The Green Party plans to protect marine mammals and ecosystems

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1. tracey 1

   31 August 2017 at 11:03 am

   And people complain about lack of policy
   • weka 1.1

     31 August 2017 at 11:29 am

     The Greens are overflowing with good policy atm. Let’s hope some of it gets through 🙂
     • tracey 1.1.1

       31 August 2017 at 11:34 am

       Am just sharing/clarifying some with The Chairman. 😉
2. Sans Cle 2

   31 August 2017 at 11:52 am

   That will piss Jenny Shipley off, although I see that she ceased being a director of Trans-Tasman Partnership a few years ago.
   • tracey 2.1

     31 August 2017 at 12:07 pm

     She seems to be struggling with some of her Directorships…

     Mainzeal
     Sentinel Assurance

     http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10866716
     • Sans Cle 2.1.1

       31 August 2017 at 12:34 pm

       She’s doing quite well for Oravida, and Oravida Water. Wholesale squander of NZ water, exported straight to China.High time for the water tax.
       • Stuart Munro 2.1.1.1

         31 August 2017 at 12:36 pm

         Actually I think we need a rorter tax – on former MPs appointed to positions for which they have no qualifications.
3. esoteric pineapples 3

   31 August 2017 at 12:07 pm

   “For the whales, it’s like someone dumping the contents of a vacuum cleaner onto their dinner plates.”

   I feel the same way about this government
   • tracey 3.1

     31 August 2017 at 12:08 pm

     chuckling
4. SpaceMonkey 4

   31 August 2017 at 1:21 pm

   The Greens have got my vote… oodles of good policy.
5. roy cartland 5

   31 August 2017 at 1:32 pm

   Aspirational – but why not? Imagine the dream team of them and LP.
6. Steve Wrathall 6

   31 August 2017 at 2:24 pm

   Except there is zero evidence that any whale has ever been harmed by seabed mining, or oil drilling
   • tracey 6.1

     31 August 2017 at 2:39 pm

     What say we put a jack hammer to work on your living room floor and see how the family feels after a week?

     Evidence that it won’t harm sea mammals is sketchy at best

     http://www.epa.govt.nz/eez/EEZ000004/EEZ000004_Kiwis_Against_Seabed_Mining_Incorporated_Elisabeth_Slooten_Evidence.pdf
   • One Anonymous Bloke 6.2

     31 August 2017 at 2:42 pm

     A policy proposal that has zero evidence to support it? Sounds like your kind of policy.
     • Tracey 6.2.1

       31 August 2017 at 3:07 pm

       Dead mammals tell no tales
     • Tracey 6.2.2

       31 August 2017 at 3:12 pm

       We could expect applicants undertake studies to prove they will do no harm, rather than the other way round.

       “This study presents evidence that the STB is a blue whale foraging ground and is an example of how extraction of marine resources can be sanctioned without a complete understanding of potential impacts on the environment or biodiversity. Human activities have already dramatically reduced blue whale numbers, leaving only a remnant population (Branch et al. 2004 Branch, TA, Matsuoka, K and Miyashita, T. 2004. Evidence for increases in Antarctic blue whales based on Bayesian modelling. Marine Mammal Science, 20: 726–754. doi:10.1111/j.1748-7692.2004.tb01190.x
       [Crossref], [Web of Science ®], [Google Scholar]
       ; Branch 2007 Branch, TA. 2007. Abundance of Antarctic blue whales south of 60 S from three complete circumpolar sets of surveys. Journal of Cetacean Research and Management, 9: 253–262.
       [Google Scholar]
       ). Foraging is a critical life history component of any animal, and for blue whales, the ability to encounter reliable, dense prey aggregations can dramatically impact survival and reproductive rates. Outside of the Antarctic there are few documented blue whale foraging grounds in the Southern Hemisphere. It is therefore essential that a firm understanding of blue whale distribution and habitat use patterns within the STB is gained before anthropogenic activities escalate to levels of disturbance that could cause displacement of blue whales from a potentially critical foraging ground.” http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00288330.2013.773919

       So, a small number of endangered creatures forage in an area about to be seabed mined but Steven thinks (I suggest the balance of probabilities is fair) that messing with their foraging grounds will not detrimentally impact them. The arrogance of the greedy human. The bizarre thing is he seems to be suggesting we do the seabed mining and when we find out it destroys mammals in the area we put that forward as evidence…. notwithstanding that the companies will do what they can to block the evidence gathering.
     • Tracey 6.2.3

       31 August 2017 at 3:13 pm

       Extinct mammals tell no tales.
   • Robert Guyton 6.3

     31 August 2017 at 3:04 pm

     Oops! Logged out unwittingly/automatically.
   • Robert Guyton 6.4

     31 August 2017 at 3:07 pm

     “zero evidence”
     Just out of interest, Steve, hard evidence aside, do you reckon marine mammals, including whales, are adversely affected by oil drilling or seabed mining and all that goes with those activities? I know I do, I’m just wondering, do you?

     (Sorry, moderator – must have logged out somehow)
   • Macro 6.5

     31 August 2017 at 3:30 pm

     Yes Steve – and you said the same thing about Climate Change.
     I think your considered opinions can be taken for what they are:
     Crap
7. Tautoko Mangō Mata 7

   31 August 2017 at 4:19 pm

   The National Government are incredibly keen on tourism ($$$$)but, at the same time, have pursued policies which are totally opposed to the preservation of the very features that draw tourists to NZ and which threaten to destroy the advertised clean green image that the Government has promoted.

   There has been a disregard of the importance of leaving the country in a decent condition for future generations. Unmitigated greed, changing the “standards” to hide the worsening stats and flogging off as much as they can for instant reward and for the benefit a just a few has been the modus operandi .

   The idea of a marine mammal sanctuary suggested by the Greens is an excellent one. We need a Labour -Green Government to save what is left of this country from the “jackals”.
8. Mosa 8

   31 August 2017 at 6:55 pm

   Great policy Great party Go GREENS
9. Exkiwiforces 9

   31 August 2017 at 7:53 pm

   Not sure if anybody has seen this?

   The Footage is quite frankly Fucking disgusting to see or watch and it no wonder the Arige Navy blew these assholes out of the water sometime ago.
   And remember NZ did this once using the A4 Skyhawk’s in the late 70’s as poor Navy ship couldn’t catch the two fishing as they were out running the Navy ship.

   Because if the greens want to send the Navy and the RNZAF on Fishery Patrols then the Navy must the right gear to the job properly aka ships fit for purpose as the current OPV’s when carrying the Seasprite Helicopter pushes the Ships ice belt well below the water (when the current OPV’s are a 100ton overweight already) and launching the RIB of the side in a high sea state is not with out risk, the necessary Rules Of Engagement, Orders For Opening Firing and Orders for Detainment aka arrest on the high seas.

   http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/08/wildlife-watch-galapagos-illegal-shark-fishing.html

   Sorry for my strong foul mouth language.
   • Exkiwiforces 9.1

     31 August 2017 at 9:12 pm

     Here’s China’s reply to the above.

     http://thediplomat.com/2017/08/china-no-evidence-proving-chinese-vessel-fishing-in-ecuadors-waters/
     • tracey 9.1.1

       1 September 2017 at 5:23 pm

       sigh

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