Daily review 23/10/2020

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  1. greywarshark 1
    23 October 2020 at 6:33 pm

    Good news I think?

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/429024/mpi-to-toughen-rules-governing-export-of-live-animals-by-ship
    All live shipments were banned after that event, pending the inquiry.
    The Ministry said there will now be extra requirements on exporters.

    Not banned though. Not decreasing gradually, and controls on stocking becoming harder. One could balance the other, and then stop the trade.

    and

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/429035/offshore-oil-field-supply-company-goes-into-liquidation

    Background on Taranaki oil field and how corporates don't want to accept responsibility for the harm that inevitably arises from extractions like this.

    Aug.20 https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/423182/taranaki-s-tui-oil-field-survey-request-shows-split-pipe

    May.20 https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/416939/oil-tanker-off-taranaki-poses-spill-risk-that-could-cost-taxpayers

    Apr.20 https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/413778/oil-firm-must-clean-up-before-leaving-taranaki-says-high-court

    Mar.20 https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/411463/iwi-furious-at-company-s-plan-to-leave-oil-production-equipment-on-taranaki-sea-floor

    • Stuart Munro 1.1
      23 October 2020 at 6:41 pm

      Seems a sensible direction – we want some livestock movement for breeding purposes and the like. But perhaps not 5000 and up bulk carriers. It will be interesting to see what kind of options are available, though whatever impelled the captain of the Gulf Livestock 1 to steam directly into a tropical storm needs to be addressed as well.

      • WeTheBleeple 1.1.1
        23 October 2020 at 7:33 pm

        In many cases we can just ship semen around the globe.

        Makes a lot more sense if you want our genetics in another countries herd’s to cross the two so they’re locally adapted and specialised.

        We can also export some genetic tech for markers they can identify for specific traits in their dams etc.

        No need for shiploads of stock, really.

        • Stuart Munro 1.1.1.1
          23 October 2020 at 7:55 pm

          we can just ship semen around the globe

          Though that may be true in some cases, I imagine it is not universally true. Shorter voyages, such as that between NZ and Australia, need not fatally stress stock – and some recipient countries may not be set up for artificial insemination on any scale.

          And even semen can present risks.

          There are two issues to me, the loss of the vessel, and the size and character of the mass transport. The loss suggests poor character on the part of the vessel owners. But were Strait Shipping for example, to move a hundred cows across to Oz over a couple of days in fair weather, I don't think there would be cause for outrage.

    • Patricia 2 1.2
      23 October 2020 at 6:44 pm

      I heard on the ZB news earlier tonight that 24,000 happy healthy animals were ready to be shipped overseas. I thought these shipments were a thing of the past until I recently saw the news about the sinking of the ship containing thousands of cows.

      • WeTheBleeple 1.2.1
        23 October 2020 at 7:38 pm

        Just thinking – maybe this is how we deal with a glut when overstocked farmers dump loads of cows on the market at once due to drought, lack of feed type issues. Works get clogged up.

        Only thoughts. No idea really.

  2. Patricia Bremner 2
    23 October 2020 at 6:56 pm

    I fervently hope the Covid Genie is not "out of the bottle" A scary fortnight to see if we have contained this frown Remember the jobs of others’ rely on us signing in with pen or app.

    • Muttonbird 2.1
      23 October 2020 at 7:14 pm

      I just cannot believe international ship crews have been wandering in without quarantining.

      • Stuart Munro 2.1.1
        23 October 2020 at 8:09 pm

        They are unseen, they don't bear scrutiny – like Taiwan's guest workers, or Singapore's.

        Little urges people to report labour issues on these vessels as if he wasn't perfectly well aware of them. As if I had not been writing to his colleagues about them at length for decades. If Labour had not been suborned by industry inducements and neoliberal prosperity fictions they'd have resolved the slave ship issue under Clark.

        • Pat 2.1.1.1
          23 October 2020 at 8:12 pm

          and not just the slave ships…all the other industries that survive on the exploitation of internationally mobile labour

          • Stuart Munro 2.1.1.1.1
            23 October 2020 at 8:35 pm

            Quite right.

            I'm not quite as well-informed about them though, so I couldn't advocate for them as well.

            • Pat 2.1.1.1.1.1
              23 October 2020 at 8:38 pm

              fair enough, but the same argument applies…its not as if they dont know about any of them, though they try to behave as if they dont.

    • Grafton Gully 2.2
      23 October 2020 at 8:10 pm

      It will never be contained. Wear a mask, use the covid ap, physically distance and WASH YOUR HANDS.

    • Treetop 2.3
      23 October 2020 at 8:36 pm

      The rate of infection in isolation is the worst it has been. There would be a reason for this, a high viral load or an highly infectious strain. I have been watching international trends on Covid and there is no good news.

      With Labour weekend travel I would not be surprised if a number of clusters form. I am a bit surprised that workers in isolation appear to not have passed Covid on in the community. I would like to know how many isolation/quarantine workers have been infected with Covid?

      • Gabby 2.3.1
        23 October 2020 at 11:17 pm

        Whoever got to bring in several hundred workers from countries riddled with covid must have been mightily persuasive.

        • Treetop 2.3.1.1
          24 October 2020 at 7:29 am

          A massive training programme is required (seasonal work and topping up the wage) as the cost to the country out weighs the benefit as Covid is imported at a high rate. The fisherman situation can be fixed by changing immigration criteria. Immigration and Covid is so closely tied to the workers we bring in.

          • Janet 2.3.1.1.1
            24 October 2020 at 8:16 pm

            I wonder if there will still be a market for all the produce that immigrant workers are to be brought in to catch, pick , prune, etc. I was told today that livestock produce is experiencing low demand from overseas now and the coolstores stores throughout NZ are near full of meat.I wonder how our other primary produce exports will fare over the next 12 months.

  3. greywarshark 3
    23 October 2020 at 8:32 pm

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/429044/physiotherapists-claimed-acc-fees-for-treating-each-other-and-family

    These people are thieves, we don't treat shop lefters as kindly as this.
    Why don't they have their certificates cancelled. If they want to be fit try apple and grape thinning and picking. But no you have been naughty, we must keep you under supervision. Actually I like the idea of controlled supervision for sex offenders and repeat violent offenders etc. That in a controlled, open prison would be good sort of supervision. For this group of offenders they are not of good standards.

  4. Stuart Munro 4
    23 October 2020 at 9:12 pm

    I wonder if there is any truth to the rumour that the surviving Gnats have become avid players of Among Us.

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