Daily Review 15/09/2017

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  1. Graeme 1
    15 September 2017 at 5:57 pm

    Dead man walking….

    “National MP Jian Yang reviewing citizenship declarations”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11922788

    Who’s the serious looking bloke standing behind him?

  2. Matiri 2
    15 September 2017 at 6:01 pm

    Chris Bishop? And the gormless looking one is Simon Bridges of course!

  3. dv 3
    15 September 2017 at 6:34 pm

    The latest Unicef report has us languishing at the bottom of the developed world in relation to the health and welfare our children and youth.

    Child Poverty (41/41?)
    Teen Suicide (34/34)
    Jobless Households (35/37)
    Environmental Awareness (34/36)
    Teenage Birth Rate (36/41)
    Inequity in Education (34/39
    Inclusive Economy (34/40)
    Homicide and Bullying (33/40)
    Neonatal Mortality Rate (28/36)
    Reducing Inequality (26/41)
    Food Insecurity (21/41)
    Education Performance (15/38)

    http://localbodies-bsprout.blogspot.cz/2017/06/nz-now-ranks-at-bottom-of-developed.html

    • greywarshark 3.1
      15 September 2017 at 7:56 pm

      Oh come on someone has to be bottom. We have agreed to be bottom instead of other desperate countries in a face-saving measure for them and expect to be adequately compensated for our gesture. /sarc

    • Macro 3.2
      15 September 2017 at 8:42 pm

      Yep! and you wonder how anyone with any degree of social awareness could possibly vote for this to continue…..
      National, if they had any sense of fairness, honesty, justice, or shame, would withdraw from this election forthwith as an acknowledgement of their complete and utter failure to deliver a fair and decent society. But that’s highly unlikely because they lack all of the above qualities.
      National – delivering Poverty, Suicide, Joblessness, Homelessness, and Hopelessness to thousands of New Zealanders.

      • WILD KATIPO 3.2.2
        15 September 2017 at 11:12 pm

        AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

        National with a sense of fairness, honesty, justice, or shame !!!

        AHAHAHAHAHA!!! , – I LOVE IT.

        I reckon I got a bridge to sell you transported in lovingly by an entourage of flying pink pigs !!!!

        The only claim to fame the ‘ National’ party has is the party of the fucked up and willing to fuck up anyone associated with them. L0L0L0L !

        Just look at those UNICEF stats , – just fucking look at them !!!!!

        Heres a better idea,- why dont we ( after Labour and the Greens win the election ) demand a Commission of Inquiry into just who created this fucked up situation and also demand retrospective justice arching back 33 years to where it all began.

        You know , – an inquiry that would take us right back in time to about the year 1984?

        And then when restorative justice had been done ,- 25 year prison sentences for treason , – just long enough for those in their ‘golden years’ to rot and die looking at four boringly painted walls?

        AFTER they had paid for their prison upkeep out of their own dishonest gains from the taxpayers and AFTER they had been asset stripped with proceeds going into a public consolidation fund and AFTER they were forced to publicly denounce neo liberalism for the wanton and unbridled theft of the commons wealth that it was ?

        I would say that would just about make us all square ,… wouldn’t you ?

        New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?
        http://www.newrightfight.co.nz/pageA.html

        • WILD KATIPO 3.2.2.1
          15 September 2017 at 11:43 pm

          Oh btw , MACRO … in total agreement with you matey 🙂

          Just struck me as so funny…

          ‘ National with a sense of fairness, honesty, justice, or shame !!! ‘

          Like the British aristocracy who led the ANZACS in World War One ,…. exactly the same sort of ‘ Born to Rule ‘ deluded jumped up sort of wimp arsed wankers who would squeal in terror if a real working class soldier got them alone in the trenches without their Bovver boy back ups and their pips and their epaulets and their parade ground staffs and far from any witnesses….and told them whats what to their face in no uncertain terms ….

          Like the Aussies and the Kiwis did.

          We need the same sort of balls in dealing with these neo liberal traitors as earlier generations had.

          Give em nothing , take them nowhere.

  4. weka 4
    15 September 2017 at 6:47 pm

    Savemart have apparently fired their unionised workers in Auckland after RNZ started covering the very poor working conditions there this week.

    Is that legal?

    https://twitter.com/CheckpointRNZ/status/908575646388854784

  5. ScottGN 5
    15 September 2017 at 7:07 pm

    Call me a desperado but I’ve started keeping tabs on the long range weather forecast from Metservice for election day. Looks good so far…fine and partly cloudy for much of the country.

    • Pete 5.1
      15 September 2017 at 7:31 pm

      More votes will be not made because of non-enrolment than weather.

      • ScottGN 5.1.1
        15 September 2017 at 7:38 pm

        That’s most likely true but the weather on the day does play a part.

        • Anne 5.1.1.1
          15 September 2017 at 7:48 pm

          Long range weather maps have a large high centred to the northwest of the country for election weekend. That augurs well for everyone. Moderate to fresh westerlies with occasional light showers in the west. Mainly dry in the east. Couldn’t ask for better at this time of the year.

          Now lets hope they’ve got it right.

          • Rosemary McDonald 5.1.1.1.1
            15 September 2017 at 10:02 pm

            “That augurs well for everyone.”

            Such sunny optimism! However….keep your eyes open, and prick up your ears….rehearse your loudest cry! For there’s folk out there who’ll do you harm….

    • Draco T Bastard 5.2
      15 September 2017 at 9:24 pm

      Call me a desperado…

      Ok

  6. Modnar 6
    15 September 2017 at 7:49 pm

    My sister-in-law on her decision to vote National suggested Jacinda “should really be having babies and not be in politics”…this is 2017. Facepalm.

    • Macro 6.1
      15 September 2017 at 8:52 pm

      OMG!
      You do have to wonder…
      I remember vividly in one of my 4th form classes in the 80’s and a very capable young woman told me that there was no way she was going to pursue maths beyond 5th form because it would be useless to her – her mission in life was to marry and have children.
      OTOH My daughter is not buying her 4 year old nephew a truck for his b’day – the present is to be gender neutral! 🙂

    • Ad 6.2
      15 September 2017 at 9:04 pm

      My mother-in-law said “Well I’m not voting for a horse” (!)

      But she could cope with Winston, which was better than English at least.

      • Modnar 6.2.1
        15 September 2017 at 9:25 pm

        Heard a few of the horse quips. It’s a deep hatred of “other” under its many guises of sexism, conservatism and often ageism. Change is hard for some.

        • WILD KATIPO 6.2.1.1
          15 September 2017 at 11:57 pm

          I dont give a shit who it is or what they look like ,… if it weakens the neo liberal / globalist cause ,… they are my allies.

          The long game is step by step , little by little , grind em down.

          Its a war of attrition.

  7. ScottGN 7
    15 September 2017 at 7:50 pm

    Hmmm. That Stuff “Who’s got your vote” poll still has Labour and National in pretty much the same position they were in the last RR/Newshub Poll.

    • Modnar 7.1
      15 September 2017 at 7:54 pm

      The 6# TOP figure somewhat skew Lab #s down I spose.

    • ianmac 7.2
      15 September 2017 at 8:36 pm

      I voted 3 times just now. Once through Firefox,Chrome and Safari. Seemed to go through so anyone of any stripe could do that especially a desperate Nat.

      • Macro 7.2.1
        15 September 2017 at 8:56 pm

        Hehehe – voting early and often I see.
        But self selected polls are a complete waste of time as you have just demonstrated.

  8. Robert Guyton 8
    15 September 2017 at 8:01 pm

    Bridges’ smile – that’s Prozac – right?

    • ianmac 9.1
      15 September 2017 at 8:38 pm

      Won’t load Anne. Overloaded?

    • Anne 9.2
      15 September 2017 at 8:40 pm

      Looks like the link is broken. Overload maybe.

    • The Fairy Godmother 9.3
      15 September 2017 at 8:40 pm

      What is the result. The site seems to have crashed.

      • Anne 9.3.1
        15 September 2017 at 8:47 pm

        OK from memory:

        Seats in house:
        Nats. 50
        Labour 49
        Greens 11
        NZ 1st 6
        Maori P. 2
        ACT 1

        Lab/Greens/Maori Party – 62
        National/NZ 1st/ACT – 57

        • ianmac 9.3.1.1
          15 September 2017 at 8:51 pm

          Thanks Anne, That is nearly a perfect result!

        • Bearded Git 9.3.1.2
          15 September 2017 at 9:03 pm

          Roy Morgan Votes:

          Nat 40.0 Lab 39.5 Gr 9.0 NZF 6.0 MP 2.0 ACT 0.5

          Labour/Green government here we come!!!

        • mikesh 9.3.1.3
          16 September 2017 at 8:23 am

          Act 1 could be an overhang seat, which would see National/ NZ1st/ Act with 58 seats. Redistribution of the support for parties not getting 5% would probably give the left one extra seat, giving them 63 seats to the right´s 58.

          However, on those figures NZ 1st would probably support the left on C&S in return for some small concession.

          • mikesh 9.3.1.3.1
            16 September 2017 at 8:30 am

            Sorry. Figures quoted probably include redistributed seats, so 62 – 58.

          • Anne 9.3.1.3.2
            16 September 2017 at 8:42 am

            However, on those figures NZ 1st would probably support the left on C&S in return for some small concession.

            Agree.

      • Carolyn_nth 9.3.2
        15 September 2017 at 9:17 pm

        Final Roy Morgan New Zealand Poll shows Labour/Greens (60 seats) with Maori Party support favoured to win knife-edge election over National/NZ First/Act NZ (58 seats).

        In September support for a potential Labour/Greens coalition has increased to 48.5% (up 7% from mid-August 2017) now well ahead of incumbent National on 40% (down 2.5%).

        National remains (just) the most popular party with support of 40%, however this is a large drop of 7% since the 2014 Election which looks set to cost the party a chance of leading a new Government after next week’s election.

        Labour’s support has surged on the back of new Leader Jacinda Ardern to 39.5% – up 14.4% since the 2014 Election, and up 7% since mid-August just after Ardern became Leader.

        Greens support of 9% is down 1.7% since the Election, but unchanged on a month ago, just after former Leader Metiria Turei resigned her job in late July.

        The surge in support for Labour has come at the expense of New Zealand First with support down 2.7% from the election to 6% and now just above the 5% threshold for winning list seats. Support for New Zealand First has plunged by 5.5% from last month.

        Overall support for the governing National-led coalition was down 6.8% from the election to 42.5% with support for National’s coalition partners virtually unchanged: Maori Party on 2% (up 0.7%), Act NZ on 0.5% (down 0.2%) and United Future on 0% (down 0.2%) with long-time party leader Peter Dunne not recontesting his seat at this year’s election.

        Support for the parties currently outside Parliament was 3% led by new party The Opportunities Party (T.O.P.) unchanged on 2% with the Conservatives on 0.5% – down a significant 3.5% since the 2014 New Zealand Election.

  10. Pat 10
    15 September 2017 at 8:38 pm

    am guessing this is the other half of Josie Pagani (is not a common name)….something of a tag team it would appear…I have never felt sorry for Stephen Franks until a couple of days ago when he was on RNZs panel with the exceedingly verbose Josie

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/thepanel/20170914

    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/09/14/47950/time-for-jacinda-to-make-some-enemies

    it also appears they are well matched in their dubious thought processes

  11. Draco T Bastard 11
    15 September 2017 at 8:47 pm

    HiveMind Report – A Universal Basic Income for Aotearoa NZ

    UBI is a complicated issue. There were a wide range of opinions and views represented in this HiveMind discussion and it appears there is still uncertainty regarding certain aspects of UBI policy. However, it was encouraging that there were some clear points of consensus among the 232 participants in this exercise regardless of these differing views.

    We discuss the results of this HiveMind survey below by focusing in particular on those statements that were agreed upon by over 60% of respondents.

    labour and Greens, when they’re in government, should concentrate upon creating a UBI.

  12. Cinny 12
    15 September 2017 at 8:55 pm

    On The Nation tomorrow they are doing a piece about the proposed Waimea Dam which is located in Nick Smiths electorate.

    Just thought I’d mention…. presently if you drive across the Waimea Plains you will notice Nick Smith hoardings on most of the farms on the Appleby Highway and one of Maureen Pugh on a Vineyard still on the plains but just over the electorate boundary.

    I think the whole thing is a rort personally, there are massive conflicts of interest. And I’m really fucked off they are even considering using my rates for it. Anyways looking forward to the story in the morrow.

  13. AsleepWhileWalking 13
    15 September 2017 at 9:24 pm

    ACC does more dodgy shit, this time developing predictive software

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11922430

    “ACC said staff could see an estimate of the client’s likely recovery duration, and used that to ensure “proactive management” and introduce “interventions” where recoveries were not progressing as expected.

    Forster said that was a huge concern, because ACC staff and managers were driven by exit targets – the time in which they could get their clients off the books.

    “Targets combined with predictions could drive unlawful and unethical behaviour, such as exiting people from the scheme when they still need ACC’s help,” Forster said.

    He did not think ACC had client consent for the corporation to use their data in the model, unless there were forms he had not seen, which was unfair.”

  14. ianmac 14
    15 September 2017 at 10:20 pm

    On the radio Trevor Mallard named the bloke who made up the nasty posts about Jacinda as though from Rotary. He was a member of Chris Bishop’s team. A photo was supplied.

  15. WILD KATIPO 15
    16 September 2017 at 12:15 am

    You get any more National / ACT types comin’ round trying to tell you lies, just think of this song and tell em to f@ck off.

    REBEL SON-OUTTA MY FACE – YouTube
    outta of my face lyrics rebel son▶ 3:15

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