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Funnily enough, it really was about trust

Written By: - Date published: 11:47 pm, June 2nd, 2010 - 37 comments
Categories: gst, john key, privatisation, treaty settlements - Tags: ,

  • I am ruling out selling Kiwibank at any point in the future
  • Asset sales are on the table for a second term
  • We won’t be raising GST
  • We’re raising GST
  • Returning Urewera is ‘complex but doable’
  • Returning Urewera is not an option
  • My trust is so blind I have no idea what’s in it
  • Owning a vineyard is great fun

Anyone else seeing a pattern?

Isn’t this precisely what the Left said would happen (‘This one’s about trust’, ‘Key’s a smiling snake’, ‘slippery’)? Hmm.

John Key needs to come clean on his shareholdings and any conflicts of interest arising from them, and on his intentions for privatisation in a second term of government.

Oh, and by the way, yesterday Key promised GST “will not be going up further from 15 percent”. And this time he really, honestly means it. Probably.

37 comments on “Funnily enough, it really was about trust”

  1. logie97 1

    Couldn’t resist a comment here.
    The anti-spam is Turned…

    Add to your list Marty…

    Some pre-election interviews that went along the lines of…

    “Did Lord Ashcroft meet anyone in the National Party?”
    “He might have…”
    “Did Lord Ashcroft meet anyone in the National Party?”
    “Actually I think he did.”
    “Who was that Mr Key?”
    “Well…err.. me actually… He came to my place. Just a social visit…”

    and

    “How many shares did you have in Transrail Mr Key?”
    “Aww about 50,000.”
    “How many shares did you have in Transrail Mr Key?”
    “Aww 100,000 actually, yeah 100,000 I think…”

  2. bobo 2

    Man Key sure did out-smug himself today referring all questions about his trust to his lawyer. I’m thinking he might get caught out down the track with some emails leaked with him referring to assets during this so called blind trust period, and suffer a similar fate of Winnie. Better make sure Blingish isn’t peering over his shoulder when he checks his emails 🙂

  3. Jim Nald 3

    Friends, Kiwis and the rural party to be, lend me your ears;
    Nay, lend you his eyes to see through his blind trusts
    For John Key is an honourable man;
    And English
    So are they all; all honourable men
    Ambition should be made of sterner stuff:

    Yet John Key says he was ambitious;
    And John Key is an honourable man.

    Our hearts are in the coffin there with integrity
    And we must pause till it come back to us.

  4. the sprout 4

    those would have to be the deadest looking eyes i have ever seen in a human.
    they look lie the eyes of a shark.

  5. vto 5

    Lies, lies, lies. Trust is nowhere to be seen in this government. So very tired of politicians lies.

    Maybe it is time to crank up the VTO Party. Vote Them Out. Any member elected refuses to participate in parliament thereby effectively cancelling a seat. A few members and the number of seats start to dwindle. Use the system to stymie and unravel the system. And if the remaining members started to game the system further then the VTO Party would introduce random voting which would further unravel the system, particularly if it held a balance of power position. Pure protest party. Do to the politicians what they do to the people.

  6. Anne 6

    You forgot the cycleway Marty G. You know, the brain-storm job summit proposal that was going to break the back of rising unemployment. It was going to create at least 4000 jobs claimed Key. Tourism NZ estimate 400 jobs might come out of it.

  7. Big ups to the jiminator – he taught the ‘smiling snake’ a political lesson yesterday. Now let’s back it up with some decent follow through… please

  8. snoozer 8

    for the fifth time this year, Morning Report requested an interview with Key and he turned them down.

    Anderton took his place: http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/mnr/mnr-20100603-0735-PM_changes_his_tune_on_possible_sale_of_Kiwibank-048.mp3

    • freedom 8.1

      they should just continue with the interview, really push the big interviews all week then, when there is a no-show, just interview dead air , they will learn to show up

  9. Evidence-Based Practice 9

    In a healthy democracy the leaders should front up to media, and answer the difficult questions. Seems the PM and several of his ministers are very reluctant to do this any more. That is very worrying. He won’t even face the right-friendly Sean Plunket on Radio NZ.

  10. coolas 10

    John Key and popular culture collide.

    He made a fortune as a capitalist Vampire and treats us like brain dead Zombies.

    “We won’t sell Kiwibank – Ever.”

    He show’s his contempt for us every time he opens his lying mouth.

  11. BLiP 11

    Anything to get elected – anything to stay elected.

  12. kriswgtn 12

    Trust???
    What Trust
    My blind trust ?
    Trust me?
    Trust us?

    have another drink no balls

  13. randal 13

    pssssst…hey meester.
    yew wanna buy a bank?

  14. peter 14

    Perhaps Key is a symbolic of the changes in our society and what levels of ethics and honesty that we expect from our elected officials.

    Judging by his support levels, I sometimes wonder if the bulk of his supporters really care about such trifles as honesty and ethical behaviour…

  15. JonL 15

    Sort of reminds me of a Peter Cook and Dudley Moore sketch “Integrity! I like that in a man….and I’m willing to pay for it!…how much do you want?”

  16. JonL 16

    “Judging by his support levels, I sometimes wonder if the bulk of his supporters really care about such trifles as honesty and ethical behaviour ” Strange….the missus and I were talking about just this thing in the car this morning….I think, more and more often, it seems to be a “rather strange, quaint notion” – particularly among those under 50……

    • SteveR 16.1

      I think it’s also to do with background, though. We have a PM (and, it seems, a party) who believe it’s OK to run a government as though it were a company—basically (ideally whilst staying within the law, or at least what your lawyers can argue successfully for) do whatever it takes to win. Your justification for any actions is keeping a majority of your shareholders behind you. That’s all.

      In private such people might be extremely ethical people—honest, decent, kind,…etc. But they make a distinction (probably necessary to keep sane) between how you run your life and how you run your company.

      The problem we are seeing is that a government is not a company, and there is no distinction between life and the company. But I guess the calculation is: if your voters (shareholders) back you, do what you like.

      So, lying to get to the point you want to get to in business is no doubt fine, but that is not OK (is it?) in a government.

  17. gobsmacked 17

    In Parliament today:

    “Hon Annette King: Is it Government policy to sell Kiwibank eventually, as he said on 1 August 2008, before the election, or is the policy to never sell Kiwibank ever, as stated by John Key on at least nine occasions, including May 2007, 5, 6, and 7 August 2008, 21 and 22 October 2008, and 4 and 5 November 2008?

    Hon Bill English: The Prime Minister has strong views on these things, and I tend to agree with them.”

    Two comments:

    1) Yes, but apart from May 2007, 5, 6, and 7 August 2008, 21 and 22 October 2008, and 4 and 5 November 2008 … what have the Romans ever promised us?

    2) Bill English’s reply speaks volumes. That’s a very experienced politician saying (translated): “John, you’re on your own. You’ve dug yourself a hole, you can dig yourself out of it.”

    • SteveR 17.1

      And I noticed in the videos of Mr. Cunliffe’s questions Mr. English yesterday that when we could see Mr. Key next to English has was shuffling papers, looking away etc. I think that says the same “you’re on your own” back the other way, too.

    • uke 17.2

      Isn’t this when Lockwood is supposed to remind English he must answer the substance of the question or be in contempt?

  18. gobsmacked 18

    Here’s today’s challenge for students of Key-Speak.

    What on earth is he trying to say?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3773339/Kiwibank-sale-ruled-out-for-now

    It’s clear that National will not sell Kiwibank. Except they might, later. But they won’t. Because it’s been ruled out. For ever. For now. Maybe. Because they might campaign on selling Kiwibank. Although selling is not selling, and owning is not owning, except when it is.

    OK?

    • Lanthanide 18.1

      It makes absolutely no sense to me either. It seems that he’s repeating what he said in parliament, but somehow presenting it as if it is different to what he said in parliament?

      Perhaps the reporter just garbled it, I’m sure it’ll be on the 6pm news.

    • Pascal's bookie 18.2

      The most important part of understanding is reflection, which always contains a reversal.

      That what is, can never be as it appears,
      That which shall be, shall never be what we thought it may have been.

      The now is eternal. That which is, will always be, as now. That which will be, will always have been, as that now. Which will be new, but eternal.

      Time is an illusion. Lunchtime, as has been said, doubly so. I feel a little peckish. Fancy a little smackeral of something? Ooh look, a kiwi bank. nom nom nom.

    • Jim Nald 18.3

      I’m not selling my mother, ever.
      Well, I’m not selling my mother this lifetime.
      Erm, I’m not selling my mother this month.
      Oh ok, I’m not selling my mother at this moment.

      • Jim Nald 18.3.1

        And how about this one inspired by what is in this morning’s Dom Post …

        I’m not selling my mother .. while I call myself her son.

  19. kriswgtn 19

    I wouldnt count on it….ref to above post

    I watched jane clifton and co today and they seem to be on the buzz that Key can still do no wrong and that everything the Govt is doing is all ok by US the voters and everything that has been flung @ donkey no balls and his mates hasnt stuck

    Nearly every single one apart from espiner and who else FARRAR?? hahahah ,you are a disgrace to journalism and should go and learn some Jorno skills

    But then half are tax payer funded and work for Donkeys m8s so of course they wont rock the boat

    Must be so hard for Blinglish to be deputy hahhaha- you can tell hes dying to roll donkey

  20. jcuknz 20

    Really this thread is hilarious … why? …. changing the way tax is charged is wrong more GST less Income tax … seems AOK to me … particularly when I get a small tax cut to make the change in my favour.
    We knew before the election that asset sales are on the card for the second or third terms … we just have to make sure there isn’t a 2nd or 3rd term …. not that Labour currently are showing any promise of this.
    He used to own part of a vineyard before the election so he knows it is fun … his memory wasn’t wiped clean on becoming PM. He has a memory of past enjoyments … no great problem there.
    When one has numerous quantities of shares in various companies I guess the details are blurred, he didn’t say he didn’t ever have any shares.
    He didn’t want to lie about meeting the guy so he reluctantly admitted he had met him.
    Sorry but I wish you guys would come up with something of merit to forward the cause instead of this silly quibbling.

    • logie97 20.1

      @jcuknz
      can’t you see evidence of a man who might just find it hard to lie straight in bed at night?
      … and why would you seek legal advice to ensure that you were telling the truth about your “trust” set-up. This thread is about a character – and it is the multitude of events that are clouding that…

  21. tsmithfield 21

    So if some shares in Kiwi bank were sold to the Cullen Fund, would that qualify as selling Kiwi bank?

    • QoT 21.1

      Bugger me, tsmith, that was exactly my question too! It probably all depends on what your definition of “is” [or “selling”] is.

  22. Santi 22

    Key will lie all the way to the election. He cannot be trusted on any electoral promises.

  23. Gazza 23

    Dont worry no kiwibank sale no more GST rises Key’s mates have made a big financial profit over three years so they will probably vote them selves out of govt.
    It will take another couple off years to get back on our feet, but I think Labour have learnt their lesson no more nanny state and the Maori Party coup will fade away to one more party under 2%.
    2012 the Key blind trust will gain it’s sight, English will sell his Wgton house and move south and they will all have shares in future off shore oil and future mined minerals.

  24. Jum 24

    Word has it that Key never intended to stay past getting in a second time, then stepping down with his knighthood, his world speaking tour and his insider trading contacts, and the hounds of hell will then swoop. (Bit difficult seeing Gerry Brownlee swooping…)

    Whenever he says ‘not while I’m Prime Minister’ it’s probably true, but the shelf life is one day after the next election if he gets in. Let’s make sure he doesn’t just to be on the safe side.

    He also promised that no member of his government would sell off Kiwibank. Although if he steps down it will no longer be his government. He’s as slippery as a snake. But he’s still a liar.

    Gazza – what do you mean by ‘no more nanny state’? You want the patriarchal fascist state do you, or just a caring state, like we had between 2000 and 2008? I know what works when it comes to balancing out society and it probably isn’t your version.

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  • Government will support the people and economy of Southland
    The Government will support the Southland economy in the wake of multinational mining company Rio Tinto’s decision to follow through with its long signalled closure of the Tiwai Point aluminium smelter. “This day has unfortunately been on the cards for some time now, but nevertheless the final decision is a ...
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    4 days ago
  • New transformational tools for the Predator Free 2050 effort
    New tools being developed to help boost Aotearoa’s Predator Free 2050 effort were unveiled today by Minister of Conservation Eugenie Sage and Under Secretary for Regional Economic Development Fletcher Tabuteau. A new rat poison, a camera with predator recognition software to detect and report predators, a new predator lure and a ...
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    4 days ago
  • New Armoured vehicles for New Zealand Army
    The Coalition Government has approved the purchase of a fleet of Bushmaster vehicles to replace the New Zealand Army’s armoured Pinzgauers, Defence Minister Ron Mark has announced today. The new fleet of 43 Australian-designed and built Bushmaster NZ5.5 will provide better protection for personnel and improved carrying capacity. “The age ...
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    5 days ago
  • Community-led solutions to prevent family violence
    The Government’s three prevention frameworks to reduce family violence in Aotearoa were launched this week by Associate Minister for Social Development Poto Williams.   The frameworks were developed in partnership with communities around New Zealand, and build on the work the Government has already begun with its new family violence prevention ...
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  • Govt confirms investment in better radiology and surgical services for Hawke’s Bay
    The Government is pleased to confirm funding for improvements to radiology and surgical services at Hawke's Bay DHB, Health Minister Chris Hipkins says.     "The Minister of Finance the Hon Grant Robertson and former Health Minister Dr David Clark approved funding for Hawke's Bay DHB’s redevelopment of their radiology facilities ...
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  • Specialist alcohol and drug addiction services strengthened across New Zealand
    •    New funding for four beds at Napier’s Springhill Residential Addiction Centre •    A new managed withdrawal home and community service, and peer support before and after residential care at Tairāwhiti DHB  •    A co-ordinated network of withdrawal management services throughout the South Island •    Peer support in Rotorua and ...
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    5 days ago
  • Coastal Shipping Webinar
    Introduction, seafarers and POAL Good morning everyone, I am delighted to be online with you all today. Before I begin, I have to acknowledge that COVID-19 has disrupted the maritime sector on an unprecedented scale. The work of seafarers and the maritime industry is keeping many economies around the world ...
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    5 days ago
  • Support for resilient rail connection to the West Coast
    A $13 million investment from Government will create jobs and improve the resilience of the rail connection between Christchurch and the West Coast, Infrastructure Minister Shane Jones and Regional Economic Development Under-Secretary Fletcher Tabuteau say. The funding comes from the tagged contingency set aside in Budget 2020 for infrastructure projects ...
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    5 days ago
  • Major investment in safe drinking water
    The Government is investing $761 million to assist local government upgrade under-pressure water services across the country, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Local Government Minister Nanaia Mahuta announced today.  The announcement was made at the site of the water bore that was found to be the source of the fatal ...
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  • Supporting stranded seasonal workers to keep working with more flexible options
    Recognised Seasonal Employers and migrant seasonal workers stranded in New Zealand will be able to continue working and supporting themselves with more flexible hours and roles, says Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway. The time-limited visa changes are: Stranded RSE workers will be able to work part-time (a minimum of 15 hours ...
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    5 days ago
  • Relief for temporary migrants, employers and New Zealanders who need work
    The Government is making immediate short-term changes to visa settings to support temporary migrants already onshore in New Zealand and their employers, while also ensuring New Zealanders needing work are prioritised, Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says. We are: Extending temporary work visas due to expire by the end of 2020 ...
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    6 days ago
  • Freshwater commissioners and fast-track consenting convenor appointed
    Professor Peter Skelton CNZM has been appointed as Chief Freshwater Commissioner and Alternate Environment Court Judge Craig James Thompson as Deputy Chief Freshwater Commissioner for the newly established Freshwater Planning Process (FPP). Environment Minister David Parker today also announced the appointment of Chief Environment Court Judge Laurie Newhook as the ...
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    6 days ago
  • Appointment of Judge of the High Court
    Auckland Queen’s Counsel Neil Campbell has been appointed a Judge of the High Court, Attorney‑General David Parker announced today. Justice Campbell graduated with a BCom and LLB (Hons) from the University of Auckland in 1992. He spent two years with Bell Gully Buddle Weir in Auckland before travelling to the United ...
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    6 days ago
  • Feedback sought – Commercial Film and Video Production Facilities
    The Associate Minister for Greater Christchurch Regeneration, Poto Williams, is seeking feedback on a proposal to better enable the development and operation of commercial film and video facilities in Christchurch. The Proposal, developed by Regenerate Christchurch in response to a request from Christchurch City Council, asks that powers under section ...
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    6 days ago
  • Govt launches bold primary sector plan to boost economic recovery
    The Government has launched a bold plan to boost primary sector export earnings by $44 billion over the next decade, while protecting the environment and growing jobs. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern today released Fit for a Better World – Accelerating our Economic Potential, a 10-year roadmap to unlock greater value ...
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    6 days ago
  • Wellbeing of whanau at heart of new hub
    A new approach to prevent family harm that encourages greater collaboration across government and community groups is being celebrated at the opening of a new facility in Auckland. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern today opened the Multi-Disciplinary Family Harm Prevention Hub Te Taanga Manawa in Lambie Road in Manukau. The facility ...
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    6 days ago
  • New Report on Auckland Port Relocation
    The Government has released a major new report on the options for relocating the Port of Auckland’s freight operations while deferring any decision on the issue. “That decision needs to be informed by policy analysis that is still to be completed. As a result it will be up to a ...
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  • Dual place names for Te Pātaka-o-Rākaihautū / Banks Peninsula features
    The history of Rāpaki is being restored through the inclusion of te reo in thirteen official place names on Te Pātaka-o-Rākaihautū / Banks Peninsula and around Lyttelton Harbour/Whakaraupō, the Minister for Land Information, Eugenie Sage, announced today.   “I am pleased to approve the proposals from Te Hapū o Ngāti ...
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  • Government and Air New Zealand agree to manage incoming bookings
    Bookings for seats on Air New Zealand flights into New Zealand will be managed in the short term to ensure the Government is able to safely place New Zealanders arriving home into a managed isolation or quarantine facility, says Housing Minister Megan Woods.  “Last week Air Commodore Darryn Webb and I ...
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  • $80 million for sport recovery at all levels
    Grant Robertson has today announced the first major release of funding from the $265 million Sport Recovery Package announced at Budget 2020.  “Today we’re setting out how $80 million will be invested, with $54 million of that over the 2020/2021 financial year for organisations from community level through to elite ...
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  • Keeping ACC levies steady until 2022
    The Government is maintaining current levy rates for the next 2 years, as part of a set of changes to help ease the financial pressures of COVID-19 providing certainty for businesses and New Zealanders, ACC Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says. “New Zealanders and businesses are facing unprecedented financial pressures as a ...
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    1 week ago
  • Extended loan scheme keeps business afloat
    Small businesses are getting greater certainty about access to finance with an extension to the interest-free cashflow loan scheme to the end of the year. The Small Business Cashflow Loan Scheme has already been extended once, to 24 July. Revenue and Small Business Minister Stuart Nash says it will be ...
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    1 week ago
  • New investment creates over 2000 jobs to clean up waterways
    A package of 23 projects across the country will clean up waterways and deliver over 2000 jobs Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Environment Minister David Parker announced today. The $162 million dollar package will see 22 water clean-up projects put forward by local councils receiving $62 million and the Kaipara ...
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