NRT: More police crime

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1. McFlock 1

   17 October 2013 at 3:10 pm

   I wonder if McCready wants to take on the cops? 🙂
   • lprent 1.1

     17 October 2013 at 3:19 pm

     I’d be willing to donate towards the cause.

     Clearly the police are incompetent to deal with their own when they refuse to deal with officers capable of this kind of crap. The IPCA has no power to lay charges. The government’s legal offices can’t as far as I’m aware.

     It means that no-one is held accountable for either the police assault or the the subsequent attempt to cover up the seriousness of the assault and it’s consequences. Justice is not seen to be done. In fact it is trampled underfoot by those who are meant to uphold it.

     Who is left apart from the public prosecution of police?
     • Ennui 1.1.1

       17 October 2013 at 3:35 pm

       It would make extremely good Labour policy to announce policies to strengthen public respect for the police, after all if we cant trust them who can we trust?

       The trick is to raise the bar with regard to the public’s expectations of the police, after all they are our heroes so there would be no problem with a revamped IPCA that can demonstrate, (independently of course) that the cops meet our high expectations. Of course when they don’t the newly announced teeth for the IPCA would get rid of “bad eggs”. Of course the Lor’in’orda bigots would object but would be easily silenced by “the law is the law and our Police heroes abide by it, cos they are the good guys”.
2. richard 2

   17 October 2013 at 3:17 pm

   This is disturbing:

   Despite breaking the law by entering the house, Nicholls said none of the 11 officers involved had been, or would be, disciplined.

   Either the police at the scene are blind and didn’t see one of their colleagues cracking someone on the back of the head with a baton or at least one of them did and lied along with the perpetrator.

   And then this:

   The authority had also investigated a complaint that unauthorised material was sent to a media outlet after the incident.

   The release had been made to discredit a complainant, but the administrator who leaked the information had left the police, Judge Carruthers said.

   So will this person be prosecuted?
   http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9294502/Police-used-excessive-force-report

   Edit: the post update happened while I was writing this.
3. Red Rosa 3

   17 October 2013 at 4:37 pm

   Deeply disturbing. NRT has earlier pointed to this ChCh story

   http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/9223382/Compo-for-horrific-police-beating
   • Draco T Bastard 3.1

     17 October 2013 at 5:37 pm

     Why is that officer still working for the police and not behind bars?
   • Rogue Trooper 3.2

     17 October 2013 at 5:41 pm

     ‘Oh Lord, stuck in Low die again”
4. tc 4

   17 October 2013 at 5:40 pm

   Seems rickard/shipton could be the tip of an ugly iceberg everyone keeps sailing around. remember how high up rickard was.
   • greywarbler 4.1

     18 October 2013 at 11:26 am

     And what a bad look that was for the name Rickard. When I saw the Rickard name still involved with the police a short while ago, it brought very unpleasant memories. Eva Rickard was a Maori worker for return of land and gained great respect. Then that name was besmirched by muscle-boy, sports-jock, coupled with pack and power, bad behaviour.
     • joe90 4.1.1

       18 October 2013 at 12:05 pm

       Years ago I had the pleasure of spending a long weekend at Poihakena Marae in the company of Eva and her whānau, an experience that saw scales fall.
       • Rogue Trooper 4.1.1.1

         18 October 2013 at 3:08 pm

         Eyes Wide Open
5. Treetop 5

   17 October 2013 at 5:48 pm

   Just look at this link

   http://disidento.wordpress.com/2013/08/07/secret-inquiry/

   The letter dated 7 August 2013 from the Privacy Commissioner who agrees with the police is the reason an independent tribunal is required to get to the bottom of the ROT.

   http://obrien.wordpress.com/legal/privacy-commissioner/2/

   What next for O’Brien?

   Police do not up hold the law by breaking it.
6. Peter 6

   17 October 2013 at 6:13 pm

   There’s one other thing we need the NGO for too – environmental prosecutions, when central and local government won’t act against polluters.
   • lprent 6.1

     17 October 2013 at 8:30 pm

     Yep.
7. Anne 7

   17 October 2013 at 8:42 pm

   Just left this in “The fish rots from the head” but is relevant (sort of) here as well:

   Another example of the police turning a blind eye to political skulduggery
8. QoT 8

   17 October 2013 at 8:52 pm

   Because acting in good faith and not intending to break the law are excuses that work so well when you’re not a cop. 🙄
   • toad 8.1

     17 October 2013 at 9:18 pm

     +1 QoT

     Pity the rest of us who are not cops and occasionally fuck up and face the full fury of the law.
9. Tracey 9

   17 October 2013 at 9:55 pm

   the police say they dont know who actually hit hi,. of course the commissioner called them all in and said

   if you dont tell me by 4pm which one of you did it, you are all suspended.
10. Adele 10

    17 October 2013 at 11:13 pm

    Kiaora koutou katoa

    I think today’s policing is reflective of rushed training and poor recruiting methods. The Police should strengthen their psychological profiling as it appears that they have well exceeded their quota of sociopaths.

    There has always been an element of brutality in the Police.

    Like moths to a flame, paedophiles to a school – sociopaths are attracted to occupations that allow them free reign on perpetrators – not victims. The law gives them the excuse, and when it doesn’t – simply pretend that it does, and say “whoops, a wee mistake,” never-mind.

    This disturbing element in the Police has always existed. Well, since colonisation. Before colonisation, Māori society was well regulated. The threat of being dismembered was incredibly motivational towards peace, love and harmony. Seriously, and actually, banishment from whānau and hapū was the greatest punishment tangata whenua could suffer – it was worse than being dead.

    Back to the Police.

    Bashing on kids is not a good look. Those in the Police who are not sociopaths should right the night otherwise you are guilty by omission. Eleven policemen participated in the raid and not one of them actually knew the law – so says the Big Commander. They acted in good faith.

    Faith above the law. Poor training, rushed recruiting and perhaps also befuddled leadership.
    • Treetop 10.1

      18 October 2013 at 12:38 pm

      “Bashing on kids is not a good look.”

      Entering a property unlawfully and then swinging a batton in a narrow hallway, from the start errors were made which puts the reputation of all of the officers at the scene in the spotlight.

      It is my understanding that only four officers were interviewed.

      I would like to know why the four were chosen to be interviewed and why all of the officers at the scene were not interviewed?

      The situation is that four years down the track the man who had his neck fractured is still waiting for justice to be delivered and PNHQ are carrying on as if the aggravated assault did not occur or cause an injury.

      I also would like to know what involvement Marshall has had in this as the incident occurred under Broad?

      What really pisses me off is that the police (PNHQ) are deluded in thinking that the decision from the IPCA does not point the finger at them and that the police have failed to do their duty.
11. Murray Olsen 11

    18 October 2013 at 12:42 am

    If someone comes up with an idea that’ll go somewhere, I’ll contribute.
12. Sable 12

    18 October 2013 at 1:38 pm

    There’s nothing independent about the police complaints authority and that is the crux of the problem. The good cops can not complain and the public have no voice so the bad apples stay in the barrel.

    The real question is why have we not got an independent authority like so many other countries? My view is if the police were reformed then the dirty political elements would have no one to do their bidding. The police might even be inclined to say “no” to actions like the Kim Dotcom affair.

    The problems with our police who used to do such a good job are symptomatic of a general failing of our political system and the pretty blatant corruption seeping into government.
    • tc 12.1

      18 October 2013 at 2:12 pm

      Because they do such a great job it’s not needed (sarc) and anyway the police are doing just fine by the NACT standards.

      Same reason crusher doesn’t see the need for a media watchdog as they’re such bastions of good behaviour and intellect.
    • Murray Olsen 12.2

      18 October 2013 at 5:39 pm

      Any cops who even look like they might do some whistle blowing at some stage are harassed out of the force. They take the same approach to this as the gangs.
    • Ugly Truth 12.3

      19 October 2013 at 1:18 pm

      Public voice isn’t unattainable, and cops, as members of the public, can participate in this.

      To have real authority the right to act cannot be assumed.

      IMO identifying the criminals would be good first step.

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