Jesse Mulligan owned Bill English on national television

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1. Cinny 1

   27 June 2017 at 7:39 am

   Jesse telling it like it is and being proactive, because the outgoing government is not delivering for all NZer’s, thanks for posting Weka.

   Kudos to the Aunties for their work, compassion and bravery, they are an inspiration and a fine example for all to aspire to be.
2. Tautoko Mangō Mata 2

   27 June 2017 at 7:40 am

   Well said, Jesse. There are many people who live in their million-dollar suburbs, can provide the money to get their children into their first house and who only encounter poverty when they have to walk past homeless on their way to the theatre. These people have no idea of the difficulties encountered by others outside their siloed suburbs. I believe that most Kiwis have the capacity to care about poverty, and it is good to confront these people with the truth of the dire future for many NZers so that their compassion will kick in.
   • Red 2.1

     27 June 2017 at 8:54 am

     Yes they do they in most cases they came from not so well off backgrounds and have workef hard to get where they are now
     • mauī 2.1.1

       27 June 2017 at 9:34 am

       You mean the baby boomers? The generation that had one of the best standard of living in human history. Cheap housing, cheap gas, free tertiary ed, full well paid employment. Yeah they really had to work their way out of poverty … yeah right.
       • Red 2.1.1.1

         27 June 2017 at 12:34 pm

         Um I think that world changed in 1986,
     • Robert Guyton 2.1.2

       27 June 2017 at 9:37 am

       And now they can help others as they themselves were most likely helped. Share the love, Red. And as it’s money you love…
     • paul andersen 2.1.3

       27 June 2017 at 12:48 pm

       in most cases…. and you know this how??
       • Red 2.1.3.1

         27 June 2017 at 2:18 pm

         I know all grass hopper
3. Wayne 3

   27 June 2017 at 8:06 am

   A left wing journalist opposes National. Who would have guessed.
   • garibaldi 3.1

     27 June 2017 at 8:14 am

     Just go and play in Hosking’s sandpit Wayne. You’ve got a lot in common.
   • marty mars 3.2

     27 June 2017 at 8:27 am

     Vapid attack by gnat and not discussing issue raised – sad but true. You should be ashamed.
     • gsays 3.2.1

       27 June 2017 at 4:13 pm

       A bit like the folk delivering a petition to parliament raising awareness of the dire need and underfunding in mental health.
       They were written off as hard left.
       Despicable.
   • Reality 3.3

     27 June 2017 at 8:29 am

     Wayne, stop complaining about a presenter who has a moral compass and who had the courage to speak out.

     Guess you prefer that supercilious, arrogant, snide, self-satisfied, vain, irritating ……….. (could run out of adjectives for describing him) person on the other channel.

     Be proud that someone cared enough to speak out on behalf of those who are not so fortunate as yourself.
   • left_forward 3.4

     27 June 2017 at 8:49 am

     So when somebody shows awareness and compassion, you simply write them off with your left wing label. What are you saying then about anyone you would call right wing?
   • Philj 3.5

     27 June 2017 at 9:10 am

     Wayne. You are a right wing **,,,. labeler,,Just like me lol Jesse was making a valid criticism of the poor situation an increasing number of people find themselves in. You are an uncaring person. As someone in authority, you should know better. I suggest you join the National Party for moral support.
   • Bearded Git 3.6

     27 June 2017 at 10:26 am

     Jesse was wrong about some of the “good” things.

     Economic growth per capita is less than one per cent per annum and the so-called surplus would not exist if superannuation, education, the health service and public transport was being properly funded.
4. Dean Reynolods 4

   27 June 2017 at 8:13 am

   Meanwhile, back on ‘Seven Sharp’, Hoskings was gibbering about irrelevancies
   • Ant 4.1

     27 June 2017 at 12:21 pm

     Ah, Hosking and his favourite phrase “NZ punching above its weight.”

     Hosking perpetually punches above his weight, and it shows…..
5. Ad 5

   27 June 2017 at 8:22 am

   Sorry about the double standard, but a leftie journalist simply cannot afford to show emotion if they want to last in the game more than a month. Righties get away with it.

   Campbell on RNZ lets the emotions of other people speak – emotions themselves convey more than a thousand pages of policy ever will.

   If that reporter gets too much more politicized in the runup to the election, as a leftie he will be pulled off for studio reporters who appear more neutral. I know it’s not fair – that is the game.
   • BM 5.1

     27 June 2017 at 8:42 am

     Yep, he’ll be told to pull his head in or GTFO.
   • Wayne 5.2

     27 June 2017 at 9:01 am

     Nothing wrong with a left wing journalist expressing his/her views. It just that they will be pigeonholed for that. Something that commenters on this site say about Hosking all the time.

     Obviously I have formed a view about Jessie Mulligan (or Kim Hill or John Campbell for that matter). I know where they are coming from, so political criticism from them is a bit irrelevant.

     The journalists that have more effect on voters, especially voters who are willing to change their votes, are the journalists whose political views are not so transparent.

     Colin James for instance, though he is now so rarely seen in the media that he probably has little impact. I would put Paddy Gower in that bracket (but whether you a fan of his “shock” style is another matter). It is impossible to tell where his political allegiances lie, so criticism from him bites.
     • garibaldi 5.2.1

       27 June 2017 at 9:14 am

       Colin James ,yes, but he really is a Leftie.
       I would put Paddy Gower in a waste disposal unit.
       Quite frankly there are very very few journalists who manage to mask their political leanings.
       • tc 5.2.1.1

         27 June 2017 at 9:59 am

         That’s because they arent journalists who are trained to be professional, objective and seek the truth.

         Gower, garner, soper and wife, mikey, pauley etc are tabloid hacks at best not letting truth get in the way of their rants/spin/memes.
     • Gristle 5.2.2

       27 June 2017 at 9:24 am

       Obviously I have formed a view about Jessie Mulligan (or Kim Hill or John Campbell for that matter). I know where they are coming from, so political criticism from them is a bit irrelevant.

       Dismissing criticism as irrelevant because the journalist has a political philosophy different from yourself is an incredibly arrogant approach. The conclusion that they have nothing to offer to you or to the exploration of a situation shuts down politics to being a bunch of people shouting past each other
       • Wayne 5.2.2.1

         27 June 2017 at 9:57 am

         My comment really relates to situations when they are making what I would interpret as a partisan/ideological attack. Not their general journalistic work.

         Obviously journalists, irrespective of political leanings, can make astute political observations, which might be very critical of the party one supports. For instance I actually think Katie Bradford does that pretty well. Katie Bradford does her work in a very professional way, without any apparent political bias. I tend to think of her as left, but that is mostly about her mother, so my view of her politics might be completely wrong.
         • marty mars 5.2.2.1.1

           27 June 2017 at 10:27 am

           Might be completely wrong? Please throw some more crumbs sir we still hungry.

           What is your opinion on all the right winger gnat journalists exposing bill english as a liar. Are they off your Xmas card list or did they do their job?
     • Anne 5.2.3

       27 June 2017 at 10:00 am

       I would put Paddy Gower in that bracket.. It is impossible to tell where his political allegiances lie…

       Oh dear, there are none so blind…..
   • Philj 5.3

     27 June 2017 at 9:16 am

     Sorry Ad,
     Speaking out about homelessness does not a left winger make. If one shows compassion and respect for fellow humans and all life on earth does not a left winger make.
6. patricia bremner 6

   27 June 2017 at 8:40 am

   Ad, you just joined the “don’t talk truth to power” or we will take….
   your job
   your money
   your good name.
   And if all else fails we will lie and spin.
   “I know it’s not fair, but that is how it is” Currently!!!
   But “Blowing in the wind” comes hope for change.
   • s y d 6.1

     27 June 2017 at 8:55 am

     Nah, Ad just pointed out that you have to present things in a way that lets other voices be heard.
     You can’t let anger cloud clear thinking or you’ll simply be sidelined.
     • Robert Guyton 6.1.1

       27 June 2017 at 9:57 am

       Show some guts, eh!
     • Ad 6.1.2

       27 June 2017 at 10:38 am

       Exactly.
       Softly softly catchy monkey.
7. Carolyn_nth 7

   27 June 2017 at 9:17 am

   “… a slogan for Domino’s pizza”
   pfffft…. 🙂
8. Cemetery Jones 8

   27 June 2017 at 10:06 am

   Ok, I get it, Jesse loves the Greens and wishes they could govern without Labour. Can’t wait to see his face when the Labour-NZ First government signs that support agreement with the Greens to offer them a few ministers outside cabinet.
   • DoublePlusGood 8.1

     27 June 2017 at 10:20 am

     How on earth do you get to that from the video above?
     • Cemetery Jones 8.1.1

       27 June 2017 at 10:32 am

       I got it from watching the Project quite often, where he’s constantly mortally offended by Labour’s immigration stance while panting like a poodle getting its leg over at the Greens.
     • You_Fool 8.1.2

       27 June 2017 at 10:44 am

       Wishful thinking
9. AB 9

   27 June 2017 at 12:37 pm

   I thought he was far too kind to the Nats – suggesting their spin on economic growth and low unemployment might have some truth to it. And criticising Labour over immigration – mainly because he can’t join the dots and see how immigration is contributing to the epidemic of low wages and the housing crisis which he rightly deplores. Also he’s clearly terrified of any insinuation of a racist taint to his opinions.

   So a pretty incoherent effort and not worth the career risk I would have thought. I like the guy, but it’s not enough to point at a few thousand people at the extreme end of deprivation and imply that’s all we’ve got to worry about.
   • Red 9.1

     27 June 2017 at 1:18 pm

     A lot less to worry about than most of the world, our problems are trivial to 99.999pc of humanity, count your blessing
     • McFlock 9.1.1

       27 June 2017 at 1:37 pm

       That means our problems are more than trivial to 75,000 people. Or a little over half the number of unemployed in NZ. Sounds like a bit of an undercount.
     • left_forward 9.1.2

       27 June 2017 at 3:41 pm

       Sheer luxury eh Red – “we used to live in a cardboard bag in middle of t’road… etc”.

       If you were living on the road, there wouldn’t be many blessings to count, would there Red?
10. adam 10

    27 June 2017 at 1:25 pm

    Love the astroturfing by the usual suspects on this post. Blame the journalist, national don’t make mistakes, and my favorite – the concern trolling.

    Sheesh are we really there when even a left wing blog can’t discuss the crap this government is postulating? Where a journalist points out that this government is not for everyone, and he gets labeled a ideological hack? What a joke, what a sad state of affairs.

    How many have killed themselves?

    How many living out in the streets?

    How many living in hotels?

    Who can afford a house?

    Nope, let’s blame the journalist, and concern troll – way bloody easier than actually having to deal with anything.
    • marty mars 10.1

      27 June 2017 at 1:54 pm

      The rwnjs commenting on this post don’t care about those things Adam. They’re the type of people that move homeless people away from shelters and doorways to pretend there aren’t any homeless people – that’s their level.
11. Marcus Morris 11

    28 June 2017 at 5:16 pm

    A question for the editor. Can it made possible to register approval or disapproval for a comment with a tick, as is the case on so many other threads. Just a thought.
    • lprent 11.1

      28 June 2017 at 6:24 pm

      Tried it a long time ago. It pushed excessive load on the database and processing. To be useful it has to remember who ticked what do you can’t have a hundred presses on the same comment. That costs.. It also wound up with what looked to me like group bullying behaviours. So I canned it.

      I have several different implementations sitting around that I suspect will alleviate both issues. But no time to check them.
      • weka 11.1.1

        28 June 2017 at 6:48 pm

        Did you have a down tick as well as an up tick? Just curious.
        • lprent 11.1.1.1

          29 June 2017 at 9:25 am

          Yes. The plugin I used only allowed a down tick. Plus the ticks were being done by a very small number of people. Even then we’d get thousands of people through in a day and a hundred people commenting, but the ticking was voluminous from less then 20.

          In short it acted just like the one at the sewer in the Kiwiblog comments section.
12. sweetie9 12

    3 July 2017 at 7:51 pm

    Fuck you are a pack of moaning cunts

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