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The attack on Auckland’s Democracy

Written By: - Date published: 9:06 am, October 16th, 2013 - 172 comments
Categories: auckland supercity, blogs, democracy under attack - Tags: ,

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OK Len has been a silly boy.  He is not the first middle aged man to do something really stupid and he will not be the last.  I hope that his family recover and wish them all aroha to deal with a situation that is bad enough when it is private but devastating when it is so public.

I also hope that he rehabilitates himself.  A lame duck mayor is the last thing that Auckland needs.  He has been able to get this Government to do the right thing even though it does not want to do this and I hope that Len continues with his efforts.  Many of us are disturbed at the treatment of MUNZ on the ports of Auckland and insistent that Auckland should impose a living wage, but Len has achieved a great deal of good and it is vital that he continues to do so.

The timing of this announcement and the source are interesting.

As to the source well Cameron is obviously not a catholic.  Because otherwise he would realise that he who is not without sin should not cast the first stone.  And given that his father was John Pallino’s campaign manager you have to wonder if Cameron just wants to make sure that the truth is out there or if he wants to upset the democratic choice of all of Auckland.  I am sure that the latter is his motivation.

Despite their denials I would be astounded if they have not had this information for a while.  If outing of the truth is their only motivation then why wait until now?

Instead they release this information in the small window of time between the close of the polls and the announcement of the final result.  It is clear from the initial result that Len was going to coast home.  Maybe they are hoping that he will resign and they can have a second go at it.

This is hugely distracting.  Instead of us having a Mayor forming a Council that will take the City forward we are into a bout of pantie sniffing.

The response of the Council will be interesting.  I am sure that the right will stage a Bill Clinton type attempted impeachment process under the Council’s code of conduct for elected members.  The trouble is that the code of itself contains no real teeth but I am sure it will be used to at least try and undermine Len’s authority.

Cameron Slater has shown beyond doubt that he is part of the New Zealand version of the Tea Party.  Nothing matters but winning.  And if you have to trash democratic decisions and the future of the country’s largest city then so be it.

172 comments on “The attack on Auckland’s Democracy”

  1. Tom Gould 1

    Palino is making no comment? Very convenient. Will the MSM ask him the obvious questions? The utter hypocrisy in the nasty venal right and parts of the MSM is simply breath-taking. As for the right-wing lynch mob pseudo-impeachment censure, Len should just vote for the motion. Next. Other than that, he should get on with the job he was elected to do.

    • Tracey 1.1

      Like Banks, and Key before him,,, they have underlings do the bad stuff so they can say “I never did that” “I never saw that” “I never knew that.”

      IF he knew nothing of it the least he can do is say he doesn’t or does agree with it, but feels sympathy for Mr Brown’s wife and family who are collateral damage in this.

  2. BM 2

    Despite their denials I would be astounded if they have not had this information for a while. If outing of the truth is their only motivation then why wait until now?

    Because he didn’t get a sign affidavit until yesterday, I’m surprised you didn’t know that.

    • mickysavage 2.1

      The affidavit may have been signed yesterday but are you suggesting that they did not have the information until then?

      • karol 2.1.1

        SleazeOil has been reported as saying he first got the information about a month ago.

      • BM 2.1.2

        Yes, but until he got her to sign an affidavit he wasn’t going to put his arse on the line was he.

        If he went public and then she backed out, he’d have been toast.

        Slater is not dumb.

        • Colonial Viper 2.1.2.1

          Yep. Better that she becomes political toast.

        • Tracey 2.1.2.2

          “his arse on the line”

          Play fair BM, I will struggle to get THAT image out of my mind today without poking my eyes out with a fork.

        • mickysavage 2.1.2.3

          Are you saying BM that she would not sign the affidavit until yesterday or that Slater only asked for it yesterday? I agree the affidavit is important but I don’t accept that it was only available yesterday. After all you only have to look at the pressure that Stephen Cook had applied to victims in the past to realise that he is prepared to go to extremes to get stories.

          • Seti 2.1.2.3.1

            You think she would have provided all these lurid details knowing they would be made public after being elected to the Albert-Eden board? Her position would have been as untenable as Brown’s is.
            Cook may have had a story but denials from both sides would have killed it before it got going.

        • ghostwhowalksnz 2.1.2.4

          Thats absurd . He would have run with what he had.

          No he wants Brown as Mayor now, it suits his close friends Banks ( a comeback) or Williamson to run next time

        • Rodel 2.1.2.5

          Yes he is

    • Colonial Viper 2.2

      That’s simply a fact, not a reason. The reasons would be: she was also running in the elections. And Palino is very closely connected with the matter through his campaign manager, Slater’s Dad. Also they knew that Brown would get voted in anyway, despite their smears.

  3. Zorr 3

    I don’t see anything in that code of conduct that says “the mayor shall not have consensual sex with another private citizen who is not his wife” – this really would be grasping at straws for the right because what does Len’s private life have to do with his ability to perform the duties of his office?

    All aboard the bandwagon!

    • mickysavage 3.1

      I hope they do not do it because it will create an almighty circus for months if it gets off the ground. But clause 5.2 states that “Members have a duty to act honestly and with integrity at all times” and I can imagine some claiming that this has been breached.

    • fender 3.2

      +1

      But they can’t “trust him now” apparently.

      Len must have told certain people he would only screw his wife.

    • infused 3.3

      It’s not private life when he was busted busting a nut within the council walls, is it?

      He’s made his private life public. I don’t get why none of you seem to be able to grasp that.

      • lprent 3.3.1

        He’s made his private life public.

        Ah no. Whats her name and the hypocritical panty-sniffer Cameron Slater did that.

        By the way, I think I should start running a series of the posts on the sex life of Whaleoil. Apparently it isn’t all blowup dolls.

        • Tiger Mountain 3.3.1.1

          Len may well be an amateur compared to Banksie party central in the back seat of the Bentley. And please pedants don’t accuse me of making stuff up given Banksies memory blackouts over his plus sized ex buddy KDC.

          There are so many possible scenarios, but a political angle is the hot trail given Whalespews Dad’s involvement in the Pallino campaign and Bevan’s candidacy for a board.

          • Can’t beat Len in the electoral contest-no worries undermine him after.

        • fender 3.3.1.2

          Not sure I could stomach the details about what he does with those pig hunting trophies, LP.

        • David H 3.3.1.3

          If you do run with that sort of story can you please put a ‘Not before morning coffee’ sort of warning on it.

        • Murray Olsen 3.3.1.4

          The problem is that any publicity to do with any sort of sex would raise Blubber Boy’s esteem in the eyes of his fan club. Whether he’s rogering a bloody dead rabbit or irrumating a prickly pear, it’s more than most of them would be getting. And if it did go bad, he’s expendable anyway. Lusk and Collins can roll out some other semi literate moron to keep the show on the road. What is needed is the extermination of the social relations that use his sort of crap as their first line of defence. That means much deeper changes than can be brought about by exposing the sick fantasies and actual events in the sex life of a piece of something that would have to evolve to become pond scum.

    • cricklewood 3.4

      It does most likely mention behaviors that bring the office into disrepute, having a play in council premises apperently crosses the line Council recently fired an employee for the same in toilet stall a year or two back the desicision was upheld in the empolyment court…
      I suspect that is what will trip him up in the end don’t think anyone would give a shit if it all happened in his own time on private proerty….

  4. karol 4

    Well said Micky. I am disgusted that the MSM is taking SleazeOil’s smears so seriously.

  5. Philgwellington Wellington 5

    Can you please tell me exactly what is so precious about Aucklands democracy, when it is being trashed in Hawkes Bay
    And with the Ruataniwha Dam,
    Canterbury with the dictatorship
    of the appointed Regional and Council, Christchurch rebuild
    Fletcher Con, etc. Democracy is so yesterday. You are now under increasing control by your elected ‘representatives’. What to do?..

    • karol 5.1

      Actually, the SleazeOil smear campaign is just another way the right are trying to undermine democracy. The things you list above are other ways they have been trying.

      And we could be in for more of the same in the run-up to next year’s parliamentary elections.

      • infused 5.1.1

        Len Brown undermined himself. It’s pretty damm simple Karol.

        • lprent 5.1.1.1

          Not “simple”. I couldn’t give a damn where politicians put their genitals if they’re doing it with consenting adults. What I’m interested in is just if they are doing their job and not trying to directly lie (which was the Richard Worth problem). Can’t see what this has to do with running Auckland city.

          I’m just surprised that you are such a furious gossip? Read a lot of celebrity magazines as well do you?

      • David H 5.1.2

        Except that it’s all over the front pages, and pushing important stories out of the limelight. Puddin Bennet must have run out of things to Hammer us Beneficiaries with.

  6. karol 6

    And the TVNZ report has commentators from left and right saying Brown should stay mayor, and that there looks to be a political motive behind SleazeOil’s release of information.

    Interesting that the report says this:

    Simon Wilson told Seven Sharp he thinks the timing of the revelation was deliberate.

    He said the woman in question was a political opponent of Mr Brown, as she was a local board candidate for the Communities and Residents ticket, which means the National Party in Auckland.

    I understand she was also a member of John Palino’s campaign team. And she doesn’t get elected.

    “It’s hard to imagine that she would have acted completely alone on this.”

    Mr Wilson also pointed out that John Slater, who is the father of the blogger who released the information, was John Palino’s “manager or adviser”.

    “Clearly this has been released with a political motive.”

    My bold.

    Sheesh!

  7. swan 7

    Hang on what are you guys going on about. He had sex on council premises with one on his own appointees. And that has been made public. An attack on democracy???? Get over yourselves

    • karol 7.1

      with one on his own appointees
      citation needed.

      Flailing around there, swan. The media tide is turning in favour of Brown. The political motives of the smearmongers are now under the spotlight. They can’t win a democratic vote on policy, so try some dirty smear tricks – fail.

      • swan 7.1.1

        Here karol see link below. Hopefully you accept its veracity it is from the RWNJ Tim Watkin. Im not doing the flailing. I dont care about this much. (Although my apolitical wife now thinks he is cretin.) I was just calling out the hysterics of calling this an attack on democracy!!

        http://pundit.co.nz/content/len-brown-sex-lies-and-mandates

        • Tracey 7.1.1.1

          “The initial story on WhaleOil said the affair was with a “council employee”, which is a bit of a stretch. As one of 12 on the Ethnic Peoples Advisory Panel she is a representative rather than a staff member. If she had been a staff member the issue would have been much worse for Brown, because employment law would have come down on him like a tonne of bricks.”

          and

          “”The Local Government Act required the Mayor of Auckland to appoint the Panel no later than 31 March 2011.The Panel was established and appointed by the Mayor of Auckland following a three-stage selection process…” It goes on:”The Panel operates up to 1 November 2013. However, the decision tocontinue or re-establish the panel in the same or modified form is within thepower of the Mayor’s authority.”

          So Chuang – a perfectly pleasant woman I met earlier this year – was the mayor’s own appointee (even if the recommendations came from a selection committee). Worse, he has the power to re-appoint her – or not – in the next two to three weeks. “

          • Huginn 7.1.1.1.1

            From the Herald:

            ‘Ms Chuang . . . was appointed to the Ethnic Peoples Advisory Panel in March 2011. The mayor is legally responsible for appointing the board.

            [However] Mr Brown appointed councillor Richard Northey to interview and hire panellists, including Ms Chuang. Mr Northey said she “interviewed well” and there was no reason she would have met Mr Brown at that stage. ‘

        • karol 7.1.1.2

          Veracity? yes I read it last night. It’s an opinion, and in the end, Watkins states he’s more worried about Banks maintaining office than Len Brown.

          And this is Tim Watkin’s later piece, published late last night or early this morning, after the post you linked to:

          “The unwritten rule re politics & sex: Does the Len Brown story write a new rule”

          Yet New Zealand journalists have been pretty consistent in staying well away from that line. Many a known infidelity has gone unreported, or so I’ve been told. I’d feel pretty confident in saying that includes relationships where, as with Len Brown, some form of power abuse has been in play.
          [...]
          Cameron Slater and Stephen Cook, well, their work speaks for itself. And it’s often been vulgar or worse in my view. While they’ve clearly got this one mostly right, they’ve got other stories and judgments wrong in the past, in some cases at great cost. That being said, journalists and bloggers (the latter’s kindest description I can give those two) aren’t standing for public office so can be as judgmental and hypocritical as they like. They can simply publish and be damned. Fair enough.

          But I fear the crossing of a line here. And I fear that these two retrobates are the ones to cross it. I don’t want to reward them or to work in an industry where they set the tone. I don’t want the lowest common denominators in the media to be able to establish themselves as society’s moral arbiters. I don’t want them to be encouraged to find new ways to titilate for the sake of it and thereby lower the public’s view of the media any more than it already has been. Further, do we really want to open our leaders to this new level of scrutiny? That would be something new. And if so, there must surely be MPs tonight sleeping very uneasily indeed.

          One point that stands out in today’s blog is the detail; the unnecessary, salacious, vicious detail. No credible journalist would have gone into such explicit depth about the sexual acts. Even if the story is of public interest, the explicit material is not and can only hurt the family more. It’s clearly calculated to do maximum political damage regardless of the human cost, because readers will fixate on the demeaning, cheap specifics and Brown can’t respond to them, can’t even deny any that might be untrue, because he has to lie in the bed he made for himself.

          None of that is decent, it’s just cruel.
          Look at the comparison with John Banks and the comment made by Kim Dotcom in court today:
          [...]
          Do we really demand the resignation of a man who cheats on his wife while a man [Banks] who allegedly says such things wins national office and become a minister of the Crown?
          The Brown revelation hurts him. But its longer-term legacy could be the rewriting of a rule, a re-writing that has taken place due to political gamesmanship and without any sense of consensus within the industry or society at large.

          You are just trying to run SleazeOil’s nasty smear campaign and maintain it has some credibility. It’s just dirty tactics by people who have lost in a democratic vote. I hear the level of detail revealed on SleazeOil’s site is unnecessarily nasty and salacious.

          Shame on you all. You do democracy no service.

          • swan 7.1.1.2.1

            No I’m not. I dont care about his smear campaign. And agree it is dirty stuff.

            You questioned a fact I asserted and I backed it up.

            But for petes sake none of that makes this an attack on democracy!!

            • Draco T Bastard 7.1.1.2.1.1

              But for petes sake none of that makes this an attack on democracy!!

              The timing and demands for resignation indicate otherwise.

  8. Puckish Rogue 8

    He can’t be trusted with a credit card, he can’t be trusted with attractive women but hey its an attack on democracy…ever consider that maybe 2 minute noodle Brown bought this all on himself through his own actions?

    Naah much easier to blame the right then look at your own failings

    • ghostwhowalksnz 8.1

      Of course its his own failings !

      Have you seen the track record of London Mayor Boris Johnson

      “In 2004, British newspapers reported that Johnson had had a four-year affair with Petronella Wyatt.”

      Johnson committed a “minor technical breach of the code of conduct” in failing “to formally disclose his relationship with unpaid City Hall adviser Helen Macintyre

      … became a trainee reporter for The Times. Within a year, he was sacked for falsifying a quotation from his godfather,

      In 1995, a recording of a telephone conversation was made public revealing a plot by a friend to physically assault a News of the World journalist…. I think he got a medal for that !!

    • framu 8.2

      you and swan are talking about the act – the post is talking about how, when and why we found out

      they – arent – the – same – thing

      You both need to look beyond the headline

      note: im not supporting brown or his actions here, just pointing out your both missing the point of the post

      • swan 8.2.1

        OK I am not trying to focus on the act. Of course it is no secret that Whale oil is a politically partisan blogger and would have hoped that airing this causes damage to Brown. Yeah muck raking and all that. But going from that to “attack on democracy” is the hysterical leap I am calling into question.

        • Tracey 8.2.1.1

          IF using this act to try and change the outcome of an election is not about democracy what is it?

          • swan 8.2.1.1.1

            It is playing the game – albeit dirty. This is politics. Dish dirt on opponents – call for resignations – call into question integrity character. Not saying its pleasant or desirable, but it is just poilitics.

            An attack on democracy would be electoral fraud or perhaps making up lies in an election campaign or gerrymandering, or something like that…

            You can see the difference, right? If this is an attack on democracy then the virtually the entire political process in NZ is an attack on democracy!

            The point is – the people will decide and judge him on this (i.e. democracy). And no one is forcing him to resign (and it doesnt look like he will).

        • framu 8.2.1.2

          fair enough – i also wouldnt call the outing of lengate in and of itself as an attack on democracy

          But i would call the fact of whos doing it, why, and what the objectives could be, add up to something far worse than public interest journalism.

          (But i would probably say that regarding anything the professional shit stirrers in and around the auckland council come up with)

    • fender 8.3

      “…..can’t be trusted with attractive women….”

      So there’s more than just this one woman he’s been frisky with is there? Or is this woman the only attractive one in Auckland?

    • Tracey 8.4

      Cant be trusted with a credit card also includes Brownlee and Heatley…

      Liars include Smith and Key…

      You have no moral high ground to beat your chest on Puck… unless I have missed your posts railing against these guys and banks…

  9. George D 9

    I disagree with MickySavage.

    One thing the left knows is that nobody succeeds alone. That’s especially true in politics.

    His electoral success has been due to the support of the Labour Party, the unions, the volunteers and supporters, the people of South Auckland. And his family.

    Len needs to humble himself and remember who got him to where he is today. Without them he’s just a smart man with a nice smile.

  10. Sanctuary 10

    Looks increasingly like Len Brown fell for a calculated, old-fashioned honey trap that would make the KGB smile.

    • Tracey 10.1

      Yet she is saying that he dumped her and it made her feel like a “prostitute”. She felt she was treated poorly and so perhaps she wanted to lash out. Slater called her naive, and was happy to exploit that.

      • karol 10.1.1

        Now I’m confused. I seem to recall earlier reports did say Brown ended the affair, but this NZ Herald article reports that Chuang claims she ended it.

        Ms Chuang said she did not find Mr Brown attractive but found his power and influence “intoxicating” and compared herself to Monica Lewinsky, Bill Clinton’s mistress.

        She later ended the affair after starting a new relationship.

        • Bob 10.1.1.1

          From my reading og the information I believe that:
          1) Around January she became involved in a relationship and with another person and she then ended the affair with Brown.
          2) The relationship with the “third party” ended at some point and the affair with Brown resumed
          3) The affair ended a second time just before Brown launched his re-election campaign (Jun/Jul)

          Hope that helps.

        • Tracey 10.1.1.2

          Yes, I read a report where she said she felt like a poorly paid prostitute after he dumped her.

    • Puckish Rogue 10.2

      Helluva honey trap to run it for two years…maybe hes just a dirty old man

  11. djp 11

    Wow, shedding light on a polictical candidate is now an “attack on Aucklands Democracy”. Are you serious?

    • Colonial Viper 11.1

      Trying to throw the results of an election with private life sexual gutterpress is an attack on democracy.

    • karol 11.2

      Yes. Do you seriously think a lot of Kiwis really are taken in by SleazeOil’s smear campaign? If you know anything about politics in NZ and how it is usually reported on, it is a politically motivated smear in the face of losing a democratic vote.

      I think Brown did far worse in not supporting the Ports Of Auckland workers. That really shows where his politics are at. The light has been shed on his personal life. There are many politicians in NZ past and present, left and right, that are guilty of similar sexual (mis) conduct.

      SleazeOil doesn’t shed light, he smears slime and creates politically-motivated diversions. He and his fellow sewer rats have no respect for democracy.

      • DavidW 11.2.1

        How can it be a smear when Len has admitted it all? All kinda reminds one of Mike Williams trooping off to Melbourne to find dirt on John Key and making sure that the media knew where he was and what he was doing. Inferences were then drawn that there was something to find. Turns out to be nothing – That’s a smear.

        • karol 11.2.1.1

          A smear is being done by trying to make more of Brown’s sexual encounters than they are. It’s just throwing a lot of mud around.

          • grumpy 11.2.1.1.1

            No problem with Len indulging in a bit of extracurricular nooky with an attractive young chick…..but she claims he gave her the clap (which, if true indicates more about Len’s off field pursuits than we thought)….and threatened her (shades of Aaron Gilmore, who didn’t actually – as far as we know- shag the waiter).

            • Colonial Viper 11.2.1.1.1.1

              ….and threatened her (shades of Aaron Gilmore, who didn’t actually – as far as we know- shag the waiter).

              Threats? You mean the anon txts? Who knows if they came from Slater’s mates or whoever else might’ve known about the issue for the last several months.

              • grumpy

                No idea – but that’s what is claimed. There will be more to come out on this.
                As always, it’s not the initial act that tips them over – it’s the lies and coverup afterwards.
                Good move getting Campbell and Rudman on board though.

        • framu 11.2.1.2

          from memory that little smear was wrongly attributed to Williams

          yes he was over there – but he wasnt the only one, and he wasnt the one who supplied the story

  12. Pascal's bookie 12

    The GOPification wing of the National Party shows its hand.

    Judith Collins may lead the party one day, but National won’t win an election with her at the helm.

  13. Sanctuary 13

    What will the French be thinking? They must be puzzling at the obsessions of the Anglo-Saxons…

    “…At Mitterrand’s funeral in Jarnac, his wife Danielle (centre, with white scarf), to the right their son Jean-Christophe, then Mitterrand’s daughter (out of wedlock) Mazarine, her mother Anne Pingeot (Mitterrand’s mistress, standing a step back, with black hat), and then Mitterrand’s other son by Danielle, Gilbert, 11 January 1996.

    http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/files/2010/04/mitterrand-funeral-351×250-custom.jpg

  14. infused 14

    The way you lot are portraying this is fucking hilarious.

    Len has done no wrong.

    Jesus.

    [lprent: Do you have a point? Apart from religion. ]

    • Tracey 14.1

      you and CV in agreement at last ;)

      Selective reading infused? Some of this lot think he has done wrong… me, Allen, vto and others…

      • infused 14.1.1

        I’ve only skim read, but it did seem that way.

        • karol 14.1.1.1

          I have repeatedly said, Brown has hurt his family. I don’t like his philandering. But his bigger failing, IMO is his failure to support the Ports of Auckland workers. But even knowing his political flaws, and that he is too centrist fro my liking, I voted for him last week. This is because the alternative (Palino or Slater’s favoured one Brewer) are far worse.

          And I rate SleazeOil’s smear mongering as a tactic to bring down Brown, as far worse than anything Brown’s done. SleazeOil and his sewer rats thumb their noses at democracy.

          • infused 14.1.1.1.1

            How has he smeared him lol? This is all len browns doing. If he kept his junk in his pants you wouldn’t have this issue, would you?

            • framu 14.1.1.1.1.1

              i see youve changed tack from accusing people here of supporting lens philandering

              • infused

                I don’t need to really. It’s all written here in black and white.

                • framu

                  if you dont need to – why did you do it?

                  as you said – its all there in black and white

                  ahem

                  – “The way you lot are portraying this is fucking hilarious. Len has done no wrong.”

                  can you point out where “you lot” are supporting browns carry on?

                  then for follow up points – can you point out where youve changed tack?

                  it all there – it shouldnt be that hard

                  so youve made a statement, shifted your position, then when called on it your response is “i dont need to”?

                  your not even making sense

            • felix 14.1.1.1.1.2

              Why do you think you get a say in what Len Brown does with his junk?

              Fuck off, busybody.

      • Colonial Viper 14.1.2

        Selective reading infused? Some of this lot think he has done wrong… me, Allen, vto and others…

        Whoah Tracey…yes Brown has done wrong morally…but no, this is a private matter and nothing to do with his ability or job as Mayor UNLESS it can be shown that he has been lavishing Council money, trips, gifts, career promises etc on the woman.

    • infused 14.2

      religion? couldn’t care less. My point is, this isn’t his private life like a lot of people saying. You choose to bang someone on council property, cheat on your wife and get caught out, tough shit. He’s a public figure, he should know better. Now he has to deal with it.

      • felix 14.2.1

        And why do you think you get a say in whether he cheats on his wife?

        • infused 14.2.1.1

          If he cheats on his wife, he’s hardly trust worthy to be Mayor is he? or are you that fucking simple I need to spell this out for you.

          [lprent: Let me spell it out for you. None of your comments today have any content. FFS you haven't even managed to write a coherent explanation about why you feel outraged. That is despite several people asking you why you appear to do so.

          Conclusion - they look like trolling. 4 week ban. ]

          • fender 14.2.1.1.1

            Oh yeah, being unfaithful to ones wife means you are an untrustworthy criminal in every area of your life.

            Bit like those busybodies who think if someone smokes pot they are involved in the criminal underworld 24/7.

          • infused 14.2.1.1.2

            Why do I need to be outraged? I never said I was. I’m countering these two stupid arguments:

            1) It’s his private life, stay out
            2) He should say as Mayor

            • Colonial Viper 14.2.1.1.2.1

              So you want all city/district councillors, mayors, MPs, judges, etc out of office if they have had extramarital affairs? On what basis?

          • Draco T Bastard 14.2.1.1.3

            I remember reading an account a woman wrote of an affair she had. She started it when she was 19 with her boss and it lasted 10+ years. In that time she went to the boss’s home for dinner several times a year, became friends with the wife and remained friends with her after the death of the husband. She also got married.

            Was the man “cheating on his wife”? Not as far as I can make out. He still loved her, cared for her and supported her. Same, I believe, can be said of Len Brown.

            As I said earlier, the problem isn’t the extra-marital affair but societies damaging attitudes about sex which, thankfully, happen to be changing.

            • Tracey 14.2.1.1.3.1

              “the problem isn’t the extra-marital affair but societies damaging attitudes about sex which, thankfully, happen to be changing.”

              That will explain why Len told his wife… oh that’s right when he got a whiff it would be made public.

              I know a guy who had a drunken night with a woman, went home the next day and told his wife. Rough times and then they went away for ten days to get time to work it out. Still working it out.

              please dont compare Len Brown to this man… they have more than one point of difference.

              • Draco T Bastard

                Monogamy seems to be a learned behaviour not a natural one. It is this learned behaviour and society frowning on people who are promiscuous that caused Len Brown not to tell not, IMO, that he was doing anything wrong.

          • Tracey 14.2.1.1.4

            what if you lie from 2007 to 2013, are you fit to be PM?

  15. JLLJames 16

    Surely this affair is pertinent information for the electorate given Len has been indulging in his infidelity during the time when he was meant to be doing his job. If this was in the private sector you would be dismissed.

    Try and hold everyone to the same standard rather than twist the facts every time. Only then will the Standard become a source of Reliable, Relevant, and Accurate information.

    • gobsmacked 16.1

      Try and hold everyone to the same standard rather than twist the facts every time.

      OK, so let’s hold everyone – your word – to that same standard.

      Today, all government Ministers must answer this question:

      “Have you ever been unfaithful to a partner, while you have been a government Minister?”

      According to you, anyone who says “Yes” must resign. Anyone who says “No” and is lying, must resign.

      Is that really what you want to happen? If not, why not?

      Think about it.

    • Colonial Viper 16.2

      If this was in the private sector you would be dismissed.

      Bullshit. Please name 3 NZ company General Managers, CEOs or corporate board Directors who were dismissed because of extramarital affairs.

      Bet you can’t even name one, because it hardly ever happens.

  16. Curtis 17

    Len Brown said he spoke to his wife last week about his affair. Perhaps she came out with this because she is heart broken? Not because of any political agenda.

    • framu 17.1

      to believe that youve got to ignore a hell of alot

      occams razor, past performance, known players and all that

  17. karol 18

    Brian Rudman asks, “what century do the Slaters think they are living in?”

    The Slater family failed to defeat Len Brown by masterminding John Palino’s campaign in last week’s mayoral election, so now we have a dirty blow beneath the belt.

    Former National Party president and Palino campaign manager John Slater couldn’t topple the Mayor fairly, now his son, Cameron, is trying to humiliate him out of office.

    Cameron Slater seems to have forgotten what century he’s living in. Marital infidelity is hardly a sacking offence in this day and age. The sleazy and infuriated out-pourings of the discarded mistress on his website might have shocked his grandparents’ generation, but today it’s more likely to raise little more than the odd snigger, and feelings of sympathy for Mr Brown’s family. What his Labour Party friends might think of him sleeping with a class enemy – a dreaded Citrat – is another matter.

    • grumpy 18.1

      Don’t think Rudman or Campbell’s die in a ditch efforts are very helpful to Len. They just highlight the fact that neither want to mention the clap or the threats. Rogue Trooper’s comment yesterday that “this is going to end badly” was very appropriate.

      • Colonial Viper 18.1.1

        Brown now has to move on and get on with the business of getting the new City Council together, and getting the business done for Auckland.

        He does and this personal life sexual shit fight in the media will be history in 72 hours.

  18. finbar 19

    The facts according to Len.Yes i have been having a affair.

  19. gobsmacked 20

    Len Brown went to strip clubs! Disgusting pervert! He MUST resign!

    Oh sorry, that was John Key who did that, and more than once, by his own admission. So he’s got to go.

    We can play this “Race to the Sleazy Bottom” all day. But there’s a reason why National MPs – especially male ones – aren’t clamouring for Brown to go.

    Some of those up on the high horse might want to ask themselves why.

  20. Enough is Enough 21

    Fairly hystirical title to this post.

    He’s been busy rooting some junior for a couple of years in his office. That is news. Always has been always will be. Just depends what side of the political fence the dirty rooter is sitting on as to whether you get offended by it being news.

    If it was Banks we just swap today’s Kiwiblog comments with the lot in here.

    Best way to show the Blob up is to ignore him. He will be smirkining at this post and ticking it up as a success. If we all put our heads down and get back to work he will have noone to play with.

  21. Rogue Trooper 22

    Hear from RNZ Midday Report that Quax and some other Blue Ducks are calling for him to resign, followed by issues now raised amongst the Pasifika communities and the appropriateness of his Matai status. hmmm, still not going to end well.

  22. Sanctuary 23

    As an aside, sad to see what an arsehole John Minto is being over this. No wonder he no one ever votes for him, when given the chance he is just a skinnier version of Slater.

    • grumpy 23.1

      …very astute. Takes some people a while…..

    • tinfoilhat 23.2

      Bullshit !

      John is taking the principled position of asking that those who voted for Brown should be given the chance to either endorse him again or not now that they have more information about the man’s character both at and away from work.

    • Murray Olsen 23.3

      I think John is wrong on this issue, but nowhere near as wrong as you are in comparing him to WhaleSpew. It is possible to be principled and wrong, like John is here.

  23. Rob 24

    An attack on democracy, really, amazing how you politicise and shift the blame on a low blow to his wife and kids. Good job , you must be really proud how intellectualise this shit away.

    He is lucky it didnt come out prior to the election, people down here are gutted by what he has done to himself and his family that are part of teh community. He has got a lot of ground to recover.

    If the election was happening now, the big Sth Akl support base that he has so enjoyed, based on Christian and family values would not be so supportive.

    I think its pretty clear that a few consistant Standard commentators do not care, as you guys put it “where elected officials put their genitals”. But down in the somewhat more real world, infidelity and the affect upon families and communities is treated a little more seriously.

    This guy has seriously let a lot of people down and as of yesterday does not have the same degree of trust and love with his community and just before you leap in to rip into me , I actually voted for him.

    • Colonial Viper 24.1

      I think your Right Wing traction is slipping. Seems like NZers don’t like Slater’s prurient approach to NZ politics.

      • Rob 24.1.1

        what right wing traction, you really don’t get it do you.

        • framu 24.1.1.1

          its amazing that you cant distinguish between the act, the politically motivated response, and what the response is hoping to achieve.

          as gobsmacked points out below

    • gobsmacked 24.2

      Criticising Brown for his behaviour is not an attack on democracy.

      Removing him from his elected office is an attack on democracy.

      Chalk, cheese.

      • Rob 24.2.1

        So , no elected official can held to account for their behaviours is that what you are saying?

        • karol 24.2.1.1

          No one is saying that. I’m very pleased to see John Banks being held to account in the courts for his political actions.

          Many here have been critical of Len Brown failing to support the Ports of Auckland workers.

        • gobsmacked 24.2.1.2

          No.

          I guess we have different views on “held to account”. I think having sex with an intern was wrong, but slaughtering thousands of Iraqis was vastly worse. So Bush should have been impeached, not Clinton.

          Banks has not (yet) been held to account for breaking the law, and lying repeatedly, while Brown has not broken any law. Which mayoral “sin” is greater?

          I’m happy with my moral compass, yours is up to you.

          Above all, I don’t take my moral instructions from the immoral bloggers and panty-sniffers like Slater. If they win, we ALL lose.

          • Rob 24.2.1.2.1

            No

            You can always point in almost all situations to other examples that are worse or more extreme or whatever, of course there are some terrible incidencies created by elected officials, this is why they need to be scutinised.

            If that makes you feel better about your moral compass good one, dont judge mine by it.

            Anyway , another supposed good guy is exposed for what he has done, hopefully they cabn pull through.

      • Rob 24.2.2

        You know, I don’t he will resign.

        At the next election I would certainly be considering things differently.

    • lprent 24.3

      …I actually voted for him…

      So did I, so did a lot of us.

      However (here is the important thing), we didn’t vote for his sex life. We didn’t vote on whatever way he was an upright citizen.

      We voted on his policies. So what is different today rather than when we voted sometime over the last few weeks? Sex, family and the like isn’t something that I even look at in a politician. That is the realm of prurient panty-sniffers like yourself.

      • Rob 24.3.1

        Top marks on the Lprent scale for name calling. Doesn’t take you long really does it.

        To some people, not you I realise this, do vote on the character of the person as well as their policies. Character is important in people, maybe this has always been your issue.

        You know the amount of references you have made about panty sniffing really makes you out to be an expert in the matter.

        • Rogue Trooper 24.3.1.1

          sorry Lynn, couldn’t help it, gotta :-D

        • lprent 24.3.1.2

          It is merely my plain-spoken description of someone that is far far too concerned about the intimate details of someone else’s life. If I’d been “name-calling” then I’d have been far more robust in my description than ‘prurient panty-sniffer’. If you don’t like it then don’t act like you deserve that description of your behaviour. I really can’t be bothered figuring out a polite shorthand way of describing a inane and obsessive fetish for gossip.

          Besides, using a robust description gets more of an amusing reaction from fools who are more concerned with appearances, politeness and manners than they are of reality. The type of crazies who’d figure out how to ignore things like genocide, rape, murder, or whatever by wrapping a “polite” label around their hypocrisy.

          If you’re relying on “character”, then I’d question *where* you could assess that from. The media just have the opinions of others, who in turn you have to try and figure out their character. Quite simply you’re making an assessment on the PR ability of the candidate and their campaign team.

          “Character” is something you could do in a small town. It is nigh well impossible in city of 1.4 million odd.

          • Rogue Trooper 24.3.1.2.1

            from “The type of crazies…to odd” is very well put Lynn.

          • Rob 24.3.1.2.2

            Auckland is actually a small town on a global scale. I have assessed his ‘character’ from his raft of meetings , statements made by himeself about himself and his regard to his family , how he has acted with his family in public, need I go on.

      • grumpy 24.3.2

        I suspect most people bought the package. A “nice guy”. Someone who could be trusted to keep his word and promises to the voters.

      • tinfoilhat 24.3.3

        “We voted on his policies. So what is different today rather than when we voted sometime over the last few weeks? Sex, family and the like isn’t something that I even look at in a politician. That is the realm of prurient panty-sniffers like yourself.”

        What an arrogant idiot you are, perhaps just perhaps some of the other voters do take into account sex, family and the like as well as policies when voting. Does that make them idiots and prurient pant-sniffers ?

  24. LynnW 25

    This makes me question Brown’s common sense and judgement. He deserves to be called a ‘dick head’ because anyone with his brain engaged would have seen that the woman in question is a determined self-publicist who wanted a political career.

    She’s also a bit of a hypocrite. She wrote this on her blog – about the qualities she wants in a partner:

    “Trustworthiness. When I share my secrets or personal life with someone, I won’t tolerate them being thrown back in my face or aired publicly. I need to know that I can trust my partner to never do this.”

    Whilst I would normally side with the woman in cases like this, I have to place her complaint about being made to feel like a prostitute alongside the fact that she was happy to have sex stark naked with a married man in the Council HQ.

    As to the texts she received being ‘lewd’ – adolescent perhaps – and the ‘threat’ sounded more like good advice.

    • Rob 25.1

      Oh well thats cleared it up, he is a dick head because of who he did it with , not because he did it. Real classy Lynn.

      I bet his wife & family can rest easy now knowing that only thing he did wrong was that he was giving it to a girl from the other side.

      • grumpy 25.1.1

        Cripes this thread is certainly an insight into left wing philosophy.
        “It’s not what is done but who is doing it” or “it’s only bad when the Right do it” bullshit.

        • framu 25.1.1.1

          is this thread saying either of those things?

          or is there some severe comprehension issues floating about?

          i do see a lot of “jesus that was dumb of brown – but lets examine the motives of his opponents” but very little, bordering on none of – “cool – cheating on your wife. Thats right on!”

        • gobsmacked 25.1.1.2

          Wrong, Grumpy.

          What we’re trying to do is establish the ground rules. For all, regardless of party. But every time we ask, you “righties” run away from the question.

          So, one more time – should all Ministers and MPs who have had affairs, now resign?

          Yes or no?

          • Rob 25.1.1.2.1

            Ok I’ll engage. I dont think that people should resign as a result of affairs.

            If an issue like this does get out into the public , then people will cast their votes and form their views accordingly, and those people outed will have to live with what they have done. If you promote yourself as being a Christian person in a marriage and faithful to your family and courting a fairly conservative community who hold these same values, then this community will view you differently after the affair, and I suppose this comes down to honesty and integrity.

            I suppose another issue with these sorts of things is the persons capability to recognise bad sitauations. People elected (or for that matter hold) positions of responsibility, they do need to be smart and aware. Its obvious that they are probably offered tempting situations almost daily, be it bribes, corruption, sex whatever. Of course just because they choose to have an affair does not mean they are doing other dodgy things, however it is that loss of trust and belief in that this elected person can make wise decisions on a repeated basis that is broken.

      • LynnW 25.1.2

        Glad you think my post was classy Rob. I try not to disappoint.

        You go ahead and put your own spin on things but the fact is Brown did something a load of people do or would do given the chance – and he did it with someone who was self centred / opportunistic / politically motivated/ naive (take your pick) and who chose to make it public via a right-wing blogger and to provide said blogger with a load of salacious details.

        I happen to think that, given such a monumental lapse of judgement, Brown should resign – but let’s not lose sight of the fact that his family will be hurt not just because he had an affair, but because of the way it was revealed.

        She’s a woman, not a girl; she courts publicity; has political ambitions and, while the far greater fault is his, she clearly didn’t care about Brown’s family during the affair nor did she care about the effects on them of the way she CHOSE to reveal it.

    • Murray Olsen 25.2

      Did she actually complain about being treated like a prostitute? What I read suggested that she was complaining about not being treated like one, i.e. she had no material gain to show for it at the end.

  25. captain hook 26

    look cameron slater is a piece of shit.
    all it proves is that Len Borwn has the cojones and he will get a third term.
    dig?

  26. The Lone Haranguer 27

    I suspect that the young lady in question went to Slater as a woman scorned, then figured she didnt want to verify stuff as she had an election to win.

    When she lost, and when Len Brown won, then she was happy to sign the affidavit and sell him down the river.

    This country decided a generation ago, that what happens in people bedrooms is not the business of the State. But for some reason, I dont recall that standard being kept when Richard Worth was caught with his pants down, and many on the left wanted his goolies on a plate. They got his head instead.

    For the sake of Mr Browns wife and kids, we should leave them alone.

  27. TheContrarian 28

    If you have are going to have an affair be prepared to get caught.
    If you are a public official having an affair be prepared to caught and have it get very ugly and very public so try and keep it in your pants – at least until you leave office.

    As to whether or not he is now unqualified to hold office or should resign my opinion is neither but that is the choice of the people he represents.

    • TheContrarian 28.1

      “As to whether or not he is now unqualified to hold office or should resign my opinion is neither”

      Errr, what I mean to say is he shouldn’t resign and he is still qualified. That sentence read weird.

  28. jaymam 29

    The National and ACT parties seemed happy to have Brash as leader no matter what he did in his private life.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10401658

    ‘The “other woman” in National leader Don Brash’s alleged affair has spoken for the first time of the “traumatic” impact of the allegations..'”

  29. on the fence 30

    Hi Guys

    Im all keen for not focusing on what Len does in his personal life. If he wants to have an affair thats all well and good (I dont wanna know nor do I have a right to know). However when the private life starts impacting on what he does in the Office is what concerns me. Many allegations have been made around him ummm having happy time in the office while talking to his mistress on the phone. Plus the whole meeting room sex allegation was stated by the mistress. Its all one sided however (as she is the one detailing the specifics here) but should Len Brown be held accountable for acting unprofessionally in the office? Im not saying he should resign but surely it warrants an investigation? In any other job just insinuating the above would be a major issue. Should it be investigated based on the above? How does one be held accountable in the position of Mayor if it was true?

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    UK travel magazine Conde Nast Traveler has just named Auckland the world’s friendliest city in its 2014 rankings. It introduces Auckland with a great photo that highlights the city’s growing urbanity: FRIENDLIEST: 1. Auckland, New Zealand Score: 86.0 (tie) We...
    Transport Blog | 01-10
  • Waterview Breakthrough
    On Monday Alice the Tunnel Boring Machine broke through at Waterview after tunnelling for the last 10 months. And here’s a video of it happening. One of the things that is really impressive is just how accurate the machine is...
    Transport Blog | 30-09
  • Fundamental incomprehension II
    Another day, and another journalist who just doesn't get it about the Greens. This time its Duncan Garner:The Green Party needs a serious rethink. For as long as they have been in Parliament, they have been a left wing party...
    No Right Turn | 30-09
  • An Open Letter to Green Party Supporters: Why I slagged off your Party
    Last week I called for a Bluegreen Party – an environmental party that I could in all conscience, vote for. It prompted a huge response, which confirmed to me there is a clear constituency that is not being serviced. I...
    Gareth’s World | 30-09
  • Parliament should decide
    Yesterday John Key began laying the groundwork to deploy kiwi troops to Iraq to fight in another pointless American war. And with the Labour Party distracted by its autocannibalism, its left to Winston Peters to stand up for democratic values...
    No Right Turn | 30-09
  • The problem with warmongers
    The problem with warmongers is they appear to have no empathy for their fellow human beings. That's because war, and the industrial complex behind it, is invariably built upon people's prejudices.History is littered with examples of prejudice being used as...
    The Jackal | 30-09
  • Australia to criminalise journalism
    Imagine this scenario: Australian spies seeking to fight domestic terrorism borrow the tactics of their American counterparts and start running agent provocateurs to "flush out" those with terrorist leanings. But an operation goes horribly wrong, and actually results in a...
    No Right Turn | 30-09
  • School funding failing vulnerable students – time for a better way?
    1 October 2014 Schools with the greatest needs get too little to meet those needs, says PPTA president Angela Roberts. The current school funding system is failing to support our most vulnerable students and this morning delegates at PPTA’s annual...
    PPTA | 30-09
  • Hold fast to your Mana – Harawira
    Hone Harawira today called on the voters of Tai Tokerau to hold fast to their mana, and not be dictated to by those party leaders who have ganged together to tell them how to vote. “I call on our people...
    Mana | 18-09
  • Media Advisory – Interview availability
    This is to advise all media that Hone Harawira will be available in Auckland tomorrow, Friday the 19th of September from 7am to 4pm for interviews relating to his recent press releases. If you are interested in interviewing Mr Harawira on...
    Mana | 18-09
  • Labour stands on proud record on Suffrage Day
    Women have come a long way in the 121 years since New Zealand became the first country to give them the vote on September 19 1893, but there is still more to do, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Carol Beaumont says....
    Labour | 18-09
  • Polling Booths asked to treat Maori voters with respect
    “Polling booths without Maori roll voting papers, Maori people not being offered assistance to vote, people getting sent from Whangarei to Wellsford to vote, Maori people getting turned away from voting because they didn’t have their ‘easy vote’ card, Maori...
    Mana | 17-09
  • Aussie Liberals embroiled in Key campaign
    John Key needs to explain why Australia’s Liberal Party is interfering in New Zealand domestic politics and is encouraging Kiwi voters across the ditch to vote for National just days out from the election, Labour’s campaign spokesperson Annette King says....
    Labour | 17-09
  • The MANA Plan for Beneficiaries and Income in Waiariki
    Median Personal Income for Waiariki is $21,700. Over 13,000 Maori who live in Waiariki rely upon a form of government benefit including the Unemployment Benefit, Sickness Benefit, Domestic Purpose Benefit and the Invalids Benefit. “If you’re lucky enough to have...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Māori development crucial to New Zealand’s future
    Labour recognises the concern of Māori about child poverty and the rising costs of living, and in Government will make a real difference to the wellbeing of whānau and iwi, Labour’s Māori Affairs spokesperson Nanaia Mahuta says. “As our Māori...
    Labour | 16-09
  • MAORI PARTY – DON’T COMPLAIN … WALK
    “If the Maori Party are serious about stopping government spying on NZ citizens then they should tell the Prime Minister to either stop doing it or they will walk away” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira, on...
    Mana | 16-09
  • JOHN KEY SUPPORTING LABOUR
    “There is something really sick about a National Party Prime Minister coming out in support of a Labour candidate” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira, after hearing that John Key is urging voters to back Labour in...
    Mana | 16-09
  • SHUT DOWN THIS GOVT NOT KAITI WINZ – Nikora
    “I’m going to make it as hard for you to get help as I can” is Paula Bennett’s message to the people of Kaiti  said MANA candidate Te Hāmua Nikora today in response to the news that National will close...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Winegums make for better polling – Harawira
    I wanted to laugh when I saw the Native Affairs poll the other night (Hone Harawira 38%, Kelvin Davis 37%) because it was almost the same as the one they did back in 2011”, said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau...
    Mana | 16-09
  • The Leadership of MTS Lied – Harawira
    “Normally I’m happy to tell people that I was right but when I received the news about the staff cuts at Maori Television, I had nothing but sympathy for the three Maori media leaders who are going to be made...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Privileges Complaint Laid against Prime Minister – Harawira
    MANA Movement Leader and Te Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira has today lodged a Privileges Complaint with the Speaker regarding the Prime Ministers denials in parliament that he knew anything about Kim Dotcom before 2012. “Information made public today appears...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Sharples’ new appointments are out of order
    The new appointments to the Waitangi Tribunal announced by Dr Pita Sharples this morning are completely out of order given the election is just five days away, says Labour's State Services spokesperson, Maryan Street. “This Government continues to show disdain...
    Labour | 15-09
  • MANA Movement Housing Policy
    “When families are living in cars, garages, cockroach-infested caravans and three families to a house then we have a housing crisis”, said MANA leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira. “When you have a housing crisis for low-income...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Bigger than the Foreshore and Seabed – Sykes
    “Over the past week I have received some disturbing information that has led myself and a number of Maori lawyers to conclude that this National - Maori Party - ACT and United Future Government are going to put an end to both...
    Mana | 14-09
  • MANA wants Te Reo Māori petition fulfilled
    Hone Harawira, MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Annette Sykes, MANA candidate for Waiariki Te Hāmua Nikora, MANA candidate for Ikaroa Rāwhiti  “More than four decades have passed and the petition calling for Te Reo Māori in schools...
    Mana | 14-09
  • I feel sorry for Labour Party members and supporters
    I feel really sorry for the members and supporters of the Labour Party as they watch their caucus tear itself to shreds. And no matter what the outcome of the coming leadership race Labour members and supporters will be the...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • Ummmm, why is Auckland Transport spying on Aucklanders?
    Ummm. What? Sophisticated surveillance coming to Auckland Surveillance technology that uses high definition cameras and software that can put names to faces and owners to cars is coming to Auckland. The surveillance has the capability to also scan social media...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • It. Is. About. The. Economy. Stupid.
    Liam Dann does a good job of explaining the positive and negative issues looming for the NZ economy and as dairy prices plunge again overnight alongside a large Wall st sell off  and China Bank rumours begin, his case for the negative...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • Don’t think of it as reinvading Iraq, think of it as redecorating Iraq
    I think some NZers view Iraq like an episode of The Block. Yes Iraq is the worst country on the street, but with a bit of elbow grease by our SAS and some great deals down at Bunnings, hey presto we...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Mana Maori alliance
    Most Maori you speak to on the street can’t understand why Mana movement and  Maori Party don’t combine it confuses them why Maori are divided cross benches in Parliament instead of a unified political power that represents 15% of the...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • Party members and affiliates – the real losers in Labour’s leadership f...
    Hey, wanna do a back room deal that cuts the members and affiliates out? Cunliffe must be reeling. He has lost failed Ilam candidate James Dann. It must cut as deep as the loss of Steve Gibson. Apart from providing Claire...
    The Daily Blog | 30-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, the election res...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, the election result...
    The Daily Blog | 30-09
  • The rich get richer
    Nobel prize winner Paul Krugman highlights the growing inequality in this article in the New York Times. The left wing slogan that the “the rich get richer” is a fact of almost perverse power. The most recent period of expansion in the...
    The Daily Blog | 30-09
  • A brief word on reinvading Iraq
    So after telling the country before the election that NZ would not send forces to Iraq, lo and behold now he’s won the election with a full spectrum dominance political majority, Key is suddenly now looking to join the re-invasion of...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • A brief word on the importance of ACT, Maori Party and United Future to Nat...
    I’m a far right wing clown who attacks tax money going on anything collective, gimmie some cash and privilege.  One of the great successes of National has been to implement hard right policy but have it sold as moderate. For some NZers,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • Labour’s Angst
    Was Labour’s predictably low vote David Cunliffe’s fault? Was it policy? Was it something else that has aroused perceptions of electoral carnage? My analysis of the numbers suggests that, as uncertain voters made up their minds, there was a late...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • Information wars: Gaza as “the last taboo”, the threat of mass surveill...
    “When the truth is replaced with silence” wrote the soviet dissident Yevgeni Yevtushenko, “the silence is a lie.” There has been a silence these past months full of noise, static and sound bites of those in power justifying their violence,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • When the media say they covered Dirty Politics – did they?
    I was watching The Nation in the weekend, and watched the defenders of NZ media up against Minto telling him he was wrong in his claims of media bias and that the media covered Dirty Politics. I laughed. When the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • GUEST BLOG – P Campbell – To the Left with love
    A week after the general election results I feel wrung out emotionally, having been through the disappointment, depression and anger of seeing  another right wing government elected overwhelmingly by winning support from the parts of NZ that will never benefit...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – I will be the new Labour Leader!
    One week after the election, while I was still waiting to be consulted about contributing to the review on what went wrong, what do you know? There is a leadership challenge. So instead of opting for a united, thoughtful and...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – A Prescient Post
    A very prescient pre-election post by Martyn Bradbury tells us why the Labour Party are at war now. “The NZ First-Labour Party attack strategy against Internet MANA better work” Despite Martyn Bradbury warning them this Right Wing strategy “Better Work”...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – W(h)ither Labour (!/?)
    There’s an old saying that success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan. Not so in the Labour Party, wherein soul-crushing defeat on a scale unseen since 1925 definitely has many fathers (and more than a few mothers and...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • At the end of the day…
    At the end of the day…...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • Cynicism towards Key’s sudden desire to help children in poverty
    Cynicism towards Key’s sudden desire to help children in poverty...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • Internet MANA the election and the media
    I’ve been very critical of media reporting of Internet MANA during the election campaign and not surprised at the predictable response from representatives of the corporate media establishment. I wasn’t going to carry this further but was asked at the...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Rachel Jones – A superficial discourse analysis of a superfic...
    On Sunday there was a story about Paddy Gower and his detached retina in the Herald on Sunday. Really? I hear you ask. Really? Yes, really. Pam Corkery will have sprayed toast crumbs over her dressing gown. The reporter has become...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • Terrorising Australia’s Muslim population
    We should be suspicious when 800 police conduct “terror” raids across Australia, but only one person is charged with a relevant terrorism offence (of which we know few details). We should be suspicious of the lurid tales of terrorists planning...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • Another Labour leader has resigned and as per usual, the media lost its min...
    Another Labour leader has resigned and as per usual, the media lost its mind. I know the Labour party has its problems and I’m not even going to try to prescribe what should be done about it. But what I...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Loyalty, Leadership and the Labour Party
    My first after the election and I can only say I’m feeling pretty sad.  It was a terrible result, and feels even more so knowing the number of volunteers hours, hard work & sacrifice made by so many people who...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • A Study in Party Stability
    . In terms of long-term stability, one party above stands above all others, with the exception of personality-driven groups such as NZ First and United Future. That party is the Greens. If the Labour Party wants to look elsewhere for...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • Cunliffe vs Robertson – Round 2
    Much to the disappointment of the NZ Herald and other right wing pundits who have decided they would like to appoint the next Labour leader, Cunliffe has surprised by deciding to damn the Caucus and appeal directly to the members...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • The tasks before the left and labour movement
    Anyone on the left would have been disappointed at the result of the election. There was an opportunity to win, but that got lost through a combination of factors. There were tactical decisions made by Labour, the Greens and Internet-Mana...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • From Fiji’s dictatorship to ‘democracy’ – the AUT student team on t...
    Mads Anneberg’s profile on Ricardo Morris and Repúblika. David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. THREE STUDENTS from AUT University covered Fiji’s historic “from dictatorship to democracy” general election this month. While the election arguably legitimised Voreqe Bainimarama’s so-called 2006...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • David Cunliffe Resigns As Labour Leader – Forces Robertson Out of the Bel...
    David Cunliffe has made a smart move, resigning as the leader of the Labour Party so as to force a leadership primary campaign. The move draws rival Grant Robertson out of the beltway to parts of the country where he...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • Deep thought vs Deep prejudice
    . . This letter to the editor appeared in The Listener, on 27 September, and caught my attention; . . Mr Dawson wrote in response to one of those typically unthinking comments which  condemned the poor for their “unbridled, reckless...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • The NZ National voters elected
    The NZ National voters elected...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – The post election postmortem is giving me post p...
    I feel the need to contribute to the discourse. This is a new experience for me. Not having an opinion, but expressing it on a popular forum in a public sphere. That’s why I have waited till now and put...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • A dictionary of education terms and definitions, brought to you by the let...
    Free to all TDB readers, please enjoy your very own cut-out-and-keep handy primer of terms that I predict you will need to know over the next three years… Achievement Gap (noun) Synonym for wealth gap. ACT (abstract noun) Intangible. Reported to exist in...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • A Mines Rescue brigadesman’s perspective on the Pike River Mine
    My husband and I lived in Greymouth in 2010, we were a coal mining family.  The day Pike River Mine blew up and the days following changed us profoundly, as it did for so many.  This is a Mines Rescue...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • The Left Triumphant! A Counterfactual History of the Last Twelve Months.
    DID IT REALLY HAVE TO END LIKE THIS? Reading through the commentary threads of the left-wing blogs it is impossible to not feel the anger; the sense of betrayal; the impression of having had something vital ripped from their grasp;...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • GUEST BLOG – Myles Thomas: The media won it!
    Make no mistake, John Key is a clever communicator – reasonable, authoritative and relaxed – but without the media he wouldn’t be PM. Depending on your viewpoint, New Zealand’s news media are either a bunch of Grey Lynn lefties or...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • Not Learning Lessons Past: the West’s Response to IS
    In an earlier posting Ukraine, United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland, I noted that the first lesson of conflict learned by Robert McNamara was “understand your adversary”. If we have honourable objectives, our first and most important weapon is empathy. In the Vietnam War,...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Dr Jarrod Gilbert – Proof of David Farrar’s deception: my ...
    In the lead up to the election the Minister of Corrections Anne Tolley launched a gang policy. In order to justify the government’s approach she used gang figures that overstated the gang problem. Not by a little bit, but a...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • SPECIAL FEATURE: Stuart Nash – Red To The Rescue?
    SPECIAL FEATURE by Selwyn Manning. IF THE ELECTION RESULT which was dished out to Labour was not enough to incite an immediate leadership primary, then the caucus’ refusal to recognise David Cunliffe as the leader should cement it. Now is...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • Has the one party state crackdown begun already? Left wing NZ activist grou...
    Well known left wing activist social media group, ‘John Key Has Left Down NZ’ has been shut down on Facebook. At 11.40pm last night, Facebook, without any warning shut the group down siting a breach of terms of service as...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • Why Cunliffe should probably just let Nash & Robertson win
    We have to face some very unpalatable home truths. If you are a left wing political person, best you put your vote now to the Green Party, although you’ll have to do that all the while the Greens frantically tell you...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • The graceless win of Kelvin Davis
    The graceless win of Cameron Slater’s mate in the North, Kelvin Davis is difficult to swallow. Here Cameron Slater’s mate in the North is shitting on Hone Harawira by calling Hone all steam, no hangi as Kelvin rubs his ganged up win into...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • So Labour shifted too far to the left?
    So Labour shifted too far to the left?   Here’s the ill-judged view of Josie Pagani in the Pundit “Labour must change”: “At the last election I made myself a heretic when I wrote a column mentioning how unpopular the...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • Uncomplicated Loyalties: Why Cunliffe and the Labour Left Cannot Win
    THE STORY of David Cunliffe’s leadership of the Labour Party has been one of missed opportunities and unforced errors. That he was the only choice available to those who wanted to rid the Labour Party of its neoliberal cuckoos is...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • So we can expect this now?
    So we can expect this now?...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • Can Labour be saved? Why Whaleoil & National won and why we need a new ...
    As the shock of my optimism that NZers would recoil from the real John Key as exposed by Dirty Politics and mass surveillance duplicities wears off, I am surprised to find that the right in NZ are not content with...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • Three more years (up shit creek and paddling hard)
    “If the future is not green, there is no future. If the future is not you, there is no future”. Emma Thompson’s stirring words to the climate marchers in London last Sunday are worth considering in the aftermath of the...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • One Party State
    In years to come this election will be seen as a historic turning point towards one party rule. I don`t mean this literally, absolute single party dictatorship is not in prospect. In the New Zealand context though, one party has...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • No More. The Left Falls.
    . We cannot be beaten down Because we are down already. We can only rise up and if you should beat us down, We will rise again. And again. And again… And when you tire of beating us down, We...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • Hang tight everyone – Marama Davidson campaign reflection
    To the many people who had expressed their overwhelming support for me to enter Parliament this election – thank you. That the Greens held steady in a big loss for progressive politics is an achievement. We are hopeful that after...
    The Daily Blog | 22-09
  • How You Can Help the Homeless
    At any one time, there are an estimated 357 homeless people in Central Auckland alone, many enduring hardships beyond the rain, wind and cold of sleeping rough. October 10 is World Homeless Day when the public are invited to learn...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Over 20% of Gold Production Now Pledged to Kiwifruit Claim
    Kiwifruit growers representing over 20% of New Zealand gold kiwifruit production have already pledged to join The Kiwifruit Claim, the chairman of the claim’s grower committee, John Cameron, said today....
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • ‘Creepy’ Decision on Up-Skirt Filming Slammed
    Family First NZ says that a discharge without conviction given to a man who filmed up a woman's dress in a Wellington department store is a ‘creepy’ decision that should concern all people who value their privacy. “This decision by...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Speaker leads delegation to CPA Conference
    Strengthening New Zealand’s ties with parliaments from across the world will be the focus of the upcoming delegation to the 60th Commonwealth Parliamentary Association (CPA) Conference in Yaoundé, Cameroon from 4-10 October and the 131st Inter-Parliamentary...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Response to Russell Brown and Tertiary Education Union
    The allegation that I have worked with others to discredit public health efforts is wrong. My public comments in relation to public health researchers have been where academics have mislead the public about official support or endorsement, and where...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • 17 jobs lost as Bridon/Cookes reaches the end of its rope
    Seventeen workers at the iconic Bridon/Cookes wire rope company in Auckland are to be made redundant as the company ceases production in New Zealand. The company has blamed the high New Zealand dollar for making it uncompetitive to keep the...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Slip in University Rankings – Funding Not the Problem
    Responding to the slippage of New Zealand universities' rankings , Jordan Williams, Executive Director of the Taxpayers’ Union says:...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Time to rethink police chases, says safety campaigner
    Police chases are dangerous and generally unnecessary, says the American Federal Bureau of Investigation....
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Robertson now expected to be Labour leader by Xmas
    Grant Robertson is now overwhelmingly picked to become the next leader of the Labour Party by the end of the year, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. Another potential Labour...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Documenting historic Māori land law cases for the first time
    A new book from Victoria University of Wellington’s Faculty of Law will continue to put the spotlight on Māori Land Law judgments which have never before been published....
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • ‘Oily’ people greet Petroleum Summit diners
    Greenpeace activists smeared in fake oil have greeted guests arriving at the part-Statoil sponsored Petroleum Summit dinner this evening....
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Key Decisions Made About Labour’s Leadership Election
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has made the key decisions about the timetable and process around the election of Labour’s Party Leader. The result will be announced on Tuesday 18th November, following a comprehensive and extensive process unique...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Suspected $6 Million Dollar Wananga Fraud Alarming
    The Taxpayers’ Union is calling on on the Te Whare Wananga o Awanuiarangi to front up over claims the Wananga has pocketed government overpayments amounting to $6 million of taxpayers' money. Jordan Williams, Executive Director of the Taxpayers’ Union...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Submissions sought on herbicide for weed control in maize
    The Environmental Protection Authority is calling for submissions on a herbicide to improve broadleaf weed control in maize. The substance CADET contains 100g fluthiacet-methyl in the form of an emulsifiable concentrate and would contain a new active ingredient...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Jesse Mulligan Lives Below Poverty Line
    Jesse Mulligan Lives Below Poverty Line TV personality Jesse Mulligan will live on the equivalent of the extreme poverty line this October in order to raise awareness of sex trafficking. Mulligan will survive on $2.25 for his food from October...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Narratives from the 2014 Election: What do we learn?
    Narratives from the 2014 Election: What do we learn? - Sue Bradford, Russell Brown & Kirk Serpes discuss....
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Voices from Oceania to speak out on climate change
    Voices from Oceania to speak out on climate change at launch of Pacific environment report...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Changes to Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre messages
    The Ministry of Civil Defence & Emergency Management advises that while changes to Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre messages come into effect from today (Wednesday 1 October), the Ministry has been, and remains, the authoritative voice for tsunami...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Police remove banner at Statoil Offices in Wellington
    Oil Free Wellington hung a banner at 9:30 this morning at the Statoil office headquarters in Wellington as the Petroleum Summit opened in Auckland. The banner, which read 'Statoil out of Northland: Stop Deep Sea Oil', has now been removed...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Mixed massages raise concerns
    Mixed massages raise concerns for Te Taumata Kaumatua Ngapuhi nui tonu, and Te Wakaminenga O nga Hapu Ngapuhi....
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Union Slams Port Boss’s Pay Rise
    The Rail and Maritime Transport Union (RMTU) says Lyttelton Port CEO Peter Davie’s 18% wage rise, taking his pay packet to $1.24m, is unjustified and inflammatory. ‘Lyttelton port has an appalling health and safety record, with three deaths on...
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Prisons expert Ron Nikkel to speak in Auckland October 15
    Prison Fellowship NZ and JustSpeak have the privilege of hosting the former president of Prison Fellowship International, Ron Nikkel....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Hundreds of educators protest IES in Rotorua
    Four hundred educators from around the country took their opposition to the Government's controversial Investing in Educational Success policy to the public today....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Crime drops by 3.2 % in the 2013 / 2014 financial year
    Criminal offences dropped by 3.2 % in the last financial year according to figures released today through Statistics New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Narratives from the 2014 Election: what do we learn?
    I would like to invite you to a Fabians Reflection on "Dirty Politics, Dotcom and Labour’s worst result" with Colin James, Keith Ng, Stephanie Rodgers and Richard Harman. They will provide a debrief of analysis and lessons from the 2014...
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Oil Free Wellington drops banner from Statoil headquarters
    Today members of Oil Free Wellington have targeted the offices of Statoil, by attaching a banner reading 'Statoil out of Northland: Stop Deep Sea Oil' to the entrance of Vodafone on the Quay Midland Park, where Statoil's New Zealand office...
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Media Statement from Karen Price
    “After a period of intense media attention and scrutiny of our family, I set up and used an anonymous Twitter account over the weekend and made a number of comments that I deeply regret....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Greenpeace disrupts Simon Bridges’ speech to oil industry
    Greenpeace activists have disrupted the opening speech by Energy and Resources Minister Simon Bridges at the Petroleum Summit in Auckland this morning....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • New Zealand Red Cross Responds to Drought in Tonga
    New Zealand Red Cross has sent an aid worker and two desalination units, to turn seawater into safe drinking water in the drought-hit Ha’apai islands of Tonga....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Can you ever tell if an email is real or forged?
    Computer industry veteran Brian Eardley-Wilmot warns that we should never take claims about stolen emails at face value....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • NZ MPs to attend the ASPG Annual Conference in Sydney
    New Zealand MPs to attend the Australasian Study of Parliament Group Annual Conference in Sydney...
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Independent Maori seats still needed in Parliament
    “He’s got to be joking!” is the reaction of the president of the Maori Party, Rangimarie Naida Glavish to a call by a former Labour Minister of Maori Affairs, Dover Samuels, for debate by Maori on whether the Maori electorates...
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Support for Democratic Rights in Hong Kong
    Rallies supporting the rights for universal suffrage will take place all over New Zealand today and tomorrow...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Trout Mass-Poisoned in New Zealand
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