Daily review 02/05/2022

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1. Dennis Frank 1

   2 May 2022 at 6:21 pm

   Three News just reported that the sea-level monitoring website has been crashed most of the day due to so many people trying to use it – although the RNZ news earlier suggested there could have been cyber-attacks. Disgruntled Nat voters in denial linked to US corporate hacksters I guess.

   So Petone's drain network now has a shelf-life of less than 20 years. Freak-out time. They interviewed a middle-aged male pakeha who had a couple of teenage boys with him who said he's not worried because he's never seen the sea rise. Oughta join the Nats & stand for parliament, eh? Whereas the next pakeha male they asked, elderly, said he'd already shifted from central Petone to up in the hills.

   Luxon gave his pre-budget speech without mentioning climate change. She'll be right. Some of his mates living on the Takapuna waterfront will have to use nudge theory on him sometime soon…
2. Anne 2

   2 May 2022 at 6:24 pm

   If I heard the story correctly on TV1, former National Party MP, Matt King has received a letter informing him he will be arrested if he enters the parliamentary precinct. All those known to have participated in the protest are said to have been banned from parliament grounds.

   That means Winston Peters should have received one too.

   Oh dear, my heart bleeds for them . 😉

   Edit: https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/05/02/former-national-mp-banned-from-parliament-grounds-for-2-years/
   • Rosemary McDonald 2.1

     2 May 2022 at 8:19 pm

     Once you've finished your dance of joy Anne you might want to consider what this means.

     https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/former-national-mp-trespassed-from-parliament-grounds-after-being-identified-as-protester/QMFYV6DXOCX3ZYWN7YIPJ4AD4U/

     Those who participate in a protest that the sitting government disapproves of will be banned form participating in democracy at the seat of that democracy.

     Do they want to start another protest?
     • Molly 2.1.1

       2 May 2022 at 8:48 pm

       Agree. Nothing to celebrate.
     • Muttonbird 2.1.2

       2 May 2022 at 9:02 pm

       Reckon it stopped being a protest when they dumped their cars on Molesworth St. This was very early on in the piece.

       Later, they plumbed semi-permanent toilets and showers into the mains. That was the last straw and drew the appropriate police response.
       • Rosemary McDonald 2.1.2.1

         2 May 2022 at 9:57 pm

         … they dumped their cars on Molesworth St.

         They parked?!?

         …they plumbed semi-permanent toilets and showers into the mains.

         Ablution facilities?!? But this was 'the river of filth'…how dare they not live up to their name?

         So. The Government still pissed off eh? Can't get their tiny brains around the fact that thousands of fairly ordinary Kiwis gathered together and without any clear leadership built a village. Built a community. Organised…

         … the security detail, the laundry service, the first aid tent, the free food and drinks, the children's entertainment, the singing and dancing and the telling of stories. The political discussion and the health discussions and the provision of a venue to discuss the physical harms from the Covid shots and the emotional harms from the unjustified vaccine mandates.

         Oh, that's right…these protestors were not real New Zealanders.
         • Anne 2.1.2.1.1

           2 May 2022 at 10:38 pm

           Still living on an alternate planet I see.

           They desecrated the land on which our democratically elected parliament is situated. They illegally camped on the grass and forecourt. They left behind indescribable litter when they were finally driven off the precinct. They set fire to trees and debris. They left graffiti on buildings and pathways. They forced the closure of the surrounding streets making it impossible for residents and visitors to be able to enter or leave the area – not to mention the disruption to parliament and general governance of the country. They were rude and abusive. They attacked police officers who were only doing their duty to protect parliament and those who worked there. They bullied and frightened ordinary citizens going about their lawful business including schoolboys and schoolgirls. In short, their behaviour was appalling.

           And what did they achieve? Nothing.

           The vast majority of NZers were disgusted at what they saw with their own eyes. If this latest development acts as a deterrent for the future then it will be worthwhile.
           • Tony Veitch (not etc.) 2.1.2.1.1.1

             3 May 2022 at 4:46 am

             
           • Patricia Bremner 2.1.2.1.1.2

             3 May 2022 at 7:52 am

             I agree. Worst of all was the threats and misogyny aimed at the PM.

             Dissent does not allow threats to life and limb. Some are still carrying on with their self appointed "Sherrifs", so they do need to be reminded they overstepped protest and became a mob.
             • Rosemary McDonald …

               3 May 2022 at 8:13 am

               Dissent does not allow threats to life and limb.

               Patricia…you have a good memory and you are part of Labour's history…do you not remember auspicious day?
           • Rosemary McDonald 2.1.2.1.1.3

             3 May 2022 at 8:43 am

             Who are these "they" of which you speak?

             Because of course in your world, the world constructed for you by the government being challenged and their pet mainstream media, the protestors were one amorphous mass acting incomplete sync.

             This of course is complete and utter rubbish, as you would know if you'd been brave enough to step outside of your tiny bubble and made a genuine attempt to see the individuals involved and at least listen respectfully to their issues.

             Judging the whole by the tiny minority of arseholes in attendance is of course unreasonable and unfair. But hey…not New Zealanders…right?

             Oh, the 'graffiti' was done in chalk.

             And what did we achieve…that remains to be seen.

             Oh, how's the booster and 5-11 year old vaccination program going? Seems to me that many folks are voting with their sleeves.

             A tune for you…
             • Anne …

               3 May 2022 at 9:36 am

               This of course is complete and utter rubbish, as you would know if you'd been brave enough to step outside of your tiny bubble and made a genuine attempt to see the individuals involved and at least listen respectfully to their issues.

               Listen respectfully to a bunch of crackpots and ne'er do wells bellowing on about "fascist government" and "evil prime-minister"? Most of them wouldn't know a fascist if they fell over one. "They" were the stupid and misguided together with the crackpots, the haters and the thugs which made up the bulk of the mob. Anyone with any sense of 'non-violent protest within acceptable bounds' was out of there after the first few days.

               Please do return to your insular bubble of make-believe and leave the grown-ups to have a nice conversation among themselves.
         • Muttonbird 2.1.2.1.2

           3 May 2022 at 9:33 am

           They parked, illegally. They installed toilets, illegally. They camped, illegally.

           These 'fairly ordinary Kiwis' are not fairly ordinary at all, they are fringe, anti-establishment, conspiracy nutters who have been captured by well funded international anti-vax movements.

           They are real New Zealanders, but they are also a major embarrassment.
           • gsays 2.1.2.1.2.1

             3 May 2022 at 1:04 pm

             Illegally but not unlawfully.
3. Poission 3

   2 May 2022 at 6:27 pm

   Wellington construction company falls over,eight building sites shut.Over extended with high product costs from building suppliers.

   https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/128511656/wellington-construction-company-armstrong-downes-commercial-appoints-liquidators
   • pat 3.1

     2 May 2022 at 6:54 pm

     Dominoes
     • Poission 3.1.1

       2 May 2022 at 7:13 pm

       No doubt there will be more.
   • Patricia Bremner 3.2

     3 May 2022 at 7:54 am

     It appears arrangements have been made with their Bank to finish the 8 homes. Seems like common sense has prevailed to avoid a domino effect with smaller tradies caught up.
4. Molly 4

   2 May 2022 at 7:32 pm

   Rosemary, may be of particular interest to you. Should interest us all.

   https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-is-canada-euthanising-the-poor-

   Why is Canada euthanising the poor?

   It only took five years for the proverbial slope to come into view, when the Canadian parliament enacted Bill C-7, a sweeping euthanasia law which repealed the ‘reasonably foreseeable’ requirement – and the requirement that the condition should be ‘terminal’. Now, as long as someone is suffering from an illness or disability which ‘cannot be relieved under conditions that you consider acceptable’, they can take advantage of what is now known euphemistically as ‘medical assistance in dying’ (MAID for short) for free.

   Soon enough, Canadians from across the country discovered that although they would otherwise prefer to live, they were too poor to improve their conditions to a degree which was acceptable.

   Not coincidentally, Canada has some of the lowest social care spending of any industrialised country, palliative care is only accessible to a minority, and waiting times in the public healthcare sector can be unbearable, to the point where the same Supreme Court which legalised euthanasia declared those waiting times to be a violation of the right to life back in 2005.
   • pat 4.1

     2 May 2022 at 7:34 pm

     A failing health system and a lack of trained staff and an euthanasia bill…coincidence?
     • Rosemary McDonald 4.1.1

       2 May 2022 at 7:52 pm

       A failing health system and a lack of trained staff and an euthanasia bill…coincidence?

       The Human Rights type cases I have been involved in with respect to disability supports in NZ have often spent much time in Court referring and deferring to the Canadian Human Rights legislation.

       Funny that.
   • Rosemary McDonald 4.2

     2 May 2022 at 8:10 pm

     This was the gist of the submission I made on the last Euthanasia Bill. Back when I still clung to a shred of hope the effort counted for something

     It will happen here that people will opt for the blue juice rather than trust that the health and disability and social support system will rally around to allow a stressless life while facing debility and perhaps death.

     If we had a kind government…

     We know a spinal injured Kiwi living in Canada at the moment and it sounds like he's able to access reasonable care. Well…that was a while back. They have legal access to Cannabis over there…I think that helps.

     I despair. As Pat also points out…a failing health system etc. It's not just here. Not just Canada. Not just the UK. Hard to believe we're all of us victims of incompetent leadership for the past forty years. I ascribe it to malice.
     • roblogic 4.2.1

       3 May 2022 at 7:57 am

       When nurses are paid the same as real estate agents we might see a bit of balance in the health sector. At the moment the tax & regulatory structure of most western economies encourages insanely huge asset bubbles, not properly paid workers.
     • Molly 4.2.2

       3 May 2022 at 8:13 am

       It was reading your perspective that made me look to the possible consequences, rather than stop at the stated intentions of the bill.

       Knowing some of the failings of the health and benefits systems, and the disability sector, I agreed with you.
       • Rosemary McDonald 4.2.2.1

         3 May 2022 at 8:31 am

         So many broken promises from so many successive NZ governments and the situation in health, disability, aged care, housing, education and social care has only go worse.

         The 'I had good treatment so the system must be working…' comments here from some on The Left I find almost offensive. It is clearly obvious why nothing has got appreciably better for most, when so many choose to place their privileged experiences above the inadequate treatment many others have in the same system.

         Until all voters demand that these taxpayer funded services work equally well or all ….nothing will change.
         • Molly 4.2.2.1.1

           3 May 2022 at 11:14 am

           "The 'I had good treatment so the system must be working…' comments here from some on The Left I find almost offensive. "

           I had a discussion with a friend whose wife had gone through a horrific birth experience at a hospital, and went through the stressful complaints process. During the intervening time he snapped his tendons, and was treated at the same hospital.

           After she updated the table on how the complaint was progressing, he offered this: "My experience was completely different. Everyone I saw was great."

           I'd say, words failed me – but of course they didn't.
   • Populuxe1 4.3

     3 May 2022 at 12:45 pm

     Sure, because ultra-conservative Tory troll rag The Spectator, owned by the same oligarch who owns the Telegraph and formerly edited by Boris Johnson is an accurate and impartial source…
     • gsays 4.3.1

       3 May 2022 at 1:10 pm

       Only 'coz you mention Johnson and Blair and the media, I thoroughly recommend this:

       https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_TXlLWOAZkU
       • Populuxe1 4.3.1.1

         3 May 2022 at 4:31 pm

         I've been binging it for a while now
     • Molly 4.3.2

       3 May 2022 at 3:11 pm

       You could choose parts of the article to search for other reports like I did, to check for the level of accuracy and veracity.

       Or, do what seems popular, and dismiss source without effort.

       Your time's your own.

       Here’s the government report on expected annual savings:

       https://www.pbo-dpb.gc.ca/web/default/files/Documents/Reports/RP-2021-025-M/RP-2021-025-M_en.pdf

       And also:
       Four Toronto doctors were aware of Sophia’s case and they also wrote to federal housing and disability government officials on her behalf. In that letter the doctors confirmed that her symptoms improved in cleaner air environments and asked for help to find or build a chemical-free residence.

       “We physicians find it UNCONSCIONABLE that no other solution is proposed to this situation other than medical assistance in dying,” they wrote.

       The letter was signed by Dr. Lynn Marshall, an environmental physician, Dr. Chantal Perrot, a family physician and MAiD provider, Dr. Justine Dembo, a psychiatrist, and Dr. James Whyte, a family doctor and psychotherapist. The physicians who wrote the letter all declined to speak to CTV News.

       https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/woman-with-chemical-sensitivities-chose-medically-assisted-death-after-failed-bid-to-get-better-housing-1.5860579

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