Jordan Goudreau is a "Canadian-born US military veteran heads the US company at the centre of the plot to overthrow the Venezuelan president. A former Green Beret who received a number of bravery awards, he served 15 years in the US Army, first in the infantry as a mortar specialist, and later as a special forces medical sergeant, the Washington Post newspaper reports."
"He was deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan twice between 2006 and 2014, army officials quoted by the Post say. In 2018, he set up Silvercorp USA, a private security firm, in Florida. The firm advertises a variety of services, including assisting victims of kidnapping and extortion. It claims to have "led international security teams" for the president of the US." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52568475
"Silvercorp's website advertises operations in more than 50 countries, with an advisory team made up of "former diplomats, former heads of security for multinational corporations, and the most experienced and viable military, law enforcement and intelligence professionals in the industry today", without naming them."
"Venezuela's state TV has shown a video of a US citizen apparently confessing to plotting to overthrow President Nicolás Maduro and bring him to the US." "In Wednesday's video, Mr Denman, 34, appeared to explain that he was hired to train Venezuelans in Colombia before returning to Caracas and taking control of an airport to allow Mr Maduro to be taken out of the country. "I was helping Venezuelans take back control of their country," Mr Denman, a former special operations forces member, is seen as saying. Mr Denman said he and Airan Berry, 41, were contracted by Jordan Goudreau".
Opposition leader "Guaidó denied having anything to do with the ex-Green Beret. In a statement, he said he had "no relationship nor responsibility for any actions" taken by the US war veteran."
"Venezuela said it would seek extradition of Mr Goudreau, who has admitted he was involved in the operation." Good luck with that! Sceptics will, of course, claim that this is all just a conspiracy theory, as usual…
"At the end of March, Goudreau’s main ally, a hard-line former Venezuelan general, broadcast the plans to anyone who’d listen, then turned himself in to Colombian officials and was deported to the United States, where he’s currently in prison on drug trafficking charges. Goudreau, meanwhile, posted multiple tweets telling the world that he was about to do a coup."
That's from the Huffpost report. So something new: a twittercoup. Maduro: "We knew everything." What he didn't say: "We read Twitter!" And can't call it a conspiracy – they happen in secret. This operation was public domain.
Reading between the lines of the HuffPo piece, it appears there was the beginnings of a plan working with Guaido and the rest of the Venezuelan opposition. But that went cold. So it appears Dumb and Dumber went ahead anyway, on spec, possibly expecting a payoff in post-coup gratitude.
Well, not quite sure how you might want to define 'client'. I don't think it's controversial to say that Guaidó was 'in the loop'. And if anyone thinks Guaidó makes any moves without the knowledge and at least tacit approval of the US, then I'd like to see them produce evidence of the puppet having acted on its own.
Anyway, rather than focusing on the 'client', maybe it's more worthwhile looking to where the incentive might have come from?
And on that front, as the Huffington Post article points out…
But even if there’s no evidence the U.S. was aware of or involved in the plot, as the AP reported, it’s plausible that Trump’s rabid “maximum pressure” campaign against Venezuela ― and his decision to place a $15 million bounty on Maduro’s head in March — helped fuel the absurd belief that a ragtag band of low-rent mercenaries could waltz into Caracas to cheering masses who’d greet them as liberators as they toppled an entrenched authoritarian.
Maybe also worth noting that the attempts to ouster Maduro 'enjoys' Congressional bi-partisan support and approval?
Cool, ta. "Cliver Alcalá, a former major general in the Venezuelan army and lifelong supporter of former president Hugo Chavez who had been living in exile".
First, you don't get to be a major general if you are a fool. Not even in Latin America. Second, as a committed supporter of Chavez you'd expect him to support Maduro. This alerts us to the framing of left/right usually imposed on the Venezualan conflict is too simple.
"And last month, Alcalá was indicted by U.S. prosecutors alongside Maduro as one of the architects of a narcoterrorist conspiracy that allegedly sent 250 metric tons of cocaine every year to the U.S." So he fell out with his drug baron buddy, huh??
Very amusing listening to a farming lobbiest on Nat Radio just now demanding welfare benefits to help with this year's drought..
.. stick with your National Party roots bro – "some people just make poor life decisions"
.. and doesn't occur to them to put a little aside each year so there is a buffer for drought years?? It isn't as if it is unforeseeable…
Capitalists, conservatives and National Party – the laughing stock of the nation as their long held politics are ditched for socialism…
It was always going to happen. Such is humanity. Socialist to the core. Conservatives are so slow to catch on… to everything… they are like a lead weight slowing the rest down
It's going into winter but it's been a surprisingly good exporting year.
The lamb is lean, the apples are awesome, all the vintners are telling me it's going to be an utterly vintage year, now all those moron Chinese need to do is recognise our venison as farmed not wild.
So despite many still in drought and having had their freight ships stopped, farmers and the export companies are going keep bringing in the profits and the taxes that help us stay afloat.
So right. You see it clearly. Not sure about the taxes as all the smaller runs will make a loss but like the guy on TV trying to open his bar realising he Will makes no money but keep a few staff employed. Hopefully we will get there.
For a moment I thought I was reading quotes from Corbyn or Sanders. But no, Bolger has had an epiphany.
Neoliberalism, championing an unfettered free market, has been a failure, Bolger says.
"Neoliberalism … created massive unequal growth," he says.
"Wealth flowed uphill to the top, and they became massively, excessively, grossly wealthy. And the bottom … are barely surviving one paycheck to another."
What we need, Bolger says, is a willingness to take a radical approach.
Thanks aj. If NZ takes notice of the venerable John Key then maybe there is hope that the venerable Jim Bolger must be heard. Will the Herald post his opinion?
Only after 3 long years of extreme ideologically-propelled experimentation, after an absolutely unprecedented long-term plunge in the polls (from 50% right after their 1990 Election win down to the low 20s barely a year later) and, even then, Bolger took another 2 years to dump her … waiting until they came pretty damn close to losing power at the 1993 General Election (with parties openly critical of the Govt's direction – Lab / Alliance / NZF – collectively winning a significant majority of the vote).
Bolger, of course, was broadly from the Muldoonist wing of the Party, never had all that much time for Richardson … but was still willing to tolerate her social destruction as Finance minister simply in order to placate internal opponents within caucus & the wider party.
Thanks for the correction swordfish. It was my recollection he dumped her a little sooner but you know… memories can become frayed with time.
I was never a supporter of Bolger's politics but…. after nine years of Muldoon and several years of the angst caused by the Rogernomes followed by Ruth R., Bolger himself seemed like a decent man. I think he was a decent man caught up in an ideological storm he wouldn’t or couldn't reverse. Whatever, he had the nous to eat humble pie at a later date – as indeed did David Lange.
In case anyone needs reminding, Bolger was in charge of the most radical reforms of our economy, welfare system, and political order since MJ Savage. He and Richardson left Lange and Douglas for dust in terms of severity and chaos and long term destruction of our society.
This Emmaus-level hypocrisy crap out of his mouth about neliberalism is the burblings of a barely functioning 84 year old multimillionaire farmer hoping Mallard will keep tapping talc into his gimp mask to keep the happy moans going within the penthouse floors of The Terrace.
Your first para is quite true. But those words might ring the bell in a few other heads. It all helps.Better than taking his ideology intact to the grave.
My God you're a shit sometimes Ad. Why, I don't know. You show a marked disdain for anyone over the age of 65 as if we're all senile and incapable of coherent thought.
Well, I've got news for you. One day you’re going to be one of us. I bet you're attitude will change then.
And he was not responsible for all those reforms. Some of them yes, but as I said @ 2.2.2.1, he dumped Richardson quite early in his tenure… because he believed even then she had gone too far. And Jenny Shipley finished the job.
You'd have to be remarkably stupid to defend Bolger – and still you leapt at the chance
His hard right reforms got worse and worse throughout his 8 years in power. He was a far more effective Prime Minister than that fool David Lange ever was, because Jim Bolger was actually in charge of his Cabinet and his Finance Minister: he was responsible for it and we all knew it.
Shipley was PM for barely 18 months and achieved nothing except the annihilation of the National Party for nearly a decade.
Don't we aspire to be a country that cares and looks after everyone during troubled times (not just those that are on our side of the political divide)?
Thank god we have Jacinda who lives and demonstrates that every day, or at least trys to.
I could not agree more! Farmers take the money in good years, set up Trusts to minimise tax, pay expensive tax lawyers and arrange finances to their kids go through university on full benefit. There is no honesty in business!
VTO. If you going to talk through your arse just don’t. I live in CHB where are used to the dry conditions and farm accordingly. My son is trying to cope with the fact that our spring that waters our stock on 260 htrs is running at 12 litres a minute. We are pumping from a Dam that I built for this reason so we have alternate water. We have made baleage that we hope will be enough for winter but have been feeding our sheep grain and bulls palm kernel since Feb.we buy palm kernel because you can’t buy anything else. we haven’t destocked because there’s no where to send them. The works are running at half speed because of Covid. So far this situation has cost him around sixty thousand dollars and counting. Don’t tell me we don’t put feed aside to plan for the winter. You talk like the uninformed ignorant prat you must be. Oh by the way we grow the fucking food you and most others Eat.
Good post New View. Farmers need respect as the start of the food chain, they are willing to get out there & battle the elements. Most people that criticise farmers when times turn bad wouldn’t last a day working on the land, and wouldn’t have the balls to buy some land & mortgage themselves to the hilt.
".. stick with your National Party roots bro – "some people just make poor life decisions"
Ha ha, I like it. The bit that is realy getting to me is all the winging by the right expecting socialistic handouts from the government.
I had a tory friend phone to see if we were coping OK yesterday, (not a bad guy really) I felt he only phoned to have a winge about how Ardern has really stuffed the country (the virus is all Ardrens and Labours fault ) and was not getting any help from the government.
This drought is being compounded by the pandemic farmers can't sell stock to free up cash.
Being Nasty like you claim about life choices is disgusting ,That's why Jacinda is so popular she doesn't lower herself to Paula Bennett cheap nasty shots
As an example of what ails our media, a headline from Stuff today reads, 'Coronavirus: Level 2 shows Covid-19 alert system's weakness'. Luke Malpass seems to think that the planned Levels should be immutably cast in stone and very prescriptive. Perhaps he wants the PM to be the loving mother of the nation who gives him a hug and tells him when he may go to the loo. If he bothered to refer back to the original levels that were mailed out, he would see that what was intended was very clearly signalled ages ago. Yesterday's announcement just reiterated what Level 2 means with some examples for clarification. The Stuff wank-fest also brings to mind the 'mediaed' to death whinging of the Principal of an Auckland secondary school who made a great fuss over the fact that the Ministry of Education hadn't detailed how he should run his school. What the fuck is he paid to do? He should have been conferring with his leadership team and doing some planning instead crying to the Court of Insignificance run by the Leader of the Opposition and then moaning to the media. Tim O'Connor must have been severely deflated with yesterday's announcement. Most Principals where ready to quietly and competently manage their schools through a pandemic. One can only hope that the majority of NZers (including children who have been responding well so far) will behave as grown-ups, continue to act sensibly and take responsibility for building on the successes that have been achieved so far. To save referring back to the mail-out, "Level 2 – Reduce: Disease is contained, but risk of community transmission growing." This is followed by risk assessment criteria then a range of measures which are pretty much identical to those the PM outlined at yesterday's briefing.
+1 I read to the point where Malpass said " and the health advice seems to change with regularity" and realised the article was a beat up. The health advice to people has been totally consistent. Under Level 2 there may be some people confused about how to apply that advice within their business. But I don't think that should be too difficult if people want to think about it. For gods sake just use your brain. There have been plenty of examples of how businesses are managing under level 3. It's not too hard.
Talking to a person who is part of the surgical team at Middlemore. The usual pre-op drugs are no longer available probably due to India being shut down. They are apparently having to use a barbiturate that dates back to the 1960s, which gives unpleasant side effects like disorientation and even hallucinations. How many other drugs are going to be impacted by Pharmac having a single supplier?
Not sure it's all down to the problem of having a single supplier. And drug supplies certainly aren't going to be the only items affected.
There is 'bugger all' moving by air at the moment.
Now sure, most items can be moved by sea if air is out, but given the significant shift in time frames and the likelihood that most people and businesses got 'caught out', I'd be thinking a huge gap in availability pretty much across the board is on the cards.
There was clearly an 'Oh shit!' moment at the Mystery of Health yesterday as Ardern stated quite determinedly that hairdressers unleashed at Level 2 would have to wear masks.
No doubt there will have been others who pointed out the inconsistent messaging on the wearing of PPE, especially frontline health workers, and specifically support workers providing personal care in clients' homes.
'Masks not needed unless patient or client has or is suspected of having the virus.' was the initial messaging that was repeatedly stated by the popular experts while those at the frontline advised the Precautionary Approach 'because we simply don't know who is infectious…'.
Then around about the 23rd April the Guidelines were updated which 'allowed' mask wearing by homecare workers if physical distancing could not be maintained.
Then Ardern states yesterday that hairdressers 'must wear masks'….and some poor minion at the Misery must have spent the night in a furious Guideline rewrite to produce the more heavy on the ticked boxes version that greeted me this morning.
But…. many of the ticks are not quite as definite as it would appear.
Crack out your close work spectacles and read the tiny print.
Masks worn inappropriately ,put on or adjusted,worn to long are more of a danger than keeping away from others. But if you are working next to somebody that's when correct procedures and protocols are necessary.
NZ pandemic expert who was in charge of the controlling the Sars outbreak says there is a 10 point protocol for correctly putting on PPE if not followed makes it ineffective.
What say you not comment until you have actually read at least the original post?
Or perhaps, take the time to explain what prompted your "Science not scaremongering. " instruction.
In little words, Tricledrown, so even you can understand…
…the point of my comment here today and my comments last evening is the very weird mixed message about who should be wearing PPE.
Hairdressers must wear PPE regardless of Covid 19 status of clients, while health care workers have been repeatedly told over the past two and a half months they only should wear masks when their charge has or is suspected of having The Virus.
How does your overview account for the official line saying hairdressers need masks regardless of Covid status of clients and healthcare workers only need a mask if the client has Covid?
Perhaps the perception is that hairdressers are more capable of learning proper donning and doffing of PPE than healthcare workers?
That status for care workers have changed after the outbreaks in 5 care facilities.My wife and niece work in care homes at first a mask was only required when in close contact .Now its across the board hand washing and distancing was optional now strictly enforced
Right from the beginning healthcare workers at all levels were asking, begging for it to be SOP to wear at least masks when dealing hands on with patients or clients.
The Ministry and its mouthpieces determined otherwise.
The only thing that had changed is the Ministry's guidelines…and even then indeterminately.
Rest homes and private homes are two different workforces, with different advocates, unions and contracts. The squeakiest wheel got the media and the backdowns.
"…explain what prompted your "Science not scaremongering. " instruction. " "
Rosemary, I wonder if that comment might have had something to do with your disparaging "the Mystery of Health" and "some poor minion at the Misery" comments @6. Your criticism is consistent, but your derogatory labelling is not.
"No doubt there will have been others who pointed out the inconsistent messaging on" your choice of slur.
But disparagement can be part of a fearmonger's toolkit.
For example, if I wanted to highlight or engender concerns/fears about the lack of competency of a particular Government Ministry, I might try replacing 'Ministry' with "Mystery" and/or "Misery". Undermining worthy of a politician.
And full credit to Aunty Rosemary, such substitutions are amusing – well done.
Fear of inconsistent/incorrect MoH advice on PPE use during a pandemic?
Maybe it's helpful to describe the MoH as a 'Mystery' and a 'Misery' during a pandemic – I think it's not. No affiliations to the Mystery/Misery, fwiw.
I could have used my other term of endearment…"Miserly"…but I doubt it accurately applies in this situation.
Considering the MOH harbours some of the highest paid bureaucrats/public servants it's obvious they're not averse to spending the tax dollars allocated them in the Budgets.
Its how they choose to spend those dollars of ours that is the issue.
Successive governments have largely failed to effect meaningful culture change.
"SSDD." Well said – and all without 'Mystery', or 'Misery', although ‘Miserly‘ is a new twist.
I may understand, in part – wasn't above using a disparaging word or two myself when management went off the reservation, for all the good it did. At least I felt better.
I am pretty sure Tricledrown would have said something along those lines if that was their point.
I have been one of many in the disabled community locked in seeming perpetual combat with those fuckwits at the Ministry of Health for twenty years.
If you had read just a few of the documents that have been shat out by their policy department over the years…never mind reading a few of the Ministry's audits…my weak attempt at making a joke of their title would seem a mild response.
IMHO it has been the long term plan to so under resource the Public Health and Disability sector that the default for those who can afford it will be insurance and private healthcare.
Witness Ngati Whatua taking out medical insurance for its beneficiaries so they can access private health services. Supported by that perennial advocate Lance O'Sullivan.
"NZ pandemic expert who was in charge of the controlling the Sars outbreak says there is a 10 point protocol for correctly putting on PPE if not followed makes it ineffective."
Was that for home care workers or hospital workers? They're not the same.
Re using masks appropriately, this applies to hairdressers and the public too, so your point is kind of moot to Rosemary's.
But. Anyone who wants to moan about the NZ Government response, should read this. And have a think.
"lQuiet on the Eastern Front
I am a Covid ICU nurse in New York City, and yesterday, like many other days lately, I couldn’t fix my patient. Sure, that happens all the time in the ICU. It definitely wasn’t the first time. It certainly won’t be the last. What makes this patient noteworthy? A few things, actually. He was infected with Covid 19, and he lost his battle with Covid 19. He was only 23 years old.
"In just one weekend in early May, at least 20 mobile phone masts across the UK are believed to have been torched or otherwise vandalised."
"Another Openreach engineer, Naveed Q, said he had to flee from a group of 15 people shouting abuse at him; one had accused him of installing 5G equipment in Walthamstow, east London. In Leicester, a man tried to open the door of an Openreach van stopped at a roundabout, according to Dylan F, an apprentice network engineer at the company, while shouting: “Who do you think you are? 5G is killing us all!”"
I was still at school when Buffalo Springfield had a hit singing "paranoia strikes deep, into your lives it will creep". That contagion effect is evident still. There seems to be an irrational part of the human psyche operating like a fertile field that gets seeded by such mental contagions. They don't need a virus to carry them through the populace.
The engineer in me tells me 5G is probably safe enough, but I can understand the skepticism and legitimate caution of people who have no easy way to evaluate what they are being told. It is a trust issue and the industry really should be working a lot harder to prove their case in a way that non-technical people can accept.
Barging into rolling out something people don't trust is a dumb, arrogant move.
Do you have any reason with even a hint of substance to think 5G is not safe? That is, anything beyond the normal scientist and engineers caution that all knowledge and understanding is incomplete, so there just might be something out there we don't yet understand.
There's plenty of history with the frequencies to be used for 5G, at much higher power densities than communications will use. Not a hint of anything hazardous that I'm aware of, beyond simple surface heating at enormously high power densities. There have certainly been a few random statistical clusters that have prompted major investigations that then definitively concluded it was a random statistical cluster.
The one that comes to mind was a cluster of Connecticut traffic cops with testicular cancer. They had regularly been keeping their radar guns in their laps, turned on, occasionally triggering them. Basically they were directly nuking their nuts, but without the hassle of trying to close the microwave door with their junk inside. But that clearly turned to be just a random statistical cluster.
There's plenty of biophysics to say why there's no reason to expect any harmful effects. Or indeed any effects at all, beyond simple surface heating at enormously high power densities.
So all the anti-5G stuff looks to me like fearful people taken in by pseudoscience gobbledegook, trying to inappropriately invoke the precautionary principle.
Andre you need to provide a link for "There's plenty of history with the frequencies to be used for 5G, at much higher power densities than communications will use."
You do understand the inverse square law of power over distance?
You have any idea off the top of your head what frequency ranges are being proposed for 5G?
You got any idea off the top of your head what applications also use those frequencies, currently and historically?
You got any idea how deeply different frequencies penetrate biological tissues, what levels of voltages and other effects they induce, and how the effects of the power levels and frequencies used for communications compare to what is already present through other sources?
You got any idea of how the prevalence of diseases alleged to be caused by communications equipment has actually changed over time as these technologies have been implemented?
If you're not sufficiently educated to be able to answer at least some of that off the top of your head, then sorry, but that puts you in the category of the fearful ignorant susceptible to pseudoscientific gobbledegook.
Meanwhile, for anyone interested heres a piece that briefly looks into the safety issues. There's plenty more easily found with a very brief search.
Then consider: regulations require maximum signal strengths of these communications signals with zero demonstrated harmful characteristics to be in the milliwatts per unit area range. Go outside into the sun, and you are exposing yourself to UV from the sun that is known to be very harmful, at levels thousands of times higher at around 40 watts per square meter.
If a significant proportion of the general public (say >10%) have concerns (rational or not) about the mass roll-out of a particular technological innovation, for example 5G, then surely the onus is on the providers of the technology to win over enough of those with concerns to push that percentage under 10%. A clear and simple presentation of the results of a few recent (say within the last five years) well-designed animal studies (preferably not industry-funded) should do the trick – how hard can it be?
Or just go ahead with the roll-out and let the experiment proceed in real-time. There are plenty of precedents – Vioxx springs to mind.
I believe you will find less public patience for soothing fringe protestors after the current crisis. That does unfortunately mean some genuine issues will be ignored as well as outright tinfoil hattery.
Yes, this is my point. They don't disappear when shunned. What they do now (compared to the past) is radicalise. I am not unfamiliar with this community. Nek minit they're voting Trump. The numbers of people into American-style conspiracy theories in NZ seems to be growing, although I'd love to see some research on that to see if it matches my perception.
Better to find some common ground, at the same time as increasing science literacy generally in a unpatronising way.
One of the overlaps for me is that while I don't believe that 5G has anything to do with covid, I do understand the general distrust of technology especially as it is being implemented without regard for communities and nature. People who have a different world view than me parse that through anti-govt, libertarian philosophies and when that hits poor understanding of science we get communities of people fitting science erroneously to their beliefs. But the baseline of concerns about tech and the impacts on the world are not without basis.
It's political rather than scientific. Not a matter of lack of information or understanding of it.
The similarity with what led to the tea party and Chump is the positioning of technical experts and the public service as an 'elite' – therefore dismissed out of hand as having an agenda that is opposed to the interests of the righteous (white) people's heroes who push rubbish.
Engaging or compromising with that just empowers it. And they will not be doing any compromising themselves. It's like the myth that ignoring bullies stops them.
"It's like the myth that ignoring bullies stops them."
I think that works for my argument not yours.
I'm not sure who you are talking about. The people that I know personally, that live in my community, that are against 5G, are people who understand the value of compromise. They're not anti-elite. They're not the ones going out and burning cell towers, but I bet we can turn some of them into that if we try hard enough.
Who I'm talking about is that whole subculture, many of whom are not extremists or racists or whatever, but who share values with those people around key areas. Shunning them, ridiculing them, is not going to change their minds. They appear to be growing in number, and some of them are radicalising. We're kind of sheltered here in NZ, but I don't see how we are protected from the social transitions happening the UK. Give us another 9 years of fjk, I'm sure we would get there.
All "fringe protesters" are members of the public. Maybe the ‘5G fringe‘ is small and shrinking, but the proliferation of 5G sites will hardly go unnoticed. Living in city where the power cables are underground, the visual pollution alone might warrant a protest
It's interesting to contrast the cautious language used in a recent Swedish report with some dismissive comments here. I would like to see further research on the effects of 5G radiation, even after that horse has bolted.
Wireless information technology is constantly evolving and new frequency ranges will be used. The fifth generation mobile telecommunication system (5G) will be installed all over the world within the next few years. Even though there is no established mechanism for affecting health from weak radio wave exposure there is need for more research covering the novel frequency domains used for 5G. The Authority also encourage researchers to start undertaking epidemiological studies, i.e. cohort studies, in this area. https://www.stralsakerhetsmyndigheten.se/en/publications/reports/radiation-protection/2020/202004/
Thing is, a vast amount of information from studies is already available. It all points in the same direction – that microwaves used for communication do not cause harm.
Yet objectors apparently refuse to educate themselves to the fairly minimal level needed to properly understand the information, or outright refuse to acknowledge the existence and significance of all that information.
Cats have been pushing things off the edge since forever. That they haven't yet pushed everything off the edge is pretty good proof the earth isn't flat.
Yet objectors apparently refuse to educate themselves to the fairly minimal level needed to properly understand the information, or outright refuse to acknowledge the existence and significance of all that information.
That's because it's primarily a cultural issue not a science one. If we keep treating it as a science only issue then the gap between us and them widens as everyone talks past each other.
This btw is why I generally don't argue the science with antivaxxers. I will point out the issues with their science understanding and things they link to, but the issue isn't about science, it's about world view.
When your talking milliamps and milliwatts as 5 g is very low power 5g is much safer than existing cell towers ,the power wires in your street are emitting hundreds times more radiation.
There's plenty of history with the frequencies to be used for 5G
Usually in highly directed beams that just don't expose people to incident radiation. 5G cells are quite different because inevitably there sheer number of these sites will mean it becomes impossible to avoid exposure.
I've been around radio tech since I was a teenager, and I fully get that 5G is non-ionising and will not cause direct DNA damage. But that doesn't speak to subtle effects, and if nothing else living creature are incredibly complex, subtle molecular mechanisms. And as the wavelength goes down the photon energy goes up, and I'd want to see more work done to understand what may or may not be going on at a biochemical level.
And there are just enough authoritative voices out there saying similar things that I'm inclined to think the 5G industry needs to be doing more work to make it's case. Calling these concerns psuedoscience gobbledegook is the same kind of lofty liberal sneering that labelled middle American voters 'deplorables' … and look how well that worked out.
To me that all looks like caution around what you don't know for sure. Without giving much weight to what is already known and studies that have already been performed.
There have indeed been lots of studies conducted around signals in the GHz range. You remember that question I posed a while ago about how to interpret the results of studies that looked at many different factors using a significance level p<0.05? That was prompted by a 5G study looking at rats that looked at many different tissues, found one set of cells that was possibly affected, then trumpeted it as proof that 5G was harmful. Without also mentioning that the exposed rats lived significantly longer on average than the unexposed rats. That particular study is likely to end up as a textbook study in p-hacking or data-dredging.
Anderson believes land stewards will need to run agricultural models in the future which align with nature and rely considerably less on fossil fuel-derived products. As with many others interviewed for the Our Regenerative Future series, he thinks the biggest barrier to the widespread adoption of regen ag across NZ is one of mindset.
"We need to move our mechanistic mindsets and egos from domination and manipulation of nature to life affirming living system processes."
He's seeing promising moves from large international corporations, pointing to the example of dairy giant Danone, which in 2018 announced it was aiming to source 100 percent of ingredients produced in France from regenerative agriculture by 2025. Patagonia founder Yvon Chouinard is a vocal proponent of regen ag, and the company has been running pilot programmes in sourcing both food and apparel fibres from certified regenerative organic farms. With these kinds of leading examples, Anderson hopes more multi-nationals will begin to nurture the 'whole' through regenerative agriculture.
Refreshing eh Red? Been several like programs on Country Calendar. A few decades ago the idea of protecting the soil by not ploughing was proposed but largely rejected. Maybe its time is coming.
Tough. It's when the big corporates get on board that the real shifts happen. Small individual operators are admirable pioneers, but if you want the numbers to shift you need the big boys to get into the game.
Don't need the "big boys" if they're devastating the local environment, riding roughshod over local communities, as they've done in India. We need their money, however. Democracy is the answer, not the likes of Musk and Gates.
And in the aggregate the locals can be just as conservative and destructive of the local environment as any big multinational.
Nor are all corporates the same, and when they do head in the right direction, even if it isn't far enough, fast enough, or politically pure enough to satisfy everyone, I'm still inclined to read it as an encouraging, positive move. Once you get some real momentum going, capitalism just might save the planet yet.
And in the aggregate the locals can be just as conservative and destructive of the local environment as any big multinational.
You think the local small farmers in India and Africa are "just as destructive" as, say, Monsanto? You are not serious, surely.
capitalism just might save the planet yet.
Like it did in Ecuador and Chile and West Papua? You're not talking about capitalism. You're advocating massive, state-subsidized corporations displacing local farmers completely.
You think the local small farmers in India and Africa are "just as destructive" as, say, Monsanto? You are not serious, surely.
Subsistence level, low productivity farmers tend to clear a lot of land and have big impacts on local wildlife. People forget that three quarters of all de-forestation occurred before industrialisation, that we've been causing megafauna extinctions for millenia. There is nothing especially virtuous about 'local people' living in near poverty, and most of them leap at the chance to move to a better life at the first offered chance.
Nor am I going to defend everything big ag corporates like Monsanto have done either, but it has to be noted that 200 yrs ago 95% of people lived in rural settings working directly in primary industries. Now we have a population roughly seven times greater and yet in the developed world only 5% of people work to produce all the food we need. On the whole that's a pretty remarkable story.
So when big industry players like Danone show they're receptive to lifting their game even further … then I'm counting this as progress. Even when it offends the unreconstructed hippie still lurking in my soul
So are you suggesting Danone's expressed intention in 2020 to move toward regenerative ag sourced products is also the 'opposite of reputable and responsible'?
Or maybe the world is a bit more complex than one controversy from one country almost a decade ago. And no babies died.
Careful Mozza, Vandana Shiva spoke in Planet of the Humans. One of the few that saw that the emperor was wearing no clothes i.e. how good is an electric car if coal is being burnt to recharge it?
how good is an electric car if coal is being burnt to recharge it?
Technically that's been well understood right from the outset. The assumption was that we'd add the new electricity capacity needed to power EV's with renewables.
It's not a bad plan, but I'm not convinced it's a sufficient one. It's not that EV's are a bad idea, it's that we really haven't paid enough attention to the whole story.
Renewables work really well in some contexts, and it looks like you've gotten your's working well. Australia and New Zealand are very fortunate that solar and wind renewables make good economic and technical sense … but globally the case is much less obvious. They have their limits, and we should be a lot more clear eyed about that.
Red logistics More and More European countries are putting Solar farms in places where land is not usable.from 2015 till 2019 there has been a massive expansion ,home use and industrial use as well.Motorway roundabouts factory roofs home roofs both photovoltaic water and heat exchanges I noted during extensive Travels .Even in Germany which is colder and has less sunshine than us.
I appreciate that gsays made the sheeples comment. Apologies if you felt it was directed at you. I could have directed that specifically to gsays in a separate comment.
how good is an electric car if coal is being burnt to recharge it?
Better than you'd imagine.
Energy efficient. EVs convert over 77% of the electrical energy from the grid to power at the wheels. Conventional gasoline vehicles only convert about 12%–30% of the energy stored in gasoline to power at the wheels.
Joe 90 using coal generated electricity is 8 times more efficient.Than pumping gas.When all the logistics of pumping oil out of the ground with all the Transport refining and distribution is taken into account.
An EV running entirely off the filthiest coal-fired electricity is still cleaner than a dino-juice burner.
A Tesla Model X will do about 5.6km (open road) to 10 km (round town) per kWh. The worst coal emits around 900g CO2/kWh. So a Tesla Model X powered solely by the nastiest coal emits between 90 and 160 grams CO2 per kilometre. Real life electricity generation mixes are less than half those emissions, unless you're in Poland.
A BMW X5 is a bit smaller, a lot lighter, and way lower performance (except for autobahn top speed). In equivalent situations the X5 emissions are at best around 210 g/km, and closer to 300 is more likely.
"An EV running entirely off the filthiest coal-fired electricity is still cleaner than a dino-juice burner."
This is largely irrelevant in a climate crisis if the number of cars keeps increasing (they do), and if the need to drop GHG far outreaches the savings from petrol to coal powered EV (which it does).
But it is relevant in the context of a discussion about a film that implies there's no difference or that EVs are worse so that people may as well just go ahead and burn the fossil fuel.
For people that take CC seriously, two of the drivers of the push back against EVs is that EVs aren't sustainable in any meaningful sense of the word, and we're too late to convert everything to renewable power driven if we want to drop GHGs. So the argument against the film isn't the one you made, because the one you made doesn't actually prevent climate catastrophe, which is part of what I suspect Moore was on about (maybe. Haven't seen it, but did read Monbiot's piece).
For what it's worth, the only fault I could pick with the film on a single viewing was the clumsy presentation of consumption that suggested population was the basic problem – ie, it didn't really differentiate the consumption of a peasant from that of a billionaire.
I've read quite a few of the so-called critiques that are flying around, and my take-away is basically that people do not like the films message, and so would rather bury it and maintain their comfortable idea that they can have their cake and eat it too. ~shrug~
edit. George Monbiot’s piece is probably the most level headed piece I’ve read, but it’s still a hatchet job. For example, Jeff Gibbs was at a single event and commented only one “leader” (Vandana Shiva) rejected biomass. Which you wouldn’t get from Monbiot who writes – But when the film’s presenter and director, Jeff Gibbs, claims, “I found only one environmental leader willing to reject biomass and biofuels”, he can’t have been looking very far.
"and my take-away is basically that people do not like the films message, and so would rather bury it and maintain their comfortable idea that they can have their cake and eat it too."
That would be my guess. Monbiot would rather the whole world was vegan rather than powering down. His piece is useful, but it's disappointing if he is basically running propagande lines as you report. Same shit on all sides, so sick of this.
I've read quite a few of the so-called critiques that are flying around, and my take-away is basically that people do not like the films message,
I've said several times here that I agree with the fundamental message …. that a lot of what passes as 'green' really isn't really, and in particular both solar and wind renewables while useful, have some important limitations that have all too often been glossed over.
So from that aspect yes there will be quite a few people who don't like the message.
Sadly however the film does make a number of technical mistakes and misdirections that had me shaking my head when I watched it. Handing your opponents easy ways to undermine the message is never smart. Monbiot traverses the territory with practiced ease.
Worse still at the end it really doesn't have anything constructive to say. Which I'm sure suits all the catastrophe addicts who want nothing more than some almighty genocidal collapse to vindicate their dark desires.
Sadly however the film does make a number of technical mistakes and misdirections that had me shaking my head when I watched it
Such as? Because apart from the unfortunate suggestion that energy use is a population issue ( a ‘glitch’ acknowledged and corrected in subsequent interviews), there were no glaring technical flaws caught my attention.
Monbiot traverses the territory with practiced ease.
But Monbiot shouldn't be a natural opponent, and as said above, he was "less than honest" in his Guardian piece.
Lastly, I'm fucked if I understand why Moore et al should be expected to dress up a truth with some message of false hope in any circumstances, but especially when their film is largely about exposing false hopes that have been peddled by some environmental organisations and some of their self appointed leaders.
The technical mistakes have been linked to repeatedly. They can be readily found with a few seconds searching.
I'm fucked if I understand why Moore et al should be expected to dress up a truth with some message of false hope in any circumstances,
Only because the various green movements have irrationally and obdurately rejected the obvious alternative path forward that I've also outlined here. Fucked if I can be bothered repeating myself on this topic yet again.
As I said, it seems important to quite a few peoples these days to insist there is no hope.
If we just stack electric vehicles, on top of existing internal combustion engine ones, there will obviously be no gain. Currently energy use is growing faster than sustainable substitution.
A paradigm shift on how we use transport is required.
If we replace every ICE on the planet with an EV (current and future) and don't reduce GHGs enough, we will still fry. I remain skeptical that it's possible to transition now. If we had started in the 80s, maybe. Best bet atm, is that a rapid shift to EVs will be quickly followed by the desperately neede paradigm shift away from growth economies, and towards systems that are actually sustainable (which EV BAU patently isn't). So, yes, EVs are obviously better than ICEs, in a reductionist, isolated sense. In terms of how they fit into the natural world, the only measurements that matter are if they drop GHGs now, and don't create ecological problems going forward. Hence it's not sufficient to measure ICE to EV (coal or renewable powered). We also have to look at quantity, cradle to grave, and how societies as whole function. We're not there yet and I suspect this is what Moore is pointing to.
Replacing as many ICE, vehicles as we can with EV's, and more efficient forms of transport, even diesel trains and ships emit a lot less carbon per ton km, than road vehicles, though electric is better still, all play a part in reducing green house gases.
It is not green washing. Just physics,
There is no magical fix. Just a whole lot of carbon reducing actions, technologies and changes, which together add up to a major reduction in green house gas production.
Given the reaction to the rather small and temporary changes, in comparison, for covid, I'm not optimistic about Governments doing anything meaningful. They would rather spend trillions on imaginary threats from other countries than on the real threat from AGW. The irony is that the armies would be less needed, if we minimised AGW, helping the global South to advance with more sustainable energy and food supplies, going forward.
Instead of borrowing to pay the third world to make plastic widgets for us, so they can buy their way out of poverty, questionably effective. spend some of the trillions that is used for military defences on getting the surplus food the West produces, to them. And on allowing them to advance with more sustainable energy and resource sources.
Currently the global North, is simply transferring emissions to plants making products for them in the Global South. A fudge. Like Germany closing nuclear power plants, while importing nuclear power across the border.
Charging an electric car from a coal power plant is obviously not the ideal, but it is still less carbon emissions than an internal combustion engine in a car. Simple economies of scale. Just as a large solar power plant is more efficient than individual solar panels on roof tops.
One of the points is electric cars aren't going to save us as a species.We can't keep enjoying the benefits of industrial (fossil fueled) agriculture, nor carry on our wasteful resource ridden lives.
I see these EVs as a similar thing to the plastic bag ban. It lets the sheeple think they have done their bit.
Why would anyone want to waste an hour and 40 minutes when credible experts who have watched say it's full of misdirection, out-of-date information and outright falsehoods? Especially when just a few minutes of research verifies that the experts are correct and the film is wrong.
Here's yet another review, this time from George Monbiot, that takes just a few minutes to read:
As just about every reviewer points out, biomass for electricity is a tiny part of electricity generation in the few places it gets used. It's very likely to go away very quickly if a bit of rationality starts getting applied to GHG emissions and electricity generation. That the film apparently gives it so much attention is one of the more egregious bits of misdirection in the film. As such, the film is a step away from rationality, and a boon to fossil fuel suppliers that benefit from the misdirection and confusion.
No, I'm not interested in wasting 17 minutes on further misdirection. Video as a medium works very well for playing on emotions and thereby misleading people. But it's crap for conveying good information. As well as being painfully slow.
I didn't watch the film because recognised experts pointed out many flaws and errors in the film, that I am able to independently verify.
It is indeed theoretically possible there are important messages that all of those experts missed. But sit through an hour and forty minutes of what has already been proven to be a lot of garage in the hope that there might be some nuggets they have missed? No thanks.
Especially not on the sayso of some internet random that can't even point to that nugget, but instead points to a piece of garbage that has already been analysed as garbage. Nor do Gibbs or Moore have any history that gives me any reason to believe they may have any unusual insight into renewable energy which might make it worth taking a chance on committing the time.
The said reckons are in denial and tend to offer up smears rather than honest engagement. I've given one fairly typical example of a writer ripping things out of context to generate doubt (The example of George Monbiot in a response to a comment by Weka a few comments up thread).
A common criticism is that the electric car footage was from ten years back, as though the basic message that running an electric anything from energy that emits carbon (ie – the energy for charging) isn't really 'green' only carried water ten years ago.
And I'm buggered if I can see where the whole "in bed with the fossil industry" criticism comes from. Anyway…
There was a virus from a pangolin knocked emissions on the head short term, but we decided we'd take a punt at going back to business as usual because we really, really like playing the capitalist game of "pretend and extend". 👿
Having read his Guardian article and the links within it I see another intelligent person kinda missing some of the points.
The biomass is ok, it just uses wood pellets… The notion of burning the earths lungs as a 'renewable' energy source is baffling. Capatilism has backed it so must be a winner.
Maybe because Moore is involved it has got folk antsy. Perhaps there is an Assangeness to him, they both piss off important people.
If electric cars could be manufactured using sources of energy that were zero carbon, and then charged by energy sources that were zero carbon, then they might be a part of a solution. The same goes for solar panels and windmills and anything else.
I dare say it's theoretically possible to produce a solar panel in a factory that is entirely powered by non carbon emitting energy, and that sources raw materials for the panels using energy from zero carbon sources, and that distributes, constructs and maintains those panels using no carbon emitting sources of energy.
That still leaves out many factors such as the degradation caused by any mining for materials (whether or not that mining's done with energy that's emissionless).
We need to use substantially less energy than we do now, and switch what we will still use to come from emission free sources. (And hope like hell that the current excess of some trillion tonnes of CO2 we’ve already kicked into the atmosphere doesn’t give us and the planet too much of a kicking over coming centuries)
Pretending that windmills with their huge concrete platforms and solar and whatever else can be rolled out over the space of a few decades to replace fossil and other deleterious sources of energy such that we can carry on "as is", when energy consumption is rising faster than so-called 'green' energies are being deployed, and the yearly increase in fossil consumption outstrips any increase in so-called 'green' energies, is utter delusion.
In terms of energy, there are zero carbon sources. The wind, the sun and water are obviously zero carbon. Capturing that energy in a way that doesn't create carbon is the trick.
k – so there are about one trillion excess tonnes of CO2, courtesy of us, floating around the biosphere that has been building since the 19th C, and we add about 30 or 40 billion tonnes to that total every year.
It takes natural processes many hundreds of years to sequester that carbon. Planting trees won't, doesn't and can't cut it.
Or put another way – thanks to the joys of exponential growth, more than half of all the CO2 in the biosphere related to human activity throughout history has been spewed there in my lifetime. And governments acknowledged there was a problem about half way through my life (1991)…and have utterly failed to do anything by way of cutting emissions.
Which is really smart given the problem is cumulative. (I actually sometimes wonder if there are people who assume the world will return to a non-warmed state in a short period of time if and when we stop emitting carbon)
The only question is how hot do we think we can go before we stop? Or are we just going to let physics call the shots and hope we survive?
On the current trajectory, be prepared for billions of deaths, billions of climate refugees, and an economic fallout that will make Covid look like a minor chill!
I hear what you're saying, and would agree – except that if we literally did nothing it would go a long way as a first step. What's been the estimated drop in emissions off the back of "every bugger" locking down?
Processes can be carbon neutral though, and we're not yet trying to achieve that in any real sense.
If I burn firewood (carbon emissions) and I plant trees that sequester that, then carbon neutral. So far, so obvious. If I use regenerative farming, I can sequester more than I emit with the burning. If I buy a woodstove that was manufactured using renewables that themselves are not carbon neutral (cradle to grave), best make sure that that woodstove will last hundreds of years, not 20 or 50, and that it is *super efficient. Likewise the chainsaw.
Use the wood heat in multiple ways (space heating, hot water, cooking, drying clothes and so on). It's those things that reduce and conserve energy in other ways. When we look at the whole system, we can design it to be carbon neutral at worst, or a carbon sink at best. But we do that for things that are essential (food, shelter, heat, medicine, not $2 shops and a new iphone every year).
Some things will always break the bank, we can mitigate that in other ways, But again, only for stuff that really matters.
Now look at EVs in that context. Which EVs actually matter? How can we design the whole system so that it's not polluting and extractive beyond what nature can manage? (Where is all the metal going to keep coming from?).
While emissions from the US and Europe have contributed the most to the buildup of GHGs so far, and are still grossly disproportionate per capita emitters. they are actually slowly falling. The increases are coming from developing countries improving the living standards of their citizens. Shown in graphical form here with just a little bit of scrolling down from where it opens:
You interested in telling them they have to hold back on improving the lives of their citizens? I'm not. But I am interested in developing ways for them to improve their lives while avoiding the mistakes we made that have dumped the planet in the shit. Engineering-wise, that means renewable energy that is cheaper and better than fossil-fuels, and life-improving stuff like fridges and indoor climate control etc that needs less energy while performing better.
Yes, it is possible for all land-based energy users to convert to renewable electric, or in a very few cases involving very high process heat temperatures, hydrogen (or it may work out better to use some kind of biofuel in a very few applications). It won't even be particularly difficult for most users. It's just a matter of cost, and fossils are still cheap because they get to dump their hazardous waste into the atmosphere for free.
As RedLogix keeps hammering, it all boils down to availability of low cost energy-dense, dispatchable on demand sources. Historically the only practical choice has been fossil, but the advancements in renewables over the last decade means we can shake our fossil dependence as quickly as we choose to.
The only application I can bring to mind that has no readily available substitute for the energy density of liquid hydrocarbon fuel is long-haul aviation. But that's off the menu for a while anyway.
Historically the only practical choice has been fossil…
Nope. The industrial revolution was initially powered by water. Even with the advent of the coal fired steam engine, mills stuck with water because of better efficiency and lower cost.
The shift to steam was a somewhat complex story that arguably came down to a desire or need to control the then nascent working class.
The stories out of Stuff and the herald complaining about the Governments response were to be expected even if they are wrong.
The one thing I have noticed about the Governments response is that right from the start they assumed that a large portion of the population is as thick as pigshit and that the advice and rules needed to be very clear and precise. And that is why thousands and thousands of Kiwi families are not holding funerals for mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters and children.
If you hear anyone complaining, just tell them to shut up and if they still have a problem tell them to come and see me and all my over 70 mates.
Most of the new cases in Australia have come from a single cluster in Mebourne – a meat works. Shouldn't have happened as the employer had already been told that 2 of the workers had tested positive some time ago.It's a lesson in just how fast a cluster can explode without constant attention. Otherwise, 5 of the states and territories have had no new cases, WA and the NT for 2 weeks, now, so not that bad, just a bit more varied than NZ. Think with what JA has said about Level 2 restrictions in NZ, all the East coast states here will actually be more restrictive in comparison.
A lot of the population is as thick as pigshit and the advice and rules needed to be very clear and precise, exact. And then some of them, and others who aren't as thick as pigshit, deny and defy the advice and rules.
Act like babies then complain about being treated like babies. Say 'trust us' and show they aren't to be trusted. Say they'll do everything right then complain when there's a request to dob in 'independent souls' like themselves.
If it is a minority putting this plan at risk then it's (subjectively) seeming like a significantly large minority getting bigger by the day, and a significant amount of them seem to live in my suburb. If so many people are completely incapable of basic common courtesy just using a footpath then why the hell are we bothering. I finally stopped being 'kind' today and screamed at a couple who didn't feel the need to stop hogging the entire path and briefly single file to allow space to pass. A near daily occurrence now.
"If you hear anyone complaining, just tell them to shut up and if they still have a problem tell them to come and see me and all my over 70 mates"
Sounds terrifying – that should shut them up! Though maybe not as terrifying as your experience of being in the front row when the custodians of "the economy" go looking for human sacrifices to keep it all running.
They had to assume from the start, that anything over one syllable would be too complicated for our, so called, Journalists. As has been proven.
It is even worse when people who are supposedly competent, to run a farm or business, seem incapable of working out and comprehending simple, safety procedures.
The one thing I have noticed about the Governments response is that right from the start they assumed that a large portion of the population is as thick as pigshit and that the advice and rules needed to be very clear and precise.
When your target audience is the whole public, all communication needs to work for people without English as a first language, with impaired learning, etc.
Whereas the truly ignorant have shown us they can miss the point no matter what efforts are made. Too many of them have columns and shows.
The one thing I have noticed about the Governments response is that right from the start they assumed that a large portion of the population is as thick as pigshit and that the advice and rules needed to be very clear and precise.
An absence of sophistry,was (an is still) needed.The only solution is isolate,and eliminate.We do not need great yarns on the R0 number,the genome,its origin etc.The formal response was to quarantine NZ ,raise the drawbridge and let those who are unclean stay outside the camp (or under constraint).
Those who are aspiring for business as usual (or a return to BAU) are either in denial,or illiterate (here we define illiteracy as an inability to learn )
The unsurprising fact of both simple measures,and simple communication in a complex world,is they have worked.
I see the universities are wanting to bring their overseas students back ( & put them through quarantine).
If this gets any traction I'd want to see a level of quarantine offshore first( so they don't get into our health system with all those risks) plus the border quarantine here. I would absolutely not want any quarantine arrangements that have been privatised, outsourced etc. where there is a profit motive in running them and the usual inefficient oversight that would make it high risk.
"In recent days the Tasmanian state premier, Peter Gutwein, and the New Zealand foreign minister, Winston Peters, have been thinking aloud and enthusiastically about accelerating the bubble extension between the two places. They’re on to something. And it goes deeper than our relative success in stamping out Covid-19."
Temperate climate with rain forests. "AFL is rugby crossed with ballet and improvised dance. It’s harder than rugby in the sense it’s 360-degree. It’s easier in that it doesn’t have full-on forwards." Sheesh.. 😵 I'll try to keep that in mind, but won't be easy.
"Tassie was locked in a bitter ecological war between the Greens (which they invented, by the way) and three guys who went to private school together and loved chopping down trees for no profit." Good movie to come, huh?
And "the New Zealand accent for which I was mercilessly shamed for 15 years is now sexy to anyone under 40." Sic a sociologist onto that pronto. We need to know why.
"Tassie has a walkway in a forest and a slide into a swamp called Dismal swamp. It went broke actually. That’s what happens when a government funded business tries to do tourism. But we’re working at it." Sounds like they need a PPP. 🙄
I have long advocated for us to buy tasmania. mainland aussies dont want it. we could get it fairly cheaply. the advantages of having a large offshore island to dump unwanted waste etc on would be worth the monthly repayments.
"Everybody out on the farm if they're actually honest has to admit that with the dollar being far further down than it was under the National Party – for heaven's sake it was about 80 cents US under the National Party sometimes – well we've got it at a level far more remunerative for farming."
"We're dealing with the Three Waters and the changes there will be of enormous assistance to farmers. We've made a commitment to ensure that the change was a change we would pay for – not them."
So if you know a guy who wears a black singlet & gumboots, see if the good news has trickled down to him yet.
Act senior party members accused of sexual harrasment of junior female party members.Tough on Crime Party needs to turn itself in to a private prison and take full responsibility for their actions.They will be paying for their own prosecution and imprisonment.
"New Zealand's recycled plastic is shipped overseas to Malaysia, Thailand or the Philippines, but a proposed centre would reprocess much of it in Manawatū. The proposal would curb pricey shipping fees and importing plastic back into the country."
"The equipment is commercially available. The land is owned by the council and already used for recycling. The project will collect all grades of plastic, including agricultural plastic, from the lower North Island. The plastic will then be cleaned, sorted and reprocessed into pellets or flakes. The finished product can be mixed with virgin plastic and used for normal plastic manufacture."
this is worth following up on. we need to get properly serious about recycling ,and leaving it to the mythical free market is bollocks. also needs to happen with tyres, its a huge problem.
Could be a good call. Investment at $25 mill is less than that flag referendum and I assume it would run at least at breakeven. I'd be happy to subscribe to any capital raising for it. Even at say 2.5% its more than most banks are paying. Be good if they had a bit of extra capital as well – so that where possible we transfer to bio degradable type products and recycle those to take us into the furture.
The Conspiracy Theory Handbook pdf talked about in the Skeptical Science link in the sidebar is really worth reading. Following the sidebar takes a few clicks, the final download button is on this page:
Have you watched Saager's propaganda vid boosting the neocon's favourite CIA-backed terror group?
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ENJETI: So, if the Iranian regime were to fall and Ms. Rajavi she was able to govern, could she be able to govern during a transition period? Do you think she could prevent the chaos?
GIULIANI: Well, what they do, what they—these are the questions of course we ask them all the time, and I’ve seen evidence that they have a functioning government-in-exile. They evaluate the problems in Iran every day. They are enormously active in communicating within Iran. They remind me of the Voice of American in one aspect during the Cold War, which used to broadcast into =
You're correct in your assessment of his character, Joe. I can't understand how anyone with a heart and a conscience, leave alone an intellect such as Enjeti clearly possesses, can have anything to do with groups like MEK, or AIPAC, or the Republican/Democratic Party.
His commentary on American party politics, however, is astute and far superior to anything on CNN or Fox or MSNBC.
The most transparent president ever is asking the courts to block details of an investigation that exonerated him.
The Trump administration on Thursday asked the Supreme Court to shield redacted grand jury materials related to former special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia probe from the Democratic-led House.
The 37-page request, filed by the Justice Department, asks the justices to temporarily block the release of transcripts and other documents that Democratic lawmakers initially requested as part of the House impeachment inquiry into President Trump.
The move comes after a federal appeals court in Washington ruled earlier this year that the administration could not keep under wraps certain materials stemming from Mueller's 22-month investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
The Wall Street ticker is carrying on like not much is going on. Why aren't stocks tanking? Why haven't McDonalds, Starbucks and Vegas casinos got leprosy?
When Warren Buffet is liquidating, turning his holdings into cash and gold, something heavy is going down. Normally it costs $2k+ to sit in on Warren's annual address, in Corona times he made it free. He didn't look well.
Part of it is valuations are based on how much money investors expect companies to make, which partly depends on how fast the Repugs and Adderolf Covitler can shovel alleged relief funds at companies instead of at those that actually need them and will spend them.
Part of it is hopium for a V-shaped recovery, egged on by the Coppertone Caligula's pronouncements and focus on reopening the economy. Never mind that sick and dead people don't do much for the economy.
Part of it is there's nowhere else particularly attractive to shift money to.
Ha yes, a safe investment today would require floating the Red Cross.
Gold and cash is safe, for now. I try to parasite onto the thoughts of people that know more than me. The King of what shares to buy when has just sold everything, cashed up. You don't need to be a share Guru to read the message.
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Gary Judd writes – The Dean of the law school at the Auckland University of Technology is someone called Khylee Quince. I have been sent her social media posting in which she has, over the LawNews headline “Senior King’s Counsel files complaint about compulsory tikanga Maori studies for ...
Cleo Paskal writes – WASHINGTON, D.C.: ‘Many of us have received phone calls from [the opposing camp] telling them if they join the camp they will be given projects for their wards and $300,000 [around US$35,000] each’, says former Malaita Premier Daniel Suidani. The elections in Solomon Islands aren’t ...
With hindsight, it was inevitable that (a) Hamas would agree to the ceasefire deal brokered by Egypt and Qatar and that ( b) Israel would then immediately launch attacks on Rafah, regardless. We might have hoped the concessions made by Hamas would cause Israel to desist from slaughtering thousands more ...
Placards and mourners outside the Kilbirnie Mosque following the Christchurch terror attack: MSD has terminated the Kaiwhakaoranga service, which has been used by 415 families since the attacks. Photo: Lynn GrievesonTL;DR: The Government’s pledge to only cut ‘back office’ staff rather than ‘frontline’ services is on increasingly shaky ground, with ...
There’s been a few smaller public transport announcements over the last week or so that I thought I’d cover in a single post. Fareshare I’ve long called for Auckland Transport to offer a way to enable employer-subsidised public transport options. The need for this took on even more importance ...
Parliament’s speaker had no option but to refer Green MP Julie Anne Genter to the Privileges Committee for her behaviour in the House last Wednesday evening. The incident, in which she crossed the floor to wave a book and yell at National Minister Matt Doocey, reflects poorly on Genter and ...
On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
Who likes being sneered at? Nobody. Worse yet, when the sneerer has their facts all wrong, and might well be an idiot.The sneer in question is The adults are in charge now, and it is a sneer offered in retort to criticism of this new Government, no matter how well ...
When in government, Labour pushed to extend the Parliamentary term to four years, to reduce accountability and our ability to vote out a bad government. And now, they're trying to do it through the member's ballot, with a Four-Year Parliamentary Term Legislation Bill. The bill at least requires a referendum ...
A ballot for a single Member's Bill was held today, and the following bill was drawn: Public Works (Prohibition of Compulsory Acquisition of Māori Land) Amendment Bill (Hūhana Lyndon) The bill would prevent the government from stealing Māori land in breach of Te Tiriti o Waitangi. It ...
Simeon Brown, alongside Wayne Brown, is favouring a political figleaf now in exchange for loading up tens of millions in extra interest costs on Auckland ratepayers. Photo: Lynn GrievesonTL;DR: Ratings agency Standard & Poor’s is pushing back hard at suggestions from Local Government Minister Simeon Brown and Mayor Wayne Brown ...
Buzz from the Beehive One headline-grabber from the Beehive yesterday was the OECD’s advice that the government must bring the Budget deficit under control or face higher interest rates. Another was the announcement of a $1.9 billion “investment” in Corrections over the next four years. In the best interests of ...
Chris Trotter writes – Had Zheng He’s fleet sailed east, not west, in the early Fifteenth Century, how different our world would be. There is little reason to suppose that the sea-going junks of the Ming Dynasty, among the largest and most sophisticated sailing vessels ever constructed, would have failed ...
David Farrar writes – Two articles give a useful contrast in balance. Both seek to be neutral explainer articles. This one in the Herald on Social Investment covers the pros and cons nicely. It links to critical pieces and talks about aspects that failed and aspects that are more ...
The tikanga regulations will compel law students to be taught that a system which does not conform with the rule of law is nevertheless law which should be observed and applied…Gary Judd KC writes – I have made a complaint to Parliament’s Regulation ...
The future of Te Huia, the train between Hamilton and Auckland, has been getting a lot of attention recently as current funding for it is only in place till the end of June. The government initially agreed to a five year trial, through to April 2026, but that was subject ...
TL;DR: Hamas has just agreed to Israel’s ceasefire plan. Nelson hospital’s rebuild has been cut back to save money. The OECD suggests New Zealand break up network monopolies, including in electricity. PM Christopher Luxon’s news conference on a prison expansion announcement last night was his messiest yet.Here’s my top six ...
A homicide in Ponsonby, a manhunt with a killer on the run. The nation’s leader stands before a press conference reassuring a frightened nation that he’ll sort it out, he’ll keep them safe, he’ll build some new prison spaces.Sorry what? There’s a scary dude on the run with a gun ...
Hi,I know it’s been awhile since there’s been any Webworm merch — and today that all changes!Over the last four months, I’ve been working with New Zealand artist Jess Johnson to create a series of t-shirts, caps and stickers that are infused with Webworm DNA — and as of right ...
The OECD’s chief economist yesterday laid it on the line for the new Government: bring the deficit under control or face higher Reserve Bank interest rates for longer. And to bring the deficit under control, she meant not borrowing for tax cuts. But there was more. Without policy changes—introducing a ...
After a hiatus of over four months Selwyn Manning and I finally got it together to re-start the “A View from Afar” podcast series. We shall see how we go but aim to do 2 episodes per month if possible. … Continue reading → ...
In 2008, the UK Parliament passed the Climate Change Act 2008. The law established a system of targets, budgets, and plans, with inbuilt accountability mechanisms; the aim was to break the cycle of empty promises and replace it with actual progress towards emissions reduction. The law was passed with near-universal ...
Buzz from the Beehive Local Water Done Well – let’s be blunt – is a silly name, but the first big initiative to put it into practice has gone done well. This success is reflected in the headline on an RNZ report:District mayors welcome Auckland’s new water deal with ...
This is a re-post from Yale Climate ConnectionsA farmworker cleans the solar panels of a solar water pump in the village of Jagadhri, Haryana Country, India. (Photo credit: Prashanth Vishwanathan/ IWMI) Decisions made in India over the next few years will play a key role in global ...
Lindsay Mitchell writes – The Children’s Minister, Karen Chhour, intends to repeal Section 7AA from the Oranga Tamariki Act 1989 because it creates conflict between claimed Crown Treaty obligations and the child’s best interests. In her words, “Oranga Tamariki’s governing principles and its act should be colour ...
Geoffrey Miller writes – The gloves are off. That might seem to be the undertone of surprisingly tough talk from New Zealand’s foreign and trade ministers. Winston Peters, the foreign minister, may be facing legal action after making allegations about former Australian foreign minister Bob Carr on Radio New Zealand. ...
Brian Easton writes – This is about the time that the Treasury will be locking up its economic forecasts to be published in the 2024 Budget Economic and Fiscal Update (BEFU) on budget day, 30 May. I am not privy to what they will be (I will report on them ...
TL;DR:Winston Peters is reported to have won a budget increase for MFAT. David Seymour wanted his Ministry of Regulation to be three times bigger than the Productivity Commission. Simeon Brown is appointing a Crown Monitor to Watercare to protect the Claytons Crown Guarantee he had to give ratings agencies ...
The gloves are off. That might seem to be the undertone of surprisingly tough talk from New Zealand’s foreign and trade ministers. Winston Peters, the foreign minister, may be facing legal action after making allegations about former Australian foreign minister Bob Carr on Radio New Zealand. Carr had made highly ...
I could be a florist'Round the corner from Rye LaneI'll be giving daisies to craziesBut, baby, I'll wrap you up real safe Oh, I can give you flowers At the end of every dayFor the center of your table, a rainbowIn case you have people 'round to stay Depending on ...
TL;DR: The six key events to watch in Aotearoa-NZ’s political economy in the week to May 12 include:PM Christopher Luxon is scheduled to hold a post-Cabinet news conference at 4 pm today. Finance Minister Nicola Willis will give a pre-budget speech on Thursday.Parliament sits from Question Time at 2pm on ...
The price of the foreign affairs “reset” is now becoming apparent, with Defence set to get a funding boost in the Budget. Finance Minister Nicola Willis has confirmed that it will be one of the few votes, apart from Health and Education and possibly Police, which will get an increase ...
A listing of 26 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, April 28, 2024 thru Sat, May 4, 2024. Story of the week "It’s straight out of Big Tobacco’s playbook. In fact, research by John Cook and his colleagues ...
Yesterday I received come lovely feedback following my Star Wars themed newsletter. A few people mentioned they’d enjoyed reading the personal part at the beginning.I often begin newsletters with some memories, or general thoughts, before commencing the main topic. This hopefully sets the mood and provides some context in which ...
April 30 was going to be the day we’d be calling Mum from London to wish her a happy birthday. Then it became the day we would be going to St. Paul's at Evensong to remember her. The aim of the cathedral builders was to find a way to make their ...
Rob MacCulloch writes – Can’t remember the last book by a Kiwi author you read? Think the NZ government should spend less on the arts in favor of helping the homeless? If so, as far as Newsroom is concerned, you probably deserve to be called a cultural ignoramus ...
Eric Crampton writes – Grudges are bad. Better to move on. But it can be fun to keep a couple of really trivial ones, so you’re not tempted to have other ones. For example, because of the rootkit fiasco of 2005, no Sony products in our household. ...
A new report warns an estimated third of the adult population have unmet need for health care.Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāHere’s the six key things I learned about Aotaroa’s political economy this week around housing, climate and poverty:Politics - Three opinion polls confirmed support for PM Christopher Luxon ...
Today is May the fourth. Which was just a regular day when my mother took me to see the newly released Star Wars at the Odeon in Rotorua. The queue was right around the corner. Some years later this day became known as Star Wars Day, the date being a ...
Buzz from the Beehive Much more media attention is being paid to something Winston Peters said about former Australian Foreign Minister Bob Carr than to a speech he delivered to the New Zealand China Council. One word is missing from the speech: AUKUS. But AUKUS loomed large in his considerations ...
Is the economy in another long stagnation? If so, why?This is about the time that the Treasury will be locking up its economic forecasts to be published in the 2024 Budget Economic and Fiscal Update (BEFU) on budget day, 30 May. I am not privy to what they will be ...
The annual list of who's been bribing our politicians is out, and journalists will no doubt be poring over it to find the juiciest and dirtiest bribes. The government's fast-track invite list is likely to be a particular focus, and we already know of one company on the list which ...
In the weeks after the October 7 Hamas attacks on Southern Israel I wrote about the possible 2nd, 3rd and even 4th order effects of the conflict. These included new fronts being opened in the West Bank (with Hamas), Golan … Continue reading → ...
Peter Dunne writes – It is one of the oldest truisms that there is never a good time for MPs to get a pay rise. This week’s announcement of pay raises of around 2.8% backdated to last October could hardly have come at a worse time, with the ...
David Farrar writes – Newshub reports: Newshub can reveal a fresh allegation of intimidation against Green MP Julie-Anne Genter. Genter is subject to a disciplinary process for aggressively waving a book in the face of National Minister Matt Doocey in the House – but it’s not the first time ...
The Treasury has published a paper today on the global productivity slowdown and how it is playing out in New Zealand: The productivity slowdown: implications for the Treasury’s forecasts and projections. The Treasury Paper examines recent trends in productivity and the potential drivers of the slowdown. Productivity for the whole economy ...
Winston Peters’ comments about former Australian foreign minister look set to be an ongoing headache for both him and Luxon. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The podcast above of the weekly ‘hoon’ webinar for subscribers features co-hosts and , along with regular guests on Gaza and ...
These puppet strings don't pull themselvesYou're thinking thoughts from someone elseHow much time do you think you have?Are you prepared for what comes next?The debating chamber can be a trying place for an opposition MP. What with the person in charge, the speaker, typically being an MP from the governing ...
The land around Lyme Regis, where Meryl Streep once stood, in a hood, on the Cobb, is falling into the sea.MerylThe land around Lyme Regis, around the Cobb that made it rich, has always been falling slowly but surely into the sea. Read more ...
Photo by Jari Hytönen on UnsplashIt’s that new day of the week (Thursday rather than Friday) when and I co-host our ‘hoon’ webinar with paying subscribers to The Kākā for an hour at 5 pm. Jump on this link on YouTube Livestream for our chat about the week’s news ...
Buzz from the Beehive Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters was bound to win headlines when he set out his thinking about AUKUS in his speech to the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs. The headlines became bigger when – during an interview on RNZ’s Morning Report today – he criticised ...
The Post reports on how the government is refusing to release its advice on its corrupt Muldoonist fast-track law, instead using the "soon to be publicly available" refusal ground to hide it until after select committee submissions on the bill have closed. Fast-track Minister Chris Bishop's excuse? “It's not ...
As pressure on it grows, the livestock industry’s approach to the transition to Net Zero is increasingly being compared to that of fossil fuel interests. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / Getty ImagesTL;DR: Here’s the top five news items of note in climate news for Aotearoa-NZ this week, and a discussion above ...
The New Zealand Herald reports – Stats NZ has offered a voluntary redundancy scheme to all of its workers as a way to give staff some control over their “future” amidst widespread job losses in the public sector. In an update to staff this morning, seen by the Herald, Statistics New Zealand ...
On Werewolf/Scoop, I usually do two long form political columns a week. From now on, there will be an extra column each week about music and movies. But first, some late-breaking political events:The rise in unemployment numbers for the March quarter was bigger than expected – and especially sharp ...
David Farrar writes – The Herald reports: TVNZ says it is dealing with about 50 formal complaints over its coverage of the latest 1News-Verian political poll, with some viewers – as well as the Prime Minister and a former senior Labour MP – critical of the tone of the 6pm report. ...
Muriel Newman writes – When Meridian Energy was seeking resource consents for a West Coast hydro dam proposal in 2010, local Maori “strenuously” objected, claiming their mana was inextricably linked to ‘their’ river and could be damaged. After receiving a financial payment from the company, however, the Ngai Tahu ...
The Green Party is welcoming the announcement by the Minister Responsible for RMA Reform Chris Bishop to approve most of the Wellington City Council’s District Plan recommendations. ...
David Seymour has failed to get the sweeping cuts he wanted to the free and healthy school lunch programme, Labour education spokesperson Jan Tinetti said. ...
Hon Willie Jackson has been invited by the Oxford Union to debate the motion “This House Believes British Museums are not Very British’ on May 23rd. ...
Green Party MP Hūhana Lyndon says her Public Works (Prohibition of Compulsory Acquisition of Māori Land) Amendment Bill is an opportunity to right some past wrongs around the alienation of Māori land. ...
A senior, highly respected King’s Counsel with decades of experience in our law courts, Gary Judd KC, has filed a complaint about compulsory tikanga Māori studies for law students - highlighting the utter depths of absurdity this woke cultural madness has taken our society. The tikanga regulations will compel law ...
The Government needs to be clear with the people of the Nelson Marlborough region about the changes it is considering for the Nelson Hospital rebuild, Labour health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall said. ...
Ministers must front up about which projects it will push through under its Fast Track Approvals legislation, Labour environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said today. ...
The Government is again adding to New Zealand’s growing unemployment, this time cutting jobs at the agencies responsible for urban development and growing much needed housing stock. ...
With Minister Karen Chhour indicating in the House today that she either doesn’t know or care about the frontline cuts she’s making to Oranga Tamariki, we risk seeing more and more of our children falling through the cracks. ...
The Labour Party is saddened to learn of the death of Sir Robert Martin, a globally renowned disability advocate who led the way for disability rights both in New Zealand and internationally. ...
Labour is calling for the Government to urgently rethink its coalition commitment to restart live animal exports, Labour animal welfare spokesperson Rachel Boyack said. ...
Today’s Financial Stability Report has once again highlighted that poverty and deep inequality are political choices - and this Government is choosing to make them worse. ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to do more for our households in most need as unemployment rises and the cost of living crisis endures. ...
Unemployment is on the rise and it’s only going to get worse under this Government, Labour finance spokesperson Barbara Edmonds said. Stats NZ figures show the unemployment rate grew to 4.3 percent in the March quarter from 4 percent in the December quarter. “This is the second rise in unemployment ...
The New Zealand Labour Party welcomes the entering into force of the European Union and New Zealand free trade agreement. This agreement opens the door for a huge increase in trade opportunities with a market of 450 million people who are high value discerning consumers of New Zealand goods and ...
The National-led Government continues its fiscal jiggery pokery with its Pharmac announcement today, Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall says. “The government has increased Pharmac funding but conceded it will only make minimal increases in access to medicine”, said Ayesha Verrall “This is far from the bold promises made to fund ...
This afternoon’s interim Waitangi Tribunal report must be taken seriously as it affects our most vulnerable children, Labour children’s spokesperson Willow-Jean Prime. ...
Te Pāti Māori are demanding the New Zealand Government support an international independent investigation into mass graves that have been uncovered at two hospitals on the Gaza strip, following weeks of assault by Israeli troops. Among the 392 bodies that have been recovered, are children and elderly civilians. Many of ...
Our two-tiered system for veterans’ support is out of step with our closest partners, and all parties in Parliament should work together to fix it, Labour veterans’ affairs spokesperson Greg O’Connor said. ...
Stripping two Ministers of their portfolios just six months into the job shows Christopher Luxon’s management style is lacking, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said. ...
Tonight’s court decision to overturn the summons of the Children’s Minister has enabled the Crown to continue making decisions about Māori without evidence, says Te Pāti Māori spokesperson for Children, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “The judicial system has this evening told the nation that this government can do whatever they want when ...
It appears Nicola Willis is about to pull the rug out from under the feet of local communities still dealing with the aftermath of last year’s severe weather, and local councils relying on funding to build back from these disasters. ...
The Government is making short-sighted changes to the Resource Management Act (RMA) that will take away environmental protection in favour of short-term profits, Labour’s environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said today. ...
Labour welcomes the release of the report into the North Island weather events and looks forward to working with the Government to ensure that New Zealand is as prepared as it can be for the next natural disaster. ...
The Labour Party has called for the New Zealand Government to recognise Palestine, as a material step towards progressing the two-State solution needed to achieve a lasting peace in the region. ...
Some of our country’s most important work, stopping the sexual exploitation of children and violent extremism could go along with staff on the frontline at ports and airports. ...
The Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill will give projects such as new coal mines a ‘get out of jail free’ card to wreak havoc on the environment, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said today. ...
The government's decision to reintroduce Three Strikes is a destructive and ineffective piece of law-making that will only exacerbate an inherently biased and racist criminal justice system, said Te Pāti Māori Justice Spokesperson, Tākuta Ferris, today. During the time Three Strikes was in place in Aotearoa, Māori and Pasifika received ...
Cuts to frontline hospital staff are not only a broken election promise, it shows the reckless tax cuts have well and truly hit the frontline of the health system, says Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall. ...
The Green Party has joined the call for public submissions on the fast-track legislation to be extended after the Ombudsman forced the Government to release the list of organisations invited to apply just hours before submissions close. ...
New Zealand’s good work at reducing climate emissions for three years in a row will be undone by the National government’s lack of ambition and scrapping programmes that were making a difference, Labour Party climate spokesperson Megan Woods said today. ...
Your Excellency Ambassador Meredith, Members of the Diplomatic Corps and Ambassadors from European Union Member States, Ministerial colleagues, Members of Parliament, and other distinguished guests, Thank you everyone for joining us. Ladies and gentlemen - In diplomacy, we often speak of ‘close’ and ‘long-standing’ relations. ...
The Therapeutic Products Act (TPA) will be repealed this year so that a better regime can be put in place to provide New Zealanders safe and timely access to medicines, medical devices and health products, Associate Health Minister Casey Costello announced today. “The medicines and products we are talking about ...
The Minister Responsible for RMA Reform, Chris Bishop, today released his decision on twenty recommendations referred to him by the Wellington City Council relating to its Intensification Planning Instrument, after the Council rejected those recommendations of the Independent Hearings Panel and made alternative recommendations. “Wellington notified its District Plan on ...
Rape Awareness Week (6-10 May) is an important opportunity to acknowledge the continued effort required by government and communities to ensure that all New Zealanders can live free from violence, say Ministers Karen Chhour and Louise Upston. “With 1 in 3 women and 1 in 8 men experiencing sexual violence ...
Associate Education Minister David Seymour has today announced that the Government will be delivering a more efficient Healthy School Lunches Programme, saving taxpayers approximately $107 million a year compared to how Labour funded it, by embracing innovation and commercial expertise. “We are delivering on our commitment to treat taxpayers’ money ...
New research on the impacts of extreme weather on coastal marine habitats in Tairāwhiti and Hawke’s Bay will help fishery managers plan for and respond to any future events, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. A report released today on research by Niwa on behalf of Fisheries New Zealand ...
Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Winston Peters will lead a broad political delegation on a five-stop Pacific tour next week to strengthen New Zealand’s engagement with the region. The delegation will visit Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea, Vanuatu, New Caledonia, and Tuvalu. “New Zealand has deep and ...
There has been a material decline in gas production according to figures released today by the Gas Industry Co. Figures released by the Gas Industry Company show that there was a 12.5 per cent reduction in gas production during 2023, and a 27.8 per cent reduction in gas production in the ...
Defence Minister Judith Collins tonight announced the recipients of the Minister of Defence Awards of Excellence for Industry, saying they all contribute to New Zealanders’ security and wellbeing. “Congratulations to this year’s recipients, whose innovative products and services play a critical role in the delivery of New Zealand’s defence capabilities, ...
Welcome to you all - it is a pleasure to be here this evening.I would like to start by thanking Greg Lowe, Chair of the New Zealand Defence Industry Advisory Council, for co-hosting this reception with me. This evening is about recognising businesses from across New Zealand and overseas who in ...
It is a pleasure to be speaking to you as the Minister for Digitising Government. I would like to thank Akolade for the invitation to address this Summit, and to acknowledge the great effort you are making to grow New Zealand’s digital future. Today, we stand at the cusp of ...
New Zealand is urging both Israel and Hamas to agree to an immediate ceasefire to avoid the further humanitarian catastrophe that military action in Rafah would unleash, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. “The immense suffering in Gaza cannot be allowed to worsen further. Both sides have a responsibility to ...
A new online data dashboard released today as part of the Government’s school attendance action plan makes more timely daily attendance data available to the public and parents, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. The interactive dashboard will be updated once a week to show a national average of how ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced Rosemary Banks will be New Zealand’s next Ambassador to the United States of America. “Our relationship with the United States is crucial for New Zealand in strategic, security and economic terms,” Mr Peters says. “New Zealand and the United States have a ...
The Government is considering creating a new tier of minerals permitting that will make it easier for hobby miners to prospect for gold. “New Zealand was built on gold, it’s in our DNA. Our gold deposits, particularly in regions such as Otago and the West Coast have always attracted fortune-hunters. ...
Minister for Trade Todd McClay today announced that New Zealand and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) will commence negotiations on a free trade agreement (FTA). Minister McClay met with his counterpart UAE Trade Minister Dr Thani bin Ahmed Al Zeyoudi in Dubai, where they announced the launch of negotiations on a ...
New Zealand Sign Language Week is an excellent opportunity for all Kiwis to give the language a go, Disabilities Issues Minister Louise Upston says. This week (May 6 to 12) is New Zealand Sign Language (NZSL) Week. The theme is “an Aotearoa where anyone can sign anywhere” and aims to ...
Six tertiary students have been selected to work on NASA projects in the US through a New Zealand Space Scholarship, Space Minister Judith Collins announced today. “This is a fantastic opportunity for these talented students. They will undertake internships at NASA’s Ames Research Center or its Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), where ...
New Zealanders will be safer because of a $1.9 billion investment in more frontline Corrections officers, more support for offenders to turn away from crime, and more prison capacity, Corrections Minister Mark Mitchell says. “Our Government said we would crack down on crime. We promised to restore law and order, ...
The OECD’s latest report on New Zealand reinforces the importance of bringing Government spending under control, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. The OECD conducts country surveys every two years to review its members’ economic policies. The 2024 New Zealand survey was presented in Wellington today by OECD Chief Economist Clare Lombardelli. ...
The Government has delivered on its election promise to provide a financially sustainable model for Auckland under its Local Water Done Well plan. The plan, which has been unanimously endorsed by Auckland Council’s Governing Body, will see Aucklanders avoid the previously projected 25.8 per cent water rates increases while retaining ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters discussed the need for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, and enhanced cooperation in the Pacific with German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock during her first official visit to New Zealand today. "New Zealand and Germany enjoy shared interests and values, including the rule of law, democracy, respect for the international system ...
The Minister Responsible for RMA Reform, Chris Bishop today released his decision on four recommendations referred to him by the Western Bay of Plenty District Council, opening the door to housing growth in the area. The Council’s Plan Change 92 allows more homes to be built in existing and new ...
Thank you, John McKinnon and the New Zealand China Council for the invitation to speak to you today. Thank you too, all members of the China Council. Your effort has played an essential role in helping to build, shape, and grow a balanced and resilient relationship between our two ...
The Government is modernising insurance law to better protect Kiwis and provide security in the event of a disaster, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly announced today. “These reforms are long overdue. New Zealand’s insurance law is complicated and dated, some of which is more than 100 years old. ...
The coalition Government is refreshing its approach to supporting pay equity claims as time-limited funding for the Pay Equity Taskforce comes to an end, Public Service Minister Nicola Willis says. “Three years ago, the then-government introduced changes to the Equal Pay Act to support pay equity bargaining. The changes were ...
Structured literacy will change the way New Zealand children learn to read - improving achievement and setting students up for success, Education Minister Erica Stanford says. “Being able to read and write is a fundamental life skill that too many young people are missing out on. Recent data shows that ...
Trade Minister Todd McClay says Canada’s refusal to comply in full with a CPTPP trade dispute ruling in our favour over dairy trade is cynical and New Zealand has no intention of backing down. Mr McClay said he has asked for urgent legal advice in respect of our ‘next move’ ...
The rights of our children and young people will be enhanced by changes the coalition Government will make to strengthen oversight of the Oranga Tamariki system, including restoring a single Children’s Commissioner. “The Government is committed to delivering better public services that care for our most at-risk young people and ...
The Government is making it easier for minor changes to be made to a building consent so building a home is easier and more affordable, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “The coalition Government is focused on making it easier and cheaper to build homes so we can ...
New Zealand lost a true legend when internationally renowned disability advocate Sir Robert Martin (KNZM) passed away at his home in Whanganui last night, Disabilities Issues Minister Louise Upston says. “Our Government’s thoughts are with his wife Lynda, family and community, those he has worked with, the disability community in ...
Good evening – Before discussing the challenges and opportunities facing New Zealand’s foreign policy, we’d like to first acknowledge the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs. You have contributed to debates about New Zealand foreign policy over a long period of time, and we thank you for hosting us. ...
From today, passengers travelling internationally from Auckland Airport will be able to keep laptops and liquids in their carry-on bags for security screening thanks to new technology, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Creating a more efficient and seamless travel experience is important for holidaymakers and businesses, enabling faster movement through ...
People with an interest in the health of Northland’s marine ecosystems are invited to a public meeting to discuss how to deal with kina barrens, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones will lead the discussion, which will take place on Friday, 10 May, at Awanui Hotel in ...
Kiwi exporters are $100 million better off today with the NZ EU FTA entering into force says Trade Minister Todd McClay. “This is all part of our plan to grow the economy. New Zealand's prosperity depends on international trade, making up 60 per cent of the country’s total economic activity. ...
There are heartening signs that the extractive sector is once again becoming an attractive prospect for investors and a source of economic prosperity for New Zealand, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The beginnings of a resurgence in extractive industries are apparent in media reports of the sector in the past ...
The return of the historic Ō-Rākau battle site to the descendants of those who fought there moved one step closer today with the first reading of Te Pire mō Ō-Rākau, Te Pae o Maumahara / The Ō-Rākau Remembrance Bill. The Bill will entrust the 9.7-hectare battle site, five kilometres west ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has announced 25 new high-speed EV charging hubs along key routes between major urban centres and outlined the Government’s plan to supercharge New Zealand’s EV infrastructure. The hubs will each have several chargers and be capable of charging at least four – and up to 10 ...
The coalition Government will not proceed with the previous Government’s plans to regulate residential property managers, Housing Minister Chris Bishop says. “I have written to the Chairperson of the Social Services and Community Committee to inform him that the Government does not intend to support the Residential Property Managers Bill ...
The Government has announced an independent review into the disability support system funded by the Ministry of Disabled People – Whaikaha. Disability Issues Minister Louise Upston says the review will look at what can be done to strengthen the long-term sustainability of Disability Support Services to provide disabled people and ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra The Albanese government is talking up the crucial role of gas as a transition fuel “through to 2050 and beyond”. In a gas strategy to be released on Thursday, the government envisages the fuel’s ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra Next week the government will again next try to get its legislation through to deal with non-citizens who won’t cooperate with efforts to deport them. The bill, which the opposition and crossbench refused to rush ...
A long-term project that will set out an alternative vision for Aotearoa that looks beyond the narrow confines of the policy straight jacket adopted by successive governments. ...
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Jordan Goudreau is a "Canadian-born US military veteran heads the US company at the centre of the plot to overthrow the Venezuelan president. A former Green Beret who received a number of bravery awards, he served 15 years in the US Army, first in the infantry as a mortar specialist, and later as a special forces medical sergeant, the Washington Post newspaper reports."
"He was deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan twice between 2006 and 2014, army officials quoted by the Post say. In 2018, he set up Silvercorp USA, a private security firm, in Florida. The firm advertises a variety of services, including assisting victims of kidnapping and extortion. It claims to have "led international security teams" for the president of the US." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52568475
"Silvercorp's website advertises operations in more than 50 countries, with an advisory team made up of "former diplomats, former heads of security for multinational corporations, and the most experienced and viable military, law enforcement and intelligence professionals in the industry today", without naming them."
"Venezuela's state TV has shown a video of a US citizen apparently confessing to plotting to overthrow President Nicolás Maduro and bring him to the US." "In Wednesday's video, Mr Denman, 34, appeared to explain that he was hired to train Venezuelans in Colombia before returning to Caracas and taking control of an airport to allow Mr Maduro to be taken out of the country. "I was helping Venezuelans take back control of their country," Mr Denman, a former special operations forces member, is seen as saying. Mr Denman said he and Airan Berry, 41, were contracted by Jordan Goudreau".
Opposition leader "Guaidó denied having anything to do with the ex-Green Beret. In a statement, he said he had "no relationship nor responsibility for any actions" taken by the US war veteran."
"Venezuela said it would seek extradition of Mr Goudreau, who has admitted he was involved in the operation." Good luck with that! Sceptics will, of course, claim that this is all just a conspiracy theory, as usual…
Dirty deeds done dirt cheap … don't work out very well.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/venezuela-coup-green-beret-maduro_n_5eb4388ec5b649a9ea667d58
"At the end of March, Goudreau’s main ally, a hard-line former Venezuelan general, broadcast the plans to anyone who’d listen, then turned himself in to Colombian officials and was deported to the United States, where he’s currently in prison on drug trafficking charges. Goudreau, meanwhile, posted multiple tweets telling the world that he was about to do a coup."
That's from the Huffpost report. So something new: a twittercoup. Maduro: "We knew everything." What he didn't say: "We read Twitter!" And can't call it a conspiracy – they happen in secret. This operation was public domain.
Who is the client?
Reading between the lines of the HuffPo piece, it appears there was the beginnings of a plan working with Guaido and the rest of the Venezuelan opposition. But that went cold. So it appears Dumb and Dumber went ahead anyway, on spec, possibly expecting a payoff in post-coup gratitude.
Well, not quite sure how you might want to define 'client'. I don't think it's controversial to say that Guaidó was 'in the loop'. And if anyone thinks Guaidó makes any moves without the knowledge and at least tacit approval of the US, then I'd like to see them produce evidence of the puppet having acted on its own.
Anyway, rather than focusing on the 'client', maybe it's more worthwhile looking to where the incentive might have come from?
And on that front, as the Huffington Post article points out…
But even if there’s no evidence the U.S. was aware of or involved in the plot, as the AP reported, it’s plausible that Trump’s rabid “maximum pressure” campaign against Venezuela ― and his decision to place a $15 million bounty on Maduro’s head in March — helped fuel the absurd belief that a ragtag band of low-rent mercenaries could waltz into Caracas to cheering masses who’d greet them as liberators as they toppled an entrenched authoritarian.
Maybe also worth noting that the attempts to ouster Maduro 'enjoys' Congressional bi-partisan support and approval?
Bellingcat deep dives into the weirdness.
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/05/05/the-invasion-of-venezuela-brought-to-you-by-silvercorp-usa/
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/05/07/the-venezuela-silvercorp-usa-saga-keeps-getting-weirder/
Cool, ta. "Cliver Alcalá, a former major general in the Venezuelan army and lifelong supporter of former president Hugo Chavez who had been living in exile".
First, you don't get to be a major general if you are a fool. Not even in Latin America. Second, as a committed supporter of Chavez you'd expect him to support Maduro. This alerts us to the framing of left/right usually imposed on the Venezualan conflict is too simple.
Clue: "feuding among opposition politicians". No wonder Guaido hasn't been successful. https://apnews.com/79346b4e428676424c0e5669c80fc310
"And last month, Alcalá was indicted by U.S. prosecutors alongside Maduro as one of the architects of a narcoterrorist conspiracy that allegedly sent 250 metric tons of cocaine every year to the U.S." So he fell out with his drug baron buddy, huh??
Very amusing listening to a farming lobbiest on Nat Radio just now demanding welfare benefits to help with this year's drought..
.. stick with your National Party roots bro – "some people just make poor life decisions"
.. and doesn't occur to them to put a little aside each year so there is a buffer for drought years?? It isn't as if it is unforeseeable…
Capitalists, conservatives and National Party – the laughing stock of the nation as their long held politics are ditched for socialism…
It was always going to happen. Such is humanity. Socialist to the core. Conservatives are so slow to catch on… to everything… they are like a lead weight slowing the rest down
Farmers are practically our only exporting businesses bringing in the dollars to New Zealand, and we should be nothing but grateful to them right now.
Every other business is being propped up to its gills right now – so should they be.
Thanks Ad for telling it how it is and supporting our farmers.
No probs.
It's going into winter but it's been a surprisingly good exporting year.
The lamb is lean, the apples are awesome, all the vintners are telling me it's going to be an utterly vintage year, now all those moron Chinese need to do is recognise our venison as farmed not wild.
So despite many still in drought and having had their freight ships stopped, farmers and the export companies are going keep bringing in the profits and the taxes that help us stay afloat.
So right. You see it clearly. Not sure about the taxes as all the smaller runs will make a loss but like the guy on TV trying to open his bar realising he Will makes no money but keep a few staff employed. Hopefully we will get there.
Recovery for all ODT 4th May
For a moment I thought I was reading quotes from Corbyn or Sanders. But no, Bolger has had an epiphany.
Thanks aj. If NZ takes notice of the venerable John Key then maybe there is hope that the venerable Jim Bolger must be heard. Will the Herald post his opinion?
Bolger has long admitted they went too far, and it didn't get the results he intended.
Always have respect for people who have the guts, to own up to their cockups.
Me too. And remember he dumped Ruth Richardson quite early in his tenure. Despite his conservative politics I always had much respect for Bolger.
Same
Not all that early in his tenure, Anne.
Only after 3 long years of extreme ideologically-propelled experimentation, after an absolutely unprecedented long-term plunge in the polls (from 50% right after their 1990 Election win down to the low 20s barely a year later) and, even then, Bolger took another 2 years to dump her … waiting until they came pretty damn close to losing power at the 1993 General Election (with parties openly critical of the Govt's direction – Lab / Alliance / NZF – collectively winning a significant majority of the vote).
Bolger, of course, was broadly from the Muldoonist wing of the Party, never had all that much time for Richardson … but was still willing to tolerate her social destruction as Finance minister simply in order to placate internal opponents within caucus & the wider party.
Thanks for the correction swordfish. It was my recollection he dumped her a little sooner but you know… memories can become frayed with time.
I was never a supporter of Bolger's politics but…. after nine years of Muldoon and several years of the angst caused by the Rogernomes followed by Ruth R., Bolger himself seemed like a decent man. I think he was a decent man caught up in an ideological storm he wouldn’t or couldn't reverse. Whatever, he had the nous to eat humble pie at a later date – as indeed did David Lange.
I had some sympathy for them both.
In case anyone needs reminding, Bolger was in charge of the most radical reforms of our economy, welfare system, and political order since MJ Savage. He and Richardson left Lange and Douglas for dust in terms of severity and chaos and long term destruction of our society.
This Emmaus-level hypocrisy crap out of his mouth about neliberalism is the burblings of a barely functioning 84 year old multimillionaire farmer hoping Mallard will keep tapping talc into his gimp mask to keep the happy moans going within the penthouse floors of The Terrace.
AD 2.2.3
Your first para is quite true. But those words might ring the bell in a few other heads. It all helps.Better than taking his ideology intact to the grave.
My God you're a shit sometimes Ad. Why, I don't know. You show a marked disdain for anyone over the age of 65 as if we're all senile and incapable of coherent thought.
Well, I've got news for you. One day you’re going to be one of us. I bet you're attitude will change then.
And he was not responsible for all those reforms. Some of them yes, but as I said @ 2.2.2.1, he dumped Richardson quite early in his tenure… because he believed even then she had gone too far. And Jenny Shipley finished the job.
You'd have to be remarkably stupid to defend Bolger – and still you leapt at the chance
His hard right reforms got worse and worse throughout his 8 years in power. He was a far more effective Prime Minister than that fool David Lange ever was, because Jim Bolger was actually in charge of his Cabinet and his Finance Minister: he was responsible for it and we all knew it.
Shipley was PM for barely 18 months and achieved nothing except the annihilation of the National Party for nearly a decade.
I like angry Ad
Being Nasty to people going through extreme hardship is not going to win friends anywhere VTO.
Thanks to you TD and enough is enough for seeing the big picture and keeping it fair.
Classy – Laughing at people down on their luck.
Don't we aspire to be a country that cares and looks after everyone during troubled times (not just those that are on our side of the political divide)?
Thank god we have Jacinda who lives and demonstrates that every day, or at least trys to.
I could not agree more! Farmers take the money in good years, set up Trusts to minimise tax, pay expensive tax lawyers and arrange finances to their kids go through university on full benefit. There is no honesty in business!
VTO. If you going to talk through your arse just don’t. I live in CHB where are used to the dry conditions and farm accordingly. My son is trying to cope with the fact that our spring that waters our stock on 260 htrs is running at 12 litres a minute. We are pumping from a Dam that I built for this reason so we have alternate water. We have made baleage that we hope will be enough for winter but have been feeding our sheep grain and bulls palm kernel since Feb.we buy palm kernel because you can’t buy anything else. we haven’t destocked because there’s no where to send them. The works are running at half speed because of Covid. So far this situation has cost him around sixty thousand dollars and counting. Don’t tell me we don’t put feed aside to plan for the winter. You talk like the uninformed ignorant prat you must be. Oh by the way we grow the fucking food you and most others Eat.
Good post New View. Farmers need respect as the start of the food chain, they are willing to get out there & battle the elements. Most people that criticise farmers when times turn bad wouldn’t last a day working on the land, and wouldn’t have the balls to buy some land & mortgage themselves to the hilt.
Thank you Bazza64.. I’m starting to have a little faith again.
".. stick with your National Party roots bro – "some people just make poor life decisions"
Ha ha, I like it. The bit that is realy getting to me is all the winging by the right expecting socialistic handouts from the government.
I had a tory friend phone to see if we were coping OK yesterday, (not a bad guy really) I felt he only phoned to have a winge about how Ardern has really stuffed the country (the virus is all Ardrens and Labours fault ) and was not getting any help from the government.
If you believe the machinery of government exists to maximise the profitability of your farm, it all makes perfect sense.
This drought is being compounded by the pandemic farmers can't sell stock to free up cash.
Being Nasty like you claim about life choices is disgusting ,That's why Jacinda is so popular she doesn't lower herself to Paula Bennett cheap nasty shots
Thanks for not kicking the farmers.
As an example of what ails our media, a headline from Stuff today reads, 'Coronavirus: Level 2 shows Covid-19 alert system's weakness'. Luke Malpass seems to think that the planned Levels should be immutably cast in stone and very prescriptive. Perhaps he wants the PM to be the loving mother of the nation who gives him a hug and tells him when he may go to the loo. If he bothered to refer back to the original levels that were mailed out, he would see that what was intended was very clearly signalled ages ago. Yesterday's announcement just reiterated what Level 2 means with some examples for clarification. The Stuff wank-fest also brings to mind the 'mediaed' to death whinging of the Principal of an Auckland secondary school who made a great fuss over the fact that the Ministry of Education hadn't detailed how he should run his school. What the fuck is he paid to do? He should have been conferring with his leadership team and doing some planning instead crying to the Court of Insignificance run by the Leader of the Opposition and then moaning to the media. Tim O'Connor must have been severely deflated with yesterday's announcement. Most Principals where ready to quietly and competently manage their schools through a pandemic. One can only hope that the majority of NZers (including children who have been responding well so far) will behave as grown-ups, continue to act sensibly and take responsibility for building on the successes that have been achieved so far. To save referring back to the mail-out, "Level 2 – Reduce: Disease is contained, but risk of community transmission growing." This is followed by risk assessment criteria then a range of measures which are pretty much identical to those the PM outlined at yesterday's briefing.
and all these types of articles have no comment sections…..go figure
Here! Tim O'Connor cries, "Don't you know who I am?"
Tim O’Connor runs a school with loads of ‘special needs’ students and their precious parents. Give the poor man a break!
Veritable sheltered workshop. 🙂
+1 I read to the point where Malpass said " and the health advice seems to change with regularity" and realised the article was a beat up. The health advice to people has been totally consistent. Under Level 2 there may be some people confused about how to apply that advice within their business. But I don't think that should be too difficult if people want to think about it. For gods sake just use your brain. There have been plenty of examples of how businesses are managing under level 3. It's not too hard.
Talking to a person who is part of the surgical team at Middlemore. The usual pre-op drugs are no longer available probably due to India being shut down. They are apparently having to use a barbiturate that dates back to the 1960s, which gives unpleasant side effects like disorientation and even hallucinations. How many other drugs are going to be impacted by Pharmac having a single supplier?
@Janice
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/121423934/coronavirus-pharmac-warns-of-significant-shortage-of-surgery-drug-propofol
Thank you Kay.
If memory serves, it was Tuinal and Sodium Amytal that were the barbs of choice back on the 60s and 70s.
They both enjoyed a wide recreational fan base…especially among the medical fraternity.
Not sure it's all down to the problem of having a single supplier. And drug supplies certainly aren't going to be the only items affected.
There is 'bugger all' moving by air at the moment.
Now sure, most items can be moved by sea if air is out, but given the significant shift in time frames and the likelihood that most people and businesses got 'caught out', I'd be thinking a huge gap in availability pretty much across the board is on the cards.
Hmm..
There was clearly an 'Oh shit!' moment at the Mystery of Health yesterday as Ardern stated quite determinedly that hairdressers unleashed at Level 2 would have to wear masks.
No doubt there will have been others who pointed out the inconsistent messaging on the wearing of PPE, especially frontline health workers, and specifically support workers providing personal care in clients' homes.
'Masks not needed unless patient or client has or is suspected of having the virus.' was the initial messaging that was repeatedly stated by the popular experts while those at the frontline advised the Precautionary Approach 'because we simply don't know who is infectious…'.
Then around about the 23rd April the Guidelines were updated which 'allowed' mask wearing by homecare workers if physical distancing could not be maintained.
Then Ardern states yesterday that hairdressers 'must wear masks'….and some poor minion at the Misery must have spent the night in a furious Guideline rewrite to produce the more heavy on the ticked boxes version that greeted me this morning.
But…. many of the ticks are not quite as definite as it would appear.
Crack out your close work spectacles and read the tiny print.
Caught my attention as well. Those tiny footnotes on the first page..
https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/pages/guidelines-ppe-disability-support-care-workers-7may20.pdf
Offloading responsibility for infection risk assessment onto low-paid care workers in each person’s home is not leadership.
Thanks for posting the link Sacha…phone and tablet issues etc.
I don't suppose the previous versions are still around?
I downloaded one…but not the 23rd April version. I'm slipping. 😉
FWIW, the supply if PPE is still not absolutely certain, and distribution seems to be dependent on the stressed courier system.
Masks worn inappropriately ,put on or adjusted,worn to long are more of a danger than keeping away from others. But if you are working next to somebody that's when correct procedures and protocols are necessary.
NZ pandemic expert who was in charge of the controlling the Sars outbreak says there is a 10 point protocol for correctly putting on PPE if not followed makes it ineffective.
Science not scaremongering please.
Hmm…@Tricledrown.
What say you not comment until you have actually read at least the original post?
Or perhaps, take the time to explain what prompted your "Science not scaremongering. " instruction.
In little words, Tricledrown, so even you can understand…
…the point of my comment here today and my comments last evening is the very weird mixed message about who should be wearing PPE.
Hairdressers must wear PPE regardless of Covid 19 status of clients, while health care workers have been repeatedly told over the past two and a half months they only should wear masks when their charge has or is suspected of having The Virus.
So….?
My comments weren't critical but a overview.
An overview of what?
How does your overview account for the official line saying hairdressers need masks regardless of Covid status of clients and healthcare workers only need a mask if the client has Covid?
Perhaps the perception is that hairdressers are more capable of learning proper donning and doffing of PPE than healthcare workers?
That status for care workers have changed after the outbreaks in 5 care facilities.My wife and niece work in care homes at first a mask was only required when in close contact .Now its across the board hand washing and distancing was optional now strictly enforced
How did the status change?
Right from the beginning healthcare workers at all levels were asking, begging for it to be SOP to wear at least masks when dealing hands on with patients or clients.
The Ministry and its mouthpieces determined otherwise.
The only thing that had changed is the Ministry's guidelines…and even then indeterminately.
Rest homes and private homes are two different workforces, with different advocates, unions and contracts. The squeakiest wheel got the media and the backdowns.
The rest got a report from DHBs excusing themselves of inaction: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/416092/ppe-distribution-to-community-support-workers-appropriate
"…explain what prompted your "Science not scaremongering. " instruction. " "
Rosemary, I wonder if that comment might have had something to do with your disparaging "the Mystery of Health" and "some poor minion at the Misery" comments @6. Your criticism is consistent, but your derogatory labelling is not.
"No doubt there will have been others who pointed out the inconsistent messaging on" your choice of slur.
Disparagement is not the same as scaremongering.
But disparagement can be part of a fearmonger's toolkit.
For example, if I wanted to highlight or engender concerns/fears about the lack of competency of a particular Government Ministry, I might try replacing 'Ministry' with "Mystery" and/or "Misery". Undermining worthy of a politician.
And full credit to Aunty Rosemary, such substitutions are amusing – well done.
What is the fear here?
Fear of inconsistent/incorrect MoH advice on PPE use during a pandemic?
Maybe it's helpful to describe the MoH as a 'Mystery' and a 'Misery' during a pandemic – I think it's not. No affiliations to the Mystery/Misery, fwiw.
You may be confusing fear with anger.
Fear can lead to anger, but I wouldn't care to speculate in this case.
" -well done."
Thanks.
I could have used my other term of endearment…"Miserly"…but I doubt it accurately applies in this situation.
Considering the MOH harbours some of the highest paid bureaucrats/public servants it's obvious they're not averse to spending the tax dollars allocated them in the Budgets.
Its how they choose to spend those dollars of ours that is the issue.
Successive governments have largely failed to effect meaningful culture change.
SSDD.
"SSDD." Well said – and all without 'Mystery', or 'Misery', although ‘Miserly‘ is a new twist.
I may understand, in part – wasn't above using a disparaging word or two myself when management went off the reservation, for all the good it did. At least I felt better.
Er. No.
I am pretty sure Tricledrown would have said something along those lines if that was their point.
I have been one of many in the disabled community locked in seeming perpetual combat with those fuckwits at the Ministry of Health for twenty years.
If you had read just a few of the documents that have been shat out by their policy department over the years…never mind reading a few of the Ministry's audits…my weak attempt at making a joke of their title would seem a mild response.
You are hardly alone with that choice of names either. Some parts of the Ministry are good. Disability Services has never been one of them.
There is no doubt health spending has been wound back over 30 years and spin doctors have replaced real doctors.
The political landscape has changed catering to a far more selfish self centered society.
Successive govts are to sared to increase taxes to give us a comprehensive health system.
IMHO it has been the long term plan to so under resource the Public Health and Disability sector that the default for those who can afford it will be insurance and private healthcare.
Witness Ngati Whatua taking out medical insurance for its beneficiaries so they can access private health services. Supported by that perennial advocate Lance O'Sullivan.
Whoever would have thunk it?
"NZ pandemic expert who was in charge of the controlling the Sars outbreak says there is a 10 point protocol for correctly putting on PPE if not followed makes it ineffective."
Was that for home care workers or hospital workers? They're not the same.
Re using masks appropriately, this applies to hairdressers and the public too, so your point is kind of moot to Rosemary's.
Can't link to this as on Facebook.
But. Anyone who wants to moan about the NZ Government response, should read this. And have a think.
The Truth About COVID-19 by an ICU Nurse on the New York City Frontlines
[snip]
[link added – weka]
Thanks. Weka. Your getting good at this,☺️
An intensive care doc writes.
https://icudiary.com/
This guy was only 47 & died from it, https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/may/07/ty-mercury-prize-nominated-uk-rapper-dies-aged-47-of-coronavirus
"5G conspiracies have led to a spate of attacks on telecoms engineers since the start of the coronavirus crisis, with Openreach reporting almost 50 incidents of abuse in April." https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/may/07/5g-conspiracy-theories-attacks-telecoms-covid
"In just one weekend in early May, at least 20 mobile phone masts across the UK are believed to have been torched or otherwise vandalised."
"Another Openreach engineer, Naveed Q, said he had to flee from a group of 15 people shouting abuse at him; one had accused him of installing 5G equipment in Walthamstow, east London. In Leicester, a man tried to open the door of an Openreach van stopped at a roundabout, according to Dylan F, an apprentice network engineer at the company, while shouting: “Who do you think you are? 5G is killing us all!”"
I was still at school when Buffalo Springfield had a hit singing "paranoia strikes deep, into your lives it will creep". That contagion effect is evident still. There seems to be an irrational part of the human psyche operating like a fertile field that gets seeded by such mental contagions. They don't need a virus to carry them through the populace.
……….."It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down………great song
The engineer in me tells me 5G is probably safe enough, but I can understand the skepticism and legitimate caution of people who have no easy way to evaluate what they are being told. It is a trust issue and the industry really should be working a lot harder to prove their case in a way that non-technical people can accept.
Barging into rolling out something people don't trust is a dumb, arrogant move.
Do you have any reason with even a hint of substance to think 5G is not safe? That is, anything beyond the normal scientist and engineers caution that all knowledge and understanding is incomplete, so there just might be something out there we don't yet understand.
There's plenty of history with the frequencies to be used for 5G, at much higher power densities than communications will use. Not a hint of anything hazardous that I'm aware of, beyond simple surface heating at enormously high power densities. There have certainly been a few random statistical clusters that have prompted major investigations that then definitively concluded it was a random statistical cluster.
The one that comes to mind was a cluster of Connecticut traffic cops with testicular cancer. They had regularly been keeping their radar guns in their laps, turned on, occasionally triggering them. Basically they were directly nuking their nuts, but without the hassle of trying to close the microwave door with their junk inside. But that clearly turned to be just a random statistical cluster.
There's plenty of biophysics to say why there's no reason to expect any harmful effects. Or indeed any effects at all, beyond simple surface heating at enormously high power densities.
So all the anti-5G stuff looks to me like fearful people taken in by pseudoscience gobbledegook, trying to inappropriately invoke the precautionary principle.
Andre you need to provide a link for "There's plenty of history with the frequencies to be used for 5G, at much higher power densities than communications will use."
You do understand the inverse square law of power over distance?
hint cellphones operate in VERY near proximity.
You have any idea off the top of your head what frequency ranges are being proposed for 5G?
You got any idea off the top of your head what applications also use those frequencies, currently and historically?
You got any idea how deeply different frequencies penetrate biological tissues, what levels of voltages and other effects they induce, and how the effects of the power levels and frequencies used for communications compare to what is already present through other sources?
You got any idea of how the prevalence of diseases alleged to be caused by communications equipment has actually changed over time as these technologies have been implemented?
If you're not sufficiently educated to be able to answer at least some of that off the top of your head, then sorry, but that puts you in the category of the fearful ignorant susceptible to pseudoscientific gobbledegook.
Meanwhile, for anyone interested heres a piece that briefly looks into the safety issues. There's plenty more easily found with a very brief search.
https://www.howtogeek.com/423720/how-worried-should-you-be-about-the-health-risks-of-5g/
Then consider: regulations require maximum signal strengths of these communications signals with zero demonstrated harmful characteristics to be in the milliwatts per unit area range. Go outside into the sun, and you are exposing yourself to UV from the sun that is known to be very harmful, at levels thousands of times higher at around 40 watts per square meter.
If a significant proportion of the general public (say >10%) have concerns (rational or not) about the mass roll-out of a particular technological innovation, for example 5G, then surely the onus is on the providers of the technology to win over enough of those with concerns to push that percentage under 10%. A clear and simple presentation of the results of a few recent (say within the last five years) well-designed animal studies (preferably not industry-funded) should do the trick – how hard can it be?
Or just go ahead with the roll-out and let the experiment proceed in real-time. There are plenty of precedents – Vioxx springs to mind.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1779871/
“What’s your driverless car?“
I believe you will find less public patience for soothing fringe protestors after the current crisis. That does unfortunately mean some genuine issues will be ignored as well as outright tinfoil hattery.
Just another bunch of people ready to be radicalised.
They have always existed – and just look at the familiar faces jumping from issue to issue, chemtrails to fluoride to 1080 to 5g.
Hopefully the focus can come back to big harms like mass unemployment and poverty.
Yes, this is my point. They don't disappear when shunned. What they do now (compared to the past) is radicalise. I am not unfamiliar with this community. Nek minit they're voting Trump. The numbers of people into American-style conspiracy theories in NZ seems to be growing, although I'd love to see some research on that to see if it matches my perception.
Better to find some common ground, at the same time as increasing science literacy generally in a unpatronising way.
Compromising with people who resist reality never ends well.
One of the overlaps for me is that while I don't believe that 5G has anything to do with covid, I do understand the general distrust of technology especially as it is being implemented without regard for communities and nature. People who have a different world view than me parse that through anti-govt, libertarian philosophies and when that hits poor understanding of science we get communities of people fitting science erroneously to their beliefs. But the baseline of concerns about tech and the impacts on the world are not without basis.
Hating on them doesn't end well either. I thought we'd learned this lesson already.
not all of them are resistant to reality. There's a difference between not understanding science and rejecting it.
It's political rather than scientific. Not a matter of lack of information or understanding of it.
The similarity with what led to the tea party and Chump is the positioning of technical experts and the public service as an 'elite' – therefore dismissed out of hand as having an agenda that is opposed to the interests of the righteous (white) people's heroes who push rubbish.
Engaging or compromising with that just empowers it. And they will not be doing any compromising themselves. It's like the myth that ignoring bullies stops them.
"It's like the myth that ignoring bullies stops them."
I think that works for my argument not yours.
I'm not sure who you are talking about. The people that I know personally, that live in my community, that are against 5G, are people who understand the value of compromise. They're not anti-elite. They're not the ones going out and burning cell towers, but I bet we can turn some of them into that if we try hard enough.
Who I'm talking about is that whole subculture, many of whom are not extremists or racists or whatever, but who share values with those people around key areas. Shunning them, ridiculing them, is not going to change their minds. They appear to be growing in number, and some of them are radicalising. We're kind of sheltered here in NZ, but I don't see how we are protected from the social transitions happening the UK. Give us another 9 years of fjk, I'm sure we would get there.
All "fringe protesters" are members of the public. Maybe the ‘5G fringe‘ is small and shrinking, but the proliferation of 5G sites will hardly go unnoticed. Living in city where the power cables are underground, the visual pollution alone might warrant a protest
It's interesting to contrast the cautious language used in a recent Swedish report with some dismissive comments here. I would like to see further research on the effects of 5G radiation, even after that horse has bolted.
Thing is, a vast amount of information from studies is already available. It all points in the same direction – that microwaves used for communication do not cause harm.
Yet objectors apparently refuse to educate themselves to the fairly minimal level needed to properly understand the information, or outright refuse to acknowledge the existence and significance of all that information.
Seriously, how does one persuade a flat-earther?
Push em off the edge. 🙂
Cats have been pushing things off the edge since forever. That they haven't yet pushed everything off the edge is pretty good proof the earth isn't flat.
That's because it's primarily a cultural issue not a science one. If we keep treating it as a science only issue then the gap between us and them widens as everyone talks past each other.
This btw is why I generally don't argue the science with antivaxxers. I will point out the issues with their science understanding and things they link to, but the issue isn't about science, it's about world view.
When your talking milliamps and milliwatts as 5 g is very low power 5g is much safer than existing cell towers ,the power wires in your street are emitting hundreds times more radiation.
but you do understand the inverse square law of power over distance don't you?
There's plenty of history with the frequencies to be used for 5G
Usually in highly directed beams that just don't expose people to incident radiation. 5G cells are quite different because inevitably there sheer number of these sites will mean it becomes impossible to avoid exposure.
I've been around radio tech since I was a teenager, and I fully get that 5G is non-ionising and will not cause direct DNA damage. But that doesn't speak to subtle effects, and if nothing else living creature are incredibly complex, subtle molecular mechanisms. And as the wavelength goes down the photon energy goes up, and I'd want to see more work done to understand what may or may not be going on at a biochemical level.
And there are just enough authoritative voices out there saying similar things that I'm inclined to think the 5G industry needs to be doing more work to make it's case. Calling these concerns psuedoscience gobbledegook is the same kind of lofty liberal sneering that labelled middle American voters 'deplorables' … and look how well that worked out.
To me that all looks like caution around what you don't know for sure. Without giving much weight to what is already known and studies that have already been performed.
There have indeed been lots of studies conducted around signals in the GHz range. You remember that question I posed a while ago about how to interpret the results of studies that looked at many different factors using a significance level p<0.05? That was prompted by a 5G study looking at rats that looked at many different tissues, found one set of cells that was possibly affected, then trumpeted it as proof that 5G was harmful. Without also mentioning that the exposed rats lived significantly longer on average than the unexposed rats. That particular study is likely to end up as a textbook study in p-hacking or data-dredging.
https://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2019/04/30/is_5g_wireless_dangerous_no_but_science_may_never_end_the_debate.html
Dennis Frank they just need a few empty vessels
Good RNZ article on regenerative agriculture this morning:
Refreshing eh Red? Been several like programs on Country Calendar. A few decades ago the idea of protecting the soil by not ploughing was proposed but largely rejected. Maybe its time is coming.
… promising moves from large international corporations, pointing to the example of dairy giant Danone…
No, giant corporations, and their billionaire accomplices, are not the solution to anything.
Tough. It's when the big corporates get on board that the real shifts happen. Small individual operators are admirable pioneers, but if you want the numbers to shift you need the big boys to get into the game.
Don't need the "big boys" if they're devastating the local environment, riding roughshod over local communities, as they've done in India. We need their money, however. Democracy is the answer, not the likes of Musk and Gates.
And in the aggregate the locals can be just as conservative and destructive of the local environment as any big multinational.
Nor are all corporates the same, and when they do head in the right direction, even if it isn't far enough, fast enough, or politically pure enough to satisfy everyone, I'm still inclined to read it as an encouraging, positive move. Once you get some real momentum going, capitalism just might save the planet yet.
Wouldn't that just rip your undies?
And in the aggregate the locals can be just as conservative and destructive of the local environment as any big multinational.
You think the local small farmers in India and Africa are "just as destructive" as, say, Monsanto? You are not serious, surely.
capitalism just might save the planet yet.
Like it did in Ecuador and Chile and West Papua? You're not talking about capitalism. You're advocating massive, state-subsidized corporations displacing local farmers completely.
You think the local small farmers in India and Africa are "just as destructive" as, say, Monsanto? You are not serious, surely.
Subsistence level, low productivity farmers tend to clear a lot of land and have big impacts on local wildlife. People forget that three quarters of all de-forestation occurred before industrialisation, that we've been causing megafauna extinctions for millenia. There is nothing especially virtuous about 'local people' living in near poverty, and most of them leap at the chance to move to a better life at the first offered chance.
Nor am I going to defend everything big ag corporates like Monsanto have done either, but it has to be noted that 200 yrs ago 95% of people lived in rural settings working directly in primary industries. Now we have a population roughly seven times greater and yet in the developed world only 5% of people work to produce all the food we need. On the whole that's a pretty remarkable story.
So when big industry players like Danone show they're receptive to lifting their game even further … then I'm counting this as progress. Even when it offends the unreconstructed hippie still lurking in my soul
big industry players like Danone show they're receptive to lifting their game even further
The phrase "even further" implies that Danone is a reputable and responsible corporate citizen. In fact it's the very opposite.
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2013-06-28/breast-milk-scandal-strikes-aptamil-manufacturer-danone
So are you suggesting Danone's expressed intention in 2020 to move toward regenerative ag sourced products is also the 'opposite of reputable and responsible'?
Or maybe the world is a bit more complex than one controversy from one country almost a decade ago. And no babies died.
Today's new (to me anyway) and useful word – autopoiesis. 🙂
Indeed! I wrote it down as well.
Careful Mozza, Vandana Shiva spoke in Planet of the Humans. One of the few that saw that the emperor was wearing no clothes i.e. how good is an electric car if coal is being burnt to recharge it?
You might disturb the sheeple's slumber.
She reminds me of her equally brilliant compatriot Arundhati Roy.
how good is an electric car if coal is being burnt to recharge it?
Technically that's been well understood right from the outset. The assumption was that we'd add the new electricity capacity needed to power EV's with renewables.
It's not a bad plan, but I'm not convinced it's a sufficient one. It's not that EV's are a bad idea, it's that we really haven't paid enough attention to the whole story.
I have an EV. It is powered by home panels and from the grid. The grid is powered by 4% 'dirty' energy' in NZ.
A petrol car is fueled by 100% 'dirty energy'.
The 'sheeple' slur is not appreciated.
The 'sheeple' slur came from gsays, not me.
Renewables work really well in some contexts, and it looks like you've gotten your's working well. Australia and New Zealand are very fortunate that solar and wind renewables make good economic and technical sense … but globally the case is much less obvious. They have their limits, and we should be a lot more clear eyed about that.
Red logistics More and More European countries are putting Solar farms in places where land is not usable.from 2015 till 2019 there has been a massive expansion ,home use and industrial use as well.Motorway roundabouts factory roofs home roofs both photovoltaic water and heat exchanges I noted during extensive Travels .Even in Germany which is colder and has less sunshine than us.
I appreciate that gsays made the sheeples comment. Apologies if you felt it was directed at you. I could have directed that specifically to gsays in a separate comment.
It's ok mac, I got the message.
The film offers a bit of context. Greenwashing to the max was being highlighted.
If it is obvious to you that we have to change our wasteful, energy dense lifestyles pronto, then sheeple doesn't apply to you.
Better than you'd imagine.
Energy efficient. EVs convert over 77% of the electrical energy from the grid to power at the wheels. Conventional gasoline vehicles only convert about 12%–30% of the energy stored in gasoline to power at the wheels.
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/evtech.shtml
Joe 90 using coal generated electricity is 8 times more efficient.Than pumping gas.When all the logistics of pumping oil out of the ground with all the Transport refining and distribution is taken into account.
An EV running entirely off the filthiest coal-fired electricity is still cleaner than a dino-juice burner.
A Tesla Model X will do about 5.6km (open road) to 10 km (round town) per kWh. The worst coal emits around 900g CO2/kWh. So a Tesla Model X powered solely by the nastiest coal emits between 90 and 160 grams CO2 per kilometre. Real life electricity generation mixes are less than half those emissions, unless you're in Poland.
A BMW X5 is a bit smaller, a lot lighter, and way lower performance (except for autobahn top speed). In equivalent situations the X5 emissions are at best around 210 g/km, and closer to 300 is more likely.
"An EV running entirely off the filthiest coal-fired electricity is still cleaner than a dino-juice burner."
This is largely irrelevant in a climate crisis if the number of cars keeps increasing (they do), and if the need to drop GHG far outreaches the savings from petrol to coal powered EV (which it does).
But it is relevant in the context of a discussion about a film that implies there's no difference or that EVs are worse so that people may as well just go ahead and burn the fossil fuel.
https://www.yaleclimateconnections.org/2020/05/michael-moores-planet-of-the-humans-documentary-peddles-dangerous-climate-denial/
For people that take CC seriously, two of the drivers of the push back against EVs is that EVs aren't sustainable in any meaningful sense of the word, and we're too late to convert everything to renewable power driven if we want to drop GHGs. So the argument against the film isn't the one you made, because the one you made doesn't actually prevent climate catastrophe, which is part of what I suspect Moore was on about (maybe. Haven't seen it, but did read Monbiot's piece).
For what it's worth, the only fault I could pick with the film on a single viewing was the clumsy presentation of consumption that suggested population was the basic problem – ie, it didn't really differentiate the consumption of a peasant from that of a billionaire.
I've read quite a few of the so-called critiques that are flying around, and my take-away is basically that people do not like the films message, and so would rather bury it and maintain their comfortable idea that they can have their cake and eat it too. ~shrug~
edit. George Monbiot’s piece is probably the most level headed piece I’ve read, but it’s still a hatchet job. For example, Jeff Gibbs was at a single event and commented only one “leader” (Vandana Shiva) rejected biomass. Which you wouldn’t get from Monbiot who writes – But when the film’s presenter and director, Jeff Gibbs, claims, “I found only one environmental leader willing to reject biomass and biofuels”, he can’t have been looking very far.
"and my take-away is basically that people do not like the films message, and so would rather bury it and maintain their comfortable idea that they can have their cake and eat it too."
That would be my guess. Monbiot would rather the whole world was vegan rather than powering down. His piece is useful, but it's disappointing if he is basically running propagande lines as you report. Same shit on all sides, so sick of this.
I've read quite a few of the so-called critiques that are flying around, and my take-away is basically that people do not like the films message,
I've said several times here that I agree with the fundamental message …. that a lot of what passes as 'green' really isn't really, and in particular both solar and wind renewables while useful, have some important limitations that have all too often been glossed over.
So from that aspect yes there will be quite a few people who don't like the message.
Sadly however the film does make a number of technical mistakes and misdirections that had me shaking my head when I watched it. Handing your opponents easy ways to undermine the message is never smart. Monbiot traverses the territory with practiced ease.
Worse still at the end it really doesn't have anything constructive to say. Which I'm sure suits all the catastrophe addicts who want nothing more than some almighty genocidal collapse to vindicate their dark desires.
Sadly however the film does make a number of technical mistakes and misdirections that had me shaking my head when I watched it
Such as? Because apart from the unfortunate suggestion that energy use is a population issue ( a ‘glitch’ acknowledged and corrected in subsequent interviews), there were no glaring technical flaws caught my attention.
Monbiot traverses the territory with practiced ease.
But Monbiot shouldn't be a natural opponent, and as said above, he was "less than honest" in his Guardian piece.
Lastly, I'm fucked if I understand why Moore et al should be expected to dress up a truth with some message of false hope in any circumstances, but especially when their film is largely about exposing false hopes that have been peddled by some environmental organisations and some of their self appointed leaders.
The technical mistakes have been linked to repeatedly. They can be readily found with a few seconds searching.
I'm fucked if I understand why Moore et al should be expected to dress up a truth with some message of false hope in any circumstances,
Only because the various green movements have irrationally and obdurately rejected the obvious alternative path forward that I've also outlined here. Fucked if I can be bothered repeating myself on this topic yet again.
As I said, it seems important to quite a few peoples these days to insist there is no hope.
The technical mistakes have been linked to repeatedly.
So there are no glaring technical mistakes, just spurious arguments from people mis-characterising arguments and ripping things from context.
And that obvious alternative path you can't be bothered repeating yourself on being the one that's littered with bodies, yes?
There is no point in typing it all out bill. You can only see the path littered with bodies.
If we just stack electric vehicles, on top of existing internal combustion engine ones, there will obviously be no gain. Currently energy use is growing faster than sustainable substitution.
A paradigm shift on how we use transport is required.
If we replace every ICE on the planet with an EV (current and future) and don't reduce GHGs enough, we will still fry. I remain skeptical that it's possible to transition now. If we had started in the 80s, maybe. Best bet atm, is that a rapid shift to EVs will be quickly followed by the desperately neede paradigm shift away from growth economies, and towards systems that are actually sustainable (which EV BAU patently isn't). So, yes, EVs are obviously better than ICEs, in a reductionist, isolated sense. In terms of how they fit into the natural world, the only measurements that matter are if they drop GHGs now, and don't create ecological problems going forward. Hence it's not sufficient to measure ICE to EV (coal or renewable powered). We also have to look at quantity, cradle to grave, and how societies as whole function. We're not there yet and I suspect this is what Moore is pointing to.
Replacing as many ICE, vehicles as we can with EV's, and more efficient forms of transport, even diesel trains and ships emit a lot less carbon per ton km, than road vehicles, though electric is better still, all play a part in reducing green house gases.
It is not green washing. Just physics,
There is no magical fix. Just a whole lot of carbon reducing actions, technologies and changes, which together add up to a major reduction in green house gas production.
Given the reaction to the rather small and temporary changes, in comparison, for covid, I'm not optimistic about Governments doing anything meaningful. They would rather spend trillions on imaginary threats from other countries than on the real threat from AGW. The irony is that the armies would be less needed, if we minimised AGW, helping the global South to advance with more sustainable energy and food supplies, going forward.
Instead of borrowing to pay the third world to make plastic widgets for us, so they can buy their way out of poverty, questionably effective. spend some of the trillions that is used for military defences on getting the surplus food the West produces, to them. And on allowing them to advance with more sustainable energy and resource sources.
Currently the global North, is simply transferring emissions to plants making products for them in the Global South. A fudge. Like Germany closing nuclear power plants, while importing nuclear power across the border.
Charging an electric car from a coal power plant is obviously not the ideal, but it is still less carbon emissions than an internal combustion engine in a car. Simple economies of scale. Just as a large solar power plant is more efficient than individual solar panels on roof tops.
Have you watched the film KJT?
One of the points is electric cars aren't going to save us as a species.We can't keep enjoying the benefits of industrial (fossil fueled) agriculture, nor carry on our wasteful resource ridden lives.
I see these EVs as a similar thing to the plastic bag ban. It lets the sheeple think they have done their bit.
Why would anyone want to waste an hour and 40 minutes when credible experts who have watched say it's full of misdirection, out-of-date information and outright falsehoods? Especially when just a few minutes of research verifies that the experts are correct and the film is wrong.
Here's yet another review, this time from George Monbiot, that takes just a few minutes to read:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/07/michael-moore-far-right-climate-crisis-deniers-film-environment-falsehoods
Yep gave that a read, and the links to the sources cited by Monbiot.
I learnt that he reckons biomass generators are renewable…
Burning the lungs of the planet for electricity!
For anyone that is interested here is a 17min clip with Moore, Gibbs and Zehner answering crticisms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bop8x24G_o0&feature=youtu.be
Take homes are:
We need to stop biggering.
Only a friend can tell a friend when they have got it wrong.
The pandemic has achieved more for the environment than 5 decades of environmentalism.
The film is meant as a conversation starter.
As just about every reviewer points out, biomass for electricity is a tiny part of electricity generation in the few places it gets used. It's very likely to go away very quickly if a bit of rationality starts getting applied to GHG emissions and electricity generation. That the film apparently gives it so much attention is one of the more egregious bits of misdirection in the film. As such, the film is a step away from rationality, and a boon to fossil fuel suppliers that benefit from the misdirection and confusion.
No, I'm not interested in wasting 17 minutes on further misdirection. Video as a medium works very well for playing on emotions and thereby misleading people. But it's crap for conveying good information. As well as being painfully slow.
So, you don't watch the film because of other peoples reckons.
You draw conclusions about the film because of those reckons.
Do you accept that there may have been other messages that are reasonable and necessary that have not been addressed by said reckons?
Edit. I have just clicked that it is foolhardy to try and engage with someone about something they haven’t experienced.
I didn't watch the film because recognised experts pointed out many flaws and errors in the film, that I am able to independently verify.
It is indeed theoretically possible there are important messages that all of those experts missed. But sit through an hour and forty minutes of what has already been proven to be a lot of garage in the hope that there might be some nuggets they have missed? No thanks.
Especially not on the sayso of some internet random that can't even point to that nugget, but instead points to a piece of garbage that has already been analysed as garbage. Nor do Gibbs or Moore have any history that gives me any reason to believe they may have any unusual insight into renewable energy which might make it worth taking a chance on committing the time.
The said reckons are in denial and tend to offer up smears rather than honest engagement. I've given one fairly typical example of a writer ripping things out of context to generate doubt (The example of George Monbiot in a response to a comment by Weka a few comments up thread).
A common criticism is that the electric car footage was from ten years back, as though the basic message that running an electric anything from energy that emits carbon (ie – the energy for charging) isn't really 'green' only carried water ten years ago.
And I'm buggered if I can see where the whole "in bed with the fossil industry" criticism comes from. Anyway…
There was a virus from a pangolin knocked emissions on the head short term, but we decided we'd take a punt at going back to business as usual because we really, really like playing the capitalist game of "pretend and extend". 👿
Having read his Guardian article and the links within it I see another intelligent person kinda missing some of the points.
The biomass is ok, it just uses wood pellets… The notion of burning the earths lungs as a 'renewable' energy source is baffling. Capatilism has backed it so must be a winner.
Maybe because Moore is involved it has got folk antsy. Perhaps there is an Assangeness to him, they both piss off important people.
His physique shows that Moore takes more energy from the environment than he expends.
His spectacle frames look like plastic and his clothing is likely synthetic and produced with hazard to the environment.
https://www.scirp.org/Html/4-8301582_17027.htm
An option would be to eat less, use his body more and support craft industries by wearing naturally dyed clothing made from natural fibres.
Electric cars, along with a lot of other things, are all part of the answer.
Just as is changing the paradigm, of how we use them.
Just substituting electric cars that are identical in use, financing and capability to the current petrol and diesel cars, is not going to work.
The film was too nihilist for my liking, and had glaring inaccuracies and assumptions.
In regards to the film being nihilistic.
There isn't a way, and the message shouldn't be sugar-coated: As a species, we are in the shit.
Like the virus, here in Aotearoa we are blessed to be removed from the worst of the consequences of the buggered planet.
If electric cars could be manufactured using sources of energy that were zero carbon, and then charged by energy sources that were zero carbon, then they might be a part of a solution. The same goes for solar panels and windmills and anything else.
I dare say it's theoretically possible to produce a solar panel in a factory that is entirely powered by non carbon emitting energy, and that sources raw materials for the panels using energy from zero carbon sources, and that distributes, constructs and maintains those panels using no carbon emitting sources of energy.
That still leaves out many factors such as the degradation caused by any mining for materials (whether or not that mining's done with energy that's emissionless).
We need to use substantially less energy than we do now, and switch what we will still use to come from emission free sources. (And hope like hell that the current excess of some trillion tonnes of CO2 we’ve already kicked into the atmosphere doesn’t give us and the planet too much of a kicking over coming centuries)
Pretending that windmills with their huge concrete platforms and solar and whatever else can be rolled out over the space of a few decades to replace fossil and other deleterious sources of energy such that we can carry on "as is", when energy consumption is rising faster than so-called 'green' energies are being deployed, and the yearly increase in fossil consumption outstrips any increase in so-called 'green' energies, is utter delusion.
Nothing is, zero carbon emissions, Bill, including us.
All we can ever do, is reduce the rate of entropy.
In terms of energy, there are zero carbon sources. The wind, the sun and water are obviously zero carbon. Capturing that energy in a way that doesn't create carbon is the trick.
Not a "trick" that is possible. Even building solar and wind power plants require carbon and methane producing humans, if nothing else.
The point is we need a whole lot of adaptive actions towards sustainability.
Reduced energy use, more efficient energy use, carbon sinkage such as renewing forests, more sustainable sources of energy, are all, required.
k – so there are about one trillion excess tonnes of CO2, courtesy of us, floating around the biosphere that has been building since the 19th C, and we add about 30 or 40 billion tonnes to that total every year.
It takes natural processes many hundreds of years to sequester that carbon. Planting trees won't, doesn't and can't cut it.
Or put another way – thanks to the joys of exponential growth, more than half of all the CO2 in the biosphere related to human activity throughout history has been spewed there in my lifetime. And governments acknowledged there was a problem about half way through my life (1991)…and have utterly failed to do anything by way of cutting emissions.
Which is really smart given the problem is cumulative. (I actually sometimes wonder if there are people who assume the world will return to a non-warmed state in a short period of time if and when we stop emitting carbon)
The only question is how hot do we think we can go before we stop? Or are we just going to let physics call the shots and hope we survive?
Well basically. If we do nothing, we are fucked.
If we try, we may unfuck it a bit.
On the current trajectory, be prepared for billions of deaths, billions of climate refugees, and an economic fallout that will make Covid look like a minor chill!
I hear what you're saying, and would agree – except that if we literally did nothing it would go a long way as a first step. What's been the estimated drop in emissions off the back of "every bugger" locking down?
Processes can be carbon neutral though, and we're not yet trying to achieve that in any real sense.
If I burn firewood (carbon emissions) and I plant trees that sequester that, then carbon neutral. So far, so obvious. If I use regenerative farming, I can sequester more than I emit with the burning. If I buy a woodstove that was manufactured using renewables that themselves are not carbon neutral (cradle to grave), best make sure that that woodstove will last hundreds of years, not 20 or 50, and that it is *super efficient. Likewise the chainsaw.
Use the wood heat in multiple ways (space heating, hot water, cooking, drying clothes and so on). It's those things that reduce and conserve energy in other ways. When we look at the whole system, we can design it to be carbon neutral at worst, or a carbon sink at best. But we do that for things that are essential (food, shelter, heat, medicine, not $2 shops and a new iphone every year).
Some things will always break the bank, we can mitigate that in other ways, But again, only for stuff that really matters.
Now look at EVs in that context. Which EVs actually matter? How can we design the whole system so that it's not polluting and extractive beyond what nature can manage? (Where is all the metal going to keep coming from?).
While emissions from the US and Europe have contributed the most to the buildup of GHGs so far, and are still grossly disproportionate per capita emitters. they are actually slowly falling. The increases are coming from developing countries improving the living standards of their citizens. Shown in graphical form here with just a little bit of scrolling down from where it opens:
https://ourworldindata.org/co2-and-other-greenhouse-gas-emissions
You interested in telling them they have to hold back on improving the lives of their citizens? I'm not. But I am interested in developing ways for them to improve their lives while avoiding the mistakes we made that have dumped the planet in the shit. Engineering-wise, that means renewable energy that is cheaper and better than fossil-fuels, and life-improving stuff like fridges and indoor climate control etc that needs less energy while performing better.
Yes, it is possible for all land-based energy users to convert to renewable electric, or in a very few cases involving very high process heat temperatures, hydrogen (or it may work out better to use some kind of biofuel in a very few applications). It won't even be particularly difficult for most users. It's just a matter of cost, and fossils are still cheap because they get to dump their hazardous waste into the atmosphere for free.
As RedLogix keeps hammering, it all boils down to availability of low cost energy-dense, dispatchable on demand sources. Historically the only practical choice has been fossil, but the advancements in renewables over the last decade means we can shake our fossil dependence as quickly as we choose to.
The only application I can bring to mind that has no readily available substitute for the energy density of liquid hydrocarbon fuel is long-haul aviation. But that's off the menu for a while anyway.
Historically the only practical choice has been fossil…
Nope. The industrial revolution was initially powered by water. Even with the advent of the coal fired steam engine, mills stuck with water because of better efficiency and lower cost.
The shift to steam was a somewhat complex story that arguably came down to a desire or need to control the then nascent working class.
The stories out of Stuff and the herald complaining about the Governments response were to be expected even if they are wrong.
The one thing I have noticed about the Governments response is that right from the start they assumed that a large portion of the population is as thick as pigshit and that the advice and rules needed to be very clear and precise. And that is why thousands and thousands of Kiwi families are not holding funerals for mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters and children.
If you hear anyone complaining, just tell them to shut up and if they still have a problem tell them to come and see me and all my over 70 mates.
Most people now read overseas news have family and friends overseas.
Everyone is praising NZ's response.
Those crying Wolf are making themselves look bad.
Looking at Australia their reinfection rate has gone to 1.4% ours is still around .84% making it less likely to open borders with Australia.
Most of the new cases in Australia have come from a single cluster in Mebourne – a meat works. Shouldn't have happened as the employer had already been told that 2 of the workers had tested positive some time ago.It's a lesson in just how fast a cluster can explode without constant attention. Otherwise, 5 of the states and territories have had no new cases, WA and the NT for 2 weeks, now, so not that bad, just a bit more varied than NZ. Think with what JA has said about Level 2 restrictions in NZ, all the East coast states here will actually be more restrictive in comparison.
Melbourne has had almost 100 new cases in last 4 days and the cluster has now gone into a aged care where there is a spark comes a fire
Australia doesn't report probable cases so NZs rate of infection is much lower nearly 10,000 cases NZ 1,150 cases .
Australia having 40% more case's
A lot of the population is as thick as pigshit and the advice and rules needed to be very clear and precise, exact. And then some of them, and others who aren't as thick as pigshit, deny and defy the advice and rules.
Act like babies then complain about being treated like babies. Say 'trust us' and show they aren't to be trusted. Say they'll do everything right then complain when there's a request to dob in 'independent souls' like themselves.
It's just people.
If it is a minority putting this plan at risk then it's (subjectively) seeming like a significantly large minority getting bigger by the day, and a significant amount of them seem to live in my suburb. If so many people are completely incapable of basic common courtesy just using a footpath then why the hell are we bothering. I finally stopped being 'kind' today and screamed at a couple who didn't feel the need to stop hogging the entire path and briefly single file to allow space to pass. A near daily occurrence now.
"If you hear anyone complaining, just tell them to shut up and if they still have a problem tell them to come and see me and all my over 70 mates"
Sounds terrifying – that should shut them up! Though maybe not as terrifying as your experience of being in the front row when the custodians of "the economy" go looking for human sacrifices to keep it all running.
Yeah AB, we could bore for New Zealand, couple of hours with us and Covid would look like a preferable option.
They had to assume from the start, that anything over one syllable would be too complicated for our, so called, Journalists. As has been proven.
It is even worse when people who are supposedly competent, to run a farm or business, seem incapable of working out and comprehending simple, safety procedures.
When your target audience is the whole public, all communication needs to work for people without English as a first language, with impaired learning, etc.
Whereas the truly ignorant have shown us they can miss the point no matter what efforts are made. Too many of them have columns and shows.
The one thing I have noticed about the Governments response is that right from the start they assumed that a large portion of the population is as thick as pigshit and that the advice and rules needed to be very clear and precise.
An absence of sophistry,was (an is still) needed.The only solution is isolate,and eliminate.We do not need great yarns on the R0 number,the genome,its origin etc.The formal response was to quarantine NZ ,raise the drawbridge and let those who are unclean stay outside the camp (or under constraint).
Those who are aspiring for business as usual (or a return to BAU) are either in denial,or illiterate (here we define illiteracy as an inability to learn )
The unsurprising fact of both simple measures,and simple communication in a complex world,is they have worked.
I see the universities are wanting to bring their overseas students back ( & put them through quarantine).
If this gets any traction I'd want to see a level of quarantine offshore first( so they don't get into our health system with all those risks) plus the border quarantine here. I would absolutely not want any quarantine arrangements that have been privatised, outsourced etc. where there is a profit motive in running them and the usual inefficient oversight that would make it high risk.
"The government should definitely impose strict quarantine at the borders, except for all the exceptions, which will be whoever is in the news today".
(statement released by the Blame Jacinda Regardless Party).
Listen up young fellas…
https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/1258488918036676609
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1258488918036676609.html
Tasmanian Ryk Goddard: "we’ve got a lot in common, starting with our suspicion of mainland Australia." https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/08-05-2020/the-case-for-a-conscious-post-covid-coupling-of-new-zealand-and-tasmania/
"In recent days the Tasmanian state premier, Peter Gutwein, and the New Zealand foreign minister, Winston Peters, have been thinking aloud and enthusiastically about accelerating the bubble extension between the two places. They’re on to something. And it goes deeper than our relative success in stamping out Covid-19."
Temperate climate with rain forests. "AFL is rugby crossed with ballet and improvised dance. It’s harder than rugby in the sense it’s 360-degree. It’s easier in that it doesn’t have full-on forwards." Sheesh.. 😵 I'll try to keep that in mind, but won't be easy.
"Tassie was locked in a bitter ecological war between the Greens (which they invented, by the way) and three guys who went to private school together and loved chopping down trees for no profit." Good movie to come, huh?
And "the New Zealand accent for which I was mercilessly shamed for 15 years is now sexy to anyone under 40." Sic a sociologist onto that pronto. We need to know why.
"Tassie has a walkway in a forest and a slide into a swamp called Dismal swamp. It went broke actually. That’s what happens when a government funded business tries to do tourism. But we’re working at it." Sounds like they need a PPP. 🙄
I have long advocated for us to buy tasmania. mainland aussies dont want it. we could get it fairly cheaply. the advantages of having a large offshore island to dump unwanted waste etc on would be worth the monthly repayments.
A thousand New Zealanders a day going onto a benefit: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12330543
Winston leaking Farrar? "the internal polls of the National Party are at 25 per cent." https://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=12330544
"Everybody out on the farm if they're actually honest has to admit that with the dollar being far further down than it was under the National Party – for heaven's sake it was about 80 cents US under the National Party sometimes – well we've got it at a level far more remunerative for farming."
"We're dealing with the Three Waters and the changes there will be of enormous assistance to farmers. We've made a commitment to ensure that the change was a change we would pay for – not them."
So if you know a guy who wears a black singlet & gumboots, see if the good news has trickled down to him yet.
Who cares about Winston?
If he is correct, he is redundant.
Act senior party members accused of sexual harrasment of junior female party members.Tough on Crime Party needs to turn itself in to a private prison and take full responsibility for their actions.They will be paying for their own prosecution and imprisonment.
…..Not sure how this relates to the post, but all good.
Now this is a space to watch: "A $24 million solution to the lower North Island's recycling crisis is being pitched to the Government for "shovel-ready" funding." https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/121410538/feilding-pitches-24m-plastic-processing-facility-to-government
"New Zealand's recycled plastic is shipped overseas to Malaysia, Thailand or the Philippines, but a proposed centre would reprocess much of it in Manawatū. The proposal would curb pricey shipping fees and importing plastic back into the country."
"The equipment is commercially available. The land is owned by the council and already used for recycling. The project will collect all grades of plastic, including agricultural plastic, from the lower North Island. The plastic will then be cleaned, sorted and reprocessed into pellets or flakes. The finished product can be mixed with virgin plastic and used for normal plastic manufacture."
this is worth following up on. we need to get properly serious about recycling ,and leaving it to the mythical free market is bollocks. also needs to happen with tyres, its a huge problem.
Could be a good call. Investment at $25 mill is less than that flag referendum and I assume it would run at least at breakeven. I'd be happy to subscribe to any capital raising for it. Even at say 2.5% its more than most banks are paying. Be good if they had a bit of extra capital as well – so that where possible we transfer to bio degradable type products and recycle those to take us into the furture.
The Conspiracy Theory Handbook pdf talked about in the Skeptical Science link in the sidebar is really worth reading. Following the sidebar takes a few clicks, the final download button is on this page:
https://www.climatechangecommunication.org/conspiracy-theory-handbook/
Is Michael Dukakis still available?
Get ready for a disaster in early November….
Have you watched Saager's propaganda vid boosting the neocon's favourite CIA-backed terror group?
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ENJETI: So, if the Iranian regime were to fall and Ms. Rajavi she was able to govern, could she be able to govern during a transition period? Do you think she could prevent the chaos?
GIULIANI: Well, what they do, what they—these are the questions of course we ask them all the time, and I’ve seen evidence that they have a functioning government-in-exile. They evaluate the problems in Iran every day. They are enormously active in communicating within Iran. They remind me of the Voice of American in one aspect during the Cold War, which used to broadcast into =
ENJETI: Absolutely.
https://www.californiasdi.org/iran-the-untold-story-part-nine/
https://thehill.com/branded-content?prx_t=0y8FAoEs7AQqkQA
That have anything to do with the video Joe?…
Enjeti played soft ball with the MEK. Dude's not to be trusted.
https://www.steamboatinstitute.org/person/saagar-enjeti/
The dudes openly a right wing populist. The show has one from the right and one from the left as co hosts.
I know strange way to do the news in this partisan hack era.
And yeah take what Saager says knowing he a right wing populist.
You're correct in your assessment of his character, Joe. I can't understand how anyone with a heart and a conscience, leave alone an intellect such as Enjeti clearly possesses, can have anything to do with groups like MEK, or AIPAC, or the Republican/Democratic Party.
His commentary on American party politics, however, is astute and far superior to anything on CNN or Fox or MSNBC.
The most transparent president ever is asking the courts to block details of an investigation that exonerated him.
The Trump administration on Thursday asked the Supreme Court to shield redacted grand jury materials related to former special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia probe from the Democratic-led House.
The 37-page request, filed by the Justice Department, asks the justices to temporarily block the release of transcripts and other documents that Democratic lawmakers initially requested as part of the House impeachment inquiry into President Trump.
The move comes after a federal appeals court in Washington ruled earlier this year that the administration could not keep under wraps certain materials stemming from Mueller's 22-month investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/496609-trump-admin-asks-supreme-court-to-shield-secret-mueller-grand-jury
The Wall Street ticker is carrying on like not much is going on. Why aren't stocks tanking? Why haven't McDonalds, Starbucks and Vegas casinos got leprosy?
When Warren Buffet is liquidating, turning his holdings into cash and gold, something heavy is going down. Normally it costs $2k+ to sit in on Warren's annual address, in Corona times he made it free. He didn't look well.
Part of it is valuations are based on how much money investors expect companies to make, which partly depends on how fast the Repugs and Adderolf Covitler can shovel alleged relief funds at companies instead of at those that actually need them and will spend them.
Part of it is hopium for a V-shaped recovery, egged on by the Coppertone Caligula's pronouncements and focus on reopening the economy. Never mind that sick and dead people don't do much for the economy.
Part of it is there's nowhere else particularly attractive to shift money to.
Ha yes, a safe investment today would require floating the Red Cross.
Gold and cash is safe, for now. I try to parasite onto the thoughts of people that know more than me. The King of what shares to buy when has just sold everything, cashed up. You don't need to be a share Guru to read the message.
reply button helps 😉
It saddens me and the Chinese people I know that their nation has the CCP doing their window-dressing. The display is wanting.
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2005/S00049/can-our-grandchildren-be-our-creditors.htm
"Debt need not be the bogey which it is often portrayed as. The principal return on coming government emergency outlays will of course be the resurrected and reimagined supply chains, and the incomes (including tax revenues) they generate. Our children and grandchildren will be foremost among those beneficiaries. We can credit them".