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The cleaner & the ugly face of National

Written By: - Date published: 7:05 am, September 27th, 2013 - 162 comments
Categories: capitalism, class war, jobs, wages, workers' rights - Tags:

Imagine that your job was to clean 130 toilets every day. Imagine the grinding unpleasantness of it. Imagine the horrors some disgusting person would regularly leave for you to deal with. Imagine you do that for just above the minimum wage, barely enough to support your family, far from enough to live a real life. And imagine seeing one of the people whose shit you clean sneer at you.

Watch this. Listen to these poor working women plead with the rich people in suits to give them just a taste of the life that they take for granted. See Tau Henare (a man who was once a union organiser, for fuck’s sake) sneer and say she should give her job to someone else if she doesn’t like it.

Someone, Tau, has to do the job of cleaning up your shit or your office would soon stink of it and worse. That person is as human and as worthy of basic human dignity as you. And, unlike you, she works hard for her money, when was the last time you contributed anything of value to society? Arsehole.

As for Henare’s ‘solution’ – what happens when the woman gives up the job? Some other poor desperate person has to take it and endure the same conditions. She herself can’t get the benefit because she gave up a job voluntarily and she’ll be bloody lucky to get another job in John Key’s economy where 50,000 more people are unemployed than when he came to office.

‘She should educate herself, get a better job’, says the smug rightie. Still doesn’t change the fact that someone has to do the job and they deserve dignity. And how is a working class Pasifika mother meant to be able to afford to get educated? She can’t afford to take the time off work, and there’s no government support for her to get an education on the benefit thanks to Paula Bennett who took away the Training Incentive Allowance.

And, now, rather than pay these people a living wage, National wants to make a crappy, low-paid job worse by making it possible for cleaning contractors to fire existing staff and hire them back at worse pay when contracts change hands.

A job and a fair wage in return for your hard work. It’s something that anyone deserves, but it’s more than National thinks that you’re worth.

162 comments on “The cleaner & the ugly face of National”

  1. miravox 1

    How is that relevant? Are Labour and the Greens responsible for the contract? Are Labour and the Greens promising a living wage?

    Do Labour and the Greens support this piece of legislation designed to remove job protection for cleaners? Shall I answer these questions for you?

  2. tinfoilhat 2

    The Greens are committed to and pay at the very minimum a living wage.

    • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 2.1

      You should get paid more for cleaning up a vegetarian’s shit.

      • amirite 2.1.1

        Those who are cleaning your shit must be getting a CEO’s pay then.

        • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 2.1.1.1

          I am not a vegetarian.

          • thatguynz 2.1.1.1.1

            Perhaps not but given how regularly you demonstrate just how full of shit you are, one would suggest that cleaning up after you would be a hell of a job..

            • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 2.1.1.1.1.1

              Displaying your superior intellect again there I see, thatguynz.

      • phillip ure 2.1.2

        @ gormless..

        ..do you prefer the odour of rotting flesh and animal fats..?

        ..whoar..!

        ..phillp ure..

        • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 2.1.2.1

          I am not discussing my shit with you, Phil.

          • phillip ure 2.1.2.1.1

            u threw the first turd..eh..?

            ..and why the vegetarian-hate..?

            ..(and such a bad/lame ‘joke’..and from a mitchell-fan..?..hang yr head..!..)

            ..do you have financial interests in the flesh-trade..?

            ..and seriously..there is a school of thought that holds that people will never treat people decently/with respect.

            ..until people first treat animals decently/with respect..

            ..eh..?

            ..and i’d bet a vege-casserole to a meat-pie..

            ..that henare hasn’t even heard of that school of thought..eh..?

            ..and would likely share yr curled-lip contempt of those ‘vegetarians’..

            ..so..there you sit..with henare..

            ..(and i speak to you again as a fellow mitchell-fan..)

            ..henare ain’t at all funny…eh..?

            ..and you want vegan-funny..?

            ..this is from a piece i found this morn:..titled ‘the 19 most annoying things about being a vegan’..

            “..10. Getting lumped in with the gluten-free people.

            For Christ’s sake, it’s already hard enough!!!..”

            (now that..is funny..)

            ..phillip ure..

            • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 2.1.2.1.1.1

              I bet David Mitchell is a meat eater.

            • Rosie 2.1.2.1.1.2

              Onya Phil. Don’t know why some folks are obsessed with belittling vego’s after all these years, and even more childish, considering their fecal matter, as if this has anything to do with the topic anyway.Are they stuck in the 50′s?

              V funny point 10 “Getting lumped in with the gluten free people”. I have actually had this happen to me. Long story, involving an awkward social blunder recovery moment. But who’s off topic now lol.

      • tinfoilhat 2.1.3

        Not sure why you think that The greens are all vegetarians but I will defer to your expertise in all things scatological.

  3. vto 3

    Tau Henare is a pig. As are his mates who are supporting this. All pigs. oink oink, go sit with Matthew Hooton. Horrible horrible National Party people.

    What a disgusting arsehole of a man.

    He will get his comeuppance one day, that is for sure.

    • amirite 3.1

      + 1

      To be fair, he only said what most tories think to themselves but don’t dare to say it loud.

      • Tom Gould 3.1.1

        Remember how the MSM was all over Charles Chauvel when he had a moan about a crying kid on a plane? Where are the big chooks now on this grotesque example of arrogance and selfishness and entitlement? Not a peep, not a word.

    • Scatalogical thread is inevitalbe.

      Trying not to imagine Tau grinning smugly as he walks out of a Beehive bathroom, having shotgunned the bowl due to the backup brought on by a roid and potato diet. Too late.

    • North 3.3

      No mana. An out and out kupapa sucking ShonKey Python for the $160,000 or whatever it is he gets annually. Thing is he’d adopt that pose for anyone who had the power to ensure the putea. No mana but sure jumps on board the mana waka when it suits him. He’s a joke in the North.

    • newsense 3.4

      Someone should make a toilet bowl brush of Henare, would be more satisfying to use than the chew toys…

    • The Labour Party needs to show these comments and TV news item every day throughout the election campaign.
      Yhis is true National Party ideology at is best,

  4. lurgee 4

    Surely ‘ugly face’ suggests a bit of confusion as to the mechanics of the defecation process? It doesn’t come from the face – except when John Key is speaking.

    Other than that, well said.

  5. karol 5

    Darien Fenton, Labour MP against the employment law changes and for the cleaners in schools, Parliament, etc.

    said yesterday, Listen to the Cleaners Mr Bridges:

    Simon Bridges should meet with the cleaners who today told Parliament about their fears for their work, their families and the health of their local communities under his proposed changes to labour laws, Labour’s Associate Labour spokesperson Darien Fenton says.

    “Cleaners representing schools, Parliament and the police college have warned MPs on the Transport and Industrial Relations Select Committee about the impact of proposed changes to Part 6A of the Employment Relations Act.

    “Not only will the changes lower their pay and cut their hours, it will affect the quality of work they are able to do.

    “School Cleaners are particularly vulnerable, as even the largest of schools have fewer than 20 cleaners and will be subject to the proposed changes. Their jobs and pay will no longer be protected if their contractor changes hands or the work is franchised.

  6. Colonial Viper 6

    Cleaners do more good for society than the parasitic banking industry. But we have an economy which rewards pursuing excessive financial greed, and takes for granted jobs which physically help society.

  7. geoff 7

    Does it break the Standard’s anti-violence policy to suggest that someone should fling a turd at Tau Henare?

    [lprent: Probably. And hypothetically I could ban for hypotheticals as well. ]

    • private baldric 7.1

      Nah

      Celebrity death match between Tau H and Trev M with the winner receiving a bungee jump from the top of the sky tower sans bungee.

  8. pollywog 8

    Tau always struck me as a crawly bumlicking toady and i’m a fairly good judge of character.

  9. One Anonymous Knucklehead 9

    Henare’s failure to muster even the tiniest shred of human decency, Bridge’s pants-on-fire assertions that the changes are about “fairness”, can only serve to remind people what the National Party is.

  10. Saarbo 10

    “unlike you, she works hard for her money, when was the last time you contributed anything of value to society? Arsehole.”

    Hear, hear…well put!

  11. shorts 11

    I’d support any party that proposed MPs get paid the living wage and value cleaners far higher than many of those who hold power in this land

  12. greywarbler 12

    I learned from the delorean link that there were some great figures connected with the film Back to the Future. To drool over if you are an investor.
    Budget $US99M
    Box office $US957.6M
    Sorry off thread but wow. Can cleaners get into that sort of budget?

    Unfortunately you can’t make an appearance on any stage when you are invisible. And that is how the managers and indeed the general public treat such workers. Though they want the tidy clean results of their work to be visible. It’s paradoxical thinking.

  13. Rosie 13

    A moment of shear gobsmackedness was experienced watching this clip on the news last night. Purely unbelievable. Tau Henare is a paid up of member of Cruel Bastards Inc. Does he have no understanding of the work content for these women, the difficulty of life for low paid workers and the right to work security, and not to mention dignity?

    He needs to have a little think about that and then apologise to these women and all other workers he has insulted by his comments. He can follow that up by thanking them for doing a remarkable job.

  14. Tracey 14

    Cant find it online at stuff or the herald

  15. Lightly 15

    The cleaning contract is run by Parliamentary Services, not the political parties. Labour and the Greens have called on Parliamentary Services to pay its staff and contractors the living wage.

  16. To be fair, he only said what most tories think to themselves but don’t dare to say it loud.

    Oh, they say it out loud alright, and write it on blog comments threads – you just don’t usually find one of their elected representatives blathering it to the TV cameras.

  17. Curtis 17

    Was she not actually concerned with potentially losing her job because of the law change? Did Tau actually bother to listen to her because I don’t understand his logic “Oh you’re worried about losing your job? Well give it to someone else then?” Who does he think he is some kind of Aristocrat and all us peasants should be happy with the scraps he and his mates gives us?

    • Draco T Bastard 17.1

      Who does he think he is some kind of Aristocrat and all us peasants should be happy with the scraps he and his mates gives us?

      Yes, that would be exactly what he, and the rest of the National Party hierarchy, are thinking.

    • Puddleglum 17.2

      “Was she not actually concerned with potentially losing her job because of the law change? Did Tau actually bother to listen to her because I don’t understand his logic “Oh you’re worried about losing your job? Well give it to someone else then?”

      Well spotted.

      It’s as if he automatically defaulted to the idea that they were too ‘fussy’ and didn’t want to be cleaners. As if he only had a small repertoire of dog whistle responses to these kinds of situations: ‘Toilet cleaner complaining = lazy would-be beneficiary who thinks all work is beneath her’

      Disturbing stuff.

  18. AmaKiwi 18

    Congratulations, Tau! If we can make that snide remark into a Kim Dotcom style U-Tube clip, we can motivate a lot of people to vote these creeps out in 2014.

    Same for John Key’s “no need to be honest” remark.

    We have lots of creative young Lefties. Here’s their chance to become famous and do a good deed at the same time. Much more effective than speeches and hoardings. Cheaper than TV ads.

    David Cunliffe, can we make U-Tube our new media outlet?

  19. srylands 19

    I don’t support the living wage campaign. New Zealand already has a very high minimum wage.

    Just a note on cleaners. I am surprised more don’t become more entrepreneurial. I have my house cleaned once a fortnight. I pay $70 for 2.5 hours cleaning. The guy does a great job. He is 65, just started getting Super, and has 6 clients, giving him a nice top up to his retirement income.

    The key point is he was hard to get. Good cleaners can make a decent living. The “minimum|” wage is a minimum. A bit of effort can get you a lot more even if you are a cleaner. This is down to personal effort, not yet more efforts by the state to regulate markets.

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 19.1

      Reality check: success is driven by chance, not hard work. Yeah yeah, I know, you have blind dogmatic faith in your opinion, but your opinion is worthless.

      • srylands 19.1.1

        “Reality check: success is driven by chance, not hard work. ”

        Seriously bad shit must have happened to you. Are you brain damaged?

      • infused 19.1.2

        God, this confirms your a fucking moron.

        • One Anonymous Knucklehead 19.1.2.1

          Yes, shoot the messenger, that always works. Lots of people work hard. A few of them achieve riches and/or success. The difference is luck.

        • Bruce 19.1.2.2

          Grammar police: “your” should be “you’re” as in “you are”. I spot a moron.

          • Brett Dale 19.1.2.2.1

            Bruce.

            This was Voted best tweet ever by the twitter universe.

            “Hey Grammar police, it’s YOU’RE GOING TO DIE ALONE”

            Something to think about.

            Man all my years of working, only to be told it comes down to luck, as why
            people are successful.

      • Brett Dale 19.1.3

        One Knucklehead:

        You say success is driven by chance and not hardwork?????

        That is not cemented in reality, Infact, I dont think I will read anything you write again.

        • One Anonymous Knucklehead 19.1.3.1

          Check the facts. Lots of people work hard. Police, nurses, miners, etc.

          The hard work might bring you riches and success, if you are lucky. Don’t shoot the messenger. I am not making this up. It formed the basis of Warren Buffett’s challenge to US tax policy, for example, but he didn’t make it up either.

          The best examples are the innate income advantages and disadvantages delivered at birth, or being tall, or dark haired, or male.

    • Delia 19.2

      These women are supporting families. They are talking about job security. They cannot run around town with x number of clients if they have child care responsibilities. If you think cleaners are over paid, go and be one. Obviously in your fantasy you would make a killing.

      • srylands 19.2.1

        “These women are supporting families.”

        Don’t be so stupid. Their kids are at school. My cleaner only works 9-3. Where did I state that cleaners are over paid? I don’t need to be a cleaner. I did 4 years of shit jobs on minimum wage while I was at university. It taught me that I did not want to do that forever.

        If people have made the decision to not aspire beyond minimum wage jobs they should not aspire to have children. They simply can’t afford them

        • Hayden 19.2.1.1

          If people have made the decision to not aspire beyond minimum wage jobs…

          Where is the evidence that everyone on minimum wage has made that decision?

        • karol 19.2.1.2

          should not aspire to have children

          Interesting way to describe sex.

        • Te Reo Putake 19.2.1.3

          Oh, goody, another eugenics fan crawls out from under his rock. The fact is that cleaners do aspire to be above minimum wage, which is why their union is so active in the Living Wage campaign. Its lowlifes like you that stop their aspirations being met.

        • framu 19.2.1.4

          “If people have made the decision to not aspire beyond minimum wage jobs they should not aspire to have children. They simply can’t afford them”

          im going to cut straight to the logical end of this discussion

          your an inhuman piece of trash – GFY

          come back when your ready to actually engage and have disposed of your pathetic, disgusting and immoral little fantasy world

        • One Anonymous Knucklehead 19.2.1.5

          Planet Srylands, where procreation is neat and tidy and matches faith-based drivel. Planet Earth, where the poorest people have the most children. Never the twain shall meet.

        • Tracey 19.2.1.6

          didnt you say that you needed 150k before you should even consider children, preferably 200K? That’s way beyond minimum wage aspirations.

          Essentially you just want people like you to be breeding, whereas I am pleased to see the borth rates amongst folks like you are declining.

          • srylands 19.2.1.6.1

            didnt you say that you needed 150k before you should even consider children, preferably 200K? That’s way beyond minimum wage aspirations.”

            Are you drunk behind that bar in Hamilton again Tracey with an e?

            Not quite what i said – Yes I did say that you needed 200K to live in a decent Auckland suburb and live a decent life and have 2 kids. That is not a remarkable conclusion.

            Yes I did know that birth rates decline with both income and educaion levels. Are you so obtuse that you think that is news?

            • Tracey 19.2.1.6.1.1

              You seem quite fixated about Hamilton and drinking.

              http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-22092013/#comment-700014

              Anyway for completeness here is what you wrote

              “A household income of 100K is totally unremarkable. If you live in Auckland and had a couple of kids, you would need a household income of at least 150k to live a half decent life (200K to live a fully decent life). Any income less than that in Auckland and you should give up on having kids (or live somewhere else).

              If you are aged 30+, in good health, and you are involuntariliy earning less than $60K, you have made some poor life decisions about education, work, or both plus a bunch of other things.”

              Next time you are pretending to be in Wellington you ought to have dinner with Mathew Hooten. You can just sit and nod at each other all night long.

        • amirite 19.2.1.7

          Srylands -If children were treated as simple economic units like you seem to think, no one would ever have them because it wouldn’t make any financial /economic sense to have them.
          The only upside of that is that the likes of you wouldn’t have never been born.

        • Sable 19.2.1.8

          Not everyone is lucky enough to have a university education whilst others may not be capable. Does that mean these people should be condemned to a life of misery? I thought you were misguided srylands now I see you are in fact much worse than that. Shame on you sunshine….

        • fender 19.2.1.9

          Srylands trying to outdo Henare for arsehole of the week award.

          Would like to know how anyone could competently deal with the bullshit dribble pouring out of your cakehole in 2.5 hours once every 2 weeks, must use a fire hose.

        • Draco T Bastard 19.2.1.10

          If people have made the decision to not aspire beyond minimum wage jobs they should not aspire to have children.

          The problem you fail to see is that these people can’t afford to aspire to better paying jobs. They don’t have the necessary resources to go back to school and the present system keeps them in that position.

          Think about it: Where are they going to get the money to start a cleaning business? To buy the van, the tools and the supplies? Then there’s the cost of advertising and the time between when they start and the time when they have enough regular clients to have enough income.

          Can’t do it on the unemployment benefit as you’re a) supposed to be looking for a job and b) just don’t have enough income to actually start the business.

        • greywarbler 19.2.1.11

          What a loss to the world if srylands’ parents had been poor and digent. (not indigent). Sigh. If this doesn’t make sense it’s in tune with wrylands epigram.

        • miravox 19.2.1.12

          “Their kids are at school.”

          She works nights…

          But yeah, what’s she doing with her day? House-keeping, maintaining family & social contacts preparing food, household administration etc – and sleep are so over-rated.

          … made the decision not to aspire beyond…

          because there is no context to ‘decision-making’, not at all.

          • McFlock 19.2.1.12.1

            Srylands was talking about his cleaner. Domestic slave, if you will. He seems to be unaware that most businesses schedule cleaning for when it’s most likely that other staff won’t be disturbed – for example, my office gets cleaned anywhere from 8-10pm weeknights. I only know this because I work late, and generally bullshit / gasbag with the cleaner for a bit before I piss off home.

            But even if I only worked daylight hours, I’d have to be a fucking self-absorbed moron to assume that the bin empties itself, the floors mop, vacuum or polish themselves, that bogroll gets changed magically, and so on…

            • QoT 19.2.1.12.1.1

              I’ve worked with a hell of a lot of such fucking self-absorbed morons, McFlock. One workplace, the cleaners explicitly *did not* do dishes. If the two or three people who knew how to load a dishwasher were out for a day? Some people got seriously fucking confused when we ran out of mugs.

              So ignoring the massive amounts of other things that just magically stay clean or stocked … it’s depressing how easy it is.

        • Wayne 19.2.1.13

          Srylands,

          Jeepers, your opinion is pretty extreme, and actually quite offensive.

          It must be obvious to everyone but you, that people have many different, and sometimes difficult financial situations and can raise really good families.

          The whole point of WFF and State Housing is to make sure everyone has the full range of choices in life, even though it might not be so easy for them.

          • Draco T Bastard 19.2.1.13.1

            The whole point of WFF and State Housing is to make sure everyone has the full range of choices in life, even though it might not be so easy for them.

            Except for the fact that they don’t and that their true purpose is as a multi-billion dollar subsidy to business so that they can continue paying substandard wages so as to maintain higher profits for the few.

          • Hayden 19.2.1.13.2

            your opinion is pretty extreme

            Sadly, it’s actually not that unusual, judging by some of the comments on Stuff, NZ Herald, etc.’s stories.

        • Puddleglum 19.2.1.14

          If people have made the decision to not aspire beyond minimum wage jobs …

          Putting aside any other issue with this statement, why do some people ‘decide’ upon one path and others upon another?

          Put another way: Just what is a ‘decision’ and what processes give rise to one?

    • Hayden 19.3

      Yeah, but you live in Australia.

    • miravox 19.4

      ” I pay $70 for 2.5 hours cleaning”

      Is that in Australia or Kapiti?

      Also – Unless you know what that’s worth after expenses it’s pretty irrelevant.

      • Murray Olsen 19.4.1

        I pay $50 for 2 hours cleaning in Brisbane. I can’t imagine an hourly rate that would be high enough to clean up the stinking kupapa mess left by the Right Dishonourable Tau Henare. Is the cleaning union still strong enough to put a work stoppage on his shithouse?

        • miravox 19.4.1.1

          Beyond a living wage, that’s for sure. He might be wanting to be responsible for keeping his personal space extra un-messy right about now.

          I wonder what job he’ll be going to after the next election – may be the cleaners union can gift him the tools of the trade with instructions on how how to maintain dignity in front of arseholes, a skill these women have learned so well.

  20. karol 20

    Clever, Lynn. I’m impressed this pre-programmed time-shifting is possible.

    • Rosie 20.1

      It had me a little baffled lol :-)

    • lprent 20.2

      It wasn’t pre-programmed. The sort order for comments in on UTC date/time. So shifting a comments date shifts it in the order.

      Just edit the top-level comment and change time on the comment and it moves the whole thread to the bottom. Moving a day forward seems like the obvious solution as it puts the comment thread to the end of the posts day in the sun.

      I’m tired of people hanging around to get in a first diversionary comment to try to divert the post to something that the author didn’t intend. I can move the comment to OpenMike. But in a lot of ways this is preferable.

      Leave a note to tell people that is what was done.

      • richard 20.2.1

        Only drawback seems to be that the link to the comment stays at the top of the list of list of ‘latest comments’

        • lprent 20.2.1.1

          Yeah – same in the admins view. That will be easy to fix. Just exclude back to the future comments from that list. I drived from that class last week to to play around with jquery/ajax

  21. Imagine if you decide to better yourself and go to night school, to find a better a job.

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 21.1

      Imagine if that exact same point was covered in the OP. Imagine if you took remedial English comprehension lessons.

      Imagine if we had better wingnuts.

      Brett Dale and Tau Henare: arseholes together in shite.

      • Brett Dale 21.1.1

        Yeah who doesnt want personal responsibility.

        • One Anonymous Knucklehead 21.1.1.1

          Personal responsibility to read the article at the top of the page before making a complete fool of yourself?

          Or the variety of “personal responsibility” that you use to blame victims of circumstance, that makes you look like a piece of trash?

        • Descendant Of Sssmith 21.1.1.2

          Yep we should not have people cleaning the toilets then.

          Once you have finished you’ll put on the gloves, get out the disinfectant, and clean it yourself.

          Do you take personal responsibility for your bowel motions Brett and the hygiene risk they present?

          I get annoyed actually when toilets don’t have a toilet brush besides them.

          I’ve never thought someone else should have to clean crap off the toilet after I’ve been and do it myself if there’s a toilet brush there. Motel rooms, workplaces, sports venues, airports. Don’t expect wife to do it either at home.

          It’s a small way in which I can make the cleaners job less unpleasant.

          • McFlock 21.1.1.2.1

            I reckon there’s a line of courtesy, if you will :)

            Back when I was a cleaner at DEKA (waybackwhen) the bogs weren’t too bad of a job, little skid marks ok. The time I had the “task > (($/hr)*1000)” thought was when someone had obviously been ill and the toilet was a sight to behold. That could have done with a token attempt by the dealer, IMO.

            Well, there was another time when I got to work to find an elderly gentleman had been incontinent in one of the checkout lines. Fair enough, it happens, but they just roped it off for 45 minutes until I got in to work. Right at the goddamn front of the shop, too. All class.

            • Psycho Milt 21.1.1.2.1.1

              …they just roped it off for 45 minutes until I got in to work. Right at the goddamn front of the shop, too. All class.

              Having run a library in a US Army camp in Kuwait, I’m familiar with the not-really-one-if-you-aren’t-a-cunt ‘dilemma’ of whether to put an out-of-order sign on the overflowing toilet and leave it until the long-suffering cleaners turn up, or deal with it yourself.

              There’s something about American toilets (and Americans, and jury-rigged sewerage systems) that leads to a great many blocked/overflowing toilets. I was particularly impressed with the unknown military hero who managed to block our urinal with toilet paper. Soldiers aren’t provided with abundant opportunities to eliminate waste, so none of them let the fact the urinal was blocked prevent them pissing in it, until eventually I got told about it and spent a while getting elbow deep in this effluent soup so I could pull all the toilet paper out of the drain. My staff were horrified, but the bottom line is that the same room features soap and a wash basin, and cleaners don’t enjoy being elbow-deep in piss any more than anyone else does. It would probably do Tau some good to have a go at it himself.

            • Puddleglum 21.1.1.2.1.2

              When I was at Primary School, at the end of every day we had to clean the classroom and put our chairs on the desks, up off the floor.

              I remember one afternoon a child who was a smart-alec in training, asked the teacher ‘Why do we have to clean up for the cleaners?’

              The teacher looked at him in that beautifully characterful way that some old school teachers had, and, after a pause, said words to the effect: ‘Cleaning up your own mess shows respect to the cleaners, who can then do a better job, and teaches you self discipline and to take responsibility for yourself. The world works better that way.’

              It was a great moment – no doubt embellished by memory, but for me it’s a reminder of something that’s been lost. Nowadays I’m stunned at how many people – like Tau Henare in this instance – are just grown up versions of that young smart-alec. They almost seem to think it’s some kind of an expression of a higher morality to show no respect for others and certainly not to ‘yield’ to the weakness of empathy.

        • the pigman 21.1.1.3

          Oh dear. Fallen off your hoverboard again, Brett? That musta been a nasty knock to the head…

    • joe90 21.2

      Imagine if you decide that the 225,000 people engaged in adult education 2009 could be reduced to 35,000 in 2012.

      • Tracey 21.2.1

        Don’t use facts or logic, you are dealing with people who give off the facade of rationality but are, in fact, relying on myth not facts to bolster their world view.

      • QoT 21.2.2

        But at least 50,000 of them were only doing silly skill-less things like Moroccan cooking, Anne Tolley said so!

    • framu 21.3

      Ok brett – i will play nice here.

      How does that fix the actual problem of cleaners earning to little?

      not this particular cleaner – but anyone who ends up doing the job

      • Psycho Milt 21.3.1

        See, once everyone has gained an education sufficient to “better” themselves, the average proletarian will be well capable of designing an automated cleaning system that costs far less than employing cleaners, and will enrich themselves from it, and this will be replicated across all proletarians/work sectors, and society will be totally awesome.

        • Brett Dale 21.3.1.1

          Psycho milt:

          There are plenty of free community colleges, do what I did in the 90′s, didint want to work in fast food all my life, went to a free night course run by the council in office admin, and changed careers.

          • lprent 21.3.1.1.1

            … plenty of free community colleges

            Not any more. Anne Tolley destroyed almost all night courses in 2009/10 by dropping the minimal amounts of funding that they received.

            • Brett Dale 21.3.1.1.1.1

              Iprent:

              There are plenty of courses going around that are still free. Or at elast just a one off
              small fee, and what about winz? they offer courses.

              • Tracey

                “plenty of courses going around that are still free.”

                Could you post the links to ones here that will reuslt in higher than minimum wage when completed?

              • Draco T Bastard

                and what about winz? they offer courses.

                LOL, beginner courses that are far below what’s learned in school. They won’t pay the small amount to even do the 7 days of training to get full MYOB accreditation.

          • Psycho Milt 21.3.1.1.2

            There are plenty of free community colleges, do what I did in the 90′s, didint want to work in fast food all my life, went to a free night course run by the council in office admin, and changed careers.

            The question I was replying to was “How does that fix the actual problem of cleaners earning to little?”

            Your reply to it suggests that you’re happy for cleaners to have inflicted on them whatever low level of pay and conditions employers want to foist on them, because if they didn’t enjoy that they wouldn’t be cleaners. It’s essentially the same view as Tau Henare’s, ie a singularly unpleasant one.

          • miravox 21.3.1.1.3

            Even if, as a cleaner, she wasn’t working nights,
            even if she had child care arrangements that allowed her to take night courses,
            even if she could afford the cost of a trip to college,
            even if she had the right skills to take the courses,
            even if she knew there were ‘better’ jobs available in the hours she could work and
            even if she felt secure enough that someone would hire her with English as a second language (because we’re not racist, or judgemental… oh nos),

            then someone else would have to clean the toilets and that someone would not be paid enough to live on and having their job made more precarious by this unfair, wage-reducing, legislation.

          • Draco T Bastard 21.3.1.2.1

            Actually, it is but we need to get rid of capitalism so that the freeing up of peoples time can result in a better society rather than the increased poverty for the many and increased wealth for the few that we see now.

    • Tracey 21.4

      you mean the nightclasses that National canned or something else? If you mean papers at a Uni outside working hours, then you also need to explain how a person on 13.50 an hour will be able to pay the course fees, their rent, their food, their electricity?

      How arrogantly middle class of you to imagine the world is for everyone as it is for you.

      • Brett Dale 21.4.1

        Tracey:

        There are a ton of free courses, some run by winz, some run by schools, and even the ones that arent free, its just a small one off fee around $30.

        So lets say you did a basic free night course in computing, if you type on a computer at a particular speed, you will find yourself data entry work.

        That pays slightly higher than cleaning, around $15-17 if you go with temping agencies, and its slightly more pleasant than cleaning.

        • Tracey 21.4.1.1

          Can you post your sources for the free or cheap courses and to the entry level jobs currently being advertised that she could step into.

          Who will clean the toilets when the cleaners are all data entry personnel? Students?

          Thanks

    • Sable 21.5

      Imagine simply treating people with respect and paying them for their hard work irrespective of who they are Ches-dale toenail cheese…

      • Brett Dale 21.5.1

        Sable:

        People do treat people with respect, and I have worked data entry assignments, where the cleaners actually get paid more and deservedly so.

  22. blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 22

    Newsflash!

    Tau Henare has introduced National’s new election campaign slogan which is believed to have been inspired by the fabulous meeting Key has just had with his powerful conservative mates in Britain

    After spending large amounts of NZ tax payer dollars to get to Britain for an urgent strategy meeting with the most powerful right-wing minds in the world and staying in the finest hotels, the PM, looking somewhat sheepish responding to the question “Was that a good use of NZ taxpayers’ dollars?” stated on TV1 News: “Yes it was a very productive meeting. I was amongst the brightest and some of the wealthiest, I mean, most powerful of the western world and I made a lot of ‘useful’ connections”.

    It is understood that having spent much time over tea and canapés deliberating over the issues of concern, namely, how the conservatives and the interests of those that fund them could hold onto their fraudulently gained money whilst still appearing generous and democratic the resolution of the meeting was to approach their respective disgruntled members of the public with a clear and simple message that all could understand:

    “Let them eat cake”

    It is believed Mr Key spent much time at the meeting handing out his C.V.

    • Sable 23.1

      Good job…..

    • Te Reo Putake 23.2

      Interesting that Tau apparently doesnt agree with the righty scum commenting on this thread:

      “Mr Henare said on Twitter last night that he had previously cleaned toilets himself.

      He added: “I apologise to the lady and to all those that haven’t really got a choice in jobs. Aroha mai. My bad.” ”

      Haven’t really got a choice. Exactly right.

    • Steve 23.3

      Apologised yes, but we now know what he really thinks.

      I suspect the slimeball was jumped on from a great height by his paymasters. After all, can’t have the great unwashed knowing what the National party really thinks of them.

      Pathetic, grovelling toady.

  23. Sable 24

    I always personally found Henare pretty odious. I’m not surprised at all by his behaviour. NZ is increasingly a country of the “haves” and “have nots”, inequality fostered by the elitist National government.

  24. Curtis 25

    Tau just wrote this on facebook
    Tau Henare
    41 minutes ago via Mobile
    Yesterday, I was asked point blank what I felt about the lady who has to clean our toilets at Parly, nothing more and nothing less I said well if she doesn’t like doing her mahi than she could leave. I didn’t even know she’d had been at the select committee. I see they put the 2 together and made a story. Context is everything. Maybe I should have said all cleaners need a pay rise. I realise explaining is losing and take your criticisms on board. Kia ora. The good thing is that I have access to all those people who think what I said when they saw the 2 put together is i can have my say without having to answer questions from the old media. To Dr Brian Edwards, you of all people should know better, like I said, I was asked point lank, no background, no anything, what I thought about the person who cleans our toilets in Bowen house, I responded by saying well If she didn’t like her job she could give it to someone else, this was in response to that question. I haven’t seen the story that ran on TV3 but I can guess they ran 2 story’s together and had my comment as a comment on the lady’s appearance before the select committee. To those that want to listen, those are the facts, to those who don’t, they are still the facts. You all can and have made your opinions clear. I’m not blaming 3 news, I stand by my comments, and I accept that I have pissed off a few people. nga Mihi nui ki a koutou katoa mai I te ringa Matau ki te ringa Maui ki te waenganui hoki.

    • Tracey 25.1

      If he didnt know which cleaner was being referred to (the one before the select committee) how did he know she didnt like her job?

      • QoT 25.1.1

        It’s kind of revealing, isn’t it? Like, when he *knows* her situation he’s all understanding.

        If he doesn’t know the situation, his default assumption is that she’s a whinger who needs to be talked down to.

    • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 25.2

      Thanks for the information, Curtis.

      Tau Henare’s comment and ensuing explanation show an extraordinary lack of awareness of the conditions involved when there is an high unemployment rate.

      One cannot just leave one’s place of work.
      This is just not an option when there is a lack of jobs.

      It is yet another of many “Let them eat cake” moment.

    • bad12 25.3

      Raymond having to dig deep for excuses can in no way excuse the comments made, i suggest that Raymond go and have a look at the news item,

      The overcoat changing Henare is far past His use by date and should end up at the bottom of Nationals party list for election 2014 so as to become fully aware what we think of Him and His views on those who toil daily for little reward in our economy…

      • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 25.3.1

        I thought Mr Henare was expressing National’s political approach very lucidly, Bad12. Why would they demote him for that?

      • Murray Olsen 25.3.2

        I think they should make him leader of the NAct party. Then everyone will become aware of the real party policy on employment and its attitude to manual workers.

    • Sable 25.4

      Ugh, what a glib little twit. Throwing a few Maori words to make it look like he’s one of the locals when in fact it appears he thinks he’s better than ordinary hardworking people. Maybe he should just shut his arrogant mouth and take it on the chin.

      • Not Another Sheep 25.4.1

        Ākuanei koe i a au,Sable ! Tapahia tōu arero; ko te āhua nei e tūtara ana o etahi whakahē i te mahi a te rōpū nei; ā, te kaupapa o te Rōpū Reipa, anō.

        Heoi anō, ko māua māua, ko ō whakaaro e āhukahuka ana ki nōku – “…it appears he thinks he’s better than ordinary hardworking people.” Anō ! Rite tonu te haunga o te tiko o Tau Henare ki ngā rōpā.

        Auē Tau !!! Kaua e wareware koe ‘He rei ngā niho, he parāoa ngā kauae’ ? Koia kei a koe…..
        Kaore a koe, Tau, e mōhio ki te rerekētanga o te pono me te tipatipa; ākene pea ??? Ākene pea he arero rua?
        Pōkokohua mā, NATIONAL; me mutu ēnā mahi haitutu – ēnei ture whakarihariha.
        Kaua tētahi tangata i puritia i roto i te tikanga whakapononga. Kua noho ko te ngaringariā ki runga koutou katoa, Nāhinara !

  25. Iprent

    The delorean solution?

    Awesome that you reference back to the future, apart from that tightyrighty made a good point.

    • lprent 26.1

      But the post was on the parliamentarians making decisions for their cleaners. Party headquarters staff are not parliamentarians, not in parliament, and are not paid for by parliamentary services.

      In other words TR was quite clearly doing a diversion from the post. If he wanted to make that “good point” then he should have done it outside of Zet’s post. He can either do it on his own blog or he can start a thread in OpenMike. Of course I could have just given him a 6 month ban – which was my first instinct (I really am irritated by people doing that). If I see him doing it again, then that is exactly what he will get.

      Posts are written on a topic by someone taking the effort and giving up the time to write them. Have some arsehole trying to divert the commentary by doing an off-topic first few comments just pisses me off. Anyone who does it and who doesn’t take the effort to at least try to relate it to the actual content of the post from now on will be taking a big risk with their comment writing privileges.

      • Brett Dale 26.1.1

        Iprent:

        Isnt that was these message boards are about though?

        An OP may write something, but people may take something else from it, thus the different comments.

        • lprent 26.1.1.1

          On this site they should at least relate to the context of the post or parent comments. Just dropping something completely random and out of context into a discussion and causing the author to look at their post and ask “why in the hell did I bother to write this?” isn’t helpful. I need authors way way more than I need arrogant shithead commenters who upset them.

          For something that is completely out of context like TR’s comment, there is the daily OpenMike and other more general purpose comment posts – which we don’t moderate for diversion and context.

          TR or anyone else who wants to drop out of context comments into other posts apart from OpenMike or open posts should now consider carefully if they want to leave comments here anytime in the foreseeable future. I like people to be able to assess risks…

          That was what got Jenny a 6 week ban and several others banned recently. But looking at TR, it is apparent that I haven’t made the consequences plain enough.

    • miravox 26.2

      “apart from that tightyrighty made a good point.”

      S/he did? Can’t see it myself.

  26. bad12 27

    According to the Herald online MP Raymond Henare has now apologized for what He said about one of Parliaments cleaners Mareta Sinoti,

    Mrs Sinoti may wish to forgive Henare his intemperate comment but i for one find that this particular scab festering on the body politic of New Zealand should be lanced as soon as possible, hopefully by National realizing the damage His comments have done and they consigning Him to the lowest ranking on their Party List,

    Having changed His political over-coat on various occasions during His life Henare appears to have no beliefs other than those which keep his snout in the trough of the public purse,

    His claim that He has ‘cleaned toilets befor’ is spurious considering the years He has spent partying and party hopping at the expense of those who daily toil to clean His mess,

    This scab denigrating the efforts of hard working Kiwis who toil daily for little reward should be surgically removed and the sooner the better…

  27. Ennui 28

    Lets answer some of the idiots like Tighty and Brett…the women doing the toilet cleaning would I suspect prefer not to. I am not too proud to admit I have cleaned toilets for dollars whilst a student and it was not pleasant or desirable BUT it was entirely necessary. Somebody has to do this or we end up with highly paid medical specialists treating parliamentarians….

    My viewpoint is that the job is worth far more than we pay for it to be done: the women do not have the luxury of an employment market with viable alternatives. These woman need the money, and all honour to them for putting the needs of their families first in earning an income. Consequently the stock in trade Right wing nonsense spouted by Tau has no validity.

    On another note to all commentators here, why oh why do we describe toilet cleaning as a lowly job? Have we no respect for those who do the things we need done most? These people fill a societal role that is far more valuable and honorable than those professions that seek to restrict entry and charge us for their privileged status…forex floor traders and merchant bankers come to mind.

    • mac1 28.1

      Ennui, you are right on the money.

      Toilet cleaning is not a lowly job.

      I cleaned toilets all this week as a cleaner.

      I once went on a summer camp where the camper participants shared the cleaning/cooking/ type jobs.
      A medical doctor chose the toilets job, which he did thoroughly. I asked him why he chose them as his contribution. His reply was “Less work for me as a doctor.”

      Toilet cleaning is an essential job.

  28. Brian 29

    Thanks Tau!! – you have helped show the nation the true side of the National party.

    What a star!

  29. Draco T Bastard 30

    The low pay that cleaners and other low paid but critical jobs get is what I’m referring to when I say that a Universal Income will increase wages. Given that a UI of a reasonable amount* will give these people a choice as to doing the low paid job or getting a better education and thus a better income means that to get people to do these jobs will mean that they will need to be paid more.

    * Well above present UB rates.

  30. Bill 31

    Cleaning up other peoples’ shit or whatever may not be exactly pleasant. But there is, perhaps, a deeper issue being missed (I haven’t read all the comments, so don’t know if it’s been picked up on).

    The fact that cleaners probably work to a very tight timetable and have about zero say over their work environment is, to me, a bigger issue than what it is they clean.

    Think about it. Day in and day out performing rote tasks and having no more input than an automaton. It’s that that’s soul destroying and far more deserving of compensation than some managerial type who has the luxury of managing their time and tasks to some degree as well as, possibly, input to their work environment in general.

    • karol 31.1

      Yep. I see that with the weekend cleaners where I work. Hard regime. But they have been saving for many years, and can afford a little bit of an improvement to the families lives.

      All would be disappointment if they got their pay or jobs cut.

    • The fact that cleaners probably work to a very tight timetable and have about zero say over their work environment is, to me, a bigger issue than what it is they clean.

      I see that at my work. Every time the contract is renewed, it goes to a different company, because that company has tendered a lower price, which is predicated on giving fewer cleaners less time to clean the damn building. The staff working in the building (and this infuriates me just about the most) then proceed to complain about the poor sods who have to empty their rubbish bins and clean their fucking toilets not doing a good enough job! Bottom line: Bridges, Henare, everyone else in the government currently involved in fucking cleaners up the arse, and their fellow travellers DPF et al, are fuckwits who deserve a good beating.

  31. Darien Fenton 32

    Tau apologised. So now its Simon Bridge’s turn. And at the same time withdraw his employment law changes to show he means it.

    • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 32.1

      Hi Darien,

      Thanks for coming along to the Standard,
      Labour is looking very good these days, please keep up the team spirit.

      Tau Henare can apologize for the deep-seated beliefs he holds all he likes, however we know that he still believes these things because he continues to belong to a political party that follows through with the type of uninsightful, uncompassionate, and shortsighted views that his comment displayed; so. really, it is clear that the apology will only ever be an insincere one.

  32. BrucetheMoose 33

    Stuff me. a bit rich coming from this professional bludger. What the hell does this spud contribute to the daily running of the country anyway. Perhaps Tau Bro should try doing this lady’s job for a week before making such criticisms. He would probably melt into the bowl from doing a honest hard days work.

  33. AsleepWhileWalking 34

    What a prick. And his apology does nothing to erase his sneering image from my mind.

    Incidentally these women don’t look young enough to necessarily obtain a student loan – the government has moved to age limit loans. For example if you are in your fifties you can’t necessarily train as a nurse unless you can fund it yourself through some other means. Do people realise what this is doing to older folk?

  34. xtasy 35

    Hah, actually I have been a cleaner once or twice in my “career” in NZ, and I tell you, it was a SHIT job, and I got few thanks for it, no matter how hard I worked. I tell you, I have done almost any job there is in this country, so I am an “all round experienced person”, I suppose.

    But as for cleaners, the deserve the minimum wage of $ 15 at least, which I expect a Labour led government to bring in anyway!

    As for the “qualifications” of cleaners, I admit, in many cases it will leave a fair bit to be desired, but that is not just for cleaners to take note of, New Zealanders as a whole, need to put more effort and emphasis into/on training, qualifications and whatever. Yes, even cleaning is in some ways and “expert” job, as there are many different places to clean, industrial, office, public spaces, whatever, and there are many cleaning agents, chemicals and machinery in use, that need to be learned about.

    The same applies to many other jobs. The “good old days” of just getting a broom or mop to sweep to “clean” a place, to “jump into a truck and drive it”, to “start a fork-hoist and lift a pallet”, to do this or the other, those days are gone. We live in a very different world now, with much specialisation and expectations. I look forward that all this gets rewarded by fair pay, no matter what job is done!

  35. xtasy 36

    Wikipedia on Tau Henare, by the way:

    “As a young boy growing up in Otara, Henare had a contrasting childhood. On one hand, he was told almost before he could walk that his future would be politics,[2] which at times requires statesman-like skills to deal with others. On the other, Otara was “a place where you learn how to survive,” and it required Henare to learn “to be strong, stand up and not take a backward step.”[2] Looking back on his 1960s childhood in 1996, Henare summed it up as one that “taught me to be proud of who I am.”[2] It also later contributed to what he describes as “youthful exuberance” that lead to a 1980s reputation for being a stirrer and a radical.[2]

    In Otara, Henare attended Sir Edmund Hillary Collegiate. During Year 11 (Form 5) when he was 16, Henare passed School Certificate, a former New Zealand secondary school qualification for high school students to progress to Year 12.[2] However, Henare was unsuccessful on his New Zealand University Entrance.[5]

    After his schooling ended in 1978, Henare worked at a variety of positions, including wool cleaner and wool classer, where he was responsible for separating sheep’s wool, organiser for the Northern Clerical Workers’ Union under activist and trade unionist Syd Jackson,[6][7] community worker, advise to the Waitakere City Council, and Department of Internal Affairs adviser.[2] During this period, Henare was unemployed for two years.[2] Also, at the age of 25, Henare was arrested for breaking through a police line and laying a wreath for the Maori Battalion during a royal visit on Anzac Day in 1985.[2]”

    He was a “cleaner” too, a wool classer (secure job, as I learned those days), and actually a “bloody UNIONIST”!!!

    He went into some “community work”, and finally ended up in a public service role, that led to what else?: MP for the Nat(z)ional Party!?

    What a “qualified” career that is for a pompous, arrogant, and up his backside cleaner ridiculer? Does the man have any decency, or even humility?

    Tau Henare is one of the most OVERRATED pollies there are in New Zealand, that is MY view, and I am sure, I am NOT alone!

    Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tau_Henare

    • Not Another Sheep 36.1

      “,[2] which at times requires statesman-like skills to deal with others”

      Henare writes (via Curtis post)
      “like I said, I was asked point blank, no background, no anything, what I thought about the person who cleans our toilets in Bowen house”.. [ Here at this point he could have said 'She is a lovely lady'. Yet, he does connect the dots (that he denies) between the cited two events by following with]… “ I responded by saying well If she didn’t like her job she could give it to someone else.”

      Āhahā Henare…. No flies on him.

  36. Bruce 37

    How low can we go with this anti-worker government. They have got away with way too much.

  37. CeeH 38

    Give Tau a toothbrush to clean his own excrement – I say. Now that would make for a good cartoon.

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    Seldom has New Zealand seen such super-harmonies in the traditionally separate spheres of music  and investigative journalism. The release of New Zealand prog-rocker Nicky Hager’s latest album Dirty Politics coincided with the well known citizen journalist group Shihad’s book FVEY,...
    Public Address | 29-08
  • The cost of irrigation
    At the moment, the government is pushing irrigation and water storage as a way of increasing milk production and boosting the economy. Critics have argued that the result will be dirty, polluted rivers unfit for recreational use. And we've just...
    No Right Turn | 29-08
  • An empty void at the heart of the election
    Its election time. The blog should be humming. Its not. Why? Because there's not enough policy to comment on. Note that this is not a complaint about Dirty Politics. How power is exercised and the ethics displayed in doing so...
    No Right Turn | 29-08
  • Making money out of fanatics
    Click on image to enlarge This looks like a Xcd cartoon. I picked it up from a new Facebook page The Girl Against Fluoride Lies. Good to see more and more Facebook pages like this. Speaking of fluoride – the cartoon sort...
    Open Parachute | 29-08
  • Debate 1
    As you know, there was a debate last night, and the consensus appears to be that David Cunliffe won. (The strongest clue that National also thinks Cunliffe won is that Kiwiblog has seven posts up this morning to change the...
    Polity | 29-08
  • Britomart precinct quick wins
    It has now been three months since Janette Sadik-Khan visited Auckland and showed us how easy it was to create a more liveable city by making things better for people to walk and cycle around, and best of all we...
    Transport Blog | 29-08
  • Poll of Polls update – 29 August 2014
    The polls are coming thick and fast. There must be an election on… Yesterday, we had the release of the latest Herald Digipoll, while this morning it’s the Fairfax Ipsos poll. In the Digipoll, National are up 0.7% to 50.7%,...
    Occasionally erudite | 28-08
  • World News Brief, Friday August 29
    Top of the AgendaUkraine Accuses Russia of Invasion...
    Pundit | 28-08
  • Hard News: Friday Music: Tramadol Rock
    I saw Samuel Flynn Scott a couple of times last year at the time he was suffering through a back injury in a haze of painkillers. It made for a fairly spaced out Phoenix Foundation show at the Powerstation --...
    Public Address | 28-08
  • Vale Brad Fletcher, MUNZ Lyttelton Branch President
    The Maritime Union is greatly saddened by the death of Maritime Union Lyttelton Branch President Brad Fletcher in a workplace accident on Thursday 28 August 2014. Maritime Union National Secretary Joe Fleetwood says the death of Brad Fletcher, a full-time...
    MUNZ | 28-08
  • Matthew Hooton (Fanatical National Supporter) Says Key is “Dishonest”
    This morning on Radio Live, Matthew Hooton has said what John Key is saying about about not being told of the SIS Official Information Request release to Scumbag Adulterous Blogger Cameron Slater, is “unbelievable”....
    An average kiwi | 28-08
  • How most people get hacked
    Chris Trotter writes about hackers:  LISBETH SALANDER is the archetypal hacker: a damaged outsider; phenomenally clever; contemptuous of society’s rules; but possessed of an unflinching, if somewhat quirky, sense of right and wrong. Without Lisbeth, the journalist hero of Stieg Larsen’sThe...
    DimPost | 28-08
  • Rift in National Party – MPs Want Key Gone
    Rumours are rife that some National MPS are planning to oust John Key as leader after the election, while others say Key almost without a doubt will be resigning not long after the election. Key is apparently ‘fed up’ with...
    An average kiwi | 28-08
  • Quick post debate comment
    The general consensus seems to be that Cunliffe ‘won’ the debate although not overwhelmingly. Various pundits have wondered what happened to Key. Why wasn’t he funnier? Didn’t he prepare enough?  I think Key’s problem last night went a bit deeper...
    DimPost | 28-08
  • National Housing propaganda – McGehan Close Revisited
    .   . Housing has become a major, defining issue in New Zealand. We have critical shortages and escalating prices in  in the main centres and falling house values in the regions. The National government has addressed the supply &...
    Frankly Speaking | 28-08
  • National Housing propaganda – McGehan Close Revisited
    .   . Housing has become a major, defining issue in New Zealand. We have critical shortages and escalating prices in  in the main centres and falling house values in the regions. The National government has addressed the supply &...
    Frankly Speaking | 28-08
  • New Zealand can’t put the urban genie back in its bottle
    Although the majority of New Zealanders have lived in towns and cities for almost a century, it sometimes seems like we’re in denial that we live in an urban nation. This unease came to the fore during the debate over...
    Transport Blog | 28-08
  • Entering The Labyrinth
    The New Theseus: In a world of mendacious politicians, giant corporations and impenetrable public bureaucracies, the hacker offers the only credible hope of entering the modern labyrinth. Stieg Larsen's character, Lisbeth Salander, is the archetypal fictional representation of the "White...
    Bowalley Road | 28-08
  • Wellington National Is Not Our Future Rally 30/8/14
    Press Release – TPPA Action – Wellington Thousands of people will march and rally at National is not our Future events on Saturday. Auckland is the main rally centre with supportive actions in Wellington, Dunedin, Christchurch and Hamilton. In Wellington,...
    Its our future | 28-08
  • Gordon Campbell on last night’s debate, and the Collins accusation
    Debating is a peculiar discipline in that what you say is less important than how you’re saying it. Looking poised, being articulate and staying on topic generally wins the day – and on that score, Labour leader David Cunliffe won...
    Gordon Campbell | 28-08
  • Sean Plunket comes around on the Watergate comparison (‘Dirty Politics’...
    Here’s RadioLIVE talkback host Sean Plunket from this morning — thinking his way through the prickly situation revealed in Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics … and finding the comparison to Watergate and dirty tricks orchestrated from Richard Nixon’s office is...
    The Paepae | 28-08
  • Time to change: Another Fatality at Lyttelton, Port of Christchurch
    On January 6th 2014 I asked When will the next fatality happen at Lyttelton, Port of Christchurch?, after a near miss gave clear evidence that the Port’s safety systems were not in control. It was a prediction that was almost...
    Lance Wiggs | 28-08
  • The First Leaders’ Debate: Cunliffe Shows His Quality.
    Epic Struggle: Tonight New Zealanders were privileged to witness a truly outstanding encounter between two highly effective politicians. Leaving aside its ridiculous "poll", TVNZ has just screened one of the best leaders' debates in decades.WHAT A BLOODY SHAME. For 59 minutes TVNZ...
    Bowalley Road | 28-08
  • US State Department underestimates carbon pollution from Keystone XL
    This is like the movie Groundhog Day. I seem forever forced to correct the State Department’s errant analysis of Alberta tar sands emissions. Now, however, other people are agreeing with me. A recent paper published in Nature Climate Change reviewed...
    Skeptical Science | 28-08
  • Stuart’s 100 #16 A Retail Renaissance?
    16: A Retail Renaissance? What if Topshop Topman was just the beginning? Over the past year or so there has started to be some recognition in the media that change is afoot in the central city retail scene (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11269705, http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11262222 ) ....
    Transport Blog | 28-08
  • Labour on the environment
    Labour released its environment policy today. While supposedly predicated on the idea of "no healthy economy without a healthy environment", its... weak. On the core issue of the RMA, they reject National's latest round of gutting, but basically accept all...
    No Right Turn | 28-08
  • World News Brief, Thursday August 28
    Top of the AgendaNATO Plans New Bases as Poroshenko Meets Putin...
    Pundit | 28-08
  • Britain’s toxic elite
    In something that should be news to no-one, a report has found that Britain is in the thrall of an unrepresentative elite:Britain is "deeply elitist" because people educated at public school and Oxbridge have in effect created a "closed shop...
    No Right Turn | 28-08
  • Labour: A smarter approach to justice
    A Labour Government will improve the justice system to ensure it achieves real public safety, provides equal access to justice and protects human rights, Labour’s Justice spokesperson Andrew Little says. “Our approach is about tackling the root causes of crime, recognising...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Labour to foster Kiwi love of sport and the great outdoors
    A Labour Government will promote physical activity, back our top athletes and help foster Kiwis’ love of the great outdoors by upgrading tramping and camping facilities. Trevor Mallard today released Labour’s sports and recreation policy which will bring back a...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Pacific languages recognised under Labour
    Labour will act to recognise the five main Pacific languages in New Zealand including through the education system, said Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. Announcing Labour’s Pacific Island policy he said that there must be a strong commitment to...
    Labour | 29-08
  • No healthy economy without a healthy environment
    Labour recognises that we cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment, says Environment spokesperson Moana Mackey announcing Labour’s environment policy. “New Zealand’s economy has been built on the back of the enormous environmental wealth we collectively enjoy as...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Better protection, fairer deal for Kiwi consumers
    Tackling excessive prices, ensuring consumers have enough information to make ethical choices and giving the Commerce Commission more teeth are highlights of Labour’s Consumer Rights policy. “The rising cost of living is a concern for thousands of Kiwi families. A...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Media Advisory – MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki Annette Sykes, Waia...
    Media are advised that this coming weekend, the MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki, Annette Sykes, will be on the Internet MANA Road Trip within the electorate of Waiariki. Speakers confirmed are Annette Sykes, Hone Harawira, John Minto, Laila Harre and Kim...
    Mana | 27-08
  • Internet MANA – Waiariki Road Trip: 29, 30, 31 Aug 2014
    The Internet MANA Road Trip hits Waiariki this weekend. It would be great if all MANA members in Waiariki could especially attend the public meetings and show their support for our Waiariki candidate Annette Sykes. Confirmed speakers Hone Harawira (except Taupo), Annette...
    Mana | 27-08
  • First home buyers $200 a week better off with Labour
    A couple earning around $75,000 a year would be $200 a week better off buying a two bedroom terraced Labour KiwiBuild home instead of an equivalent new build under National’s housing policy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe.  “National’s policy to...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Another Day – Another big power profit
    The latest profit announcement from Genesis Energy shows that the power company was sold for a song to the detriment of the country’s power consumers, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “A net profit of $ 49.2 million follows hard...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour embraces the rainbow
    Labour will work hard to ensure all New Zealanders enjoy the freedom to grow up and live their lives in dignity and security. Labour’s Rainbow policy, released tonight in Wellington, focuses on International Relations, Human Rights and Education....
    Labour | 26-08
  • National gets fast and loose with the facts
    In their desperation to make it look as though they are doing something about the housing crisis, National is playing fast and loose with the facts, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour will drop power prices for Kiwi families
    New Zealanders will get cheaper power prices under NZ Power, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The electricity market is clearly broken. With falling demand for electricity, prices should be going down. Instead prices are going up and companies are extracting...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour: Promoting sustainable tourism
    Ensuring New Zealand’s clean, green status continues to be an international tourism benchmark and reviewing MBIE’s oversight of the tourism sector will be on the radar under a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Tourism policy today, spokesperson Darien Fenton said tourism...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Skills shortage a result of National’s complacency
    The fact that there is still a severe shortage of skilled tradespeople, despite a growth in the number of apprentices, is a result of National’s failure to plan and develop the workforce, Grant Robertson, Labour Employment, Skills and TrainingSpokesperson says."The...
    Labour | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker?? – Mint...
    MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is calling for a radical overhaul of New Zealand’s taxation system with calculations showing that a minimum wage worker pays a ten times higher tax rate than the Prime Minister. o Minimum wage...
    Mana | 25-08
  • Labour’s culture of science and innovation
    Labour will create a culture of science and innovation in New Zealand that will be the envy of the world, says Labour’s Innovation, Research and Development spokesperson Megan Woods. “Labour believes that good science lies at the heart of a...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Improving life for our new New Zealanders
    New Zealand’s international standing as a community that encourages and fosters all cultures will be bolstered under a Labour Government with an upgrade of the present Office of Ethnic Affairs to a Ministry. Releasing Labour’s Ethnic Affairs policy, spokesperson Phil...
    Labour | 25-08
  • South Auckland housing crisis
    National’s HomeStart package is nothing more than a political stunt designed to beguile South Auckland voters, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. “Few working Pasifika and Maori workers in South Auckland will be able to buy their own...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Home buyer subsidy discredited in Oz
    Treasury advised against National’s policy of ramping up home buyer subsidies after it was discredited in Australia because it pushed house prices even higher, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Documents released under the OIA (attached) show Treasury advised the...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Nursing hours explain turnover and high-stress culture
    A staff survey supports concerns nursing staff at Dunedin Hospital are under increasing pressure and that the emergency department is in a critical state, says Labour’s Associate Health Spokesperson David Clark.  “An ED nursing survey at Dunedin found that 80...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Underhand tactics prove case for axing donations
    Revelations that schools are using underhand tactics to coerce donations from cash-strapped parents further highlights the need for Labour's plan to increase funding so they aren't dependent on contributions from parents, Labour's Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “By law New...
    Labour | 24-08
  • National applies band-aid to housing crisis
    The Government’s flagship housing announcement is a band-aid approach that will push up prices rather than solve the housing crisis, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “House sales to first home buyers have collapsed as a direct result of the Government’s...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Climate change focus on the now for the future
    A Labour Governmentwill put in place a comprehensive climate change strategy focusing on bothmitigation and adaptation, establish an independent Climate Commission andimplement carbon budgeting, says Labour Climate Change spokesperson MoanaMackey."This is about future-proofing our economy. Making the transition to alow-carbon...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Labour’s 21st century transport pledge
    The next Labour-led Government will create a 21st century transport system for New Zealand that promotes the most efficient and sustainable combination of transport options, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour will rebalance the Government's transport spending away from...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Housing under National: the facts
    1.       House prices in Auckland Council valuations indicate Auckland house prices have gone up by one-third over the last three years. (Auckland Council) The average Auckland house price has gone up by nearly $225,000 since 2008, up over $75,000 in...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Labour irons out low income tax issue
    The increasing casualisation of work has led to many New Zealand families being disadvantaged through the tax they pay, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. "Many low paid workers are having to work two or three jobs to make ends meet...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Cornered Government comes out swinging
    The National Government is so desperate to keep its dead-in-the-water expert teachers policy alive, it has refused to rule out forcing schools to participate through legislation, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “John Key today attacked the Educational Institute for...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Pacific people continue to go backwards under National
    A report from Victoria University highlights the fact that Pacific people are continuing to go backwards under a National Government, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “The report shows the largest inequality increases were in smoking, obesity, tertiary...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Wellington transport plan needs to keep moving
    The failure of the Transport Agency to properly look at alternatives to the Basin Reserve flyover is not a good reason for further delays to improving transport in Wellington, Labour MPs Grant Robertson and Annette King say. “The Board of...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Labour’s focus on inequality, kids and better job prospects
    Tackling child poverty and removing barriers to people working part time to enhance their prospects of moving into a fulltime job are highlights of Labour’s Social Development policy. Releasing the policy today, spokesperson Sue Moroney said while part-time work was...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Political staff should give answers under oath
    The Inspector General of Security and Intelligence should use her full statutory powers to question witnesses under oath about the leak of SIS information, says Labour MP Phil Goff. “Leakage of confidential information from the SIS for political purposes is...
    Labour | 21-08
  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Public servants behaving with more integrity than their masters
    The State Services Commission's new report on the integrity of our state services reflects the yawning gap between the behaviour of public servants and that of their political masters, Labour's State Services spokesperson Maryan Street says. “This report, which surveyed...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Phil Twyford Speech to NZCID
    "Labour's plan to build more and build better: how new approaches to housing, transport and urban development will deliver cities that work" Phil Twyford, Labour Party spokesperson on housing, transport, Auckland issues, and cities.  ...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Labour commits to independent Foreign Affairs and Trade
    “Labour is committed to New Zealand’s Foreign Affairs and Trade policy being independent and proactive, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer says. “We are a small but respected country. Our voice and actions count in international affairs. Labour will take a...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Key must sack Collins over abhorrent actions
    The latest revelations that Judith Collins sent the contact details of a public servant to WhaleOil in a desperate attempt to divert media attention from a bad story is abhorrent, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key and Judith Collins...
    Labour | 19-08
  • It’s downhill from here under National
    The forecast drop in exports and predicted halving of growth shows that it’s downhill from here with National, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Growth under this Government peaked in June and halves to two per cent in coming years....
    Labour | 19-08
  • John Key loses moral compass over Collins
    John Key has lost his moral compass over Judith Collins’ involvement with Cameron Slater and lost touch with New Zealanders’ sense of right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Whoever is Prime Minister there are expectations they will not...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Mana Movement General Election 2014 List confirmed
    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time for John Key to answer yes or no questions
    John Key’s train-wreck interview on Morning Report shows he is no longer capable of a simple yes or no answer and has lost touch with what’s right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key has become so media...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Key must clarify who signed out SIS OIA
    Yet again John Key is proving incapable of answering a simple question on an extremely important issue – this time who signed off Cameron Slater’s fast-tracked SIS OIA request on Phil Goff, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “John Key’s claim...
    Labour | 18-08
  • BREAKING: Rumours Judith Collins gone at lunchtime
    Brook Sabin first of the mark with rumours Judith Collins is about to resign – PM announcing a statement at 12.30pm… …Paddy follows… …Vance confirms..   …if Collins is gone by lunchtime, it will be because the PM understands the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • BREAKING: UPDATE on DIRT ALERT!
    Thanks to the information passed to Chris Trotter by “Idiot/Savant” from No Right Turn it is now possible to identify at least some of the persons involved in this latest example of attack politics. What follows is Chris’s response to Idiot/Savant’s timely assistance: Well done...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Comparing burning puppets, hip hop lyrics and drunk student chants to black...
    Watching the mainstream media try and obscure Cunliffe’s surprise win in the leaders debate  is a reminder the Press Gallery is in depressed shock. The current spin line from the Wellington bubble media in the wake of Dirty Politics is that...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Why has it all gone quiet on Charter Schools?
    They’re one of ACT’s flagship policies and the National Party have been gung ho in supporting them. So how come we’re not hearing Hekia Parata, Jamie Whyte, Catherine Isaac, et al singing from the rafters about what a resounding success charter...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall
    Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Dirt Alert! Are the Greens and Labour about to become the target...
    WE’VE SEEN IT ALL BEFORE. In 2005 pamphlets began appearing all over New Zealand attacking Labour and the Greens. For a couple of days both the parties targeted and the news media were flummoxed. Who was behind such an obviously...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: the Press Council’s decision
    . . 1. Prologue . The Donghua Liu Affair hit  the headlines on 18 June, with allegations that David Cunliffe wrote a letter in 2003,  on  behalf of  business migrant, Donghua Liu. Four days later, on Sunday 22 June, the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The difference between Cunliffe & Key in the debate
    It was with much interest that I watched the leaders debate on Thursday night.  I watched with an open mind, always happy to have my opinion changed.  Maybe John Key is all the wonderful things that many say about him,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – When Did We Agree To Our Data Being Shared with ...
    New shocking evidence has emerged from Edward Snowden’s trove of documents about a program called ICREACH under which data collected by the GCSB is shared with 23 US spy agencies. Under new sharing agreements which appear to have commenced immediately after...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Why Internet MANA are the best political friends the Greens could ever get
    Metiria at last nights #GreenRoomNZ: standing on the shoulders and camera cases of giants  NZers, regardless of political spectrum or apathy level, have a wonderful beach cricket egalitarianism about us. If we can objectively conclude a winner, then that person...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Sick of the Sleaze? Protest against National’s dirty politics THIS SATURD...
    Sick of the Sleaze? Protest now dammit! Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government’s track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Sir Edmund Thomas – Address at Nicky Hager public meeting
    I regard it as privilege to chair this public meeting. I have long had the greatest admiration for Nicky Hager’s work, and nothing I have read or heard in the media over the past week or so has caused me...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour and New Zealand Superannuation
    The kerfuffle in the wake of Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics has had a detrimental impact on our discussion of economic policies. Signs are that the main beneficiaries of the dirty politics revelations will be Winston Peters and Colin Craig; certainly National suffered...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Mike Hosking and the Leader’s Debat...
    A few weeks ago I blogged that Mike Hosking was a terrible choice as moderator for the TV One Party Leader’s Debate, because he is so embarrassingly biased in favour of John Key. So I watched the show with curiosity,...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Democracy and Cancer: A critical analysis of Dirty Politics
    Twenty years ago, England’s renowned television playwright Denis Potter died of pancreatic cancer.  Readers may recall his two masterpieces ‘Pennies from Heaven’ and ‘The Singing Detective’.  During a final television interview with Melvyn Bragg, Potter declared that he had named...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Cunliffe beats Key in First Leaders debate
    I watched the First Leaders debate at the Green Party #GreenRoomNZ, they were very kind to include me and the atmosphere was great. The debate was a resounding victory to Cunliffe. He won Round 1, Round 2, Round 3 and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • LIVE STREAM: The Green Room Leader’s Debate from 6:30pm
    The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding to the debate live, along with comment from thought leaders and commentators. ‘The Green Room’ 6pm – 8.30pm...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • How many taxpayer funded staff does John Key need to prepare for a Leaders ...
    John Key is currently at the Auckland Stamford Plaza with 40 staff, 4 undercover police cars and an entire floor booked out in preparation for tonights Leader’s debate. Isn’t 40 staff including coms, flown up to Auckland for a debate...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • A brief word on National Party Rodney MP, Mark Mitchell
    MP considers legal action against Nicky HagerThe National MP says he is considering taking a defamation case after the September 20 election.“Someone needs to be held accountable,” he said. Oh really champ? Brothers and sisters, there is a long way...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Greens advertise on Whaleoil – but not on The Daily Blog?
    PaknSave have shown ethical compass and blocked adverts on Whaleoil, yet the Greens are advertising on Whaleoil, and not The Daily Blog? I would imagine there are far more potential Green voters on The Daily Blog then ever are on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • It’s about the stupid economy stupid
    In focus group meetings, the sleepy hobbits of NZ by a staggering amount all believe that National are better economic stewards of the country than Labour, that’s why, instead of answering questions about blackmailing MPs, trawling brothels for dirt on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour Policy vs National Policy
    John Key’s favourite defence spin at the moment is people want to talk about policy and not hear answers on the ethics of trawling brothels, why Slater was given SIS information, blackmailing MPs into standing down, rigging candidate elections and hacking...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • The Green Room live streamed on TDB 6.30pm tonight for First Leaders debate
    The ‘Green Room’ will stream 6.pm tonight on The Daily Blog during the TV One leaders’ debate.Use #GreenRoomNZ to join in. The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Manukau East – the next Coalition in action
    A couple of weeks ago I had the pleasure of opening Voice Up – a youth forum run by young people in Otara. I had been asked as Chair of the Local Board to set the scene, encouraging young people...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – The Big Bang Theory
    It’s a shame that it took a brain injury for me to start seeing things with such startling clarity. The realisation that lawyering, fishing, parenting, selling cars and racing yachts had common themes was stunning. Not perhaps as stunning as...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how much Key aro...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls
    MIL OSI – Source: Selwyn Manning – Analysis Headline: 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls 5AA Australia: On this week’s Across the Ditch bulletin on 5AA Australia, host Peter Godfery and Selwyn Manning discuss the aftermath...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • La’o Hamutuk calls for inquiry into Timor GAP ‘mismanagement’ of oil ...
    The Suai project on the South Coast … “liberated” land but confused communities.Photo: La’o Hamutuk David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. AN INDEPENDENT Timor-Leste development and social justice agency has called for an inquiry into the Timor GAP corporation...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • What Is Nicky Hager?
    WHAT WILL HISTORY MAKE of Nicky Hager? That slight, perpetually boyish, journalist who descends periodically, like the admonishing angel in a medieval mystery play, to trouble our consciences and wreak merry havoc with the orderly conduct of our political affairs....
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Can anyone in msm explain how after Dirty Politics that they all got played...
    Would you not think, that after reading Dirty Politics, that our mainstream media wouldn’t allow themselves to get tricked and played again by the VERY SAME discredited pundits? The best new feature on Radio NZ is their ‘Blog Watch’ and their...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Crusher Collins caught out lying about Privacy Commissioner – is this her...
    Crusher angry. Crusher smash own career. Crusher more angry. You would think that after getting outed as such a nasty, vicious piece of work in Dirty Politics, that Crusher would be scrambling to dial back the lies and manipulations. Apparently...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Cunliffe vs Key – first leaders debate
    This is your election ‘moderator’ – just one more reason an incoming Government need to sack everyone at TVNZ and reform it into an actual public broadcaster. The first leaders debate happens this Thursday, 7pm on TV One. I have...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – An Old and Honourable Profession
      When Dirty Politics started to reference an ex-prostitute I began to get antsy. My first response was “come on Nicky, we decriminalised in 2003. Its sex worker.” My second response was “Ah oh. Who was it and did they...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Bought and paid for: the dirty politics of climate denial
    Has climate denial in New Zealand been bought and paid for by corporate interests? We already know that the ACT Party’s routine denial is closely linked to the financial support the party receives from wealthy free market fundamentalist Alan Gibbs,...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • If the msm read The Daily Blog, THIS wouldn’t be a surprise – explainin...
    Yawn. How embarrassing for Hamish Rutherford and Andrea Vance, their breathless article today suggests that the idea of Labour and NZ First cutting a  deal over the buy back of assets  is some how new news. Silly mainstream media  journalists. If...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker??
    Yesterday I did some calculations to find out what tax John Key pays compared to a worker on the minimum wage. And I put out this media release for the Mana Movement: MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Hip hop death threats – the selective outrage of our media
    PM death threat in hip hop songAn Auckland hip-hop crew slammed for releasing a song with lyrics that apparently include a threat to kill Prime Minister John Key are urging young people to enrol to vote. Kill The PM, by...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes
    Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this!
    I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this weird spear tackle from behind by his own company. I was listening to this interview at the time, and the awkwardness of it must be the worst...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Is it weird Radio NZ ban me yet still have….
    Is it weird Radio NZ ban me for life because I criticised the Prime Minister yet still have Matthew Hooton, David Farrar and Jordan Williams, 3 of the main protagonists revealed in Dirty Politics as part of their ongoing political...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Christchurch GCSB meeting – why mass surveillance matters in 2014
    This is the video for last weeks GCSB meeting in Christchurch. Don’t forget Nicky Hager’s public meeting Wednesday night in Auckland, TDB will live stream the event in the interests of our democracy. Broadcast starts 7.30pm here on TDB....
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Assange, Greenwald to appear at Town Hall meeting? + KDC is not the hacker ...
    Wikileaks founder and the engineer of revealing some of the largest abuses of power in the modern era, Julian Assange, is rumoured to be appearing at the September 15th Town Hall meeting. Assange would join award winning investigative journalist Glen...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Why Paula Bennett will be the next leader and Hooton throws the Prime Minis...
    I don’t think the public have any idea of the behind the scenes meltdown now occurring within National. There are plenty of decent right wingers who all have ethical standards who have looked at what their leaders have been doing and...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – That Awkward Feeling When Your Campaign Goe...
    Urgh. It’s a thankless and nearly impossible task politically firefighting some days. Somebody (who isn’t you, but who’s in your care, or whom you’ve got a close professional relationship with) does or says something stupid; somebody from the Media’s there...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Dirty politics goes viral
    Join the latest social networking craze this election that every Dog Cat and Jabba is putting on their facebook pages.     Joe Trinder – Ngāti Awa Born and born in Ōtepoti Ōtākou, Ex RNZN he is an Information Technology...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Blogwatch: An open letter to David Farrar: Please, be that guy
    Dear David, In light of  Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics, you wrote a blog entitled ‘Some changes on Kiwiblog’ and you suggested it was time to tighten up ship on your website, saying “I want to improve trust in myself,...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • What The Hell Was That! Reflections on the media’s coverage of the Intern...
    WHAT, EXACTLY, DO WE KNOW about the confrontation outside Internet-Mana’s campaign launch? Well, we know the news media was there in force. We also know Internet-Mana’s media person, Pam Corkery, blew her stack. We know that Corkery’s outburst led the...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • NZ First candidate – homophobic, bennie bashing anti-intellectual clown
    Oh God, apart from Ron Mark, Tracey Martin, Curwen Rolinson and Winston before midday, the woeful cavalcade of political circus freaks NZ First seem to attract has picked up another hitchhiker. This time Epsom candidate Cliff Lyon who said this about Labour… “If...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Nicky Hager Public Meeting LIVESTREAM on The Daily Blog 7.30pm Wednesday 27...
    As part of our commitment to the 2014 Election debate, The Daily Blog will Livestream the Nicky Hager public meeting in Auckland, 7.30pm live from the Mt Eden War Memorial this Wednesday on this site. Doors open at 7pm. It...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Opening Night. It’s like an opera!
    On Saturday night just gone, we collectively experienced one of the premier panegyrys of political pageantry in our three yearly electoral cycle. For one glorious weekend evening every three years, it’s not the All Blacks or some Super 14 team, or...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • New Zealand’s biggest problems are Economic Issues
    New Zealand’s biggest problems are Economic Issues (41%) while the World’s most important problems are War & Terrorism (35%) just three weeks before NZ Election...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • NZ 2014 Leaders Index – week ending 29 August
    Below is iSentia’s first weekly Leaders’ Index, showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. We will produce these reports for the next three...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Judgment in Paki v Attorney General
    Tamaiti Cairns said that today’s Supreme Court decision is complicated, but, in essence opens the door for Maori people to go forward with their essential claims to water. Further work is required and Pouakani Trust will continue to pursue its...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Supreme Court Decision on Maori Water Rights
    “ … the Supreme Court refused to give Pouakani people what they asked for, but may have given them something much, much better instead. The Appellants had argued that the Crown’s ownership of the River was as a fiduciary for...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Leaders Dinner with Campbell Live, Dessert with RadioLIVE
    John Campbell is hosting Colin Craig, Winston Peters, Laila Harre, Metiria Turei, Peter Dunne, Jamie Whyte and Te Ururoa Flavell LIVE from Auckland’s Grand Harbour Restaurant on Wednesday 3 September at 7pm....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Credit unions in the political spotlight
    Dirty politics was put aside last night as senior politicians outlined their universal support for growing the cooperatively owned credit union and mutual building society sector in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Maryan Street on issues of importance to older people
    Liam Butler interviews Hon Maryan Street MP on issues of importance to older New Zealanders...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • John Hanita Paki and others v The Attorney-General
    JOHN HANITA PAKI, TORIWAI ROTARANGI, TAUHOPA TE WANO HEPI, MATIU MAMAE PITIROI AND GEORGE MONGAMONGA RAWHITI v THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL OF NEW ZEALAND FOR AND ON BEHALF OF THE CROWN (“THE CROWN”) (SC 7/2010)...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Last Nights Leaders Debate Drives The #nzpol Wordcloud
    Following last nights leaders debate on TV One between John Key and David Cunliffe, the data insight organisation Qrious collected all tweets that used the hashtag #nzpol from approximately the last 24 hours to produce this wordcloud....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Campaign suggests reason behind suicide gender statistics
    An online campaign about meaning and belonging has revealed an interesting connection with the difference in suicide rates between men and women....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Act Policy Vindicated by Sensible Sentencing Data
    ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte says the Sensible Sentencing Trust's just released analysis of 3 Strikes legislation "proves ACT was right to promote the policy and that it has made New Zealand a much safer country. The figures show beyond...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • “Robin Hood tax and other clever ways to help our kids”
    It’s time to talk about tax. Not just income tax but other kinds of tax too....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Cannabis Laws Breach Treaty – ALCP
    Cannabis prohibition is neo-colonial oppression resulting in the disproportionate imprisonment of Maori, the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party says....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • 2014 Variation Broadcasting Allocation Decision Released
    The Electoral Commission has released a variation decision on the amount of time and money allocated to political parties for the broadcasting of election programmes for the 2014 General Election....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • New Zealand Shoppers- Demand Blue Tick Accredited Products
    Following ongoing concerns surrounding the issue of animal welfare in farming, particularly in the layer and broiler chicken sectors, the RNZSPCA is now asking consumers to purchase only eggs, pork, turkey and chicken that have been Accredited by the Blue...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • EDS welcomes Labour’s Environment Policy
    The Environmental Defence Society has welcomed Labour’s Environment Policy which recognises that New Zealand cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Candidate calls for an end to institutional racism
    29 AUGUST 2014 Tāmaki Makaurau candidate, Rangi McLean has spoken up in support of Irie Te Wehi-Takerei who was wrongfully accused of shoplifting at a Warehouse store in Manukau. "Over the last month, two different supermarkets have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Making tertiary education more accessible to Māori
    29 August 2014 The Māori Party launched its tertiary education policy today at Te Huinga Tauira o Te Mana Ākonga, the national hui for the Māori Teritary Students Association in Palmerston North. Te Tai Hauāuru candidate Chris McKenzie says the...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • NZ Sign Language programmes receives $11 million boost
    Deaf Aotearoa are thrilled with Education minister Hekia Parata’s announcement this week that $11 million in funding will go towards a range of New Zealand Sign Language initiatives, including First Signs – a programme that involves sign language...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Abortion violates the Human Rights of Fathers
    Fathers1Right to Life is concerned at the glaring imbalance that exists in law, in regard to the rights of men to defend the lives of the children they have fathered. Fatherhood commences at conception. Children in the womb, just like...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Hundreds to join march against male violence in Auckland CBD
    Hundreds of supporters are expected to join the 'Take Back the Night' march through central Auckland streets tomorrow night in solidarity with making the streets safe for women and the rainbow community to walk without fear of male violence....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Classic example of need for Conservative policy
    The Conservative Party Justice Spokesman, Garth McVicar believes the sentencing of killer Aaron McDonald is a classic example of why an overhaul of the parole and sentencing system is required.”...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Greens & Labour Politicising Bullying in Schools
    Family First NZ says that both the Greens and Labour are wanting to politicise and sexualise school children under the guise of bullying programmes rather than deal with the school bullying issue as it should be dealt with....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Wellington National Is Not Our Future Rally 30/8/14
    Thousands of people will march and rally at National is not our Future events on Saturday. Auckland is the main rally centre with supportive actions in Wellington, Dunedin, Christchurch and Hamilton. In Wellington, marchers will assemble at Te Papa...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • EPA grants marine consent for OMV exploration well
    The Environmental Protection Authority has granted a marine consent to OMV New Zealand Ltd for its Whio-1 exploration well in the Taranaki Basin....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • First anniversary of the horrific chemical attacks on Syria
    Members of the Syrian Community and friends are commemorating the first anniversary of the horrific chemical attacks on Syria, in Aotea Square on Saturday 30 August 2014, between 11-3 pm. The Assad regimes chemical attacks on al Ghouta were responsible...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Anniversary of the NZ Occupation of German Samoa
    Today, 29th August 2014, marks the 100 years centenary of the occupation of Samoa by New Zealand forces at the request of the British empire, ending the German rule of Samoa. It is also the starting point for the special...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Submissions sought on mosquito repellent
    The Environmental Protection Authority is calling for submissions on a portable mosquito repellent for use outdoors. The repellent consists of a strip impregnated with metofluthrin, a substance from the pyrethroid family....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Spot the difference – the leaders debate
    I watched the Leaders' debate last night and was struck by the fact that John Key accepted all of David Cunliffe's basic assumptions. For example, he did not say that the government should not tell farmers who they could sell...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Colin Craig’s tax figures do not add up and are dishonest
    “Colin Craig’s tax plan is to have two rates of income tax: 0% up to $20,000 and 25% above that. This will leave a $6.4 billion hole in the budget even before the new spending proposed by the Conservatives. The...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Dirty Politics Impacts National Party Support
    Media Release – For Immediate Release Dirty Politics Impacts National Party Support Support for National has dropped by 4.3% to 50.8%, the latest stuff.co.nz / Ipsos political poll shows....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Labour’s environment policy welcomed
    The independent conservation organisation Forest & Bird says that overall the Labour Party’s newly released environment policy would go a long way towards protecting New Zealand’s natural heritage....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • National: Not our Future Marches across New Zealand
    Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government's track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin to oppose National's...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Tune in to tonight’s debate from 7pm
    The countdown is on! You can watch the first leader’s debate for 2014 tonight, 7pm, on TV One ....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Gamblefree Day 1 September
    It's Gamblefree Day this Monday 1 September, the national awareness day for problem gambling in New Zealand. While traditionally celebrated on the first day of September, many events and activities are held both before and after this day to raise...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Success through captioning should be a given as a Right
    Success through captioning should be a given as a Right per the Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Alcohol Marketing Committee Questions Government’s Motives
    An Independent Expert Committee on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (IECAAS) has been formed out of concern amongst alcohol and public health researchers about the government’s Ministerial Forum on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (MFAAS)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • How Much Higher Can Auckland Prices Go?
    National's plan to liberalise the use of Kiwisaver funds and its proposal to raise ts cheap "Welcome Home" loan thresholds to help buyers purchase a new home has been welcomed by home building companies but attacked as a "welfare scheme...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • OPC submission period extended
    We have extended the submission period for the modified reassessment of a bee control affecting five organophosphate and carbamate insecticides (APP202142)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Vinay Deobhakta struck off roll of barristers and solicitors
    The New Zealand Lawyers and Conveyancers Disciplinary Tribunal has ordered former Tauranga lawyer Vinay Deobhakta to be struck off the roll of barristers and solicitors....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Major parties to front up for Climate Voter election debate
    New Zealand’s main political parties will take part in ‘The Great Climate Voter Debate’ on September 3....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Family violence… too big to be ignored
    As Annah Stretton gears up for her New Zealand Fashion Week show on Thursday she is utilizing her spotlight to help change the face of family violence in this country saying “the problem is far too big to ignore”....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Candidate’s SOS to northern Maori voters: Save our seats!
    (Extract from address by Rev Te Hira Paenga to Kura Hourua Maori Political Leaders hui, in Whangarei this evening)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Mary O’Neill to Stand for the Alliance in Napier
    The Alliance Party has confirmed Mary O’Neill as the Alliance candidate in the Napier Electorate for the 2014 election....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • TONIGHT [28/8/14]: The Great Political Comedy Debate
    It's a night for debating. You could stay home frowning at tonight's Leaders debate, or laugh it up with us at BATS!...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Cunliffe against personal responsibility over billboards
    The accusation by David Cunliffe that the Conservative Party is subscribing to a surveillance society by protecting its billboards via the use of motion sensor cameras reveals an anti-personal responsibility position by the about-to-be-retired Leader...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Groundbreaking health and climate conference
    The World Health Organization (WHO) is holding its first conference on climate change and health at its headquarters in Geneva this week, with New Zealand health experts in attendance....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Te Tai Tokerau Party
    Last night at the Leadership Academy of Company A debate Clinton Dearlove announced the creation of a new political party supported by Whanau and Hapu....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Significant fallout from Dirty Politics allegations
    Dirty politics ... costing National up to 3.8% of its pre-publication support Large numbers of New Zealanders are aware of and talking about the issues raised as a result of the publication of Nicky Hager’s book, Dirty Politics, according to...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Colin Craig is “deluded and dangerous” – Act
    “Colin Craig is proposing a radical transformation of our constitution. The Conservatives are proposing to overthrow of one hundred and fifty odd years of parliamentary democracy and replace it with binding referenda” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
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