Daily review 16/06/2020

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  1. weka 1
    16 June 2020 at 5:48 pm

    "One woman experienced mild symptoms, the other was symptom-free."

    https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/media-releases/two-new-cases-covid-19-0

    What's the current thinking on asymptomatic cases of covid? That she contracted it very recently? Or that some people just don't have symptoms?

    • Pat 1.1
      16 June 2020 at 6:46 pm

      Auckland to Wellington on a tank ..and no test pre release!!!

      Dosnt pass the sniff test

      Someone being less than honest

      • Hooch 1.1.1
        16 June 2020 at 7:21 pm

        I’ve actually done Auckland to Wellington on a single tank in a 96 Nissan so it is possible. It needs to be full to overflowing though.

        • Pat 1.1.1.1
          16 June 2020 at 7:23 pm

          and as you approach Wellington whats the first thing you plan to do?

        • bwaghorn 1.1.1.2
          16 June 2020 at 7:47 pm

          Did you manage it without emptying your own tank in a public facility?

          • Hooch 1.1.1.2.1
            16 June 2020 at 8:00 pm

            Nah, had one stop for food and a piss. It was pretty gruelling though and I do find it hard to believe that they wouldn’t have stopped somewhere. I guess it’s feasible they had a packed lunch and went on the side of the road etc

      • Sabine 1.1.2
        16 June 2020 at 7:53 pm

        also you can take a emergency tin of gasoline? I generally always have an extra 15 l in the car when going on long road trips.

        • Pat 1.1.2.1
          16 June 2020 at 7:56 pm

          You can do a lot of things…what is likely that two tourists would do after being released from a quarantine situation in a hire car and a 650 km road trip?

          • Macro 1.1.2.1.1
            16 June 2020 at 9:10 pm

            A hybrid will travel from Auckland to Wellington and half way back on a tank of petrol these days. My Prius uses around 4 litres of petrol per hundred km on a journey such as that. The capacity of the tank is 40 litres. It's 635 km from Auckland to Wellington, so that means a fuel consumption of around 25-26 litres. Easily done.

      • millsy 1.1.3
        16 June 2020 at 9:23 pm

        The government needs to name these two women and publish their pics so people who have been in contact with them during that trip can take the appropriate measures.

        People have made a *lot* of sacrifices here, and to go back into lockdown would send more than a few to breaking point. There is a time and a place to act out your Thelma and Louise fantasy. It isnt during a pandemnic.

        • Leighton 1.1.3.1
          16 June 2020 at 9:48 pm

          National should now be sitting back quietly and waiting. If this turns into an outbreak (unlikely but possible) it will undoubtedly be an election game changer, as long as Todd doesn't ruin it by opening his mouth and reminding everyone what a muppet he is.

          • observer 1.1.3.1.1
            17 June 2020 at 12:10 am

            National want to open the borders to Australia, and China, and international students, and farm workers, and anybody else they can think of, repeating "Economy! Economy!" while taking no responsibility at all for the inevitable consequences.

            If they want to fight the election on their "open up, she'll be right, what could go wrong?" fantasy, then bring it on.

            • Leighton 1.1.3.1.1.1
              17 June 2020 at 8:09 am

              @observer – I know, that's why they should shut up and watch, as otherwise everybody mad at the Govt about this lapse will realise that National's policies are far worse.

        • observer 1.1.3.2
          17 June 2020 at 12:06 am

          That bears no relation at all to what happened. And "publish their pics"? Why not tar and feather them too.

          It's really disappointing that on the Standard we get people joining the unthinking pile-on. Read up on all the precautionary measures the women have taken, and compare with the selfish behaviour of the teenagers who absconded, just for fun. That was far worse.

    • RedBaronCV 1.3
      16 June 2020 at 7:14 pm

      Does anyone know who is actually running the system on the ground. Has it been privatised and outsourced and if so to whom?

  2. ScottGN 2
    16 June 2020 at 6:04 pm

    The branch-stacking scandal that has engulfed the Andrews Labor government in Victoria has claimed 3 ministerial scalps in little over a day and a half.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/adem-somyurek-branch-stacking-scandal-marlene-kairouz-quits/12358610?section=politics

  3. observer 3
    16 June 2020 at 6:20 pm

    Nick Smith on TV1 news has found a Big Issue … a slide outside Parliament.

    Somebody in Muller's office should have had a word. "Do we want National MPs to be on telly standing next to a slide? With our polling, is that really the smartest photo op?"

    • greywarshark 4.1
      16 June 2020 at 8:54 pm

      On an informative piece on Radionz about drinking bleach etc. This is about man in NZ, and the USA bunch making money (surprise, surprise) from playing on people's fears and showing how they despise people and lie to them.

      Blake has recently stopped selling dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO) online. The solvent byproduct of the wood pulp making process has been touted in the past as an alternative cancer treatment.

      The Miracle Mineral NZ website advised users to take DMSO orally or through the skin.

      The Genesis II Church of Health and Healing originated in Florida and is not religious; its sole function is to promote the use of the chlorine dioxide bleach formula that it calls Miracle Mineral Supplement, or MMS, which its followers also sell.

      To become a 'bishop' of the church – a title held by Roger Blake – one can download a $320 video course, and must provide two video testimonials of people who have been 'treated' with chlorine dioxide.

      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/419150/covid-19-bleach-cure-sold-by-new-zealand-man-rusts-steel

      My free advice would be to take the old fashioned remedy of a squeezed lemon in a cup of warm water with a half teaspoon of honey dissolved in it. Stir, and I don’t what will happen when you drink, but it will taste quite good and is an old fashioned remedy that the oldsters used to swear by. And note – swearing is not obligatory.

    • millsy 5.1
      16 June 2020 at 7:43 pm

      I called that — I knew that we would have lynching returned in the USA under Trump.

      • Sabine 5.1.1
        16 June 2020 at 7:55 pm

        It's was all that economic anxiety that the white working class male suffers that compelled them to vote for the shitheel.

        • roblogic 5.1.1.1
          17 June 2020 at 9:28 am

          Scott Adams (Dilbert creator and Trump supporter) is now threatening that "there's a giant Red Pill coming".

          These MAGA guys are deep in a rabbit hole, reality is beginning to puncture the illusion, and they are reacting violently

  6. roblogic 6
    16 June 2020 at 9:48 pm

    Plan B doofus suddenly changes tune from open borders to iron curtain. Make your mind up!

    https://twitter.com/kiwi_things/status/1272811712605908992?s=21

    • Incognito 6.1
      16 June 2020 at 10:42 pm

      Are you possibly confusing him with somebody else?

      • Anne 6.1.1
        16 June 2020 at 10:58 pm

        His face is familiar to me so he has appeared on TV in recent times.

        Jacinda has this evening clarified the Covid failure. It looks like the stuff-up occurred either at the place where they were isolating.

        Both she and Dr. Bloomfield must be spitting tacks right now:

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12340508

        • Incognito 6.1.1.1
          16 June 2020 at 11:16 pm

          Des Gorman has never been shying away from giving his expert opinion. He appeared before the Epidemic Response Committee as well. He’s not a member of the Plan B group; they are in a league of their own.

          Every process and every chain is as strong as its weakest link. The system was never designed to be fool proof or watertight at every level and that’s why it is important to have multiple levels or barriers to contain the virus spread. Having exemptions always carries the risk of judgement errors as well as communication errors. A central database and command centre that pools all decisions in a timely manner could be one way to mitigate against these things.

          I guess we (NZ) may have dodged another bullet because the women involved were not at fault as such and did not try to circumvent the system deliberately.

          I don’t know if I want to find out whether we’re out at the third strike though 🙁

      • roblogic 6.1.2
        16 June 2020 at 11:28 pm

        Yes, my mistake, had made an assumption in my comment

  7. Graeme 7
    16 June 2020 at 9:50 pm

    Well National candidate and Southern Institute of Technology wants to use Queenstown as a quarantine facility for her overseas students.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/121830812/queenstown-pitched-as-a-quarantine-town-for-international-students

    Well Penny, FUCK OFF

    Just think about it, how are you going to keep your students in their quarantine facility for two weeks with everything that Queenstown has to offer on the other side of the door. Armed guards, or razor wire fences? Because that’s what it would take to keep them in.

    Then there’s the effect it would have on other visitors, who would want to come to the town when there’s students from who knows where being quarantined there, and probably walking around freely.

    The hotels need a hand, but this is likely to do more harm than good.

    • RedBaronCV 7.1
      16 June 2020 at 11:12 pm

      Pretty much my thoughts. Cancelling any student work permits except maybe for Phd's would help thin this out. But this is an age group that might just decide to go to the dairy for a snack no matter what the rules are. Nor are these people with any "social investment" in the well being of New Zealand – It's not their relatives who might die.

      Perhaps we could reinstate Soames Island in Wellington harbour –

      But I can see all these selfish groups demanding that their pet income stream be let in rather than than adapting. And don't forget that there will be a hard right group that would prefer that we were like Trump's USA and had the disease here- just letting the rip, then making everyone work, tourists coming it so that they get their profits flowing. Maybe they are hoping to get another case zero inunder the radar .

      Nor do I have any sympathy for the hotels – overseas owned and paying disgusting wages to – wait for it – people on limited work permits who they would then demand reentry for..

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