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Nats indignant that Twyford is not fixing their housing crisis quickly enough

Written By: - Date published: 7:24 am, June 14th, 2018 - 95 comments
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From the you have to be freaking joking file … National is criticizing Labour for not solving the last National Government created housing crisis quickly enough.

From Jayne Patterson at Radio New Zealand:

There were fractious exchanges between Housing Minister Phil Twyford and his National Party counterpart Judith Collins at select committee and during parliamentary question time today.

The two flash points were a large waiting list for social housing and the government’s flagship Kiwibuild.

Since the end of last year the waiting list for social housing has gone up from about 6000 to just over 8000. When questioned about that, Mr Twyford said that was the result of a rental crisis in the housing market, not new government policy.

Mr Twyford said tenancy reviews, under which people could lose their state house, had been temporarily suspended, but that’s not what has driven the larger waiting list.

Ms Collins wanted to know what he was going to do about it.

“You’ve turned up here with the worst waiting list ever – it’s come up under your watch, not down or even stabilised.”

There were “no excuses”, she said, if that continued to rise.

This is paint by numbers politics where National just says stuff because it may be popular and refuses to acknowledge that changes made to something as big and complex as our housing market do not have immediate effect.   It will take years to build enough houses to start and make a difference and address what is a significant shortfall.

And it is a bit rich for them to try and suggest that it is Labour’s fault.  For nine long years National it was hard enough to get National to admit there was a problem, let alone a crisis.  Until recently when during an Espiner interview Bridges finally started to utter those words.

Guyon Espiner: “It is interesting you call it a housing crisis now.  Man you avoided that term for a long time.”

SB: “I’m leader of the opposition now, I get to decide on how we phrase things …”

GE: “So it’s a crisis when you are no longer responsible for it?”

As a minimum you would expect Collins to be embarrassed.  If she was human you would expect an apology on behalf of the National Party for failing abysmally to provide that most basic of needs a home to live in.

Expect this tactic to continue however as National tries to create a smell around Labour’s attempt to fix the problem.

95 comments on “Nats indignant that Twyford is not fixing their housing crisis quickly enough ”

  1. cleangreen 1

    it makes me angry when I see these creeps in National that now act like choir boys and girls after they wrecked our country now attacking labour coalition for slow repair of all the problems they caused us all.

    Labour coalitiion badly need a media patform now to get their story of how they are working to fix national’s destruction, as the present media especially radio NZ is just elevationg the national; Party views and gives them full air time on their media while they starve labour from equal air time.

    Radio NZ has been taken over by the national Party right under the noses of the new givernment and must be taken back so the goverbnment and the people have a real voice again.

    • Unicus 1.1

      Another reeking puke bomb the felonious Nats left behind was their carefully crafted propaganda network – once laughably known as ” the free media”

      With Stephen Joyce at the controls nationals wrecking ball went to work early in its tenure smashing anyone who wasn’t overtly Tory out of the media scene as a left wing sympathiser .

      Joyce of course along with a gaggle of other national party parliamentary cadava’s had a pecuniary interest in media-works and a history in corporate media. So he was certainly the man for the job .

      No need to worry about TV 3 or the print monopolies of Fairfax and or (then ) IPN were and remain firmly ” on side ” media-works just did what it was subsidised to do – sell national and destroy labour.

      That just left radio NZ and channels one and seven to be bought into line .Well that wasn’t to hard -sack the chair of RNZ stack the board of TV one and take channel seven off air.

      You’re quite right the government does need a media platform which serves the interests of democracy Not a ghastly glove puppet for a corrupt and un democratic cabal of money hungry power grubbers

      So who can front this self satisfied pack of hyenas – at a time when the government must be tough clever and urgent .

      Sorry Clair no need to apply

    • Unicus 1.2

      Another reeking puke bomb the felonious Nats left behind was their carefully crafted propaganda network – once laughably known as ” the free media”

      With Stephen Joyce at the controls nationals wrecking ball went to work early in its tenure smashing anyone who wasn’t overtly Tory out of the media scene as a left wing sympathiser .

      Joyce of course along with a gaggle of other national party parliamentary cadava’s had a pecuniary interest in media-works and a history in corporate media. So he was certainly the man for the job .

      No need to worry about TV 3 or the print monopolies of Fairfax and or (then ) IPN they were and remain firmly ” on side ” media-works just did what it was subsidised to do – sell national and destroy labour.

      That just left radio NZ and channels one and seven to be bought into line .Well that wasn’t to hard sack the chair of RNZ stack the board of TV one and take channel seven off air.

      You’re quite right the government does need a media platform which serves the interests of democracy Not to function as a ghastly glove puppet for a corrupt and un democratic cabal of money hungry power grubbers

      So who can front this self satisfied pack of hyenas – at a time when c the government must be tough clever and urgent .

      Sorry Clair no need to apply

    • Sarah 1.3

      I have noticed this as well and am right disappointed that RNZ which is supposed to be impartial has the r/w disease now. They’re news vendors now just like the rest.
      I’ve no problems with holding the govt to account (they’ve done a few things lately which I didn’t expect or like) but to give the National Party MP’s so much airtime, and to couch their words in Natzspeak is happening far too often. I can’t wait for the chairman to leave and hopeful his tame CEO follows.

      • alwyn 1.3.1

        “I can’t wait for the chairman to leave “.
        My God. What did Jim Mather do to upset you after only a matter of weeks in the job? Aren’t you going to at least give him a chance to do something? I hope it isn’t because he is a man or a Maori that makes him unsuitable in your eyes.
        After all, it is hard to see that you can actually know anything else about him.

    • NZJester 1.4

      Yep, Notional sent the housing market rolling down the hill towards the rocks and slowly dismantled the breaks while in the driving seat. Now Labour is in the driving seat and attempting to fix the breaks they want them to bring it to a stop fast. Something they know is impossible and they are making out the extra drop while Labour was at the controls was all Labours fault when the continued plunge is all thanks to Nationals policies. You know under a National Government the numbers would likely be closer to 10,000.

  2. Pat 2

    Did we really expect National to roll over a admit their shortcomings?….this is the party that has always harboured the belief it has the divine right to rule NZ.

    Normal programming will be resumed….asap.

    • Draco T Bastard 2.1

      Did we really expect National to roll over a admit their shortcomings?

      No, we didn’t expect National to take personal responsibility for their actions. We expect them to deny their responsibility for the damage that they cause at all times. That, I suspect, is why this post exists.

      this is the party that has always harboured the belief it has the divine right to rule NZ.

      This is true – they’re also the party that demands that every one take personal responsibility for their actions but will always come up with excuses as to why it wasn’t their fault when it obviously was.

      • grafter 2.1.1

        IRC house prices increased more under Clark’s govt than National. Under Nats more houses were being built than the incomptent Twyford. No indication of much fall in the immigration numbers either. HNZ waiting list has increased considerably in the last 6 months. Stands to reason that you are full of shit on this. Research on TS shows it’s not a new thing. Are you a sociology student perhaps?

        • Hanswurst 2.1.1.1

          So you have enough time to “research” what has been written on The Standard, but not enough to research or back up figures that you may or may not recall correctly? Are you trolling from your parents’computer, perhaps?

        • NZJester 2.1.1.2

          The national party politicians and you suit the Grafter name

          Graft
          noun
          1. the acquisition of money, gain, or advantage by dishonest, unfair, or illegal means, especially through the abuse of one’s position or influence in politics, business, etc.

  3. Puckish Rogue 3

    I see no problems with this approach, Labour and Twyford trumpeted what they would to fix. They got in, in no small part, due to a promise of 100 000 over ten years including 16 000 over three years so yes its Nationals role to hold the government to account

    • solkta 3.1

      National should take their concerns to Woolworths, it is obviously their crappy magic wands that have caused the problem.

    • mickysavage 3.2

      But expecting them to appear immediately is so ridiculous.

      And you can guarantee that if Labour and Twyford deliver 50,000 houses over the next ten years National will claim it is a failure.

      And I would take National more seriously if they actually acknowledged that they created this crisis.

      • Puckish Rogue 3.2.1

        “But expecting them to appear immediately is so ridiculous.”

        Agreed, but we’re now six months in and how many houses have been built?

        None

        How might be built by the end of the year?

        18 – 30

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/103458716/first-18-kiwibuild-houses-under-construction-in-south-auckland
        https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/356162/kiwibuild-30-new-homes-by-end-of-the-year

        But its ok because Twyford has a new plan:

        https://www.interest.co.nz/property/93642/some-80-kiwibuild-houses-planned-completion-2019-financial-year-will-be-constructed

        ‘Some 80% of the ‘Kiwibuild’ houses planned for completion in the 2019 financial year will be constructed by private developers underwritten by the taxpayer’

        ‘In effect it’s an underwriting scheme – with the taxpayer to provide the underwriting.’

      • Baba Yaga 3.2.2

        Except they didn’t. Auckland Council, and it’s stupid rules, created the housing shortages, and rising housing unaffordability was an issue under the last labour government.

        • WILD KATIPO 3.2.2.1

          And so Nationals answer was to open the floodgates on immigration to provide masses of cheap labour , – WITHOUT providing even the basic necessities like a roof over your head.

          Dumber than dumb but very exploitative.

          • Baba Yaga 3.2.2.1.1

            It’s not National’s fault kiwi’s stopped exiting the country because they liked the job National was doing.

            • WILD KATIPO 3.2.2.1.1.1

              No , but it was Nationals fault during the 1990’s and in particular Ruth Richardson’s Employment Contracts Act 1991 that meant that over 650,000 former New Zealanders now call Australia home.

              And they will never come back to this shitty low wage neo liberal economy.

              650,000 people of prime working age group from a country with a population of about 3.5 million at the time . Talk about the Irish Diaspora in the late 20th century transported to New Zealand , mate !.

              Remember the mantra about the ‘ brain drain’?

              That’s what all that was about.

              And as for your B.S about people not leaving for Australia ” because they liked the job National was doing” , – THAT was because at that time the mining industry was taking a hit in Australia because of the downturn in trade with China.

              Get your facts right.

              But that didn’t stop National importing cheap labour to further put downwards pressure on wages in this country , did it? Year after year of irresponsible immigration policy that put enormous pressure on our infrastructure – particularly Auckland.

              • babayaga

                Meanwhile, back in the 21st century…

                NZ’ers were leaving the country in droves under the last Labour government. Key’s government reversed that. Mind you, I suspect this Labour government will not have too long to worry. With growth dropping like a stone, business confidence in freefall and ministers berating business leaders, the net migration will once again turn negative.

                • Stuart Munro

                  Rubbish – Key didn’t make anything better here – it was Oz following the same fucking stupid economic cult that wrecked kiwi aspirations there that brought a lot of us home.

                  If immigration flows go negative long enough to let the several hundred thousand unskilled workers the Gnats let in to suppress wages work their way through the system – twenty years or more – that would be good. Unhappily Labour are wedded to neo-liberalism and fucking over our own people is the first tool in their box.

                  • Baba Yaga

                    Nah, Key’s government made NZ a far better place to live. Most people recognise that, expect for a small miserable rump.

                    • Stuart Munro

                      It made it a better place to hide ill-gotten funds. It made it better for foreign speculators and rogue employers and fake language institutes and immigration scammers.

                      And ignorant backward lowlife trolls like you. You should go to America – the inanity and corruption of Trump would be right up your alley. We don’t need that shit here, nor the morons who worship it.

                      A global perspective would leave you better equipped to appreciate the qualities of NZ that self-serving assholes like Key lived to destroy.

                    • Baba Yaga

                      It made it a better place to go about our legitimate business as free citizens. It’s only taken a few months for Labour to tank growth and business confidence, though, so your misery is likely to have company.

                    • Baba Yaga

                      How do you feel about this Stuart:

                      “The mega prison was going to provide 1500 to 2000 new beds for a billion dollars. Instead, we build a new prison to replace the rotting one at a cost of $750 million. That looks worse when you realise that once the new beds are built and the old prison decommissioned, it will result in just 174 additional beds. All that money for 174 extra beds!”

                      http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/andrew-dickens-afternoons/opinion/andrew-dickens-govt-b-team-already-starting-to-play/

                      Is the author correct? Is Labour really that bad with money?

                • Macro

                  I well remember the BS add by National to stop waving good bye to your loved ones – you remember that? I certainly do because almost immediately after they became government the Nats changed the provision for ACC for serious head injury – and promptly put around 100 specially trained occupational therapists in NZ out of work. Fortunately OZ was upping its game as it realised the seriousness of head injury and the need for specialist aftercare and snapped up all these therapists which (include some of my family). So one of the first things I did under National was to wave good bye to some of my loved ones. I now have to travel to Perth to visit my g’children thanks to National.

          • Baba Yaga 3.2.2.2.1

            Yes ACC was pushing for higher density…a totally unsustainable model due to the lack of infrastructure to support it. What ACC did wrong was fighting for an artificial RU limit. Letting Auckland sprawl along main trunk transport links was the way to go, and ACC fought that. Brown and Goff…two idiot left wing mayors.

            • Draco T Bastard 3.2.2.2.1.1

              Letting Auckland sprawl along main trunk transport links was the way to go, and ACC fought that.

              That is unsustainable and expensive. Better to limit Auckland’s growth and develop the regional centres such as Dunedin, Hamilton and Kaitaia.

              • Baba Yaga

                “That is unsustainable and expensive.”

                One word – Pokeno. A hugely successful private sector project that shows just how well the market works when it is left alone.

                From an infrastructure investment viewpoint, greenfields developments are considerably less expensive. High density is simply the cuddly toy of people who are obsessed with trying to justify the ludicrous costs of public transport.

                • L0L !… how many Pokeno’s are there,… and lets get honest , sandwiched between Auckland and Hamilton , in the heart of a rural area , … there can only be so many service centers like Pokeno.

                  OR,… we could take you up on the challenge on ” just how well the market works when it is left alone ” and demand you test that theory on an isolated coastal road on the east cape…

                  Face it Bub ,… the only reason Pokeno succeeds as it does today is that the foundations for that area were set long ago by the actions of govt subsidy’s and the building of infrastructures. And that included public transport.

                  Look.

                  There’s a very large continent a few thousand Kilometers from here that you can go and live in called the United States of America. I suggest you fuck off smartly and do it. I’m sure you would be much happier there than trying to convince a population when they’ve already tested the two systems and found the neo liberal free market one wanting…

                  • babayaga

                    “how many Pokeno’s are there”
                    There could be lots! Anyway, not to worry, sprawl is winning out. “Modelling suggests the city’s urban boundaries will continue to expand and eventually swallow up towns from Warkworth in the north to Kumeu in the northwest.”..https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/79068859/Aucklands-future-more-sprawl-but-better-public-transport

                    “and demand you test that theory on an isolated coastal road on the east cape…”
                    Why? Has the government commissioned a city there? Are there jobs there? You see Pokeno got off the ground because of capital. Private capital. Let the market get on with things, and it will deliver.

                    “the only reason Pokeno succeeds as it does today is that the foundations for that area were set long ago by the actions of govt subsidy’s and the building of infrastructures. And that included public transport.”
                    To Pokeno? Are you dreaming?

                    “and found the neo liberal free market one wanting…”
                    You really don’t have a clue, do you? Are you suggesting sprawl is somehow ‘neo-liberal’?

                    • No , I’m suggesting your glowing example of ‘Pokeno’ is a flawed one to say the least.

                      And this, if your neo liberal glee is so overiding of your senses…

                      … ” Why? Has the government commissioned a city there? Are there jobs there? ”…

                      So just why – during a housing crisis, – did Paula Bennett encourage so many poor family’s to move to where there are no jobs not so long ago?

                      Is prosperity and wealth only the preserve of the wealthy with existing capital to invest ? But the poor,… hell !, – they can just go live in a dog kennel in a swamp.

                    • babayaga

                      You said that the US had “tested the two systems and found the neo liberal free market one wanting…”

                      Which of the two systems is neo-liberal?

                    • This is getting rich …

                      ”You said that the US had “tested the two systems and found the neo liberal free market one wanting…”

                      Not the US , dopey , – the population in NZ !

                      L0L!

                      Give us a break 🙂

                      You are obviously of some American political extract, so I wouldn’t expect you to have the slightest bit of interest in our country’s recent political history , – particularly that pre 1984.

                      Or anything else about NZ for that matter. Hence the suggestion that perhaps you may be happier back in the USA.

                    • Baba Yaga

                      OK, so which of the two that NZ has tried was neo-liberal? Because right now Auckland is trying BOTH.

                      As to the US, I’d far rather live here, thanks. National did a good job at running NZ, whereas Obama stuffed the US well and truly.

          • WILD KATIPO 3.2.2.2.2

            Facts are , most settled in Auckland . There was no planning . There was no recognition of where to house recent arrivals. But what there was , was plenty of excuses of why not , and wringing of hands.

            But even that served the purposes of National.

            Now we have a situation that housing shortages have spread to the provincial centers , as domestic and foreign speculation spread further from home.

            And nothing was ever done about it , – on BOTH ends of the spectrum.

    • Draco T Bastard 3.3

      ATM, I think it would be more beneficial for the country if National held themselves to account and admitted that it was their polices that caused the problem.

      • Puckish Rogue 3.3.1

        Ok I’ll bite, why would it be beneficial for the country, what would that actually do?

        • Draco T Bastard 3.3.1.1

          It might make National realise that they’re actually wrong. This is a long shot though as they tend to not accept responsibility for their actions and never admit fault.

          It will allow the rest of the country to put the blame where it lies and thus allow them to discuss better policies.

          • Puckish Rogue 3.3.1.1.1

            So basically it’ll divert the problems the present government has to the previous government so people can ignore what the present government is doing

            For the sake of the country of course

            • Draco T Bastard 3.3.1.1.1.1

              No.

              It’ll show up the incompetence of the last government while allowing us to move on from their failed policies.

              • Puckish Rogue

                What do you mean “allowing us to move on from their failed policies”, are the COL being held hostage, are the COL not having enough reviews, can the COL just simply do what they said they’d do

                Apparently not without Nationals say so

      • Baba Yaga 3.3.2

        Except it wasn’t. As this article reveals housing consents under Labour were plummeting. Couple that with an incompetent ACC and bang you have a problem.

        https://www.nbr.co.nz/opinion/chart-reveals-gfcs-starring-role-aucklands-housing-crisis

        • Treetop 3.3.2.1

          Retirement villages seem to build large numbers of small stand alone homes.

          How do they do it?

          Does the government subsidise?

          Does the potential owner stump up a cash deposit?

          Are there tax concessions?

          Wrong place meant for 4.1

  4. Treetop 4

    The current government has done the most social fixing in 8 months that I have seen in my life. I am in the 55-60 age bracket.

    Fixing housing is so complex. The cost of land, building materials, tradies wages or shortages, property developers wanting premium profit, council infrastructure, building consents and objections to those consents. To a degree immigration, the cost of rent and wages are also factors.

    4 out of 5 Aucklanders cannot comfortably afford to pay a mortgage.

    Were National in government I doubt the housing situation would be any different than it is now. Probably it would be worse.

    • Brendon Harre 4.1

      I have written a lot about housing and urbanisation in NZ. The government does need to act on housing. They are making progress but it is a big job. Check out my latest report.
      https://medium.com/land-buildings-identity-and-values/why-tax-house-building-in-a-housing-crisis-5abd5e0a489a

    • Yet it is ironic that the OP’s namesake, ‘ Mickey Savage ‘ seemed to be able to cut through the red tape and launch a program that built thousands of em.

      Perhaps there’s something in the water these days that has not only dulled our minds and memory’s but also our ability to actually get anything done.

      Or maybe its just plain old neo liberalism at work.

      • Draco T Bastard 4.2.1

        Yet it is ironic that the OP’s namesake, ‘ Mickey Savage ‘ seemed to be able to cut through the red tape and launch a program that built thousands of em.

        I doubt it was that he cut through red tape as there simply wasn’t that much of it. It was that the 1st Labour government realised that it could create money and that if it owned the asset afterwards it didn’t even need the money back.

        Basically, they bypassed the delusional idea that we needed the rich to do stuff for us and had us do it all ourselves. The banksters didn’t like it and such was curtailed over the decades to the point that most people don’t even know that the 1st Labour created money as needed.

        • WILD KATIPO 4.2.1.1

          NZ’s best kept secret then?

          Shout it from the rooftops and send the Australians back to do their banking in Australia then.

          That’ll fuck em.

      • alwyn 4.2.2

        “Mickey Savage ‘ seemed to be able to cut through the red tape “.

        That was because the first Labour Government had a competent person to do the work. That was John A Lee. He wasn’t even a Minister in the Cabinet. His highest rank was as an Under-Secretary to the Minister of Finance.

        What have the current lot got? Phil Twyford for God’s sake. I’ve observed a lot of no-hoper Ministers but he may be the worst ever in an important position.

        Is it any wonder that they aren’t going forward? That they aren’t even standing still? Looking at the changes in the waiting lists for State rental housing they are stuck in reverse gear with the throttle to the floor.

        • Stuart Munro 4.2.2.1

          However badly Twyford might compare with Savage, his immediate predecessor was Nick’s Myth – a fellow who made no effort whatsoever in any of his portfolios. Twyford shines by comparison.

          • alwyn 4.2.2.1.1

            I wasn’t comparing him with Savage. Savage, as opposed to his successor Peter Fraser, was a nonentity in my opinion.
            It was John A Lee who was the driving force behind the system.
            Rather like Mike Moore of course. Lee got booted out of the Party.

            • Stuart Munro 4.2.2.1.1.1

              I don’t think Lee is honored by the comparison to Moore – just another neoliberal sellout.

              • alwyn

                Hmm. I wasn’t thinking of it like that but you are probably right.
                I had only been thinking about how they weren’t treated too kindly by the party.
                Lee, of course became quite a successful businessman in later life with his Bookshop. He had to make a living somehow.

                • Stuart Munro

                  Mmm – I’ve read a couple of his books – a pretty different society back then, albeit with some similar problems.

  5. ianmac 5

    Not only the Government has a role in caring for the people, but also the wider community. Judith could do better by saying, “How can I/we help?” Instead she sneers and denigrates.

    • Draco T Bastard 5.1

      Judith, and the rest of National, are all about how the rich can bludge more off of the general populace than actually helping.

  6. Michelle 6

    Building the houses on the scale that is needed will take time once they start we will see a roll on. Bulk purchasing for housing products will help keep the price down. And it is far better to do something once and do it properly than rush and make mistakes. You cannot fix 9 years of mess in 9 months and its even harder when more mess left by the last lot is being uncovered on a regular basis. Its like driving around a corner and you don’t know what’s around the corner until you get closer and all of a sudden wham ! it hits you another bloody mess.
    As for Judeath collins she is hungry for power and playing to her constituents. She should retire and stop being greedy and nasty and she will never be our PM, many of younger generation can see right through her thank goodness.

  7. cleangreen 7

    Of course we already have been advised that it is some of the old “embeded National apppointees” that are slowing the ‘consent process down that caused the slow rate of house building dont we now?

    Then they can then blame it all on the labour Coalition Government.

    We always knew that national would leave snags and traps and grenades behind as they got booted out of Government didn’t we.

    it seems to be working fine to trip up the new government.

    Same countries would call this “crimes against the people”

    National Party should be taken down legally in the courts and fined very heavy costs for their willful damages to our people and it’s governence now.

  8. Bill 8

    It will take years to build enough houses to start and make a difference …

    That being the case, what are the 40 odd thousand people deemed to be homeless meant to do for those years?

    Carry on bunking down on a mate’s couch? Keep on sleeping in a car or garage? Just keep shifting that tent or looking for ever better doorways and arches?

    Fuck all this handwringing bullshit and wanking on about who’s right or more wrong! I (and I suspect thousands of others) really couldn’t give a fuck about National being “indignant” or for Labour being whatever Labour is being.

    Over 40 000 people categorised as homeless and we’re to focus on the teletubby fucks in the beehive!?

    Where are the requisitions of empty properties? Where are the legislative changes that would facilitate squatting? Or any number of other changes that could be instigated now and that would have effect now? Where are they?

    • … ‘ Over 40 000 people categorised as homeless and we’re to focus on the teletubby fucks in the beehive! ? Where are the requisitions of empty properties? Where are the legislative changes that would facilitate squatting? Or any number of other changes that could be instigated now and that would have effect now? Where are they? ‘ …

      ^^^

      THIS.

    • Draco T Bastard 8.2

      Where are the legislative changes that would facilitate squatting?

      That’s not going to happen in a country ruled by the religion of Private Property.

  9. Wensleydale 9

    Phil Twyford really needs to start being a little more scathing in the house. Collins spits venom like a machine gun, despite her naked hypocrisy and National’s utter refusal to take responsibility for pillaging housing for nine long years. Phil should have said, “So, essentially Judith, you spent nine years gleefully smashing housing to pieces, and now you’re having a cry about us not magically glueing it back together in a fraction of the time?”

    Anyone with even a vaguely smart mouth could have a fucking field day with that woman. (Granted, you don’t want to come across as being too facetious, but still… )

    • Look , if that woman was in English politics she would have been lampooned out of parliament decades ago.

      Can you imagine how long she would last against the cool headed laser like delivery of facts that Jeremy Corbyn would broadside her with?

      And then not giving a tarnished tupence when she throws one of her little huffs?

      Yet here in NZ she gets to come back , year after year to fulfill the clown quotient.

      Amazing.

    • Robert Guyton 9.2

      ” “So, essentially Judith, you spent nine years gleefully smashing housing to pieces, and now you’re having a cry about us not magically glueing it back together in a fraction of the time?””
      Elegantly put, Wensleydale.

    • patricia bremner 9.3

      Wensleydale 1000%

  10. patricia bremner 10

    Just compare what they have done. It is self evident. 65% trust this Coalition!!

    Judith thinks she is making headway, but people remember Orivida.

    The homeless know they are being helped in many ways…. ask them. eg Rotorua.

    • … ‘ Judith thinks she is making headway, but people remember Orivida ‘…

      And the only reason more hasn’t been made of that is because shes been offside and demoted with most of the inner circle.

      We have the shower pisser/ pony tail puller and XKEYSCORE man Key.

      We have Dildo Baggins and the 11 billion dollar hole.

      We have ‘ barge through the security door’ and ex Minister for Defense Gerry Brownlee.

      We have the Double Dipper and Toddles.

      And then there’s Judith.

      With her Dirty Politics, her conflicts of interest with Orivida, swamp Kauri , and water to China… she will be easy to swat down.

      • alwyn 10.1.1

        The various Labour Cabinet Ministers appear to like Judith Collins a great deal more than you do.
        Either that or they are just typical dirty old men from the Labour ranks.
        I realise you may not like the source but hold your nose and look at these ratbags from the Cabinet ranks.
        https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/06/no-howls-of-outrage-as-another-labour-mp-shows-his-male-privilege/#more-388953
        Then tell us how you have a thing about John Key but can support this lot?

        • WILD KATIPO 10.1.1.1

          … ” The various Labour Cabinet Ministers appear to like Judith Collins a great deal more than you do ”…

          And the operative word here is ; ‘ Appear’.

          ‘ Appears to ‘… but by whom ?… can you prove that or is that just some subjective claim to bolster your narrative.

          And that link you provided ?

          I notice its an article from Whaleoil. The same site run by the same character central to Dirty Politics and to which one by one, even John Key and his cronies distanced themselves and disowned , – and who was later subject to court actions.

          You actually think I or others would give credence to that leprous site?

          Get real.

          • alwyn 10.1.1.1.1

            You didn’t look at it did you?
            You are therefore in no position at all to discuss the matter.
            I suppose you might argue that Slater is competent enough to make fake video clips of various Labour MPs and their behaviour but I doubt that he is.
            If you haven’t looked at it then you should just shut up.
            When you have seen it you can then comment on the subject.

            • WILD KATIPO 10.1.1.1.1.1

              Indeed I did look at the odious piece of propaganda… 5 minutes after you posted it. I just didn’t think it worth commenting on. But if you insist…

              One thing I did notice that Judith Collins was not particularly offended in any of the clips. Unlike the waitress who endured over 6 months of pony tail pulling abuse from John Key.

              And that was after she told Key to desist.

              So your point is , exactly?

              • alwyn

                ” Judith Collins was not particularly offended in any of the clips”.
                So it’s all right then? She didn’t belt them or burst into tears so obviously she was enjoying it? She didn’t immediately make a complaint to the police so she liked it?
                That is one of the standard defences about rape isn’t it?.
                She didn’t try to claw his eyes out so she really wasn’t upset and therefore it wasn’t really rape.
                You do realise that you are using exactly the same excuses don’t you? If a woman doesn’t react violently it is because she really likes what is going on?
                I hope you don’t really feel like that. The problem is that it appears that you do. Judith Collins is an inferior being and whatever anyone does to her is OK. That seems to be your credo.
                Well change it.

                • I don’t think even you believe for one minute in what you are trying to assert. You are grasping for straws in trying to build a case for a ‘ Labour does it too’ gotcha narrative.

                  Sorry.

                  No cigar.

                  And um ,… I will say also,… that whole thing you tried to promote was kinda inane and pretty childish , – like the articles author.

                  • In Vino

                    Not wanting to be unfair in any way, but from my readings alwyn is always pushing some wild interpretation he/she made, then aggressively insulting anyone who dares to disagree. And always accusatory. Often puts his/her own words into the mouths of those who he/she presumes to criticise.
                    Silly alwyn. I keep telling him/her that he/she needs a healthier pastime.

                    • alwyn is a joke and good sport to be had…

                      Here’s an example of how anyone can misrepresent a photo for a particular angle they wish to push… from an article I’m reading currently about 19th century Shanghaiing of sailors ( and the men below who successfully outlawed the practice )… notice one mans arm around the other…

                      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Furuseth-La_Follette-Steffens-1915.jpeg

                      The men in the photo are :

                      Andrew Furuseth (left) and Senator La Follette (center) were the architects of the Seamen’s Act of 1915. With muckraker Lincoln Steffens, circa 1915.

                      Silly little person you are, alwyn,… silly.

  11. Herodotus 11

    I hate point out some history, we had housing issues present under the Helen Clark government, deteriorating house affordability.
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0708/S00336.htm
    At the time of the GFC funding lines for builder developers etc. were severely limited. 2nd tier financing coys were going under, and the trading banks were not only cutting funding but were also reducing exisiting credit facilities so companies had no cash flow to continue development.
    We were brought IMO to a position whereby the 08 Nat govt should have acted on the issue, and Nats response like SHA’s was not a realistic solution.
    The issue that presented itself to Nationals was compounded by immigration, offshore investors and limited construction, and limited sources to finance developments or build spec houses.
    So anyone who comments that this was caused by National is false, but I will say it again the Nats compounded the issue.

  12. Daveosaurus 12

    It’s easy to find out which party is responsible for the problem. One lamentable NIMBY MP was spouting off on the radio this morning about how more houses were A Bad Thing because it would mean more “untermenschen” in his precious leafy WASP suburb. Whichever party he belonged to… is responsible.

  13. A few years ago it was forecast that there was going to be a surge in appartments being made available to the market
    August 17
    Last month, a top researcher said Auckland’s construction surge would result in 1216 new apartments worth more than $600 million being built this year in the CBD, the highest number this decade.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11905932
    When a large number of appartments are made available they will bring the average “house” price down. The reporting of the trending average house price can be misleading unless analysis of what supports the numbers is made.
    So don’t start drinking the champagne just yet.
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/06/nz-house-prices-growing-while-auckland-has-found-middle-ground-report.html
    But Aucklanders shouldn’t get too excited. Ms Norwell explains that despite the annual decrease in house prices, Auckland’s average price of $852,000 is actually up $2000 on April 2018.
    Auckland’s house prices appear to have decreased on an annual basis, Ms Norwell explains, but the housing market isn’t necessarily experiencing a price decline – “it’s just a result of a decrease in $1 million plus properties year-on-year.”

  14. Gabby 14

    If the waiting list is growing, it’s probably because more people think it might be worthwhile applying.

    • patricia bremner 14.1

      I couldn’t locate it, but I seem to remember the Minister saying many were coming from 2 families in a rental. At least this Government is making serious efforts. I think he also said it would get worse before it peaked.

  15. Mike Steinberg 15

    Labour, and Iain Lees-Galloway in particular, do need to be asked why they are not reducing non-citizen immigration from 45,000 per year to something more sustainable. Adding almost 1000 new citizens a week is driving up house prices and needs to be reviewed.

    It was around 15-20,000 per year in the 80’s and early 90’s.

    Michael Reddell notes this is the main demand side factor in housing unaffordability.

    “From 1991 to 2013, non-New Zealand citizen immigration accounted for around 71 per cent of the change in the number of households (or dwellings required). For the last two intercensal periods the contributions of non-New Zealand citizen net immigration were as follows:
    •2001 to 2006 70 per cent
    •2006 to 2013 106 per cent”

  16. Rozgonz 16

    Hey, Twyford has made the promises, don’t deflect on what National did or didn’t do. Kiwibuild (or lack of it) stands to be the big issue (among many others) that will bring the conceited Twyford and Jacinta down come next election (or before). It will be like watching a car crash in slow motion. I’m enjoying the front row seat…

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