Daily review 21/11/2019

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  1. Rosemary McDonald 1
    21 November 2019 at 6:00 pm

    "Income adequacy "… must be the expression du jour.

    Sepuloni has used it at least 6 times during her interview on rnz Checkpoint just now…make that 7. No, 8. She's now saying how much she wishes the gummint could "do something", she now talks about CPAG, now how technology issues are slowing down implementation of the recommendations of the WEAG.

    Gotta love this lot.

    • Pat 1.1
      21 November 2019 at 6:31 pm

      she did also mention it had to be approved by Cabinet and included in the Budget

      • Rosemary McDonald 1.1.1
        21 November 2019 at 7:35 pm

        I get more than a whiff of the 'God helps those who help themselves .' from Carmel.

        And Jacinda trots out the 'in work, in study, volunteering or caring…' line with such an aspirational tone.

        Tough shit for those who are unable to work because of illness or disability. At the very fucking least they could bring the Supported Living Payment up to the level of National Super. Take it from an expert…living in a Bus is just about ibleedingdyllic on the Super. On the SLP it was just about doable….but we live the life of Riley now.

        Comparatively that is.

        "Income adequacy " my arse.

        Sepuloni just couldn't bring herself to say "Poverty".

        • Pat 1.1.1.1
          21 November 2019 at 7:44 pm

          I thought it one of her better efforts….but my point is there will be no change pre budget regardless…and maybe not then either

          • Sacha 1.1.1.1.1
            21 November 2019 at 8:07 pm

            Her continued refusal to actually do anything is playing right into opposition framing of the whole government. It does not take 'technology' to increase benefits immediately. Shit or get off the pot.

            • Pat 1.1.1.1.1.1
              21 November 2019 at 8:10 pm

              you appear to have missed the point….'she' dosnt control the budget

              • Sacha …
                21 November 2019 at 8:14 pm

                There is a big difference between saying that and pretending technology is needed.

                • Rosemary McDonald …
                  21 November 2019 at 9:18 pm

                  Yeah. "Technology" What technology?

                  A crowbar to prise open the coffers?

                  • Sacha …
                    22 November 2019 at 9:02 am

                    This is the part from that interview I reacted to hearing:

                    In regard to recommendations in the Welfare Advisory Group's report, she said the government did not even have the technology to implement them.

                    "I know people on the outside say, 'just do something', but the reality is that it doesn't happen that quickly and sometimes it comes down to technology and a range of other things."

                    And I was not alone:

                    https://twitter.com/RMarchNZ/status/1197388544865488897

                    plus follow-up:

                    https://twitter.com/RMarchNZ/status/1197395540834521089

                    • Pat …
                      22 November 2019 at 9:33 am

                      I guessed that was the case however in terms of explaining the lack of action post report the Minister was quite clear why it couldnt happen as fast as demanded…and that explanation was reasonable…the funds have to be released via budget process (arguably possible with a mini budget)…imagine the outcry if it were not.

                      The test will be what occurs at the next budget

                    • weka []
                      22 November 2019 at 9:51 am

                      Sepuloni told the CPAG summit on Monday that the changes were a few years out, including ‘increasing income support’. I think what we will see next year in the budget are announcements designed to up Labour’s chances of re-election. It will be fascinating to see how they manage that dilemma and whether they go in Shearer or Turei’s direction. (I suspect we will see middle way fudging).

                    • Sacha …
                      22 November 2019 at 9:59 am

                      middle way fudging

                      'Work will set you free'

                    • Pat …
                      22 November 2019 at 10:52 am

                      @ weka

                      Very likely…its important to realise that as Minister she cant rule by decree and is at the mercy of cabinet, especially the finance minister who controls the purse strings…and we know hes a Cullen acolyte which is both a positive and a negative but definitely neoliberal.

                    • OnceWasTim …
                      22 November 2019 at 5:18 pm

                      "………..its important to realise that as Minister she cant rule by decree ……"

                      That's very true @ Pat. What Carmel and other Munsters can do however, is to call in the SSC and CEO's of various ministries, and make it known in no uncertain terms that they are not happy chappies and chappesses, and that they consider them to be under-performing (in PRIVATE of course.)

                      If Munsters are being unreasonable, the SSC will have the gender-neutral cajones (with evidence) that he/she backs his/her staff and appointments, and be able to justify how and why the Munster is being unreasonable..

                      If he/she (the SSC and its CEO) isn't,/can’t he/she will have the good grace to ekshully take ekshun going forwid, and not merely look at ways of shunting the problem sideways. A shambles in one Munstry because of a fuckwit (albeit one its Munster pretends to have "complete faith in"), is probably going to be just as fucking useless in another. Better to try and shunt them back out to the private sector (often from whence they came).

                      In a 3 year election-cycle, two years in is not really good enough for a P U B L I C Service to become attuned to the policies and procedures of a new junta of erected representatives.

                      Never good enough for them to be frugal with the truth, or even actively try to sabotage stuff they (personally) don't happen to agree with – no matter how noice and friendly they try to present it.

                      After all – it's what they get paid the big bucks for (in a global marketplace for competent CEO's and his/her underlings – going forward and in this space)

                      The biggest criticism I'd have of this CoL is the preparedness and tolerance of complete and utter bullshit and spin they take from their "officials" going forward, It borders on the masochistic.

                      From memory (failing as it is), I seem to remember Jacinda saying something about how she didn't realise how long things take to get done. I hope she, and her transformational and kind government are beginning to realise that she is not the problem. It lays somewhere in the process between her and her CoL government's promises and those mandated to carry it all out.

                      It ain't working, and nor will it ever work despite how ever much they consider some of their administrators to be nice blokes and blokesses (many of whom are a bit like used a car salesmen – the ability to look you in the eye, and bullshit through their bleached set of crockery in a pin-striped suit with matching shirt, fresh from Barkers)

            • mickysavage 1.1.1.1.1.2
              21 November 2019 at 8:25 pm

              This is why I am really tiring of NZ First. I'm hoping for a Labour Green Government next time. Then there will be no excuses.

              • Sacha …
                21 November 2019 at 8:30 pm

                It would be clearer who is doing the foot-dragging, for sure.

                • In Vino …
                  22 November 2019 at 12:12 am

                  Coming in late, I think she should have termed it 'Income Inadequacy'.

                  After all, I think that is the basic problem. To my mind, neither minimum wage nor living wage are high enough to dignify long hours of work..

              • OnceWasTim …
                22 November 2019 at 7:12 am

                +1

                I could have coped with having Winston for another term (just), except the 'blokes' have started feeding off each other. SJ is a dangerous bugger. When you come across a bloke in his mid-life crisis and with an ego that huge, you can usually see where it's headed.

  2. Sacha 2
    21 November 2019 at 8:12 pm

    For those with a spare 15 mins, enjoy the hapless Nuck Smith having his arse handed to him repeatedly in #nzqt today by Andrew Little:

  3. Sabine 3
    21 November 2019 at 9:45 pm

    anyone see this?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/117581382/oceania-dairy-claims-minimal-marine-effects-of-wastewater-pipeline?fbclid=IwAR0V_-wB7y-FtHmHxSfYr3gQCLDvlIZ_9XWKEgsA5BlFHjyDyOnrWmGy5zk

    "Planning for more sustainable future wastewater disposal is essential to ensure that any future growth in production capacity, and employment opportunities has as little impact on the environment as possible," Lodge said.

    "The option of being able to choose between and supplement Oceania's current on-land wastewater disposal with an ocean outfall is a more sustainable wastewater practice than disposing of waste only onto the land or into the ocean."

    Green clean right?

    • Drowsy M. Kram 3.1
      21 November 2019 at 9:59 pm

      "minimal marine effects" – sounds fishy.

    • Stuart Munro. 3.2
      21 November 2019 at 10:14 pm

      Utterly irresponsible.

      With an estimated 4% of world fisheries not overutilized, with local stock declines both recorded by our laughably worthless QMS, and predicted due to decreased oxygenation attendant upon global warming, with substantial but thus far not sufficiently researched effects of microplastics hanging in Damoclean fashion over the presumption that marine ecosystems are robust, now is not the time to presume that industrial wastes may be discharged as cheerfully into the sea as they have, until now, been discharged into rivers.

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