Nats’ sense of entitlement behind credit card abuse

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1. tc 1

   24 February 2010 at 7:19 am

   I heard the snivelling Heatley and oh the arrogance and righteousness behind such comments as ‘doing a great job’ and the people of whangarei are behind me etc etc and did anyone ask for details on the great job he’s doing ?

   More of JK’s A team caught red-handed and has anyone interviewed the Brownlee yet? No let me guess he’ll adopt the I’m not talking position like he does in parliament when asked a difficult question.

   A 100% relentless focus on lining ours and our mates pockets……choose a brighter future eh.
2. gitmo 2

   24 February 2010 at 7:32 am

   Politicians = troughing

   http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3366311/Staff-run-up-bills-for-ministers
3. logie97 3

   24 February 2010 at 7:34 am

   Knew it wouldn’t take long for the MSM (Dom Post) to re-litigate past questions. Shock horror Labour were apparently worse – “However, the Labour figure included ministers outside the Cabinet, which National’s figures do not.”
   • The Voice of Reason 3.1

     24 February 2010 at 7:51 am

     Although the DomPost follow up article is pretty vague about what Labour ministers might have done wrong. I don’t think ‘a former Beehive staff member’ is a particularly authorative source. Why can’t they be named if they don’t work there any more? And there is no specific allegation at all, where in the case of the Nats. it’s all very plain to see.

     Can’t wait to hear what Rodney “Perktaker” Hide has to say about it all.
   • Akldnut 3.2

     24 February 2010 at 8:22 am

     Labour ministers racked up $74,000 in credit card spending, compared with about $22,000 by National ministers

     Labour 9 years @ $8,200 per annum – National 15 months @ $17.599 per annum
     • Marty G 3.2.1

       24 February 2010 at 8:35 am

       Let’s be clear. There is no problem with using the ministerial credit card for legitimate expenses. Let’s not get into a pissing contest over who spent the least because it’s not the spending per se that’s the problem and there are other ways ministers can claim expenses.

       The problem here is that Heatley broke the rules and has basically been allowed to get away with it.
       • Herodotus 3.2.1.1

         24 February 2010 at 8:58 am

         I am sure that many previous Min have mistakenly committed the same offense. So what will ahppen, we will find that it is the case there have been other previous examples. Sure there are those who should keep an eye out. BUT don’t overplay this as there are far more urgent issues thast we need to deal with, crime, poverty what ever direction NZ is going.
         It maybe more fun to kick issues like this or $31 of shares and there are times some light relief is required but if those managing this site are not manging the contributors, this site could become irrelevant and a joke as the side issues take over from what is important and solid debate. If magor organisations can lose focus why not here?
         • Marty G 3.2.1.1.1

           24 February 2010 at 9:07 am

           No-one ‘manages’ us, apart from ourselves on a collective, informal basis.

           I can’t write about crime, poverty, unemployment every day without the topics going stale but you know I cover these issues a lot.
           • Herodotus 3.2.1.1.1.1

             24 February 2010 at 2:47 pm

             I accept that issues like this are semi topical, you I hope can appreciate how this could disintergrate into a they did/we did All is Ok type of slinging match. All that will do is turn passive viewers off and when there is something it will be brushed asside as if it was the boy who cried wolf.
             The Bill housing issue was ione I think was over played and lost anything (If there was anything sinister just to him), unless there was a follow up, which to my knowledge there was not, All that happened was the impression of Trevor just playing politics and the sterotype personna portrayed to politicians was just reinforced.
             The issues you have raised are the important ones, but for me no party has any solutions. To be synicial I think Lab (And Nats before) just store these issues up when in opposition to undermine the current govt. Then nothing just a void of solutions. BUT hey it got “US” back into power strategy. Perhaps this great year I was having is slowly being infiltrated by cynicism from all both left & right !!
4. mickysavage 4

   24 February 2010 at 8:10 am

   So Heatley is an expert in Dairy Farm effluent management.

   Makes him perfect for the role of managing the flow of information from Cabinet.
   • Cnr Joe 4.1

     24 February 2010 at 9:19 am

     kapow
     savaged by the mickey
   • HitchensFan 4.2

     24 February 2010 at 12:00 pm

     Brilliant Mickey 🙂
5. Sam 5

   24 February 2010 at 8:17 am

   How can anyone take these people seriously? We all have to tighten our belts, there’s more than 160,000 people out of work, yet they’re chucking the crayfish on the tax payer tonight boys! Yee-haw! Let’s get on it!
6. Danyl Mclauchlan 6

   24 February 2010 at 8:19 am

   Where was the Prime Minister? If there had been competent leadership and oversight, these ‘mistakes’ wouldn’t have happened or would have been spotted.

   I’d keep away from that line of attack Marty. Labour’s Ministerial credit cards are getting released later this week.
   • Marty G 6.1

     24 February 2010 at 8:32 am

     No, Danyl. If there’s corruption there I’ll be criticising it too. Stick to the funnies, eh?
     • Smokie 6.1.1

       24 February 2010 at 9:19 am

       Please Marty. Don’t encourage him… After reading the Dim Post, I hope he stays well away from the funnies.
7. big bruv 7

   24 February 2010 at 8:22 am

   It never ceases to amaze me that those on opposite sides of the political battle ground can be so hypocritical.

   Had these been Labour ministers caught stealing money from the tax payer the Standard would not have said a word, indeed, there would have been a spirited defence offered, or, at the very least this level of troughing would have been laughed off by the more rabid contributors here.

   Heatley should be sacked, those on the right should be into him like they would have been into any Labour MP.

   I would like to think that in years to come the Standard will be just as hard (and demand resignations) from any Labour MP who steals from the tax payer, however, I suspect we will see the ugly hypocritical side of politics coming through again.
   • Daveski 7.1

     24 February 2010 at 11:21 am

     Agreed BB.

     There’s almost a parallel universe in operation here and at KB where whatever your team does is justifiable and whatever the other team does is wrong regardless of the context.
   • HitchensFan 7.2

     24 February 2010 at 12:02 pm

     Big Bruv.

     I’m waiting for Farrar’s condemnation? Waiting……tapping fingers…….waiting…..

     [lprent: DPF did do a post at about 5:43am (from memory) yesterday, and then dumped a pile of other posts on top of it.

     Of course it is a marked contrast to the 20 or posts he would have done if it’d been ministers in the previous government. ]
8. Santi 8

   24 February 2010 at 8:33 am

   We all know very well the lazy John Key will sack anyone. It is too much work for this ineffcient PM.
   • big bruv 8.1

     24 February 2010 at 9:39 am

     What a stupid and uneducated comment.

     Nobody dislikes Helen Clark more than me (actually the correct word might be “hates”) but even I would not say she was inefficient or lazy.

     Key might not be your cup of tea (nor is he mine) but only a complete fool would say he was lazy or inefficient.
     • Santi 8.1.1

       24 February 2010 at 9:56 am

       Read again what I wrote. I didn’t say Key has been lazy all his life, but as PM he is VERY lazy. His ministers run wild, get away with murder, show absolute incompetence and all Key does is to give us silly excuses.

       Laziness and inefficiency as a politician are becoming Key’ trademark.
       • big bruv 8.1.1.1

         24 February 2010 at 10:02 am

         Santi

         Does the quote “he is only guilty of trying to help people” ring any bells with you?

         You are on dangerous ground when you accuse Key of letting his ministers run wild, the previous PM had at least two ministers who she NEVER pulled up for their excesses and one who was proven to be corrupt.

         Key should let his ministers have their own space, Clark’s micro management style is what got this country into a mess in the first place, where Key is failing to do his job is to hold people like Heatley to account.
         • r0b 8.1.1.1.1

           24 February 2010 at 11:58 am

           Does the quote “he is only guilty of trying to help people’ ring any bells with you?

           It certainly shouldn’t. No one ever said it. That’s a misquote spread by Farrar and other nutjob bloggers.
       • Draco T Bastard 8.1.1.2

         24 February 2010 at 1:12 pm

         Well, I suppose he does have an excuse. If he started firing them he would have to maintain those standards and fire the lot of them which would kinda leave him without a government.
9. the sprout 9

   24 February 2010 at 9:11 am

   So how many from this Government does that make caught stealing from the taxpayer?

   English
   Lee
   Singh
   Hide
   Douglas
   Brownlee
   Heatley

   Have I forgotten anyone?
   What a corrupt and hypocrtical Government this is.
   • big bruv 9.1

     24 February 2010 at 10:03 am

     Hmmm…

     I cannot remember the same faux outrage from sprout when Clark and Labour stole money from the tax payer.
     • Bright Red 9.1.1

       24 February 2010 at 10:11 am

       I remember you at the forefront of it, big bruv.
       • the sprout 9.1.1.1

         24 February 2010 at 12:35 pm

         so even if that were true, bb, which it isn’t – the best you can say is this government is as bad as the last?
         pathetic.
10. Cnr Joe 10

    24 February 2010 at 9:23 am

    SuperpopularJohn Key is quite relaxed about stealing, lying, misleading.
    What sort of country are we going to become under this regime?
11. tc 11

    24 February 2010 at 10:09 am

    here here sprout and to that you can add the MP’s who defied the PM’s edict on no spouses to travel at the taxpayers expense……Crusher, Douglas …again, etc

    Agree about both sides of the polly fence needing equal scrutiny and lets all remember that JK campaigned on less red tape greater accountabilty and more transparency……Cue a few Tui billboards.

    It’s obvious JK rules with all the authority of a marshmellow.

    By the way David Beatson nailed blinglish on Stratos last night…….so easy it was embarrassing and in the interest of balance Goff talks too much when short sharp responses are required.
    • Daveski 11.1

      24 February 2010 at 11:27 am

      Agreed. Key talked big but needs to act on this. National’s front line appears to be pretty weak to be fair (although Labour’s line up is still largely last centuries).

      The interesting aspect is that the longer term battles will be the emerging talent and who’s got the best new blood. Surely, both sides can do better than what they’ve got on show now.
    • pollywog 11.2

      24 February 2010 at 12:26 pm

      “Goff talks too much when short sharp responses are required.”

      and thats what I’m saying. He needs a media lesson in ebonics and hiphop 101.

      a few choice catchphrases here, a punchline there, some withering comebacks, a photo op with the homies and maybe the youth will warm to him enough that they trust he is speaking for them cos at the mo, no one is.
12. randal 12

    24 February 2010 at 1:34 pm

    henceforth he shall be known to all as hamburger heatley.
    • BLiP 12.1

      24 February 2010 at 2:52 pm

      What about: Filching Phil Heatley?
      • gitmo 12.1.1

        24 February 2010 at 7:48 pm

        The i and e are abnormally close on your keyboard
      • The Voice of Reason 12.1.2

        24 February 2010 at 8:12 pm

        Cheatley?
13. rod 13

    24 February 2010 at 5:21 pm

    What about Phil your boots Heatley
14. Anne 14

    24 February 2010 at 7:40 pm

    hamburger Heatley it is. 🙂
15. Anne 15

    25 February 2010 at 11:28 am

    hamburger Heatley it was. 🙁

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