just wish Williams would make them more clearly and more frequently. Laila Harré always had Hooton on the back foot; Williams on the other hand seems much too nice.
I think Mike does a good job. Shouting back would not improve the dialog. And anyway what Matthew says is often worth listening to as it represents usually what the Right are thinking and that is valuable. Even if we disagree with him.
I don’t think he does his job very well at all. He seems reluctant to get offside with Hooton, as if he has to keep in his good books. That’s no doubt the way a political party president operates—wheeling and dealing in favours—but it’s not the way a serious commentator behaves.
Shouting back would not improve the dialog.
He doesn’t need to shout—that’s what Hooton does whenever he gets contradicted. Williams only needs to speak clearly and demonstrate that he is not prepared to let Hooton get away with the outlandish statements he makes practically every time he comes on that show.
And anyway what Matthew says is often worth listening to as it represents usually what the Right are thinking and that is valuable. Even if we disagree with him.
The problem with Hooton is not whether his views are different to ours or not, it’s that he does not engage in serious or intelligent debate. He makes incendiary statements, as he did today, which Williams almost always lets him get away with. Hooton does not try to engage in intelligent debate any more than Michelle Boag does.
Mathew Hooton is the ideological lick-spittle on this issue.
What a completely disingenuous argument from him.
Matthew is an ideologue of the first order – and reading this, just proves he is just another one of the lying Tory brigands.
You know Matthew when your in power you are suppose to work for all people, even if they voted against you. Sorry I forgot, you are not a fan of democracy.
How is he an ideologue on this issue? He hasn’t expressed any displeasure that the State is involved in running Prisons, in fact he didn’t see why Serco should be involved in a Remand prison. That hardly seems ideologically based.
If you remember FOX news always had thei tame democrat. There was a guy called Colmes who was always alongside Swan Hannity; there to present a weak ineffective alternative to the rants of Hannity.
I was sorry to read that Simon Mercep has left RadioNZ. The figures for the afternoon show he hosted were up. He was a pleasant listen but I note that other media have been debating him for over a year. Maybe they are Jim Mora devotees. He seems to be extra to requirements, perhaps it is time for him to move, ‘Scary Mary’ is down since he joined. She doesn’t need him. One thing I did notice was that Simon sounded a bit like Mora, who was not a favourite of mine, bit oily.
@Clemgeopin
It is an accurate description of Mary Wilson’s interrogating style in the RadioNZ evening drivetime slot. She is hot and determined, also gets called a rotweiler. She’s an excellent interviewer and a must to listen – 5 to 7 pm on Checkpoint. Jim Mora has been put in there to dilute the power.
I think there is a desire for dilution on the part of Radionz management, because so many people don’t want to listen to anything but candyfloss or little bouts of drama, tragedy, cuteness, bitchiness or camaraderie. The other morning Guyon and Susie were having a short disagreement as to who they considered the best James Bond actor. Uuugh.
Further thoughts. Chit chat for people who live in lala land, looking forward to their next drink, consumer purchase, supply of soma (google meaning – the body as distinct from the mind, soul or psyche) also the name of the drug maintaining a feeling of wellbeing in book Brave New World – Aldous Huxley. “the warm, the richly coloured, the infinitely friendly world of soma-holiday. How kind, how good-looking, how delightfully amusing every one was! ”
Interesting quotes to dip into from Brave New World. http://www.bookrags.com/notes/bnw/quo.html#gsc.tab=0
Margaret Atwood’s take on BNW:
…Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World (1932), which proposed a different and softer form of totalitarianism – one of conformity achieved through engineered, bottle-grown babies and hypnotic persuasion rather than through brutality, of boundless consumption that keeps the wheels of production turning and of officially enforced promiscuity that does away with sexual frustration, of a pre-ordained caste system ranging from a highly intelligent managerial class to a subgroup of dim-witted serfs programmed to love their menial work, and of soma, a drug that confers instant bliss with no side effects.
Ray Smith the head of the NZ Corrections Department was told today by prison officers during his visit to Mt Eden that the main issue was a lack of staff doing the job.
How else does Serco provide a cheaper service (and for profit) than the state, if not by having a higher prisoner to screw ratio?
Clarke Gayford calls out braindead ACT leader live on air.
Is there a minimum IQ for MPs in New Zealand? The Panel, Radio NZ National, Monday 27 July 2015
Jim Mora, Chris Gallavin, Clarke Gayford
In his Soapbox contribution after the 4:30 news, Clarke Gayford said how disturbed he was at finding plastic bags in the water near Great Barrier Island. This reminded him of the bizarre recent speech by National’s chained poodle David Seymour, who in parliament foolishly and without checking, cited a discredited Jamie Whyte-calibre “study” in order to bolster his crazy claim that banning plastic bags would lead to at least twenty deaths.
Something did not sound quite right about that, said Gayford, so he did some checking on the original material that formed the basis of the speech by Epsom’s finest. It was, he discovered, utterly spurious. Click on the following link for a decisive refutation of those frivolous faux-academics…..
The best-case scenario by the US Department of Agriculture, assuming Japan, the US and Canada removed all their tariffs, is a 0.01per cent increase in New Zealand’s GDP by 2025. Hardly ‘meaningful’.
And that’s only if we don’t get flooded by their over-production of dairy which is more likely.
Labour need to wake up to the fact that the ideology that they bought into 30+ years ago is bunk and start looking at better options.
The Serco debacle is obvious now, understaffing by the sound of the news reports to save money ,a blind eye to go with Key’s blind trust in private prisons
How long can Key keep living in blind trust and giving his salary as PM to charity its like sitting on the fence so he cant be held nailed for what we all know but cant afford to prove because what he represents is too big to fail so he gets to stand there as proof that we cant afford to stop him thats his job just be the facilitator because there is nothing that we can hold him accountable for anything that will actually affect him or tie him to all the deals hes done behind closed doors
His former boss in Merrill Lynch pulled Reagan’s strings for years One of the most ruthless ever , what name for a mortgagor,
“In peril we’ll lynch you” should have been what they were called
A bit of a conflict of interest you might say a bit like giving away the country’s sovereignty in the TPPA as now the crunch point is coming and Key has to put into practice all the secret terms of the agreements of the agreement privatising the govt in full
Wont ban foreign buyers because of the existing free trade agreements especially with China
Over a pork barrel in the politics you might think, this is what the power of the mighty do to NZ no matter which one they are
Key should change his name to Mr Catalyst because that is what his wishy washy statements amount to
The Aluminium smelter
Mining and Oil deals
Dirty Politics
The Northland by election
Auckland’s govt funding extending Ak to the Kaipara and south to the tron and west to the Tasman just to keep the main actors in the takeover of this country happy
2 terms of it and wait theres more but I cant be bothered its just too taxing
I know you lot are pretty pro-AGW. The latest New Scientist has an article on why people, even those who believe in AGW, are failing to act. It lists 33 reasons why (article assumes AGW is real and for present purposes this post assumes it is real as well).
Here’s a summary.
1. Ancient brain – we’re wired to act on the here and now not the sometime in the future.
2. Ignorance.
3. Environmental numbness – i.e. we’ve heard it so many times we’ve become numb to it.
4. Uncertainty.
5. Discounting – we undervalue future risks.
6. Optimism bias.
7. Perceived lack of behavioural control – we think our behaviour can do nothing.
8. Confirmation bias.
9. Time is money – people don’t act in environmentally positive ways when it’s their money they’re losing (gee who’d thunk it?).
10. Perceived in ability.
11. World views.
12. Suprahuman powers – i.e. God will save us.
13. Technosalvation – technology will save us and yep, I’m guilty.
14. System justification – tendency to defend the status quo.
15. Social comparison – my neighbour isn’t doing anything so why should I?
16. Social norms and networks.
17. Perceived inequity – i.e. why should I change if they won’t change?
18. Financial investments.
19. Habit.
20. Conflicting goals, values and aspirations – Many people favour addressing the economic cost of climate change, as long as it doesn’t come out of their own pockets (see #9).
21. Place attachment.
22. Mistrust.
23. Perceived programme inadequacy,
24. Denial.
25. Reactance – the tendency to struggle against whatever appears to threaten one’s freedom.
26. Functional risk.
27. Physical risk,
28. Financial risk.
29. Social risk.
30. Psychological risk
31. Temporal risk
32. Tokenism.
33. The rebound effect – Often, after some positive change is made, the gains are diminished or erased by subsequent actions.
So, if you believe in AGW and believe we have to act now, yet you still drive a car when you can take a bus, and aren’t willing to eat less meat, it might be because of one of the reasons listed above.
The free markets Mathew Hooton talks about are a myth.
Tim Grosser is hang on to his spin that he won’t sign up unless Dairy is included (production costs in the US are much lower ).
Other forms of agricultural exports will not be included because it will cause depopulation in Republican voter heartland where representation has been gerrymandered to keep the Republicans in charge.
Tim Grosser is not giving us the completed picture .
Double Dealing the public like he thinks the public are”Dopey”and can trust an druggie.
The TPPA needs to be given the light of day and the public fully informed.
We don’t need some shonKey deal done behind closed doors.
We need a proper fully open and democratic debate what have they got to hide .
Gosh – since John Key has been Prime Minister of New Zealand – haven’t the banks and traders done well?
We now have a derivatives market for dairying and electricity.
We now have the Auckland ‘Supercity’ – which because of its size – can now, as I understand it – borrow overseas currency
off shore.
We have this ‘white hot’ Auckland property market – which is marvellous for the speculators. land bankers, real estate agents, foreign investors, money-launderers and banks.
Sky City, in my opinion, have been able to effectively set up a money-laundering factory in the heart of Auckland City, given the failure of OFCANZ, PM John Key, Minister Steven Joyce, Auckland Council and Auckland Central Police to carry out any ‘due diligence’ on the increased risk of money-laundering arising from the NZ International Convention Centre Act.
A number of dairy farmers are now in hock to the banks – especially given the dramatic fall in the price of milk fat solids.
As I understand it – NZ debt is now over $100 billion, and as of 2012, exposure to derivatives was $112 billion?
And Prime Minister John Key is still a shareholder in the Bank of America – still arguably working for foreign banks and currency traders?
Advocating for the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) – from which he can arguably personally profit?
Its the ultimate tool of divide and rule
Break a dollar into as many unrecognisable pieces as possible
Its easier to reassemble it a form that fits your values so that the old value no longer is recognisable
Thats John Key
Just went to view Sunday on demand (to catch the China buying up Australia story everyone is talking about) only to find that segment of the show isn’t there
As you would expect from aussies on the front line but for us in this little principality and sadly with those who say its happenin here we are actually in the final stages of the annexing of this nation to an unidentifiable ruler of many parts and our history lessons will be worthless and our sovereignty gone and 90 mile beach will be an oil slick along with the pollution of our harbours fisheries rivers aquifers air soil you name it
Why simply because we dont talk enough about it because our universities are turning out manufacturers of the financial propaganda and subverters of free thought and power to question FUCKIN FASCISTS LIKE OUR PM AND LORD HAW HAW the latest version
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Many criticisms are being made of the Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill, including by this writer. But as with everything in politics, every story has two sides, and both deserve attention. It’s important to understand what the Government is trying to achieve and its arguments for such a bold reform. ...
Peter Dunne writes – The great nineteenth British Prime Minister, William Gladstone, once observed that “the first essential for a Prime Minister is to be a good butcher.” When a later British Prime Minister, Harold Macmillan, sacked a third of his Cabinet in July 1962, in what became ...
Ele Ludemann writes – New Zealanders had the OECD’s second highest tax increase last year: New Zealanders faced the second-biggest tax raises in the developed world last year, the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) says. The intergovernmental agency said the average change in personal income tax ...
We all know something’s not right with our elections. The spread of misinformation, people being targeted with soundbites and emotional triggers that ignore the facts, even the truth, and influence their votes.The use of technology to produce deep fakes. How can you tell if something is real or not? Can ...
This video includes conclusions of the creator climate scientist Dr. Simon Clark. It is presented to our readers as an informed perspective. Please see video description for references (if any). This year you will be lied to! Simon Clark helps prebunk some misleading statements you'll hear about climate. The video includes ...
It is all very well cutting the backrooms of public agencies but it may compromise the frontlines. One of the frustrations of the Productivity Commission’s 2017 review of universities is that while it observed that their non-academic staff were increasing faster than their academic staff, it did not bother to ...
Buzz from the Beehive Two speeches delivered by Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters at Anzac Day ceremonies in Turkey are the only new posts on the government’s official website since the PM announced his Cabinet shake-up. In one of the speeches, Peters stated the obvious: we live in a troubled ...
1. Which of these would you not expect to read in The Waikato Invader?a. Luxon is here to do business, don’t you worry about thatb. Mr KPI expects results, and you better believe itc. This decisive man of action is getting me all hot and excitedd. Melissa Lee is how ...
The Government is again adding to New Zealand’s growing unemployment, this time cutting jobs at the agencies responsible for urban development and growing much needed housing stock. ...
With Minister Karen Chhour indicating in the House today that she either doesn’t know or care about the frontline cuts she’s making to Oranga Tamariki, we risk seeing more and more of our children falling through the cracks. ...
The Labour Party is saddened to learn of the death of Sir Robert Martin, a globally renowned disability advocate who led the way for disability rights both in New Zealand and internationally. ...
Labour is calling for the Government to urgently rethink its coalition commitment to restart live animal exports, Labour animal welfare spokesperson Rachel Boyack said. ...
Today’s Financial Stability Report has once again highlighted that poverty and deep inequality are political choices - and this Government is choosing to make them worse. ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to do more for our households in most need as unemployment rises and the cost of living crisis endures. ...
Unemployment is on the rise and it’s only going to get worse under this Government, Labour finance spokesperson Barbara Edmonds said. Stats NZ figures show the unemployment rate grew to 4.3 percent in the March quarter from 4 percent in the December quarter. “This is the second rise in unemployment ...
The New Zealand Labour Party welcomes the entering into force of the European Union and New Zealand free trade agreement. This agreement opens the door for a huge increase in trade opportunities with a market of 450 million people who are high value discerning consumers of New Zealand goods and ...
The National-led Government continues its fiscal jiggery pokery with its Pharmac announcement today, Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall says. “The government has increased Pharmac funding but conceded it will only make minimal increases in access to medicine”, said Ayesha Verrall “This is far from the bold promises made to fund ...
This afternoon’s interim Waitangi Tribunal report must be taken seriously as it affects our most vulnerable children, Labour children’s spokesperson Willow-Jean Prime. ...
Te Pāti Māori are demanding the New Zealand Government support an international independent investigation into mass graves that have been uncovered at two hospitals on the Gaza strip, following weeks of assault by Israeli troops. Among the 392 bodies that have been recovered, are children and elderly civilians. Many of ...
Our two-tiered system for veterans’ support is out of step with our closest partners, and all parties in Parliament should work together to fix it, Labour veterans’ affairs spokesperson Greg O’Connor said. ...
Stripping two Ministers of their portfolios just six months into the job shows Christopher Luxon’s management style is lacking, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said. ...
Tonight’s court decision to overturn the summons of the Children’s Minister has enabled the Crown to continue making decisions about Māori without evidence, says Te Pāti Māori spokesperson for Children, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “The judicial system has this evening told the nation that this government can do whatever they want when ...
It appears Nicola Willis is about to pull the rug out from under the feet of local communities still dealing with the aftermath of last year’s severe weather, and local councils relying on funding to build back from these disasters. ...
The Government is making short-sighted changes to the Resource Management Act (RMA) that will take away environmental protection in favour of short-term profits, Labour’s environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said today. ...
Labour welcomes the release of the report into the North Island weather events and looks forward to working with the Government to ensure that New Zealand is as prepared as it can be for the next natural disaster. ...
The Labour Party has called for the New Zealand Government to recognise Palestine, as a material step towards progressing the two-State solution needed to achieve a lasting peace in the region. ...
Some of our country’s most important work, stopping the sexual exploitation of children and violent extremism could go along with staff on the frontline at ports and airports. ...
The Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill will give projects such as new coal mines a ‘get out of jail free’ card to wreak havoc on the environment, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said today. ...
The government's decision to reintroduce Three Strikes is a destructive and ineffective piece of law-making that will only exacerbate an inherently biased and racist criminal justice system, said Te Pāti Māori Justice Spokesperson, Tākuta Ferris, today. During the time Three Strikes was in place in Aotearoa, Māori and Pasifika received ...
Cuts to frontline hospital staff are not only a broken election promise, it shows the reckless tax cuts have well and truly hit the frontline of the health system, says Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall. ...
The Green Party has joined the call for public submissions on the fast-track legislation to be extended after the Ombudsman forced the Government to release the list of organisations invited to apply just hours before submissions close. ...
New Zealand’s good work at reducing climate emissions for three years in a row will be undone by the National government’s lack of ambition and scrapping programmes that were making a difference, Labour Party climate spokesperson Megan Woods said today. ...
More essential jobs could be on the chopping block, this time Ministry of Education staff on the school lunches team are set to find out whether they're in line to lose their jobs. ...
Te Pāti Māori is disgusted at the confirmation that hundreds are set to lose their jobs at Oranga Tamariki, and the disestablishment of the Treaty Response Unit. “This act of absolute carelessness and out of touch decision making is committing tamariki to state abuse.” Said Te Pāti Māori Oranga Tamariki ...
The Government is trying to bring in a law that will allow Ministers to cut corners and kill off native species, Labour environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said. ...
Cancelling urgently needed new Cook Strait ferries and hiking the cost of public transport for many Kiwis so that National can announce the prospect of another tunnel for Wellington is not making good choices, Labour Transport Spokesperson Tangi Utikere said. ...
A laundry list of additional costs for Tāmaki Makarau Auckland shows the Minister for the city is not delivering for the people who live there, says Labour Auckland Issues spokesperson Shanan Halbert. ...
Te Pāti Māori co-leader Rawiri Waititi, and Mema Paremata mō Tāmaki-Makaurau, Takutai Tarsh Kemp, will travel to the Gold Coast to strengthen ties with Māori in Australia next week (15-21 April). The visit, in the lead-up to the 9th Australian National Kapa haka Festival, will be an opportunity for both ...
The Government is modernising insurance law to better protect Kiwis and provide security in the event of a disaster, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly announced today. “These reforms are long overdue. New Zealand’s insurance law is complicated and dated, some of which is more than 100 years old. ...
The coalition Government is refreshing its approach to supporting pay equity claims as time-limited funding for the Pay Equity Taskforce comes to an end, Public Service Minister Nicola Willis says. “Three years ago, the then-government introduced changes to the Equal Pay Act to support pay equity bargaining. The changes were ...
Structured literacy will change the way New Zealand children learn to read - improving achievement and setting students up for success, Education Minister Erica Stanford says. “Being able to read and write is a fundamental life skill that too many young people are missing out on. Recent data shows that ...
Trade Minister Todd McClay says Canada’s refusal to comply in full with a CPTPP trade dispute ruling in our favour over dairy trade is cynical and New Zealand has no intention of backing down. Mr McClay said he has asked for urgent legal advice in respect of our ‘next move’ ...
The rights of our children and young people will be enhanced by changes the coalition Government will make to strengthen oversight of the Oranga Tamariki system, including restoring a single Children’s Commissioner. “The Government is committed to delivering better public services that care for our most at-risk young people and ...
The Government is making it easier for minor changes to be made to a building consent so building a home is easier and more affordable, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “The coalition Government is focused on making it easier and cheaper to build homes so we can ...
New Zealand lost a true legend when internationally renowned disability advocate Sir Robert Martin (KNZM) passed away at his home in Whanganui last night, Disabilities Issues Minister Louise Upston says. “Our Government’s thoughts are with his wife Lynda, family and community, those he has worked with, the disability community in ...
Good evening – Before discussing the challenges and opportunities facing New Zealand’s foreign policy, we’d like to first acknowledge the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs. You have contributed to debates about New Zealand foreign policy over a long period of time, and we thank you for hosting us. ...
From today, passengers travelling internationally from Auckland Airport will be able to keep laptops and liquids in their carry-on bags for security screening thanks to new technology, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Creating a more efficient and seamless travel experience is important for holidaymakers and businesses, enabling faster movement through ...
People with an interest in the health of Northland’s marine ecosystems are invited to a public meeting to discuss how to deal with kina barrens, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones will lead the discussion, which will take place on Friday, 10 May, at Awanui Hotel in ...
Kiwi exporters are $100 million better off today with the NZ EU FTA entering into force says Trade Minister Todd McClay. “This is all part of our plan to grow the economy. New Zealand's prosperity depends on international trade, making up 60 per cent of the country’s total economic activity. ...
There are heartening signs that the extractive sector is once again becoming an attractive prospect for investors and a source of economic prosperity for New Zealand, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The beginnings of a resurgence in extractive industries are apparent in media reports of the sector in the past ...
The return of the historic Ō-Rākau battle site to the descendants of those who fought there moved one step closer today with the first reading of Te Pire mō Ō-Rākau, Te Pae o Maumahara / The Ō-Rākau Remembrance Bill. The Bill will entrust the 9.7-hectare battle site, five kilometres west ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has announced 25 new high-speed EV charging hubs along key routes between major urban centres and outlined the Government’s plan to supercharge New Zealand’s EV infrastructure. The hubs will each have several chargers and be capable of charging at least four – and up to 10 ...
The coalition Government will not proceed with the previous Government’s plans to regulate residential property managers, Housing Minister Chris Bishop says. “I have written to the Chairperson of the Social Services and Community Committee to inform him that the Government does not intend to support the Residential Property Managers Bill ...
The Government has announced an independent review into the disability support system funded by the Ministry of Disabled People – Whaikaha. Disability Issues Minister Louise Upston says the review will look at what can be done to strengthen the long-term sustainability of Disability Support Services to provide disabled people and ...
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith has attended the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva and outlined the Government’s plan to restore law and order. “Speaking to the United Nations Human Rights Council provided us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while responding to issues and ...
The Government and Rotorua Lakes Council are committed to working closely together to end the use of contracted emergency housing motels in Rotorua. Associate Minister of Housing (Social Housing) Tama Potaka says the Government remains committed to ending the long-term use of contracted emergency housing motels in Rotorua by the ...
Trade Minister Todd McClay heads overseas today for high-level trade talks in the Gulf region, and a key OECD meeting in Paris. Mr McClay will travel to Riyadh to meet with counterparts from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC). “New Zealand’s goods and services exports to the Gulf region ...
Education Minister Erica Stanford has outlined six education priorities to deliver a world-leading education system that sets Kiwi kids up for future success. “I’m putting ambition, achievement and outcomes at the heart of our education system. I want every child to be inspired and engaged in their learning so they ...
The new NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) App is a secure ‘one stop shop’ to provide the services drivers need, Transport Minister Simeon Brown and Digitising Government Minister Judith Collins say. “The NZTA App will enable an easier way for Kiwis to pay for Vehicle Registration and Road User Charges (RUC). ...
Whānau with tamariki growing up in emergency housing motels will be prioritised for social housing starting this week, says Associate Housing Minister Tama Potaka. “Giving these whānau a better opportunity to build healthy stable lives for themselves and future generations is an essential part of the Government’s goal of reducing ...
Racing Minister Winston Peters has paid tribute to an icon of the industry with the recent passing of Dave O’Sullivan (OBE). “Our sympathies are with the O’Sullivan family with the sad news of Dave O’Sullivan’s recent passing,” Mr Peters says. “His contribution to racing, initially as a jockey and then ...
Assalaamu alaikum, greetings to you all. Eid Mubarak, everyone! I want to extend my warmest wishes to you and everyone celebrating this joyous occasion. It is a pleasure to be here. I have enjoyed Eid celebrations at Parliament before, but this is my first time joining you as the Minister ...
Associate Health Minister David Seymour has announced Pharmac’s largest ever budget of $6.294 billion over four years, fixing a $1.774 billion fiscal cliff. “Access to medicines is a crucial part of many Kiwis’ lives. We’ve committed to a budget allocation of $1.774 billion over four years so Kiwis are ...
Hon Paula Bennett has been appointed as member and chair of the Pharmac board, Associate Health Minister David Seymour announced today. "Pharmac is a critical part of New Zealand's health system and plays a significant role in ensuring that Kiwis have the best possible access to medicines,” says Mr Seymour. ...
Hundreds of New Zealand families affected by Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder (FASD) will benefit from a new Government focus on prevention and treatment, says Health Minister Dr Shane Reti. “We know FASD is a leading cause of preventable intellectual and neurodevelopmental disability in New Zealand,” Dr Reti says. “Every day, ...
Regional Development Minister Shane Jones today attended the official opening of Kaikohe’s new $14.7 million sports complex. “The completion of the Kaikohe Multi Sports Complex is a fantastic achievement for the Far North,” Mr Jones says. “This facility not only fulfils a long-held dream for local athletes, but also creates ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters’ engagements in Türkiye this week underlined the importance of diplomacy to meet growing global challenges. “Returning to the Gallipoli Peninsula to represent New Zealand at Anzac commemorations was a sombre reminder of the critical importance of diplomacy for de-escalating conflicts and easing tensions,” Mr Peters ...
Ambassador Millar, Burgemeester, Vandepitte, Excellencies, military representatives, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen – good morning and welcome to this sacred Anzac Day dawn service. It is an honour to be here on behalf of the Government and people of New Zealand at Buttes New British Cemetery, Polygon Wood – a deeply ...
Distinguished guests - It is an honour to return once again to this site which, as the resting place for so many of our war-dead, has become a sacred place for generations of New Zealanders. Our presence here and at the other special spaces of Gallipoli is made ...
Mai ia tawhiti pamamao, te moana nui a Kiwa, kua tae whakaiti mai matou, ki to koutou papa whenua. No koutou te tapuwae, no matou te tapuwae, kua honoa pumautia. Ko nga toa kua hinga nei, o te Waipounamu, o te Ika a Maui, he okioki tahi me o ...
Paul Goldsmith will take on responsibility for the Media and Communications portfolio, while Louise Upston will pick up the Disability Issues portfolio, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon announced today. “Our Government is relentlessly focused on getting New Zealand back on track. As issues change in prominence, I plan to adjust Ministerial ...
Recreational catch limits will be reduced in areas of Fiordland and the Chatham Islands to help keep those fisheries healthy and sustainable, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. The lower recreational daily catch limits for a range of finfish and shellfish species caught in the Fiordland Marine Area and ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed an important milestone in New Zealand’s hydrogen future, with the opening of the country’s first network of hydrogen refuelling stations in Wiri. “I want to congratulate the team at Hiringa Energy and its partners K one W one (K1W1), Mitsui & Co New Zealand ...
The coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to improve resource management laws and give greater certainty to consent applicants, with a Bill to amend the Resource Management Act (RMA) expected to be introduced to Parliament next month. RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop has today outlined the first RMA Amendment ...
Overseas models for regulating the oil and gas sector, including their decommissioning regimes, are being carefully scrutinised as a potential template for New Zealand’s own sector, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. The Coalition Government is focused on rebuilding investor confidence in New Zealand’s energy sector as it looks to strengthen ...
Emergency Management and Recovery Minister Mark Mitchell has today released the Report of the Government Inquiry into the response to the North Island Severe Weather Events. “The report shows that New Zealand’s emergency management system is not fit-for-purpose and there are some significant gaps we need to address,” Mr Mitchell ...
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith is today travelling to Europe where he’ll update the United Nations Human Rights Council on the Government’s work to restore law and order. “Attending the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva provides us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while ...
Associate Agriculture Minister, Mark Patterson, formally reopened the world’s largest wool processing facility today in Awatoto, Napier, following a $50 million rebuild and refurbishment project. “The reopening of this facility will significantly lift the economic opportunities available to New Zealand’s wool sector, which already accounts for 20 per cent of ...
Asia Pacific Report A West Papuan resistance leader has condemned the United Nations role in allowing Indonesia to “integrate” the Melanesian Pacific region in what is claimed to be an “egregious act of inhumanity” on 1 May 1963. In an open letter to UN Secretary-General António Guterres, Organisasi Papua Merdeka-OPM ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra A key part of the Albanese government’s political strategy is to fill the news cycle with its presence and messaging. Ministers are deployed to the maximum, even when they’ve little to say. This week ...
Recent extreme weather events showed the importance of a well-functioning insurance system, says Commerce and Consumer Affairs minister Andrew Bayly. ...
By Jo Moir, RNZ News political editor, and Craig McCulloch, deputy political editor New Zealand’s Labour Party is demanding Winston Peters be stood down as Foreign Minister for opening up the government to legal action over his “totally unacceptable” attack on a prominent AUKUS critic. In an interview on RNZ’s ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Christian Brakenridge, Postdoctoral research fellow at Swinburne University, Centre for Urban Transitions, Baker Heart and Diabetes Institute The Conversation, Gorodenkoff/Shutterstock People have a pretty intuitive sense of what is healthy – standing is better than sitting, exercise is great for overall ...
The Wellington-based Reserve Force soldier is now almost three years into his New Zealand Army career with 5th/7th Battalion, Royal New Zealand Infantry Regiment. ...
"The Government needs to release the review immediately as this reckless approach to change risks disjointed decision making and creates more distress and uncertainty for staff," Fitzsimons said. ...
By Koroi Hawkins, RNZ Pacific editor Jeremiah Manele has been elected Prime Minister of Solomon Islands, polling 31 votes to 18 over rival candidate and former opposition leader Mathew Wale with one abstention. The final result of the election by secret ballot was announced by the Governor-General, Sir David Vunagi, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Priestley Habru, PhD candidate, public diplomacy, University of Adelaide Former foreign minister Jeremiah Manele has been elected the next prime minister of Solomon Islands, defeating the opposition leader, Matthew Wale, in a vote in parliament. The result is a mixed bag for ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Shaun Eaves, Senior Lecturer in Physical Geography, Te Herenga Waka — Victoria University of Wellington Jamey Stutz, CC BY-SA How often do mountains collapse, volcanoes erupt or ice sheets melt? For Earth scientists, these are important questions as we try ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michael Flood, Professor of Sociology, Queensland University of Technology Shutterstock Most young adult men in Australia reject traditional ideas of masculinity that endorse aggression, stoicism and homophobia. Nonetheless, the ongoing influence of those ideas continues to harm men and the people ...
The NZQA proposal released to staff today would involve a net loss of 35 roles. There are 66 roles being disestablished with 13 of those currently vacant, and 31 new roles proposed, said Fleur Fitzsimons Public Service Association Te Pūkenga Here Tikanga ...
Alex Casey talks to Loren Taylor, the writer, director and star of new film The Moon is Upside Down, about assembling her dream ensemble cast, toilet paper pads and turning literal dreams into reality. There’s a moment in The Moon is Upside Down where frazzled anaesthetist Briar (Loren Taylor) gets ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Cassy Dittman, Senior Lecturer/Head of Course (Undergraduate Psychology), Research Fellow, Manna Institute, CQUniversity Australia With winter sports swinging into action, adults around the country have volunteered or been volunteered by others (humorously known as being “volun-told”) to coach junior sports teams. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Karleen Gribble, Adjunct Associate Professor, School of Nursing and Midwifery, Western Sydney University richardernestyap/Shutterstock Parents are often advised to burp their babies after feeding them. Some people think burping after feeding is important to reduce or prevent discomfort crying, or to ...
Workers at a major ASB contact centre in Auckland have voted to take strike action and withdraw their labour following disappointing pay negotiations with the employer and an "offer" to workers that would leave them worse off than the previous year. ...
As the government tries to get the country back on track with a school phone ban, Tara Ward has an idea for where they should turn their attention to next.New Zealand students returned to school on Monday morning, but their cellphones did not. The government’s new phone ban began ...
The Labour Party is demanding Peters be stood down, saying "he's embarrassed the country" with a "totally unacceptable" attack on a prominent AUKUS critic. ...
The Inter-Parliamentary Alliance, whose members were victims of a China-backed cyber attack, is discussing forming a standing committee to deal with foreign influence. ...
The PSA is concerned that the voluntary redundancies being offered to staff by Stats NZ will impact on the agency’s ability to deliver on its core functions. ...
Results ranged from surprisingly yum to soul-destroying. I love cooking. The kitchen is a hearth of culinary creation, of sensory delights, of gastronomic poetry. I also can’t afford anything nice. Why does a pack of instant noodles and some milk cost ten bucks? I love you, Aotearoa, but I miss ...
By Koroi Hawkins, RNZ Pacific editor Police in Solomon Islands are on high alert ahead of the election of the prime minister today. The two candidates for the top job are former foreign affairs minister Jeremiah Manele at the head of the Coalition for National Unity and Transformation, which is ...
He’s fine but it feels like I’m losing a friend and it’s making me bitter. How do I say ‘enough is enough’? Want Hera’s help? Email your problem to helpme@thespinoff.co.nzHey Hera,I’ve recently moved in with a girlfriend, her partner Steve, and his friend. We all live in a lovely little house. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Nick Chartres, Senior Research Fellow, Faculty of Medicine & Health, University of Sydney shutterstockAhmet Misirligul/Shutterstock You go to the gym, eat healthy and walk as much as possible. You wash your hands and get vaccinated. You control your health. This is ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jacqueline Hendriks, Research Fellow and Lecturer, Curtin University Children and young people may be seeing news headlines about men murdering women or footage of people rallying to call for action. Perhaps they or their friends have even gone to the protests. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jessica Balanzategui, Senior Lecturer in Media, RMIT University ABC “Bluey mania” shows no sign of abating. Bluey’s season finale, The Sign, was the most viewed ABC program of all time on iView. A “hidden” follow-up episode, aptly named The Surprise, created ...
Labour market figures came in softer than the Reserve Bank had forecast, but they won’t be enough to move the needle on interest rates, writes Catherine McGregor in this excerpt from The Bulletin, The Spinoff’s morning news round-up. To receive The Bulletin in full each weekday, sign up here. Unemployment ...
The campaign will engage the community and encourage submissions on the bill to the New Zealand government by the closing submission deadline of Friday 31st of May 2024 4pm. ...
The paper raises concerns about declining trust in New Zealand's political institutions and democratic processes, and the role that the overuse of Parliamentary urgency plays in that. ...
The Urban Habitat Collective was an attempt to built an innovative new form of apartment building in Wellington. Here’s why it failed, and why the idea could still work, writes co-founder Bronwen Newton. When we started the Urban Habitat Collective in November 2018, we thought we were starting a revolution, ...
Two decades ago this week, a controversial law that attempted to define ownership of the foreshore and seabed prompted a formidable display of outrage and kōtahitanga as 15,000 marched to parliament. Jamie Tahana looks back.‘Hīkoi, hīkoi,” they chanted by the thousands as the biggest Māori march in a generation ...
A Labour Party Member’s Bill aims to plug a culpability gap between manslaughter and health and safety breaches The post New push for corporate killing laws appeared first on Newsroom. ...
Terence O’Brien had the rare and no doubt undesired distinction of rising to one of the most exalted positions in New Zealand diplomacy, then being unceremoniously recalled to Wellington without explanation just when his career was at its zenith. What is perhaps more surprising is that he appears to have ...
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Why has New Zealand slipped from third to 12th on Quality of Death Indexes over the past decade or so? Hospice New Zealand Chief Executive Wayne Naylor has a list of reasons. “We don’t have a current national strategy – the Government hasn’t renewed our 2001 strategy, so we don’t ...
While women’s sport is exploding in Aotearoa and around the world, you still don’t hear a lot of talk about athletes and their periods, RED-S, breastfeeding and visible panty-lines. SASS (Suze and Sez Sports)Talk isn’t afraid to have that kōrero.LockerRoom founder Suzanne McFadden and Olympian broadcaster Sarah ...
On an unusually hot night in January 2019, a little boy’s lifeless body was found face up in a small town’s sewage oxidation pond. To the police, it was an open and shut case: three-year-old Lachlan Jones had run away from his home in the Southland town of Gore, climbed ...
Rongotai MP Julie Anne Genter has apologised in Parliament after National accused her of intimidating and attacking one of its ministers in the House. ...
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Sir Robert devoted his life to disability rights after living in institutions in his younger years, says Kaihautū Tika Hauātanga | Disability Rights Commissioner Prudence Walker. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Anastasia Powell, Professor, Family and Sexual Violence, RMIT University Violence against women is not a women’s problem to solve, it is a whole of society problem to solve; and men in particular have to take responsibility. Those were the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jessica Allen, Senior Lecturer in Chemical and Renewable Energy Engineering, University of Newcastle Snapshot freddy/ShutterstockPlans to revive an old coal-fired power station using bioenergy are being considered in the Hunter region of New South Wales. Similar plans for the station ...
Responding to the long-awaited release of judges’ special allowances, including free air travel and hotels for spouses, generous sabbaticals, and access to limousines, Taxpayers’ Union spokesman Alex Murphy said: “In what world does your employer ...
So signing the TPP will mean that we cannot control the ownership of New Zealand by foreign speculators.
Just another reason why this ‘free trade’ treaty would be a disaster for everyone in New Zealand except the 1%. And guess who controls the media?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11487258
Just more proof that the TPPA isn’t a ‘free-trade’ agreement but a takeover of the nations by the corporations and the rich.
We gain no benefit allowing foreign ownership in NZ but we do lose a lot.
Except Zanu-PF in Zimbabwe used to think the same way you do. Now they are positively begging for foreign investors as they haven’t got any money of their own.
http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/news/zimsit_w_govt-begs-for-foreign-investment-the-zimbabwe-independent/
http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/news/zimsit-m-majority-denounces-indiginisation-in-favour-of-foreign-investment-report/
Their problem isn’t money but their failure to use their own money to utilise their resources. Foreign investment would fail there as well and for the same reasons – a small group of people taking too much for themselves.
They tried doing what you suggested. They destroyed their currency and were forced to use other nations money. That is where YOUR policies lead to Draco. It is inevitable. Why do you think Venezuela is about to experience hyper-inflation now?
You really are full of it Gosman. The only reason we ‘need’ foreign investment is so the country can continue paying the dividends on existing foreign investment.
If NZ didn’t have a current account deficit we wouldn’t need foreign investment and if the country hadn’t taken in so much foreign investment in the past we wouldn’t have a current account deficit.
Foreign investment does nothing for this country. Its only real achievement has been to drive up asset prices which makes the country less competitive in world markets.
Why do you think the Zimbabwe regime changed it’s tune in relation to foreign investment? What possible reason would they have to go from an anti-instment position to one in which they are positively begging that people invest there?
Zimbabwe isn’t NZ and the two economies are not even remotely similar so why are you bringing it up?
Because it is the concepts expressed (and actually enacted in Zimbabwe’s case) which are common. Zimbabwe used to think they could do away with pesky foreign investment. They used their Monetary system in the way that Draco T Bastard believes it can be used here (i.e. they printed money to fund critical inputs in industry and farming). They drove away foreign capital and relied on their domestic base to support devlopment initiatives. This according to your logic should lead to wonderous outcomes. However only a few short years later we see the same Politicians begging for Foreign investors to come back. I find that fascinating don’t you?
That’s complete nonsense. Zimbabwe printed money without creating, buying or building assets to back that new money. Of course they suffered hyper-inflation.
They want foreign investment now primarily because their own money has no value on the international markets and they can’t import enough to keep them going.
NZ is nothing like Zimbabawe, and Zimbabwes problems have nothing whatsoever to do with foreign investment, so why are you bringing it up?
You are quite wrong. Zimbabwe printed money for the express aim of attempting to support their productive sector and to enable them to fund critical government spending such as civil service salaries and pensions. Do you not think support for civil servants and pensions is valuable spending?
Stop talking crap Gosman. Even a first year economics student should know that money creation without wealth creation causes inflation.
Zimbabwes troubles are entirely down to corruption, something most of the educated world knows. Foreign investment won’t help them, that will merely prolong the agony and let the crooks loot the nation’s wealth a little longer.
No, Zimbabwe’s problem is that they have a Government that thinks it is the job of government to create (or at least direct the creation of) wealth and that they can help their ‘people’ by using the auspices of State power to do so. In that regard they are very typical to your average leftist on this blog.
Gosman simply uses the phrase “Zimbabwe” as a discussion stopper.
As an example it is irrelevant to NZ.
NZ can clearly afford to spend more on its people and its capabilities, Gossie is just trying to hide an inconvenient fact that political decisions have been made not to.
Nah you don’t know shit about Zimbabwe government political economics.
I think you will find that they created money to repay overseas debt – odious debt at that. They had no alternative. I think also that Zimbabwe was “punished” for pursuing land policies which the lending countries disliked.
“I think you will find that they created money to repay overseas debt – ”
That’s not really possible mikesh. You can only print your own sovereign money and printing more just makes it worth less in foreign exchange. Overseas creditors would have needed to have their debt denominated in local currency for that to work and that’s not likely
Zimbabwe literally printed screeds of new money, they ended up with zillion whatever notes that were near worthless.
Your argument is completely flaw Zimbabwe is under the control of a facist racist completely Corrupt Dictator.
No one will invest in that country .
Gooseman your a complete Dickhead.
Probably one of the 5 eyed spies paid to undermine constructive debate.
Your arguments are never rational or backed by hard facts.
You are paid purely to disrupt.
Funny how you always resort to developing nations or undeveloped nations with existing massive problems before they tried social policies for your examples, instead of successful Northern European social democracies.
The Northern European Social Democracies are the ones that are attempting to enforce austerity style policies on countries like Greece because they understand you can’t spend your way to prosperity.
But you’re the one saying we need foreign investment Gosman. Greece are in trouble because they have too much foreign investment and now they can’t pay the dividends on it.
Make up your mind man!
Gosman, like most RWNJs, doesn’t appear to have a mind.
Irrelevant chanting of catch phrases Gossie.
Germany wants to subjugate Greece as an example to other countries and other voters in the EU. It is a raw exercise of power as a warning to European democracies who think they can run their own affairs independent of Brussels.
The Greeks were probably mugs to join the Eurozone in the first place.
However they were managing OK until financial assistance dried up as a result of the GFC. Who caused the GFC, Mr Gosman?
Mikesh Greece was fucked over by Goldman Sachs corrupting both right and left politicians wineing and Dining them on luxury super yatchs owned by non taxpaying super rich oliagarchs filling their Swiss bank accounts.
Then Goldman Sachs corrupted the Ratings Agencies to then defraud the Big European Banks of €100s of billions.
Now Greece is being forced to pay interest on printed Ponzi money $1.4 trillion being printed now by the ECB.
While Goldman Sachs and their corrupt ratings Agencies,Corrupted Center right and Center left politicians .
Goldman Sachs has not had to pay a single cent in reperation or face Jail time for this massive fraud that was exposed only after 2 senior Goldman Sachs officials blew the whistle.
Goldman Sachs and their Oliagarchs corrupt mates are still reaping massive amounts of money as the Greek economy gets screwed over as govt assets were flogged off at firesale price’s.
ie.the Greek govt owned lottery was sold for€1billion when it true worth was between €6 and€10 billion.
Sold by the same corrupt politicians.
So why are Northern European countries printing $1.4 trillion dollars.
Gooseman.
You are a fringe fundamentalist ACT supporter.
No they didn’t. If they did then their economy would be working.
Yep, they did. They printed money with little to no restriction and while giving the productive land to the favoured few who then failed to use that land thus losing production.
Yep Gossie doesn’t even understand the basics of supply and demand.
Zimbabwe failed to invest the money it created in capabilities to create the valuable goods and services that would create a demand for payment in their currency.
Hyper inflation set in because Zimbabwe did the reverse – it destroyed the nation’s ability to produce valuable goods and services, setting up an environment where there was lots of supply of the currency and no demand = hyperinflation.
you really do talk nonsense.
From Fran O’Sullivan’s article
“If there was ever a project in the economic sphere that exemplifies an effective partnership between United States hard power and New Zealand soft power it is TPP, the Trans Pacific Partnership.”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11487222
It does concern me that Tim Groser has such a personal interest in seeing the TPPA signed that he will be seduced by the influence of the US flattery and not see the real “end game” of those who have hijacked the process.
The bypassing of a state’s judicial system by the Investor State Dispute Settlement process, (originally designed to provide protection for corporations investing in 3rd world countries with dodgy judicial systems) is only being pushed by those who will abuse the system.
“E moe ana te mata hī tuna, ara ana te mata hī taua.
Though the eyes of the eel fisher might be closed in sleep, the eyes of the sentry are always awake.” (Reed Book of Māori Proverbs)
Please remind Tim that he is the sentry for Aotearoa, not the eel fisher.
On Morning Report the Canadian was suggesting that Canada may pull out because of the risks to their sovereignty. Perhaps the Canadians have “more guts.”
Or perhaps the inefficient Canadian Dairy industry has disproportiate influence in the political system over there. I love the fact that you lefties make common cause with the Canadian Dairy indusrty. It would be like if Big Tobacco was opposed to the TPPA and you were cheering them on.
Canada was shafted by the US-Canada FTA and NAFTA, Wheat and Grain farmers went to the wall (a very good friend of mine was a grain farmer there and his family had been on the land since the early 18th C – subsidized corn from the US destroyed their livelihood as it is doing to farmers around the world, and they can see the same happening for dairy. Canada has every reason to want to can this TPPA deal.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/supply-management-in-canada-why-politicians-defend-farm-marketing-boards-1.3166329
If you want to see a good example about how Canada was sold down the river for USA benefit read the book or watch the movie The Arrow the story of how Canada’s Fighter Aircraft was destroyed on orders of their Prime Minister and all their plans designs etc were shipped to a USA.
Amazing story of how Canada was forced to kowtow to USA
Gossie thinks corporations should be allowed to exercise unlimited power while sovereign states should be constrained in every way possible. In other words, Gossie is promoting crony corporatocracy (with superficial trimmings of democracy) as his favoured form of rule.
Yet another example of the elite of a nation selling out their fellow countrymen.
CBC’s “The Arrow”
Oh yes I know all about Black Friday. Friday, February 20th, 1959 is known as Black Friday in Canadian aviation, 52,000 workers lost their jobs, one of them was a good friend who remembers the day full well. I saw what was left of the Arrow last year when I visited the Canadian National Aeronautical Museum in Ottawa. It was an impressive aircraft – but suddenly outmoded with the advent of the space race. Much of the technology found its way into the Concord etc.
For those unfamiliar with the story – se here:
http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/benchtalk/4438619/Black-Friday–The-Avro-Arrow-tragedy
You can read the same thing about the TS2. Light years ahead of anyone, Australia was going to buy it but was “persuaded by the Yanks to buy that swing wing heap of shit called the F111. Like the Canadian’s were forced to but an American Missile that never worked.
Wilson needed support from America to get an IMF loan. The plane was scrapped broken up and within a few weeks the only flying airframe was taken to a firing range for target practice. Bloody disgusting the Yanks don’t like other countries getting ahead with technology that could threaten their armaments industry.
Wilson the fucking prat also at the same time cancelled a supersonic version of the Harrier jump jet. The ironic bit about all this, it cost the British and Australian tax payers more money (don’t know actual figures though I have heard double) by cancelling the TSR2 and going for that heap of unreliable crap called the F111
That was the problem with the British aircraft Industry too many fucking prat politicians who did not know how to fix a fucking bike let alone the complexities of the aircraft industry that over the years fucked the great industry it was once.
Sir Sydney Cam designer of the Hurricane and Hunter “I think” said the
TSR2 had four dimensions length, width, height and politics. It got the first three right.
Or that all socialism is the same as Venezuela Gooseman.
You have spun your self into several holes today gooseman.
ie Northern European countries don’t spend their way to prosperity yeah rightright you are just a spin artist /BS
+100 Paul and DTB
TPP will lead to:
weakened environmental law
privatisation of water reticulation and community owned lines companies
weakened labour law (companies sue the government for increasing minimum wage and expanding sick leave)
higher power prices
privatisation of health and education
privatisation of what is left of our SOE’s
Free trade has lead to nothing but unemployment and misery of thousands of people all so we can buy cheap iPads at harvey normans.
Mr Peters has surpassed Mr Little in the preferred PM polling. Is it a good omen for a future Labour-New Zealand First coalition?
Don’t worry about it, the respected Mr Little is merely biding his time in the lead up to the next election because like a good sportsperson you don’t want to peak too early
Certainly the elephant in the room, and glossed over once-lightly here at TS. Looking at the stats when the previous leaders were rolled, and now slipping into 3rd place Little should be worried (although not surprised as his electorate rejected him also). Trouble is that Labour cannot afford yet another change in leader, so it’s fingers crossed to 2017. He is going to get drubbing in the House this week, and Winston will lap it up.
Anything that puts NZF in a stronger bargaining position is not good for Labour, or the Nats for that matter. But in Labour’s case, Winston would be pushing strongly for Deputy PM which would certainly ruffle a few cardies.
Couldnt resist this one
News -Sacking Serco is still an option -PM
“Get some guts NZ BLAH BLAH
Betcha they don’t get sacked.
Nats will probably employ the charter school model and give them more money, so to give the poor prisoners a better chance.
My monies on the contract being such that even if they want to sack SERCO it’ll cost the taxpayer.
SERCO are experts at this type of situation as their business model is built on it.
I heard on radio this morning Serco has not even received a first written warning yet. What is it going to take?
Can i post yet?
[Yep, just took you out of moderation. TRP]
Looks like the Venezuelan Socialist experiment is heading the same brutal totalitarian way as all the other efforts at creating a Socialist ‘paradise’.
http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/political-protesters-are-left-to-rot-in-venezuelas-secretive-underground-prison/story-fnu2pycd-1227457672139
Exactly like laws enacted in the US… or Guantanamo Bay ….
I see the news services, owned by some of the richest corporations in the world who all make donations to US and UK and other political parties, have ramped up their one-eyed reporting on Venezuela recently again. Like Cuba all over.
You shouldn’t believe everything you read in the paper gosman. The people who own the papers have heavily vested political interests.
I’m well aware of media bias thank you very much. What I am interested in is the facts and whether they point towards a particular discernable trend.
What is quite clear from Venezuela is that the facts on the ground (Price controls, Shortages, Increased government powers, crack down on dissent) all point towards the same sort of outcome that most experiments in trying to implement Socialism end at.
Which of the facts do you dispute? Do you deny shortages exist in Venezuela? Do you deny price controls have been implemented there? Do you deny the Government is now forcing farmers to sell to State owned stores as a matter of priority? Do you deny Opposition politicians and protestors are being arrested and thrown in to prison? Do myou deny that the Government is not even recording (or at least reporting) key statistics such as inflation?
Until I see independent presentation of facts, yes I do dispute them.
The reason is that of media bias, which I explained to you, and you acknowledged, yet then continued to ignore.
Why do you believe what you read in the media given you have acknowledged media bias and extreme conflict of interest?
Why do you ignore the facts of the situation? Even the Venezuelan Government grudgingly admits that the situation is not good. Hence why they have implemented such drastic steps as what they did with farmers last week.
What is happening there is entirely predictable as I have pointed out. Have a read of this article. It points out how these sorts of situations play out.
http://coppolacomment.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/a-latin-american-tragedy.html
The only thing you have ever pointed out is how incredibly ill informed and fixated you are with Venezuela and Zimbabwe
Takes a special kind of stupid to keep reiterating your level of ignorance
If you dispute my facts point out others that paint a different picture then. Do you have evidence that Venezuela’s inflation is not increasing?
Listen up peanut.
Confining yourself inside such narrow parmeters stunts personal development and ensures you come across like a twat
Many here are interested in the welbeing of humanity and the planet, which is clearly outside your remit
So take your piss weak standard gossip point trollling, and jam it.
So from continuous corrupt right wing murderous facist dictatorships to a left wing dictatorship .
Gooseman once again you have done no research just pushed your handlers propaganda using a little bit of the picture and adding BS to make your story line.
Maduro is in his last legs. He will be overthrown in a not so distant future, and Venezuela’s socialist nightmare, read poverty and misery, will come to an end.
You mean the poverty and misery will return again under a right-wing Government, that looks after the super rich first and foremost and ensures America has access to Venezuelan oil exports again.
If true then the question is why did Maduro fail to protect these people?
Because the US has been undermining Venezuela, and, like many countries, oil wealth and underdevelopment has lead to corruption.
You are so right but the tradgedy is 40% of Venezuela is Controlled by drug Cartels who getting rich of the US war on drugs policy.
So what happens when Maduro goes.
Nothing is going to change anyone who takes power and tries to stamp out corruption and take back the streets that the cartels control will be assassinated pronto.
The Key strategy.
1. Say that should information gathered by the foreign tax ID show there was a problem the government might act to restrict offshore buy up.
That is deliberately prevaricate on the issue waiting for TPP (which would ban blocks on foreign ownership) to prevent this option and end debate on it.
2. Forced to admit that TPP would block action to prevent foreign buy up, he changes strategy to suggest a possible stamp duty on foreign buyers of residential property. He notes Oz does this (untrue their stamp duty applies for everyone).
But the free trade deal with China already states that their investors must have the same tax rules as local investors. Thus we either have a stamp duty on all foreign buyers but the Chinese, or we apply it on local investors as well. Neither is plausible so again the prevarication until we have lost sovereignty on the issue and can then do nothing – it being beyond our control.
You have no evidence that the TPPA will ban restrictions on Foreign ownership. It isn’t even discussed in the details that have been leaked so far. If you honestly think nations such as Japan and the US (Not to mention Malaysia and Singapore will allow a free for all on FDI I think you are very much mistaken and don’t understand the political realities that exist in each of these nations.
Read the comments of the PM (ignoring his confusion between offshore buyers and residents like Cameron).
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11487258
After numerous news reports like this one.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/exclusive-tpp-will-prevent-ban-on-foreign-ownership-q02778
Given we have referendums when there is an impact on our constitutional framework – why is there no call for, or expectation of, a referendum to mandate the TPP?
Matthew Hooton blithely announcing on TPPA that if NZ wanted to walk away from TPPA, all that would be needed is six months notice. Easy peasy how he tells it.
True?? If so what would be the fallout? There would be sure to be costs through penalties of different sorts.
@freedom snap. And I didn’t notice Mike Williams offering seasoned advice on this point.
Then it would be easy for Labour to simply leave TPP 6 months after being elected.
The best time to return after leaving would be when the tariffs on dairy come to an end in 20 years time. By then we may have sorted out Auckland housing and farming economics. And the problem of affording super – made easier by not having Pharmac costs balloon out.
I assume that will be Labour’s policy, if in fact the deal is signed and ratified by the next election, which I doubt – but Groser is confident so I could be wrong.
You stated, on Radio NZ earlier today, that NZ could walk away from the TPPA after giving six months notice.
On what facts particular to the TPPA did you base your statement?
Why do you think he is wrong on this point? The same pretty much applies to every other international agreement NZ is part of. Even Climate change agreements can be ditched by any party to the agreement. What enforcement mechanism exists to keep us in CER for example?
Who said he’s wrong?
It seems to be a reasonable request for information as to where one can get details about the TPPA.
You might say other agreements have reasonable exit clauses, but that’s just inductive reasoning applied to a particularly incompetent government. The Eurozone does not seem to have exit mechanisms, for example.
The Eurozone doesn’t have a FORMAL exit mechanism. There would have been nothing stopping Greece from leaving it though. The issue is whether it would have impacted their membership of the EU as well given the requirements stipulated in that organisation. They could still have left though.
Talking out of another hole in your arse?
I’m amazed you think it’s acceptable to make up unilateral ad hoc exit procedures from international agreements. Perhaps we should name this Gossie’s Law?
So I guess the question can be rephrased (especially for you, gos) “What basis does Hooten have for believing that there are formal mechanisms to leave the TPPA with ‘six months notice’?”
Furthermore, one could also ask “If Hooten used the phrase ‘walk away’, does that mean that he knows that those formal mechanisms would involve trivial impact based on requirements stipulated in the TPPA, and what basis does he have for believing that?”
Hooton is downplaying concerns as if it is as easy as pie up and opting out. It won’t be. Your barking mad if you think multi national conglomerates are going to let us off the hook once signed in.
The corporates would send in the US Navy with guns pointing at the Beehive if we dare break the TPPA ranks.
As McFlock mentions, it was a reasonable request given the unambiguous nature of Mr Hooton’s statement on RNZ
maybe you missed it Gosman, jump to 23:20
http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/201763979
You don’t seem to realise how International agreements work. They are generally via consensual agreement of all parties. Enforcement of agreements therefore can only be via the same way. The worst that could happen is that another party or parties to the agreement could impose some sanction on NZ but they could do that now. For example there is nothing stopping the US from imposing a trade embargo on us like they do with Cuba.
Really? Then why don’t they?
The question is not how other agreements work, it is how the TPPA works.
Yet, ad nauseam, you ignore the reality of that circumstance.
The reality which says: we do not know how the TPPA will work because the terms are secret.
You have no clue about the TPPA’s structure! How do I know this? Simple deductive logic.
The structure is a form you can not know because it has not been shown to you. It has not been shown to any of us.
Or to put it another way…
It is the client being asked to sign off final plans of their new house, sight unseen, after being told by the architect via a scratchy toll call from overseas, that it’s a beautiful home and it sort of looks like that one down by #7 with bits of #32 from round the corner thrown on top. The architect’s steadfast assurance how the plans will be posted to you offers little in the way of consolation, since their delivery is not scheduled for several years after you take occupancy.
but you know all of this already
which leaves us in familiar territory, pondering the point of your disingenuous discussion
and feeling a little sad at your desperation to follow the lies regardless the cost to your own intellectual dignity
Yes there is. This would be illegal under WTO rules.
That doesn’t stop a country doing it. All the WTO rules allow is if a country is found to be in breach the wronged party can impose counter sanctions.
Hooton would not have access to the text of the TPPA, so he is just acting as a repeater of someone elses opinion.
Yes no doubt. He reminds me of an old popular song Little Sir Echo how do you do.
I made the point that we can learn from what has happened to other signees, learn and beware.
I couldn’t resist looking on google. Just everything is there = and what did I find the Wiggles singing the song. One of the singers even looks a wee bit like Hooton.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QacxZBaL3w_)
Why do you think countries would not be allowed to leave? That is certainly not how other international agreements tend to work.
lol “tend to”.
You’re speaking out of a hole in your arse.
Read my post above and answer the following question – What is stopping the US from imposing Trade sanctions on us at the moment?
So you know fuck all about international relations.
The president might have limited powers to impose sanctions via executive order (although declaring us an enemy under the war powers act might be viewed as a tad OTT by the rest of the world, or even within the US).
But then if the TPPA is signed having had the fast-track from congress, there might be enabling clauses that ease the path for fines and sanctions should we withdraw. Penalties if we back out. Powers for international bodies or the executive that don’t apply until we’re in the TPPA. A bit like how I’m not liable for a bond until I sign a lease for a room, but after that I might lose the bond if I break the lease early.
It “might” have any of these things. Except that it doesn’t.
The TPP is being signed in secret.
It was dishonest of you to say what you did.
But then you are in marketing and pr.
When does telling the truth come first in that profession?
So you have read the TPPA Mathew .
Tell us moron this before we are subjugated.
Tell us only Dairy is being opened up while the rest of our agricultural exports won’t be included.our broadband won’t be regulated.
Pharmac undermined by a few sneeky clauses,that our businesses and govt won’t be sued.
Like not letting our agriculture exports have free access to their market Goose brain.
Yes Gosman. Events in Greece prove that, don’t they?
You are wilfully ignorant I hope.
Matthew Hooton has just stated on Radio NZ that if we sign up to the TPPA and decide it is not really a good fit, NZ only has to give six months notice and it can withdraw from the TPPA.
Since the terms of the TPPA are secret and will remain so for years after signing them off, anyone else interested on what evidence does he base such a definitive statement?
The deafening silence from the host of course, was expected. Can’t have journalists asking their guests to validate their statements can we.
(snap ! good to know others heard it too)
jump to 23:20
http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/201763979
He sounds very clear on his understanding of the facts, so he should have no trouble proving them
I have looked up google on withdrawing from the TPPA and found this as one statement from Catherine Beard Executive Director Export NZ. from 16 Nov 2013.
“Some say this agreement is going to sign away our sovereignty forever. Really? We suspect that TPP will, like all our agreements to date, contain a standard termination clause.
The most recently signed agreement, with Taiwan, says the following: “This agreement shall remain in force until one party gives written notice of its intention to terminate it, in which case this agreement shall terminate 180 days after the date of this notice of termination.”
How can an agreement that can be terminated bind us irreparably as some are suggesting?
Others warn about the evils of compulsory investor state dispute settlement. We have had such clauses in FTAs and Bilateral Investment Treaties for years. Have we ever been sued?”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11158022
Me: I know other countries have been sued. Are we not able to learn from others experience??
Confucius:
By three methods we may learn wisdom:
First, by reflection, which is noblest;
Second, by imitation, which is easiest;
and third by experience, which is the bitterest.
http://thinkexist.com/quotation/by_three_methods_we_may_learn_wisdom-first-by/10494.html
I really wonder about apparently intelligent people who state
because B says ‘x’ and F says ‘x’ that automatically means ‘y’ will be the same.
Let’s compare the deal to a contemporary employment contract. Do people blindly assume the new contract will be the same as their last contract, (regardless of what area of the economy that last job might have been in) or do people want to read the new contract before agreeing to it?
So, under the new H&S law, who looks out for this guy?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/70564947/workplace-accident-at-pike-river-mine-site
“A Solid Energy spokesman said the company still had about five employees working at the site. The injured man was not a Solid Energy employee.”
I’m guessing he was a contractor. Or if he was the owner, did he have the appropriate training to be undertaking such work?
“The new owner had been on site organising the removal of the bathhouse, but it was unknown whether it was the owner who was injured or someone working for him.,”
Nothing has changed. The dead, the grieving and the victims of workplace injury have been betrayed by Key’s broken promise.
Serco: From John Palethorpe on Public Adress.
“Only 10% of Serco’s fee is performance-related and penalties for failing to effectively manage the prison cannot exceed 10% quarterly or annually. So, for their $30,000,000 a year, are New Zealanders getting the effective service they deserve?”
I guess that Serco has a pretty good deal going with relatively little to loose.
Dmitry Orlov looking at the collapse of the US economy from a background of the collapse of the Soviet Union. (28 min video)
“The Walmart (The Warehouse) model is basically how to go bankrupt when you can no longer go deeper into debt. That’s the Walmart model. You take everybody’s job, you offshore it, you flood the local market with imports and wait for everybody to go bankrupt so you can close the Walmart, and nothing’s left.”
Very interesting take on things, focused on self sufficiency. We are currently looking at an organic glasshouse to cut down on nasty supermarket veg which will only become less edible and more expensive when GMO’s start kicking in with this TPPA nightmare.
Nice, would love to do something similar if I had the land. It’s very satisfying growing your own food and I think for a lot of people the best thing is knowing you’re getting it for free! I’m looking forward to the vegetable revolt in coming years, where everyone goes stuff this I’m growing my own or getting them from my neighbour.
@maui
That Walmart model, that is a really good analogy of what the global oligarchs seem to be working on. What is it called in an actual war – scorched earth treatment? Or you could say is take what you want then poison the wells.
http://www.rt.com/news/310803-juice-news-trump-migrants/
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/columnists/70382467/karl-du-fresne-can-nicky-hager-really-be-called-a-journalist
http://karldufresne.blogspot.co.nz/2015/07/savaged-by-goldfish-again.html
Talk about walking into the lions den
More BS from the MSM. Better off staring at a blank wall……As for lions more tired old journo pussycats…..
Oh noes, perhaps du Fresne wants to try and get him struck off the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists then.
From Karl:
And from the wikipedia definition:
Perhaps Hager should fire himself for doing his job too well.
How silly can Karl be? His definition of journalist wipes out most “journalists” in MSM. Including Karl. His column seems to be attempting to do a good job for your mates who currently run Government, by diminishing the standing of a highly regarded international journalist in Nicky. Shame on him.
@ianmac
+1
The dimwitted Karl du Fresne has blundered into our crosshairs before….
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-07082011/#comment-361364
Jane Bowron’s column in today’s press is a scathing indictment of the government.
The Serco debacle, Sky city’s latest cynical PR attempt, the so called ‘merciless’ Paul Henry and his sycophantic weekly chats with the Prime Minister and his campaign to bring back Judith Collins to replace the incompetent Sam Lottowhatever, reminding us that Collins brought us Serco in the first place and was also responsible for overcrowding in prisons causing an “escalation in violence”.
Perhaps the best part is her summary:
“It’s hard to find this Government actually doing much governing,
outsourcing state responsibilities to the private sector in a bogus private and
public job share.”
Great to see a columnist/journo speaking out and telling it like it is.Fair,balanced and unafraid but I wonder if her contract will soon be under review.
Certainly worth a read (page A7)
I think theres the right and then theres the far “wacky” right his government represents.
Even these conservative news outlets may be under threat of censorship and becoming irrelevant. Maybe they are finally waking up to this fact.
Here’s the link
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/columnists/70552595/bowron-running-our-prisons-like-a-monty-python-skit
I posted this above in relation to Venezuela but as it details exactly why leftists economic thinking leads to inevitable collapse I’ll do so again here.
http://coppolacomment.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/a-latin-american-tragedy.html
So if neo liberal economic theory is so good why is the US 18 trillion in debt, expected to blow out to 25 million? I don’t think you need go further than that.
As to Venezuela the US has its panties in a knot because its color revolution model was not transferable from the Ukraine and now the government there is China’s biggest arms buyer and a military/economic partner. Worse still it had the cheek to tell the Yanks to sod off. Outrageous!
You forgot that the Venezuelan economy is currently collapsing.
The capitalist class are working hard to disrupt and isolate Venezuela. The US has wanted Venezuela back in the grip of the financial elite since Chavez took over. They are willing to cause suffering to millions in order to get their profits.
+1
You forgot the US ecomony has already collapsed, Gossip
Hey, I know. Tell us all again about those ‘lazy socialist Greeks’ who are ‘ getting what they deserve’
Or you could just bugger off
Come on then smarty pants enlighten the boards
Tell us all what is required to get the planets financial death spiral levelled out
Or at least let us know where your fetish originates from
Who gets the smart pants award? There are more people than you who contribute to this blog Blue Horsesho.
Your already low credibility is not in any way improved by your linking to such an addle-pated blog.
I suspect you know next to nothing about the situation in Venezuela, and that you have not actually read anything. Fox News and the Murdoch press is no substitute for serious reading. I have counselled you on this several times, but you are still wasting our time by presenting idiotic fare like this Coppola woman’s moronic site.
Why are you here instead of settling down with a whole lot of books?
I doubt Gosman reads.
Just watches FOX news and listens to ZB
Sad how people can be so easily deluded.
You are obsessed with Zimbabwe and Venezuela.
How life been for ordinary people in Ukraine, Libya, Iraq, Indonesia, Guatemala and other countries since right wing fascists took over their country and imposed the neo- liberal market nightmare on those countries?
“So, y’know, but, uh, Matthew’s quite right…”
Hooton walks all over a weak and vacillating Mike Williams, yet again
Politics, Radio NZ National, Monday 27 July 2015, 11:08 AM
Kathryn Ryan, Matthew Hooton, Mike Williams
Surely—SURELY—there are better representatives of “the left” than Paul Holmes’s old classmate Mike “I agree with Matthew” Williams. A few years back, on this same program, Matthew Hooton was regularly shown up by the likes of Andrew Campbell, Laila Harré and Sue Bradford. Hooton is not at all articulate when he is confronted by a brighter person; the clear superiority of Campbell, Harré and Bradford meant that he was often left with no option other than withdrawing in to a sullen, resentful silence.
Against an opponent less sharp, however, Hooton will run amok. He regularly got the better of the absurdly over-polite CTU economist Peter Harris, and he would do the same with Josie Pagani too, if she ever dared to do anything other than agree with every word he snarls out.
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-27022012/#comment-441009
And that’s the problem with the former Labour Party president Mike Williams—a lack of fire, and an almost pathetic eagerness to find common ground with one of the most cynical National Party operatives in the country. Today, Williams actually bestirred himself on a couple of occasions to say something in contradiction to Hooton, but he was hopelessly diffident and pretty much ineffective.
Here’s a brief rush transcript of the lowlights of today’s awful, awful show….
MIKE WILLIAMS: … but I just can’t see a justification for private prisons.
MATTHEW HOOTON: But that’s your ideological position.
MIKE WILLIAMS: [in a desperate, put-upon tone] But it’s been proven to be CORRECT!
In the absence of any more substantial comeback from Williams, Hooton now takes the opportunity to embark on a lengthy, wandery rant against the “ideological” Labour Party…..
MATTHEW HOOTON: [speaking slowly and sententiously, so as to convey impression of deep thoughtfulness] … The opponents of this are ideological…. the profound hypocrisy of people who have this profound obsession with ownership of things.
MIKE WILLIAMS: It’s the Minister of Corrections who I felt sorry for. I think he does a good job. ….[He bores on unconvincingly, accompanied by approving grunts from Hooton, who no doubt cannot believe how easy this is.]
…….
KATHRYN RYAN: This drive by Bill English to bring competition to areas where it is not necessarily there. Like gambling addiction services…
MATTHEW HOOTON: ….the halfwits in the Labour Party. …. stupid policies. …. so half-witted that Labour is going nowhere in the polls.
……..
MIKE WILLIAMS: Matthew and I have both taken advantage of rising Auckland house prices in the last three months!
MATTHEW HOOTON: [conspiratorially snickering] Heh heh!
……..
The last topic is the TPPA. Once again, it’s Hooton that does nearly all the talking….
MATTHEW HOOTON: There’s one thing about all this, there’s a fundamental point that Jane Kelsey will never tell you is that a future government can always withdraw from the TPPA. …. The TPPA would put a stop to some things. For example, if a future government prepared to seize all houses owned by Chinese people—-
KATHRYN RYAN: Oh, I don’t think ANYONE is proposing that.
Mike Williams is silent as Hooton continues to make the most scurrilous and outlandish claims about Labour.
KATHRYN RYAN: Labour’s in a difficult position, isn’t it. It doesn’t want to be left out of the TPPA, but its supporters oppose it.
MIKE WILLIAMS: Yeah, I think it is. But Tim Groser’s pointed out that he’s not signing anything that leaves out dairy. So, y’know, but, uh, Matthew’s quite right, there ARE constraints on sovereignty. … The devil’s in the detail. Let’s see what is finally signed.
KATHRYN RYAN: But that’s the irony—no one gets to see it. [snickers in plaintive resignation]
MATTHEW HOOTON: Yeah but, y’know, there will be a debate before ratification. … I think that what we’re seeing with Labour is that there’s a faction within Labour that’s never reconciled themselves to the existence of free markets, they were not really happy with what happened after ’84. They don’t believe there should be markets, they think that they—
MIKE WILLIAMS: Ha ha ha ha!
MATTHEW HOOTON: They think they should be more strongly regulated.
MIKE WILLIAMS: Can I say that—-
MATTHEW HOOTON: And that criticism, that aversion to markets can’t be expressed publicly in New Zealand because it’s so SILLY.
KATHRYN RYAN: Well, the aversion to UNFETTERED markets.
MATTHEW HOOTON: So this debate occurs in a context within the Labour Party over free trade. But, um, this is simply what it’s all about. It’s whether people are comfortable with being in markets and whether they should be extended globally.
MIKE WILLIAMS: Can I say this? I was president of the Labour Party for nearly a decade and campaign manager for twelve years. That faction that Matthew just talked about—-
MATTHEW HOOTON: They were in the Alliance then!
MIKE WILLIAMS: I have never MET them!
KATHRYN RYAN: Ha ha ha!
MIKE WILLIAMS: They’re not there! This is a — ha ha ha ha!
KATHRYN RYAN: Righto!
MIKE WILLIAMS:Right wing fantasy! Ha ha ha!
KATHRYN RYAN: Right oh! Thanks both of you, as always! Mike Williams, Matthew Hooton, politics.
Mike Williams did manage to make some good points in amongst the Hooton verbiage you know. Thanks Morrisey for the report which is as I remember it. Hooton was getting in his stride, and any National devotee would not have been persuaded by ANYTHING that Williams said. What he did say was enough to sink the hot air bubble.
Fair comments, shark. I just wish Williams would make them more clearly and more frequently. Laila Harré always had Hooton on the back foot; Williams on the other hand seems much too nice.
I think Mike does a good job. Shouting back would not improve the dialog. And anyway what Matthew says is often worth listening to as it represents usually what the Right are thinking and that is valuable. Even if we disagree with him.
I think Mike does a good job.
I don’t think he does his job very well at all. He seems reluctant to get offside with Hooton, as if he has to keep in his good books. That’s no doubt the way a political party president operates—wheeling and dealing in favours—but it’s not the way a serious commentator behaves.
Shouting back would not improve the dialog.
He doesn’t need to shout—that’s what Hooton does whenever he gets contradicted. Williams only needs to speak clearly and demonstrate that he is not prepared to let Hooton get away with the outlandish statements he makes practically every time he comes on that show.
And anyway what Matthew says is often worth listening to as it represents usually what the Right are thinking and that is valuable. Even if we disagree with him.
The problem with Hooton is not whether his views are different to ours or not, it’s that he does not engage in serious or intelligent debate. He makes incendiary statements, as he did today, which Williams almost always lets him get away with. Hooton does not try to engage in intelligent debate any more than Michelle Boag does.
Mathew Hooton is the ideological lick-spittle on this issue.
What a completely disingenuous argument from him.
Matthew is an ideologue of the first order – and reading this, just proves he is just another one of the lying Tory brigands.
You know Matthew when your in power you are suppose to work for all people, even if they voted against you. Sorry I forgot, you are not a fan of democracy.
How is he an ideologue on this issue? He hasn’t expressed any displeasure that the State is involved in running Prisons, in fact he didn’t see why Serco should be involved in a Remand prison. That hardly seems ideologically based.
Hooton is a true disciple of the Randian cult.
If you remember FOX news always had thei tame democrat. There was a guy called Colmes who was always alongside Swan Hannity; there to present a weak ineffective alternative to the rants of Hannity.
I was sorry to read that Simon Mercep has left RadioNZ. The figures for the afternoon show he hosted were up. He was a pleasant listen but I note that other media have been debating him for over a year. Maybe they are Jim Mora devotees. He seems to be extra to requirements, perhaps it is time for him to move, ‘Scary Mary’ is down since he joined. She doesn’t need him. One thing I did notice was that Simon sounded a bit like Mora, who was not a favourite of mine, bit oily.
Who is the , ‘Scary Mary’ you speak of? What does she do?
@Clemgeopin
It is an accurate description of Mary Wilson’s interrogating style in the RadioNZ evening drivetime slot. She is hot and determined, also gets called a rotweiler. She’s an excellent interviewer and a must to listen – 5 to 7 pm on Checkpoint. Jim Mora has been put in there to dilute the power.
I think there is a desire for dilution on the part of Radionz management, because so many people don’t want to listen to anything but candyfloss or little bouts of drama, tragedy, cuteness, bitchiness or camaraderie. The other morning Guyon and Susie were having a short disagreement as to who they considered the best James Bond actor. Uuugh.
Further thoughts. Chit chat for people who live in lala land, looking forward to their next drink, consumer purchase, supply of soma (google meaning – the body as distinct from the mind, soul or psyche) also the name of the drug maintaining a feeling of wellbeing in book Brave New World – Aldous Huxley.
“the warm, the richly coloured, the infinitely friendly world of soma-holiday. How kind, how good-looking, how delightfully amusing every one was! ”
Interesting quotes to dip into from Brave New World.
http://www.bookrags.com/notes/bnw/quo.html#gsc.tab=0
Margaret Atwood’s take on BNW:
…Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World (1932), which proposed a different and softer form of totalitarianism – one of conformity achieved through engineered, bottle-grown babies and hypnotic persuasion rather than through brutality, of boundless consumption that keeps the wheels of production turning and of officially enforced promiscuity that does away with sexual frustration, of a pre-ordained caste system ranging from a highly intelligent managerial class to a subgroup of dim-witted serfs programmed to love their menial work, and of soma, a drug that confers instant bliss with no side effects.
And read all that she says all of you who are brave enough to cope with a thorough laxative for your sluggish mind!
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2007/nov/17/classics.margaretatwood
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moderators – I sent something to the TS gmail a few days ago. Any word on it?
Ray Smith the head of the NZ Corrections Department was told today by prison officers during his visit to Mt Eden that the main issue was a lack of staff doing the job.
How else does Serco provide a cheaper service (and for profit) than the state, if not by having a higher prisoner to screw ratio?
This seems to be a pretty weak report, we have the second highest ownership of cars so we are somehow rich? Doesn’t matter if a high proportion of cars are 1980’s/90’s rust buckets, we own them so we are rich…
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/70578672/new-zealand-has-worlds-thirdhighest-material-standard-of-living–report
Also, the Netherlands is a shithole, they can only afford bikes…
Clarke Gayford calls out braindead ACT leader live on air.
Is there a minimum IQ for MPs in New Zealand?
The Panel, Radio NZ National, Monday 27 July 2015
Jim Mora, Chris Gallavin, Clarke Gayford
In his Soapbox contribution after the 4:30 news, Clarke Gayford said how disturbed he was at finding plastic bags in the water near Great Barrier Island. This reminded him of the bizarre recent speech by National’s chained poodle David Seymour, who in parliament foolishly and without checking, cited a discredited Jamie Whyte-calibre “study” in order to bolster his crazy claim that banning plastic bags would lead to at least twenty deaths.
http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/act-reusable-shopping-bags-can-kill-2015072110#axzz3h3TPdgun
Something did not sound quite right about that, said Gayford, so he did some checking on the original material that formed the basis of the speech by Epsom’s finest. It was, he discovered, utterly spurious. Click on the following link for a decisive refutation of those frivolous faux-academics…..
http://blogs.berkeley.edu/2013/02/13/san-francisco-plastic-bag-ban-deaths/
Is there a minimum IQ for MPs in New Zealand? And if not, why not?
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Lord Sewel to be named as new ACT deputy leader….
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/lord-sewel-quits-as-lords-deputy-speaker-following-drugs-claims-10416657.html
Jane Kelsey: Labour needs to stand firm on TPPA
And that’s only if we don’t get flooded by their over-production of dairy which is more likely.
Labour need to wake up to the fact that the ideology that they bought into 30+ years ago is bunk and start looking at better options.
Labour stand firm? You must be joking.
GMO and Pharmaceuticals are the primary drivers for TPPA
Thought I’d share this David Cameron rap my son found ….
Tory Rap Artist
The Serco debacle is obvious now, understaffing by the sound of the news reports to save money ,a blind eye to go with Key’s blind trust in private prisons
How long can Key keep living in blind trust and giving his salary as PM to charity its like sitting on the fence so he cant be held nailed for what we all know but cant afford to prove because what he represents is too big to fail so he gets to stand there as proof that we cant afford to stop him thats his job just be the facilitator because there is nothing that we can hold him accountable for anything that will actually affect him or tie him to all the deals hes done behind closed doors
His former boss in Merrill Lynch pulled Reagan’s strings for years One of the most ruthless ever , what name for a mortgagor,
“In peril we’ll lynch you” should have been what they were called
A bit of a conflict of interest you might say a bit like giving away the country’s sovereignty in the TPPA as now the crunch point is coming and Key has to put into practice all the secret terms of the agreements of the agreement privatising the govt in full
Wont ban foreign buyers because of the existing free trade agreements especially with China
Over a pork barrel in the politics you might think, this is what the power of the mighty do to NZ no matter which one they are
Key should change his name to Mr Catalyst because that is what his wishy washy statements amount to
The Aluminium smelter
Mining and Oil deals
Dirty Politics
The Northland by election
Auckland’s govt funding extending Ak to the Kaipara and south to the tron and west to the Tasman just to keep the main actors in the takeover of this country happy
2 terms of it and wait theres more but I cant be bothered its just too taxing
I know you lot are pretty pro-AGW. The latest New Scientist has an article on why people, even those who believe in AGW, are failing to act. It lists 33 reasons why (article assumes AGW is real and for present purposes this post assumes it is real as well).
Here’s a summary.
1. Ancient brain – we’re wired to act on the here and now not the sometime in the future.
2. Ignorance.
3. Environmental numbness – i.e. we’ve heard it so many times we’ve become numb to it.
4. Uncertainty.
5. Discounting – we undervalue future risks.
6. Optimism bias.
7. Perceived lack of behavioural control – we think our behaviour can do nothing.
8. Confirmation bias.
9. Time is money – people don’t act in environmentally positive ways when it’s their money they’re losing (gee who’d thunk it?).
10. Perceived in ability.
11. World views.
12. Suprahuman powers – i.e. God will save us.
13. Technosalvation – technology will save us and yep, I’m guilty.
14. System justification – tendency to defend the status quo.
15. Social comparison – my neighbour isn’t doing anything so why should I?
16. Social norms and networks.
17. Perceived inequity – i.e. why should I change if they won’t change?
18. Financial investments.
19. Habit.
20. Conflicting goals, values and aspirations – Many people favour addressing the economic cost of climate change, as long as it doesn’t come out of their own pockets (see #9).
21. Place attachment.
22. Mistrust.
23. Perceived programme inadequacy,
24. Denial.
25. Reactance – the tendency to struggle against whatever appears to threaten one’s freedom.
26. Functional risk.
27. Physical risk,
28. Financial risk.
29. Social risk.
30. Psychological risk
31. Temporal risk
32. Tokenism.
33. The rebound effect – Often, after some positive change is made, the gains are diminished or erased by subsequent actions.
So, if you believe in AGW and believe we have to act now, yet you still drive a car when you can take a bus, and aren’t willing to eat less meat, it might be because of one of the reasons listed above.
A good list but a bit downheartening.
The free markets Mathew Hooton talks about are a myth.
Tim Grosser is hang on to his spin that he won’t sign up unless Dairy is included (production costs in the US are much lower ).
Other forms of agricultural exports will not be included because it will cause depopulation in Republican voter heartland where representation has been gerrymandered to keep the Republicans in charge.
Tim Grosser is not giving us the completed picture .
Double Dealing the public like he thinks the public are”Dopey”and can trust an druggie.
The TPPA needs to be given the light of day and the public fully informed.
We don’t need some shonKey deal done behind closed doors.
We need a proper fully open and democratic debate what have they got to hide .
Gosh – since John Key has been Prime Minister of New Zealand – haven’t the banks and traders done well?
We now have a derivatives market for dairying and electricity.
We now have the Auckland ‘Supercity’ – which because of its size – can now, as I understand it – borrow overseas currency
off shore.
We have this ‘white hot’ Auckland property market – which is marvellous for the speculators. land bankers, real estate agents, foreign investors, money-launderers and banks.
Sky City, in my opinion, have been able to effectively set up a money-laundering factory in the heart of Auckland City, given the failure of OFCANZ, PM John Key, Minister Steven Joyce, Auckland Council and Auckland Central Police to carry out any ‘due diligence’ on the increased risk of money-laundering arising from the NZ International Convention Centre Act.
A number of dairy farmers are now in hock to the banks – especially given the dramatic fall in the price of milk fat solids.
As I understand it – NZ debt is now over $100 billion, and as of 2012, exposure to derivatives was $112 billion?
And Prime Minister John Key is still a shareholder in the Bank of America – still arguably working for foreign banks and currency traders?
Advocating for the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) – from which he can arguably personally profit?
Follow the dollar …..?
WAKE UP KIWIS!
Penny Bright
Its the ultimate tool of divide and rule
Break a dollar into as many unrecognisable pieces as possible
Its easier to reassemble it a form that fits your values so that the old value no longer is recognisable
Thats John Key
Just went to view Sunday on demand (to catch the China buying up Australia story everyone is talking about) only to find that segment of the show isn’t there
As you would expect from aussies on the front line but for us in this little principality and sadly with those who say its happenin here we are actually in the final stages of the annexing of this nation to an unidentifiable ruler of many parts and our history lessons will be worthless and our sovereignty gone and 90 mile beach will be an oil slick along with the pollution of our harbours fisheries rivers aquifers air soil you name it
Why simply because we dont talk enough about it because our universities are turning out manufacturers of the financial propaganda and subverters of free thought and power to question FUCKIN FASCISTS LIKE OUR PM AND LORD HAW HAW the latest version