Growing opposition to Immigration Bill

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1. T-rex 1

   14 July 2008 at 1:23 pm

   Thanks Steve.

   Guys, it’s really really important that, if you disagree with what this bill attempts to do, you sign the petition.

   If all we’ve got is a whole lot of hits on the website it won’t count for much.

   Cheers.
2. Draco TB 2

   14 July 2008 at 1:37 pm

   /signed
3. T-rex 3

   14 July 2008 at 1:43 pm

   onya 😉

   To use the international standard of such things, pioneered by Arlo Guthrie, our support now exceeds 6 organisations, well over 1/3rd of a movement!

   Just a few more to go…
4. illuminatedtiger 4

   14 July 2008 at 1:44 pm

   Certainly makes the Greens look like a better option.

   Come on Labour, you’re better than this!
5. Byron 5

   14 July 2008 at 1:50 pm

   Aside from the pop-patriotism at the start, that is a brilliant video, and hopefully will kick start a serious campaign against this bill.

   For more info John Edmundson has recently written an informative article on the bill.
6. Ari 6

   14 July 2008 at 2:22 pm

   Nice to see we’re getting organised now. I didn’t email John Key yet, as National has traditionally only minded an authoritarian state when it gets in the way of business interests. Worth trying, you think?

   The video is a pretty good way to quickly summarise the issue, I agree.

   Certainly makes the Greens look like a better option.

   Indeed, the Greens and the Maori Party are pretty much the only parties in Parliament with perfect human rights records.
7. Matthew Pilott 7

   14 July 2008 at 2:24 pm

   But.. but… This site is a Labour mouthpiece! I read that somewhere!

   Jeez, where are all the tories when you need ’em? Strangely reticent, it seems. Gobsmacked by a display of principle, one might suppose.
8. Rex Widerstrom 8

   14 July 2008 at 2:54 pm

   I have serious concerns about some aspects of NZ’s immigration policy as it stands at present. I think it’s open to abuse and is abused – by a small minority.

   But like every situation where a minority of the people are the problem – from terrorism to hoon behavour – the knee-jerk reaction of government (and it doesn’t matter who’s in power, it seems) is to pass a law stripping rights from the majority. I opposed the EFA for the same reason.

   I’ve signed the petition and I hope every right-thinking (no pun intended) NZer will do so also. There can never be a good enough reason to deny anyone the right to fairness and natural justice.

   A conspiracy theorist might say that governments are keen to have us embark on this particular slippery slope because they realise that at the bottom lies unbridled power.
9. T-rex 9

   14 July 2008 at 3:08 pm

   Probably there’s an element of that – I think a lot of it is simple arrogance though. They think it can be taken as given that they’ll never make a bad call, and don’t want to be accountable when they do.
10. Jon 10

    14 July 2008 at 4:15 pm

    The Select Committee is due to report back on the Immigration Bill soon. Don’t you think you should reserve judgment until you see what changes the Select Committee has or hasn’t made?
11. T-rex 11

    14 July 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Nope, because if no public sentiment of concern/opposition exists at the time it emerges from select committee there’s every possibility it’ll just be rushed through approval and become law before there’s a chance to do anything about it.

    Doing it this way means the politicians are aware of the sentiment in advance, and can vote on the bill in consideration of that.

    If the select committee removes everything objectionable, no biggy, parliament can pass it with clear concience. If it’s still a draconian police state transitional bill, then they won’t be able to plead ignorance of public sentiment.

    We’re juding it as it was drafted by people, in government, who thought that drafting it that way was a good idea. If they didn’t want it to be opposed, they shouldn’t have tried to trample all over our rights.

    It’s also worth noting that they’ve already requested and ‘considered’ submissions made at the stage of review of the existing legislation… and the bill as it stands is the result of that review.
12. T-rex 12

    16 July 2008 at 8:29 am

    If you don’t want this to happen here then sign the bloody petition!
13. T-rex 13

    16 July 2008 at 10:42 am

    This awesome comic has a punchline for every occasion!

    Sign the petition or I’ll arrest you and hold you on charges relating to classified information that you’re not allowed to know about.

    Think that sounds unfair? Well it’ll be legal under the new immigration bill, so you should probably go and sign in protest.

    OH SNAP!

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