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Strange times at Ihumatao. A good proportion of Standard commenters agree with everyone's favourite leftie, David Seymour!
"Property rights" don't you know…
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/07/act-leader-david-seymour-labels-ihum-tao-protesters-a-nuisance.html
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/395318/ihumatao-protests-no-building-while-a-solution-is-sought-pm
Onya, Jacinda.
Here's why the PM shifted her stance: "Numbers at Ihumātao have swelled to about a thousand as many join the land protest, ahead of the weekend." Probably get double that by Sunday, eh?
"Ms Ardern said Labour MPs Peeni Henare and Willie Jackson will go down to the site and talk to protesters tomorrow." Hope they have something new & intelligent to say, since I gather they've already been there done that. Suggesting a solution would be good!
"Ms Davidson wouldn't say how the land should be returned but reiterated that she wanted the government to intervene." More nanny-statism from the Greens? Hope not. She's just got what she asked for – goddam politicians scared to offer solutions is not what I expect from this govt I'm trying to support.
"Protest leader Pania Newton has called for her uncle Te Warena Taua, kaumatua for the local iwi who opposes the action, to speak to her." Dunno why. Four years of this protest already due to one family being split, you'd think a conversation or two would have already happened, eh? If so, what the hell did it achieve??
There's no mystery to why the government is reluctant to get involved. It's great that they are looking to take the role of mediator.
The Greens are activist by nature no matter how much some people want them to stick to middle-of-the-road environmental issues.
Looks like there is a significant shift of power within that family. Four years of this protest is finally bearing fruit.
DF as marty mars tends to say we don't know all the internal politics so might be best to watch hopefully, better than arrive ata negative solution over something that Maori have been working at for a century or so.
True, ball's in their court – but the protest organiser has called the govt in. If the local Maori were able to reach consensus, the organiser would not have done so, right?
Notice that I also expressed my hope twice in the comment you responded to (2.1)! When a conservative like Peter Williams advocates govt purchase and return as a simple solution, why can't politicians? We pay them to do that job.
Not just within that family. Look for all sorts of power plays across Aotearoa as Maori boomers try and quash the rise of younger more media-savvy whanau/hapu/iwi representatives.
What for?
For running off with no notice to the country, to spend a long weekend on a paradise island with her father and leaving someone else to deal with it?
Meanwhile, the Nats just don't give a fuck and are all off to their wankfest in Christchurch.
They aren't the ones with a lazy 40 million who could sort it tomorrow morning.
lol yeah they just represent the lazy who have $40mil.
When your opposition is digging a hole, leave them to it.
And the National party have standing to participate in this how…?
Being MPs. Or are they too lazy to do their job and represent NZ citizens.
Remind me who the MPs for Te Tai Hauāuru and Māngere are again?
Given the speed at which she folds at any challenge, Ardern is relegated to Minister Origami.
Why dont you wait till we see the final outcome before you put the boot in?
De escalating the situation ,listening and waiting a bit might be a good idea.
Because it's the same with all the policy challenges she's faced so far.
The success of direct action within a democracy is not a failure.
Really. Please explain.
I'll eliminate CGT, it was not part of the coalition deal – so could not occur until after 2020. Running with the policy in 2020 would reduce the chances of forming a government without NZF and they would veto a CGT if the coalition was reformed after the election.
Having a strategy to retain power, be able to form a government majority with either Greens (those who want a CGT can vote for them and this as a future goal) or NZ First (if they survive without the CGT threat) is smart politics – especially if you believe that GW (and related environment), rebuilding (well funded) government capability and delivery of adequate support are the big issues.
It's a simple fact that (because of NZF) CGT was a 2023 issue at the earliest. Ardern has merely signalled that, if she seeks a third term, it would then be 2026.
Fletchers just need to move their operation down the road a bit.
Problem solved.
How was the government invested in the project going ahead – it was on the side of SOUL in 2016?
Is posing as on-side and then abandoning Maori is what you expect of Labour in government.
It was certainly not Labour party or …coalition policy or Green Party policy.
It was just a matter of whether Labour in government would intervene in the process – it was originally reluctant because the local iwi had cut a deal. But the scale of protest left them with little choice but to consult. If the local iwi boss wanted his niece in prison is his affair, but the PM would not have wanted Green MP's there with her.
Geez, Key folded at a whisper of a challenge. An American only had to fly in on his private jet and Key was giving him (and occassionally her) anything he (she) wanted.
Yes but right now it's a bunch of brown people demanding of the Prime Minister – you know, the one who literally cloaks herself in their culture – that she do something.
Credit where it’s due – politically smart to not even be in the country as this hits the fan. Couldn’t have planned it better. If it wasn’t hastily planned, I mean.
Leaked polling shows National below 40 percent under leadership of Simon Bridges
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/07/leaked-polling-shows-national-below-40-percent-under-leadership-of-simon-bridges.html
Er…🤣
That's some pretty devious weaselry from Tova O'Brien. She's engineered a gotcha over something from March last year. The story could equally be about National's internal polling showing it above 40% almost the entire time since it lost power.
Yeah, real weird. Almost fake news, eh? Viewers thinking actual news of a new poll is being reported, but the leaker obviously just wanted to prove the technical point that Bridges has been lying. Timing: Nat conference this weekend.
So the idea that politicians lie is meant to be news somehow?? Most people know that already. So perhaps it is news on the basis that proof of politicians lying doesn't often get served up in the media, and I guess Tova got her editor's support for the broadcast on that basis. Leaker's motive is to kneecap Simon pre-conference, obviously. Pointless unless someone is hatching a conference plot…
When there's no news to report on, the reporters have to make some.
What tosh, making out that 39.8% is not the same as 40.
If that's the best JLR can feed her on the eve of their conference then there won't be any trouble from that quarter over the weekend. Pffft.
Aww, isn't that sweet.
https://www.twitter.com/simonjbridges/status/1154646216187117568
That is sweet, but aren't we told that to use one's child for political purposes is a no-no?
Copying baby Neve with her security card at last year's UN conference.
She looks way too self-assured for an ‘emotional young staffer’.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/07/family-first-rebuked-for-non-fact-based-activity-over-cannabis-psychosis-claims.html
Need to cut off the off the end for the link to work.
I ♥ skeptics. Nice rebuttle of dodgy Family First conclusions.
Whoops. Thanks, A.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/07/family-first-rebuked-for-non-fact-based-activity-over-cannabis-psychosis-claims.html
Australian story on teachers – is this similar in NZ?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/04/revealed-shocking-number-of-teachers-getting-the-bash-from-violent-students.html
Thanks for that. Glad my kids are no longer in school…if this happens to the teachers then I dread to think of how the students are treated
This'll put the cat among the pro-Putin pigeons.