web analytics

Open Mike 13/06/2018

Written By: - Date published: 6:00 am, June 13th, 2018 - 261 comments
Categories: open mike - Tags:

Open mike is your post.

For announcements, general discussion, whatever you choose. The usual rules of good behaviour apply (see the Policy).

Step up to the mike …

261 comments on “Open Mike 13/06/2018”

  1. Tamati Tautuhi 1

    12/6/18 Trolling Pick Six Results – Quaddie

    We only got 4 legs so we got the Quaddie, 2 x legs short of Pick Six yesterday Gosman was in the race early along with Alwyn, Mullet Head appeared early especially after Winston had made some moves the previous evening, Baby Gaga appeared mid day and started stirring as per usual.

    Leg 1 Gosman
    Leg 2 Alwyn
    Leg 3 Mullet Head
    Leg 4 Baby Gaga

    • Stunned Mullet 1.1

      Huzzah another race caller for Daisycutter Sports Inc.

      New talent is so hard to come by.

    • chris73 1.2

      I obviously have been derelict in my duties if I’m not getting a mention

      • Wensleydale 1.2.1

        Yeah, come on, Chris. Pull your finger out, mate. The Standard doesn’t troll itself you know.

    • Ad 1.3

      If you want to keep vilifying and bullying commenters, all you do is look more and more like Whaleoil, Jason Ede, and the rest of the right wing guys that Rawshark warned us all about.

      Stop attacking the commenters and start generating better argument.

      • adam 1.3.1

        In essence I agree with you Ad, but some days you get a break from working, and a ‘hate in’ by the usual suspects is in full swing here on the standard.

        By the time you scroll past all the BS, it is just simpler to give up and go to another forum for a more engaging conversation. Then hope the next day it won’t be dominated by another ‘hate in’.

      • WILD KATIPO 1.3.2

        Its called ironic humour , mate .

        And pretty tame compared to anything Whaleoil ever spewed out.

        Get a grip on yourself , cob.

    • Enough is Enough 1.4

      A Troll is not someone who has a different political perspective to your own.

      What is wrong with your view of the world being challenged?

    • Baba Yaga 1.5

      It is indeed a great honour and privilege to be considered in the same illustrious company as those mentioned above. I assure all readers of The Standard that while this added responsibility will at times weigh heavily on my shoulders, I will not shirk from my responsibility to you all.

      Thanks You again.

      BY

  2. Tamati Tautuhi 2

    The old neoliberal Goof Ball under pressure at Auckland City Council ?

  3. AsleepWhileWalking 3

    There is a widely held view, including among public servants, that officials in the past two decades have focused too tightly on serving ministers, even at times anticipating and then serving up what their ministers might want to hear. Mr Hipkins sums it up as them asking ministers: “What advice would you like?”

    Explains a lot.

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/359453/is-public-service-working-for-mps-or-the-public

  4. cleangreen 4

    Well done Tamati Tautuhi,

    We do now need to keep a daily count on these national trollls weho may be actuallly working on behalf of cameron Slater and the national party together.

    So we need to keep on their tail showing how they are trying to sway the whle NZ election process going forward as they appear to enjoy attacking most other bloggers now.

    Can you keep up your excellent daily reviews for watching these national trolls ‘activities’.

    • Tamati Tautuhi 4.1

      We also have to be very careful how much we feed the trolls, as they can consume a lot of precious time and energy ?

      • Antoine 4.1.1

        Some of the people mentioned are not trolls (as far as I can see).

        James, chris73, stunnedmullet, Puckish Rogue, Gosman and Alwyn appear to be broadly sincere (if sometimes snarky or provocative) right wingers.

        There is no guarantee that everyone you will meet here will be left wing. At least the RW guys provide someone you can have an argument with. It would be boring if everyone agreed all the time.

        Baba Yaga and the Chairman I think are trolls, that is they do not believe what they say and are just here to wind you up. The Standard could do without them, but they are bound to cop a ban at some point so I wouldn’t worry too much.

        A.

        • alwyn 4.1.1.1

          “Alwyn appear to be broadly sincere”.
          Why thank you, kind Sir. Of course I must admit that if you really want to make me snarky the best way is to lie and accuse me of being in the National Party.
          Never have been and never will be a member of any Political Party.
          In that regard I am like Groucho Marx.
          https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/groucho_marx_122546

          • In Vino 4.1.1.1.1

            What about accusing you of being over-histrionic? (kind Sir, thou foul knave, etc.)
            And not being a member of a political party does not prevent you from having political bias inherent in your comments. Few here would see you as Left or Centrist….

            • alwyn 4.1.1.1.1.1

              Rather than warbling on here I thought you might have looked at my reply to a comment you made in yesterdays OM.

              Open Mike 12/06/2018


              You would have discovered there that your opinions on New Zealand’s Minimum wage were as erroneous as most of your opinions.
              Why don’t you have a look at it now? You will learn something about a topic on which you have, to date, displayed total ignorance.

              • In Vino

                Idiot. My comparison was with what the rubbish collectors would have been getting paid before NZ got turned into a low-wage economy. I was comparing current miserable wages to workshop, and contrasting them to the decent wages NZers got before rogernomics, etc.
                Had you read more carefully – but your way is to deliberately misinterpret, cherrypick, then add insults.
                You do yourself no credit at all, and you still need a healthier pastime.

                • alwyn

                  Your complete comment was this.
                  “alwyn, I would put it to you that the minimum wage is now so low that it is the equivalent of a sheltered workshop wage.
                  How desperate would you have to be to do hard, physically hurtful labour like picking Kiwifruit for possibly less than $15 an hour? (They jiggle it by paying by the basket, I believe.)
                  Be honest.”
                  Rubbish collectors? Rogernomics?
                  I defy anyone to take this to be saying anything like what you are now claiming. At least anyone with an IQ of more than room temperature.

                  • In Vino

                    How foolish of me! I was going to apologise, because the thread I was referring to was further down the screen than the source you gave.
                    But then I looked at the time of each comment, and saw that you had in fact read all the thread before you commented, attacking me.
                    My reply stands, and those who wish to understand fully should take alwyn’s link above and read on.., way down that thread.
                    alwyn, your false righteousness reveals you as a weaselly, loathsome knave. Begone. Nobody likes cheats.

                    • alwyn

                      I really think you should sit down. It is sad to see but you have reached the seventh stage described so vividly by a great writer about four centuries ago.
                      “Last scene of all,
                      That ends this strange eventful history,
                      Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
                      Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.”

                      I suggest that you should sit down and try and relax. That nice attendant will be around shortly with a cup of Milo and your pills.
                      I’m afraid the only part of this comment of yours that is accurate is the first sentence where you admit “How foolish of me”.

        • Baba Yaga 4.1.1.2

          I don’t post anything I don’t believe. At times I have been proven wrong, and have accepted the instruction graciously. Along with one ban.

        • WILD KATIPO 4.1.1.3

          … ‘ It would be boring if everyone agreed all the time ‘ …

          Boring?

          What , … people dying in Pike River due to AWOL health and Safety standards and lack of Mines Inspectors due to business interests, foreign banks and their grabastic shareholders whims , coupled with a govt that progressively detoothed Union intervention?

          Or children dying of third world preventable respiratory diseases in cold damp moldy state houses that were left to degrade in order for the National party to enable an open door to privatization of rental accommodation for the poor???

          That’s merely boring???

          Nah mate , – that’s fucking criminal.

          Childhood diseases in the land of milk and poverty – NZ Herald
          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11913334

          Fuck off ya bastard.

    • Ed 4.2

      Great work Tamati Tautuhi.
      These trolls are scum and ruin this site.

      • tc 4.2.1

        Dunno about that, I work with plenty who could play that part. It pays to understand their twisted memes.

        Born and raised rurals who haven’t left the colonial 19th century attitudes behind and suck up the msm swill as if it’s valid intelligent material. Blaming and slagging off whoever the msm instruct them to.

        Sadly NZ is full of them, gos and co are simply reflective of that.

        They’re the ones who vote every single time driven by that superiority complex mostly about being here first….yes it’s still about that sadly in 2018.

        • Gosman 4.2.1.1

          I love how you’ve created this strawman caricature of this Right leaning person and then applied it without thought to someone regardless of reality. Bravo on doing that.

          For your information I never take what the MSM states as the absolute truth and try and get my information from multiple sources but by all means cvontinue to believe your fantasyland creation.

      • Tamati Tautuhi 4.2.2

        I try and stay away from this site as it has turned into a Kindegarten or Day Care Centre for demented adults ?

        • Observer Tokoroa 4.2.2.1

          Thank you Tamati Tauhui

          We need to keep track of the time wasters, otherwise known as trolls, for they keep driving on the wrong side of sanity. Which is very bad for the Kindergarten they belong to.

          Gosman can put his shaky hand on anything and twist it inside out. I think of the damage he does to the children who follow him about as he drips sugar from his drool.

          Chris 73 is an interesting one. Is he Christine? Christopher or Christ. He seems as coherent as anyone of the Capitalist Cult Creeps – Simon. Who also struggles to know what he is, and why he is, or when he is. He is the Leader of the Cult of Greed. Next week he will be studying how to button up a coat. Crikey.

          • In Vino 4.2.2.1.1

            With the benefit of hindsight, I do not exactly trust this Tamati Tauhui guy, and suspect that he has had a ball today sucking us in.

          • Tamati Tautuhi 4.2.2.1.2

            I am guessing Gosman regularly [What brought this on? Deleted for flaming – MS], probably belongs to the same pony tail pulling club as one of our previous leaders.

      • solkta 4.2.3

        it is always so ironic when trolls complain about trolls.

        • In Vino 4.2.3.1

          I see you were onto it straight away, yet I and so many others missed it. Well done.

          • solkta 4.2.3.1.1

            I was referring and responding to Ed.

            • In Vino 4.2.3.1.1.1

              Sorry, I should have looked at reply number more carefully.
              I think TT has sucked us in a beauty with his troll register when he himself is on their side, and he sucked Ed in as well.
              Below, you will see that ‘Enough is Enough’ twigged before I did.
              Either a great rort that actually deserves a round of applause, or I am a silly old duffer.

      • James 4.2.4

        Scum? Oh come on Eddie. That’s not nice.

        I know you militant vegans hate opposing views but scum that does not make.

      • mauī 4.2.5

        These trolls are scum. Well said Ed

  5. Tamati Tautuhi 5

    In the real world it is called “sucking cock” ?

    • James 5.1

      And this is the level that the standard has sunk to since Weka left.

      Classy post. Keep it up and drive more and more people away from the site.

      • Enough is Enough 5.1.1

        And since r0b left. I miss that boy

        • alwyn 5.1.1.1

          The one I miss most was Lanthanide. He was a person you could debate with. He was always willing to consider a different point of view and behave like an adult.
          The Standard has degenerated badly since he ceased to contribute. Mind you, I think he gave up commenting here because he saw, earlier than most, what the new breed of twits like T.T were doing to the debates. Abuse replaced the reason that he exemplified.

    • Antoine 5.2

      What’s wrong with sucking cock

      A.

      • Puckish Rogue 5.2.1

        I’m a big supporter of oral sex 🙂 (but only with consent and following all legal guidelines)

        • In Vino 5.2.1.1

          Antoine, your comment really needed a question mark. Otherwise, the rest of your paragraph is missing.
          But you are actually encouraging James’s faux concern, aren’t you? Like PR.

          • solkta 5.2.1.1.1

            It may be fake concern but his point is valid.

            • In Vino 5.2.1.1.1.1

              Yes, I personally disapprove of Tamati Tautuhi’s faux pas.
              (Deliberate? – But who is he, a Leftie? A black flag plant? I don’t remember seeing much from him on this site…)
              But I disapprove much more of the sanctimonious way James and PR are rushing to inflame the issue.

    • Gosman 5.3

      Doesn’t that qualify as homophobic?

      • James 5.3.1

        Next Tamaki will be advocating for a bit of gay bashing – sad to see this level of behaviour anywhere these days.

        Amazing the people who have NOT called him out on it.

        • In Vino 5.3.1.1

          James, as I pointed out above, your faux concern is a bit obvious, and few care about your fake sadness.

          • James 5.3.1.1.1

            As you also seem not to care about the homophobic comments being used in this site.

        • alwyn 5.3.1.2

          You leave the Bishop alone James. At least you were not fooled by him using a pen name of Tamati. Follow his advice, and tithe, and he will lead you on the paths of righteousness. And good luck as you trail along wearing sackcloth and ashes like the Vino man.

        • Tamati Tautuhi 5.3.1.3

          Tamati is actually bisexual and does not get involved in gay bashing.

          • In Vino 5.3.1.3.1

            May I recommend self-flagellation? I am not in your category, but over the years I have known people to try it.

  6. Zorb6 6

    The more diverse opinion the better imo.
    Too easy to write people off as trolls.

    • cleangreen 6.1

      Nah; Zorb6

      As social bullying increases with these trolls, more ‘fair minded commenters’ refrain from contributing to the posts; – as we have sen time and time again so we need to encourage free flowing comments not buying as we all see today with those bunch of trolls always attacking in a “pack together”.

      It is not the number of blogs that should determine the quality of a blogsite but the ‘constructive contents’ of those sites.

      • Tamati Tautuhi 6.1.1

        Cleangreen the problem is they get into a feeding frenzy like a pack of rabid hyenas when they smell a bit of blood ?

        • Puckish Rogue 6.1.1.1

          It’s called holding the government to account. Same as when National was in power and posters gleefully made lists of Nationals, alleged, broken promises or do you think the present government should just get a free pass with no criticism?

          • Wensleydale 6.1.1.1.1

            There was nothing “alleged” about National’s hefty list of lies and broken promises. If it were any more substantial you could probably beat someone to death with it. Having said that, no, the coalition should not get a free pass. They should be held to the same standard as any other government in terms of honesty. The problem is National doesn’t seem able to do that without resorting to mind-blowing levels of hypocrisy.

            • Tamati Tautuhi 6.1.1.1.1.1

              ie Dirty Politics 101 & 102

            • Puckish Rogue 6.1.1.1.1.2

              Agreed, I’d bring in Judith Collins as leader to start to apply the blow torch but i was more referring to some of the posters on here.

              It seems to be, to some, that to point out the present governments failings or broken promises is trolling

              • Tamati Tautuhi

                I agree with you Puck I think they should definitely replace Simon No Bridges with Judith Collins at least she has got some balls ?

            • Gosman 6.1.1.1.1.3

              I presume you are aware the only other opposition party is ACT with one MP. Would you prefer they were ta larger party in Opposition would you? If not, who do you want to hold the government to account given you think National can’t do it?

          • Stuart Munro 6.1.1.1.2

            Most of the troll critique is not factually based – nor is the Gnat’s in parliament, which is why they’re not getting much traction.

            There is indeed a role for principled dissent – the moral vacuum the Gnats have become simply aren’t capable of providing it, and what they do provide isn’t particularly useful.

      • James 6.1.2

        “In the real world it is called “sucking cock” ?”

        Would this be the kind of social bullying you are talking about cleangreen?

        Or are you ok with this kind of comment if you don’t like who it’s said too?

    • Ad 6.2

      Exactly right Zorb 6.

      The more complacent the left becomes now that Labour and Greens are in government, the more the temptation by the left to simply bully and degrade commenters who disagree with them. It’s a simple temptation of power.

      Far better to win hearts and minds with honey than with vinegar.
      As my mother used to say.

      • Grey Area 6.2.1

        That’s not what I hear people saying. What some are highlighting is that there is a small group of posters here whose MO seems always to snipe, hector and carp, and demonstrate no interest in really engaging in debate and/or showing any interest in changing their mind.

        People call them out not for having an alternative point of view as you seem to say, rather for their consistent negative, sometimes nasty tone and attitudes which can make the Standard a real drag.

        Some people here, thankfully not many, just seem to get their jollies in this unhealthy and unhelpful way.

        • Puckish Rogue 6.2.1.1

          I can only speak for myself here (all jokes about being a paid troll aside) but I know that in certain areas some of my positions have changed due to the arguments I’ve heard on here, from people who’ve earned my respect

          The real issue is that my position changes due to how logical and well presented the argument is but, like most I suspect, I don’t respond well to being lectured to or hectored

          I don’t know if I’ve swayed anyone’s position on anything (I suspect I might have on the inconsequential stuff) but if I haven’t its because I haven’t presented my argument well enough

          • ankerawshark 6.2.1.1.1

            Pukish,,,,,,,,,,,,,that is good. Right or left it is a big thing for anyone to change their mind.

          • Ad 6.2.1.1.2

            That’s about the optimal standard of commenting Puckish.

            Cheers.

          • Robert Guyton 6.2.1.1.3

            Pucky changed the tone of his comments way back and is enjoying a certain fondness here. James remains…unreconstructed and generally reviled.

            • Tamati Tautuhi 6.2.1.1.3.1

              Puck is getting pissed off he hasn’t been put on the Official Trolling Register

              • Robert Guyton

                I reckon Pucky doesn’t qualify as a troll.

                • Puckish Rogue

                  You take that back!

                  • Robert Guyton

                    It hurts I know, Pucky, but you’ve come out from under the bridge and there’s no crawling back! In any case, that space is stuffed with James and Baba.

                    • Puckish Rogue

                      If there was a blue-green party I’d be voting for it

                    • Robert Guyton

                      What positions would your blue green party take?

                    • Puckish Rogue

                      As an example of a possible policy they could propose to stop all diary conversions in Canterbury and look to extend to other areas where diary just isn’t feasible

                      I also wouldn’t have a problem seeing all streams and rivers bordering farms to be fenced or having a minimum amount of shelter for farm animals (not sure how that would be implemented)

        • Gosman 6.2.1.2

          This site isn’t really about debate. It is largely an echo chamber for people to tut tut right wing political parties and rah rah left leaning ones.

          • Robert Guyton 6.2.1.2.1

            There’s tonnes of debate here, Gosman and often you are embroiled in it. Your claim is unconvincing.

          • Tamati Tautuhi 6.2.1.2.2

            Puck NZF is the only party that wants to look at getting 1080 removed NZ uses 70-80% of the world’s 1080.

            I believe the Greens are still pro 1080

            • In Vino 6.2.1.2.2.1

              You ought to know before you make such an inflammatory statement, TT. ‘I believe’ is not good enough.
              Does anyone else find it suspicious that it was precisely TT who put up the original ‘suck cock’ comment, and he appears to have been cheerleading and cooperating with James and PR since?
              Surely Tamati Tautuhi needs to add his own name to the list at the very top of this thread?
              I may be wrong, but my alarm bells are starting to ring.

            • alwyn 6.2.1.2.2.2

              ” believe the Greens are still pro 1080″.
              Really? I shall have to revise my opinion if that is true.
              They will go from being 100% crazy down to 99% nuts.
              Tell me that they have abandoned their irrational opposition to GMOs.
              I will start taking them seriously when they do that.

        • Robert Guyton 6.2.1.3

          Snipe, Hector and Carp are a legal firm, no?

          • alwyn 6.2.1.3.1

            That’s right. Or at least I think that is right.
            Perhaps they are a Pop group like Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young?
            No I’ve checked. Law firm it is. Their offices are right next to the firm that represents Winston Peters.
            They are Sue, Grabbit and Run.

          • Doogs 6.2.1.3.2

            No, I believe that position is already taken by Clutch, Grabbit and Tweak.

      • andrew murray 6.2.2

        I really like the things you are saying here Ad, but I can’t believe your mother really said ‘hearts and minds’

  7. cleangreen 7

    Tamati Tautuhi We have agreed with your advice here;

    “We also have to be very careful how much we feed the trolls,”

    That clear ‘fact’ could become the trigger for banning these trolls, as Martyn Bradbury seems to have chosen to do already.

    As factually these trolls are truly actual “disrupters of our human rights to have free speech without fare or being attacked by others as it is a kind of aggression they are perpertrating.”

    ‘Verbal abuse is illegal on the social media’ – as we saw happen with the Careron Slater/dirty politics saga.

    • Tamati Tautuhi 7.1

      Mainstream media actually go to these sites to get leads on stories hence Key and Collins were releasing information to Slater and Doug Grahams son who would then leak it to the media ?

    • Tuppence Shrewsbury 7.2

      Why turn the standard into a clone of the faily blog? The standard has always had robust commentary from all sides. It’s what makes it one of the better communities in NZ politics. Yet here you are trying to shut it down after what, two years here?

      Bans don’t work if all your banning is an opinion different from your very own. The amount of quotation marks you use in every comment is perhaps indicative of not having your own. Maybe you are jealous of those who do?

      As factually these trolls are truly actual “disrupters of our human rights to have free speech without fare or being attacked by others as it is a kind of aggression they are perpertrating.”

      ‘Verbal abuse is illegal on the social media’ – as we saw happen with the Careron Slater/dirty politics saga.

      How is having an opinion contradictory to your own a disruption of your right to free speech, if you want to ban said opinion?

      Between you and tamati, you’ve really reached new heights of stupidity.

      • Wensleydale 7.2.1

        The Daily Blog still gets trolled by right-wing shills as a matter of course. They just receive an overwhelmingly hostile response and tend to not want to come back. From what I’ve seen, the moderators here are more inclined to opt for the ban-hammer than Bomber and friends.

        • Gosman 7.2.1.1

          The comment feature of the Dailyblog is pathetic. Hence why there are less comments there.

          • Tamati Tautuhi 7.2.1.1.1

            Gossie you spend all day here with your lures out why don’t you f off back to Kiwi Bog or Whale Scum

        • Tuppence Shrewsbury 7.2.1.2

          Bomber approves every single comment that goes through. Hence the paucity of them.

          And the creation in cleangreens mind of a delusion that his opinion is important and correct

      • Robert Guyton 7.2.2

        Stupidity has “heights”?
        I’d have thought, “depths”.

        • Tuppence Shrewsbury 7.2.2.1

          I must have been feeling optimistic about leaving the depths this morning.

        • Stuart Munro 7.2.2.2

          Stupidity is ubiquitous.

          “At a lecture I gave in Grand Forks, North Dakota in March of this year, someone asked me how do we finally knock the fools and obscurantists and believers in craziness out of the box once and for all. I told the woman that we can’t. Apart from hydrogen, the most common thing in the universe is stupidity.”
          ~Harlan Ellison.

          Our trolls are merely representative of the hard-of-thinking who make up most of the hard right.

    • James 7.3

      Verbal abuse is illegal on social media?

      Really?

      Have a quick look on this single thread and point out who is using verbal abuse ?

      Referring to cock sucking and scum?

      Yep. The people you seem to agree with.

      Naughty boy/girl.

      • Robert Guyton 7.3.1

        James does that “thing” where he repeats words he claims to be offended by. It’s a method favoured by 8-year olds generally, those who get some sort of buzz from using “bad words” under the guise of someone else having said them.

        • Tamati Tautuhi 7.3.1.1

          Has James started trolling again today trying to get a bite ?

        • james 7.3.1.2

          And Robert does that thing where he tries to ‘attack’ the people calling people out for disgusting behaviour.

          In the meantime – Robert is happy for homophobic comments to be used against people he dosnt like – he is an enabler and this is the kind of thing that supports a homophobic culture.

          • Robert Guyton 7.3.1.2.1

            “Robert is happy for homophobic comments to be used against people he dosnt (sic) like – he is an enabler and this is the kind of thing that supports a homophobic culture.”

            James. I’m offended by your claims, because they are not true. If you believe you are being honest with what you’ve said, please explain and include any quotes from me that support your claim.

            • james 7.3.1.2.1.1

              Robert – your behaviour supporting people being called cock suckers (a homophobic insult) speaks volumes – as does your sexist attitude refusing to call out people calling women trouts or chubby.

              The behaviour you tolerate is the behaviour you support.

              • Drowsy M. Kram

                Robert’s observation is (unsurprisingly) accurate.

                “James does that “thing” where he repeats words he claims to be offended by. It’s a method favoured by 8-year olds generally, those who get some sort of buzz from using “bad words” under the guise of someone else having said them.”

                4.1.1.1.1 “That shows what kind of bitch you are.” – c’mon James, you love it.

              • In Vino

                James, does your faux concern have no end? It really is most unconvincing, sorry.

            • Ed 7.3.1.2.1.2

              James lives in the gutter.

              • Stuart Munro

                No doubt he’s been forced out of the culvert he once inhabited and pretentiously called “a bridge” by deluges of decaying cow poo.

  8. mauī 8

    Media headlines after the first US president in history to meet with the North Korean leader.

    “What attire says about Kim”
    “‘Looks like little rockets being launched’: Kim Jong Un’s signature under fire”

    Pretty poor.

    …then.. work out what went on yourself,

    “Do you believe the world is a safer place as a result of the Singapore summit?”

  9. Tamati Tautuhi 9

    It was probably a double so the signature is not valid ?

  10. cleangreen 10

    This is a live story developing today.

    The East Coast forestry slash saga is developig into a real issue up here now today as the forestry chair Peter Weil has now admitted the past activities were very sadly lacking in any disapline as the old slash was just left all over the place to rot and cause drain blockages, and that was what shut down our Gisborne rail services in 2012 just when we were getting the freight up to record levels.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/6170590/At-risk-rail-line-can-t-cope-with-demand

    Then that slash just left tying around came down the slopes to block the rail line and wash out a one km section.

    Then the oportunists in the National Government gleefully siezed that oportunity to close the rail service just then, and left us to support only road freight, and now the roads now rapidly quickly are falling apart and have become very dangerous now.

    Best we get the rail fixed now since our roads are closed around gisborne again for the third time in 12 months now, while most of the rail line is still intact.

    The one km section of rail repair has been costed to be only about $5 million to fix as they aere now getting the rail from Napier to Gisorne opened now, so we expect labour/NZF to get going and re-open this finally 40km section to Gisborne re-opened again as possible for our security, wellbeing and safety.

    We must hold forestry companies liable for repairing the washed out Gisborne rail line (that was washed out by blocked drains after forestry slash blocked the drains in a large rainstorm back in 2012.

    Our rail watch folks all went to see the damage and took pictures of the drains all jamed full of slash and logs along the Gisborne rail line then.

    Since this admission of guilt has been made on 12/6/18 by forestry chair Peter weir has clarified said how slash has been causing damages to our infrastructure roads and rail for years.

    This is an importance incident still unresolved:

    Latest is the east coast farmers are considering a legal challenge to make forestry made accountable now.

    Kiwirail as our own publically owned SOE must also go after the forestry companies for charging them costs for funding of the repair of the rail line theyn had a part of damaging.

    https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018648971/forestry-companies-committed-to-do-our-fair-share

    • Tamati Tautuhi 10.1

      John Key & Fay Richwhite used to be shareholders in NZRail, I wonder if they still hold those shares ?

      • alwyn 10.1.1

        “I wonder if they still hold those shares ?”.
        I thought you might have noticed that the railway operations in New Zealand are owned and operated by KiwiRail. It is an SOE set up when Michael Cullen paid a totally insane amount of taxpayer money to buy the assets from the then Toll Rail.
        As an SOE all the shares are owned by the Crown so the people you mention certainly won’t own any shares.
        If you want to complain to the shareholders they are Grant Robertson and Tsar Winston Peters. I doubt if they will give you much heed.

    • Tamati Tautuhi 10.2

      Were charges laid over the washout on the Gisborne to Napier Line.

    • Draco T Bastard 10.3

      Since this admission of guilt has been made on 12/6/18 by forestry chair Peter weir has clarified said how slash has been causing damages to our infrastructure roads and rail for years.

      This is what I mean when I say that costs aren’t fully accounted for in our ‘market’ system and it’s a subsidy. This is why regulations are needed – to ensure that these costs are accounted for so that subsidies can be minimised.

      And if we, as a nation, have these regulations then all our trading partners also need them else we end up subsidising them while our own economy fails.

      • Tamati Tautuhi 10.3.1

        It’s like roadkill on the roads in Northland when the logging trucks run over cars, does that go into the cost/benefit analysis ?

    • Andrea 10.4

      Somewhere under the detritus is the ever-incompetent Ministry of Primary Industries.

      Standards for logging, tracks, watershed protection were worked out in the 1980s and before. They’re clearly being neglected.

      Perhaps heads will roll. Or not. The SSC just seems to want to play musical chairs with a set of talking heads.

  11. Tamati Tautuhi 11

    The old colonialist exploitation of resources, I hope they are going to pay for the clean up. The rail was deliberately closed by John Key and the Natzi’s.

    • cleangreen 11.1

      Yes the community farmers are now today announcing that they are considering optios to take legal preceedings against the Forestry compames for willful damages to thrie infrustructures so we will see come to and fro here from now we expect.

      sadly when one particular forestry company caused a major drain blockage under the main hyway to napier in 2011 the rail line was stil in operation but that company was trucking all the logs to gisborne port while the slash was slidding down those steep banks against the rail line going through their forestry block at the location and we took pictures of the slas and gave a submission to the local council after wards.

      The forestry company still refused to fix up the slash or even to help us by using the rail services then to ship the logs to the port so we knew then trouble was going to occur then…

      Time to fix up this crappy activity now because the region will suffer and people will die if left as is.

      • Tamati Tautuhi 11.1.1

        Neoliberalism or Natzism ?

        Neoliberalism is a form of fascism ?

        • Draco T Bastard 11.1.1.1

          Neo-liberalism and the deregulation that came with it was a way to ensure that rich people weren’t held accountable for their actions. A way to increase the bludging that the rich could do on the general populace.

  12. Tamati Tautuhi 12

    Were charges laid over the washout on the Gisborne to Napier Line.

    • cleangreen 12.1

      We called the excecutives of kiwirail to investigate the blocking of the rail line drains and gave them evidence of it and pictures in 2012-2013, and later again in 2015 and they always advised us that they would investigate it.

      And if found that they caused the rail washouts they would charge the forestry company for damage costs to fix the line and put it back in bussiness again but nothing was done sadly then and we wonder why? – Was it Government interference then parhaps???

      • Tamati Tautuhi 12.1.1

        Probably political interference if you want my professional opinion ?

        • James 12.1.1.1

          “if you want my professional opinion”

          Reading your comments on here – including the homophobic ones – I doubt your opinion is professional in the slightest.

      • Draco T Bastard 12.1.2

        Was it Government interference then parhaps???

        Probably but you won’t find any evidence as it would be a backroom deal that’s not in the records.

      • David Mac 12.1.3

        I guess it’s a legal grey area that will gain clarity as global warming takes hold.

        Those flash floods we see on the news, who pays for the damage done by the cars we see floating down streets? Am I responsible for the shop fronts my swept away car damages?

        A big stack of firewood beside my house, if flood waters carry it away and down the valley, am I/my insurers responsible for the damage my float-away firewood causes? It would be just my luck for my stack of flotsam Macrocarpa to smash into my neighbour’s back room full of Hoteres and McCahons…..5 million dollars worth of railway line would look like a bargain…….”Can I pay it off at $5 a week?”

        • dukeofurl 12.1.3.1

          Its called insurance.

          Unless you were negligent in your parking of the car or stacking the firewood its unlikely you would be held responsible for the flood damage that resulted . That primarily occurred because of the flood.

          Thats where the logging companies have a problem, did they abide with the resource consents , if not they are negligent.
          Of course you are kidding yourslef if your ‘firewood’ is anything like the volume of slash which has come down.

  13. Peroxide Blonde 13

    On Brexit and Boris Johnson

    “Johnson and his chums ignored Northern Ireland in their Brexit campaign. That seemed to be the ultimate height of irresponsibility but they have now gone further – they are exploiting it. Their current strategy is to use the EU’s offer of a special deal for Northern Ireland, preserving many of the advantages of the single market even while leaving it, as an opening through which they can force the EU to concede the same have cake/eat cake privileges to Britain. They are trying to turn the sympathy that comes from a horrible conflict, in which nearly 2 per cent of the population was killed or injured, into a way of getting one over on Michel Barnier. This is political depravity.”

    …another top piece from Fintan O’Toole,

    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-brexiteers-cannot-allow-the-english-bulldog-to-be-wagged-by-an-irish-tail-1.3526939

  14. Tamati Tautuhi 14

    Anne Tolley the MP for that region by any chance ?

    • cleangreen 14.1

      Yes Anne Tolley is the MP for Gisborne and now fleed to Ohope beach in Whakatane so she is called now “no show Tolley”.

      At the time in 2012-3 she was firmly in support of our rail services but strangely reversed her support all of a sudden, “again maybe more Government interference???

      • alwyn 14.1.1

        Do you object to the lady living in her electorate?
        Surely you don’t regard the MP for the electorate as being just to represent the Burghers of Gisborne?
        I confess that if I had a choice of Ohope or Gisborne I would choose the Bay of Plenty over Poverty Bay any day. The only problem is that you would have Michael Cullen as a neighbour.
        Neither can compare with the twin cities of Hawkes Bay of course.

  15. humma 15

    Minister Eugenie Sage of the Green Party has just given consent to a Chinese company to buy land classed sensitive, close to Whakatane, to bottle water for exports. All in the name of increase in investment and jobs. Great stuff and totally aligned with the bravado before the election isn’t it ?? No shame on the daily backflips from this Government
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104668519/green-party-members-revolt-over-water-bottling-decision

    • Tamati Tautuhi 15.1

      Could be a poisoned chalice evidently the arsenic levels are quite high in that water in that area ?

    • Rosemary McDonald 15.2

      Very difficult to reconcile the ‘bottle’ part of these ventures with approval from a ‘Green’ politician.

      More plastic waste anyone?

      Still down the rabbit hole.

      SSDD

    • dukeofurl 15.3

      The site has an existing bottling plant they are just increasing the land area they have to increase production.

      Where do you think jobs are going to come from in Otakiri Springs ? You sneers dont give jobs !

      Thats a prime example being in opposition means you can oppose the things your supporters dont like.
      Being in government means you have to work for the benefit of all Nzers

      • Draco T Bastard 15.3.1

        Why do you think that such jobs that cause so much damage are important?

        We should be getting rid of them and developing our economy and not just exporting it.

    • saveNZ 15.4

      @humma – I have a lot of issues with this consent from the environmental point of view aka plastic bottles for those that can afford it and have polluted their own supply, now taking it from other countries. They should be forced to use glass bottles at least.

      No doubt the council will fall over themselves to give away the free water from the aquifer, which is then taking a public asset and making it private which is not ok.

      Also as we have seen before the ‘workers’ will not be local but probably Chinese and so it actually becomes a cost to NZ as more people on lowered wages are bought which means that that NZ asset is not employing local workers, and the new workers require housing, health, education… that the NZ tax payer pays subsidises as they gain residency and citizenship.

      NZ assets have been bought up by foreign buyers for years, the problem is when it was the Ozzies and the Canadians they pay more in their countries for workers so they use Kiwi workers for their plants. We are not seeing the same with Asian buyers of our assets as they bring in their cheaper workers many of whom have studied in NZ and can be road to residency, which does the opposite takes local jobs away, lowers wages overall and not giving the same benefits to the community.

      In addition if there becomes an issue with quality or counterfeiting, the NZ brand is damaged as of course the water will be heavily marketed as from NZ which is so far a trusted brand but of course that trust is easy to destroy.

      • SaveNZ 15.4.1

        The criteria of the OIA as well as the RMA needs immediate reform from the Green Party, NOT endorsing it, to stop NZ sinking further and further into becoming a polluted banana republic and to legally protect local people to ensure they get the full and long term benefits from the consents including long term environmental protection, a stop of production if new environmental evidence turns up aka the area starts running out of water or there is new evidence of any negative effects on the community.

        Now Russel Norman has left, the Greens seem to have forgotten about the Chinese human rights abuses.. now we seem to be endorsing them!

  16. Tamati Tautuhi 16

    Greens also support 1080 I heard somewhere ?

    • Puckish Rogue 16.1

      1080 is one of “those” topics but here goes…

      I don’t like the use of 1080 but, mostly due to NZs terrain and the cost, I see the need for 1080 drops

      I do dream, probably a fools dream, of a day where Nationals Predator Free 2050 is bolstered and supported, with more money, by every incoming government and that 1080 drops become used less as time passes

  17. Tamati Tautuhi 17

    They reckon releasing trained cats into the bush to catch possums is a safer alternative, makes sense ?

    I am not a fan of eating 1080 flavoured wild pork & venison ?

    • Pat 17.1

      Cat v possum?

      I know which id have my money on

    • Puckish Rogue 17.2

      “They reckon releasing trained cats into the bush to catch possums is a safer alternative, makes sense ?”

      Oh hell no it doesn’t, lets imagine you’re a cat and you’re climbing a tree and you have the choice of a possum which is bigger than you and will fight back or a bird

      What are you going to pick?

      • indiana 17.2.1

        ..but the cat is trained. It holds a certificate in killing possums, as authorised by the Vegan Society of NZ and it promised only to kill possums.

        • Puckish Rogue 17.2.1.1

          Yeah I wasn’t sure if the poster was being serious or not so I tried to treat it as serious

          Not sure if serious or trolling.

          • Tamati Tautuhi 17.2.1.1.1

            Puck I thought so myself when I was told yesterday by someone if I can get some info I will post it on this site.

        • Tamati Tautuhi 17.2.1.2

          These are properly trained registered cats not your average Persian fluffy thing that sits on John Key’s couch in Parnell ?

          • Puckish Rogue 17.2.1.2.1

            That maybe but the last thing NZ needs (IMHO) is more introduced predators

          • alwyn 17.2.1.2.2

            “These are properly trained registered cats”.
            I’m afraid that statement should be in the past tense.
            “These WERE properly trained registered cats”.
            Gareth Morgan went after them. It is quite amazing what an AK47 does when fired on full automatic at a fence top line-up of cats. There were no survivors.

  18. Tamati Tautuhi 18

    Evidently possum fur trapping is very profitable in areas with high possum infestations if I can get the information I will post it
    .
    The problem is a lot of the old possum trappers have retired and we have lost those skills from the industry, now we are using the old Vietnam/Agent Orange approach ?

    • Puckish Rogue 18.1

      The problem with possum trapping is there a financial aspect which means its in the trapper best interest to make sure you don’t trap all the possums you can, that you leave a few so you can come back and keep on collecting, same with rabbits, in essence farming the pests

      If you put a time limit on the trapping however that might help

    • Draco T Bastard 18.2

      They tried that in the 1950s – it’s how the possums spread so well. The trappers carried them to where they lived so that they wouldn’t have to travel so far to work.

      • Brigid 18.2.1

        I find that hard to believe Draco. In the 1950s possums were well and truly spread across the country. There was no need to carry them anywhere.

        Besides, it just doesn’t make sense. To populate an area, you’d have to move a reasonable number of pairs. And then wait a few years for the population to be plentiful enough for trapping to be worth while.

        • Draco T Bastard 18.2.1.1

          Yes, Te Ara says it was earlier. Can’t find the original link that I had although it’s probably somewhere on this site – I’ve linked to it before. It pointed out that the bounty offered in the 1950s resulted in some trappers moving animals around.

      • Tamati Tautuhi 18.2.2

        Really can you give me some reference material on that or a you just trying to get a bite ?

      • Puckish Rogue 18.2.3

        Could still be done today but for contractors you’d have to give them a set time limit to trap as many as they can then go to a government board/DOC to take over

        Yes I said government board, it could also be tied into a form of National Service (which is something i think should be brought back) in that you do a certain amount of years in the NZDF or something similar like DOC or even a rejigged forestry service (help plant those billion trees)

        You could pitch it like do two years and get a free years tertiary study (not saying thats exactly how it should be but just the gist of it)

    • bwaghorn 18.3

      It’s profitable when numbers are high . It becomes harder to make money as numbers get low . Fur trappers tend to farm the blocks leaving enough behind that it’s worth coming back every year or two

  19. SaveNZ 19

    If the government wants to solve the housing crisis, here is a way.

    Set up an affordable 3D printed house service for state housing and low cost housing. These houses are being produced NOW and the government should be bringing the tech to NZ with a license our own version or however it works, rather than relying on traditional methods such as the construction industry to advise which has become a slow, expensive and Ponzi scheme .

    A 3D housing service in NZ would also be valuable to have after disasters or with global warming.

    Starting thinking of the future NZ!

    Affordable house can be 3D printed for $4,000 in less than 24 hours

    https://singularityhub.com/2018/03/18/this-3d-printed-house-goes-up-in-a-day-for-under-10000/

    https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/innovation/why-3-d-printed-homes-may-save-lives-well-environment-n730606

    https://www.treehugger.com/green-architecture/icon-3d-printed-affordable-homes.html

    https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/americas-first-3d-printed-houses-99189/

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/health-26543569/patient-s-face-rebuilt-with-3d-printed-parts

    • Draco T Bastard 19.1

      These houses are being produced NOW and the government should be bringing the tech to NZ with a license our own version or however it works, rather than relying on traditional methods such as the construction industry to advise which has become a slow, expensive and Ponzi scheme .

      True and they should also be doing a huge amount of R&D into 3D printing houses and, well, everything else. 3D printing is the future of production in pretty much everything. No country will be able to out produce any other country.

      The only jobs it produces is in R&D which is a plus as it will help us develop our economy and our society.

      • David Mac 19.1.1

        The system currently prints with a wet cement like material. I’d imagine it would not be suitable for earthquake zones. With some R & D and the houses printed with a material that cures to have some flexibility, it could become the ideal way to build in earthquake zones.

        Printing houses has merits but the basic shell of a house is what? 20% of a build price? The aluminium joinery, cabinetry, wiring, council rubber stamping etc is what stacks up the costs.

        • Draco T Bastard 19.1.1.1

          The system currently prints with a wet cement like material. I’d imagine it would not be suitable for earthquake zones.

          Brick and concrete block houses have been built in NZ for years and still are.

          Still, the big one for me would be how well insulated that material is. Cold houses are bane in NZ because of poor building processes that have been practised for decades.

          Printing houses has merits but the basic shell of a house is what? 20% of a build price? The aluminium joinery, cabinetry, wiring, council rubber stamping etc is what stacks up the costs.

          It’s the time and labour requirement that’s the problem. 3D printing will remove a large amount of that.

          • saveNZ 19.1.1.1.1

            Time for some Kiwi ingenuity engineers to design one with full earthquake protection, if that is even an issue.

            Also with the dutch link, they are experimenting with using plastic waste as materials for the houses… there are lots of options.

            Agree with Draco, that it is the time and labour that has become the problem for the building and the infrastructure needs sorting as well but that applies to any new house.

            The labour shortage is the new ‘catch’ cry from the right for everything to needing a truck driver to someone who can flip a burger as well as a tiler, decorator and builder.

            The shell is probably a lot more than 20% of the build, and to be able to supply that for $4000 is a game changer and to print it on site in one day is the clincher.

            Add on zero carbon aka full solar and sustainable waste water and incinerating toilets or something like that and it has the potential to recreate the state house into a 21 c model.

    • Gosman 19.2

      Except the problem with housing in NZ is less cost of houses (although it plays a part) and more to do with land availability. You can print all the 3D printed houses you like but if the land is not made available there will be nowhere for them to be put up.

      • SaveNZ 19.2.1

        @Gosman, That must be why the government has sold off so much land then isn’t it? Because it’s so expensive they want to give it away/ sell cheap to mates???

        We have loads of land in NZ, if they limited foreign buyers the price of land would drop immediately.

        The council costs are huge, but that is because the COO structure has not worked and now councils seem to spend half the money they collect on themselves and preserving their fiefdoms, which is not very sustainable.

        I’d love to see a few 3D houses dotted around Remmer’s golf course to help the homeless… it’s that lovely diversity that the globalism bunch are all for, isn’t it? (Or is cultural diversity ok, but class diversity a no, no in 21c?)

        • Gosman 19.2.1.1

          Where has the Government sold off so much land?

          I think you are mistaking the OIO approving land sales to the Government selling the land. The Government does not own most of the land going through the OIO.

          BTW I too would love to see Urban Golf courses converted to something else like housing. Doing this is a matter for local authorities and the owners of the golf courses though not Central government.

          • Tamati Tautuhi 19.2.1.1.1

            Start with the Remuera Golf Course and see what sort of reaction you would get ?

            I think John Key is a Life Member there ?

            • Enough is Enough 19.2.1.1.1.1

              I think you will find John Key plays at Royal Auckland, not Remuera

              • SaveNZ

                I thought it was Hawaii? Key will not care too much, I think he sold his Parnell mansion to a Chinese buyer. Got a good price. His work is done.

              • Tamati Tautuhi

                I know he is a member of the Royal Auckland Golf Club, however I think Remuera gave him a life membership not sure ?

                • alwyn

                  I believe it was an honorary membership when he was Prime Minister.
                  Rather like Bethesda’s Congressional Country Club which does the same thing for Presidents. They must have gagged over the current one.

            • Gosman 19.2.1.1.1.2

              I don’t have toi start anywhere. However if you would like to change the land designation for the Golf courses in Auckland (or where ever) try and get the local councils to do this. Auckland is controlled by a left leaning council so should theoretically be amenable surely.

              • Tamati Tautuhi

                Gossie they are going to turn the Chamberlain Golf Club, Mt Albert, into a new Aquatic Centre and new sports fields, also a low cost housing estate so i believe.

                I think they have started putting in a new children’s playground for Jacarandas new baby, the Council have already approved this.

          • saveNZ 19.2.1.1.2

            @ Gosman, Unitech, Tamaki, many parts of former council or state land is being sold off all around the country or parts of privatised.

            Government offloads 2800 state houses to Auckland development company

            “Ownership and management of 2800 state houses will be transferred to an Auckland redevelopment company, as the Government moves to offload some of its massive stock of housing in Auckland.

            The houses will be transferred to the Tamaki Redevelopment Company (TRC), “to encourage regeneration”, said Finance Minister Bill English and Building and Housing Minister Nick Smith in an announcement on Thursday.

            English said the Government owned one in 16 houses in Auckland. ”

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/68152582/Government-offloads-2800-state-houses-to-Auckland-development-company

            • SaveNZ 19.2.1.1.2.1

              Of course the housing crisis has been manufactured the same way the meth crisis was, aka manufactured deliberately for mates to profit from and to add political ends.

              Of course you will create a housing and infrastructure crisis if you have the 3rd highest immigration in the world. The genius seems to be selling it as solving the crisis by adding more people to contribute to the housing and infrastructure crisis.

              It really is worthy of the MethCON… in fact it’s actually worse.

            • Gosman 19.2.1.1.2.2

              That’s it? That is the extent of the Government selling off land? I also note that the land will be redeveloped for MORE HOUSES. Which is what I thought we wanted to happen.

              • saveNZ

                Free land, come and get it! So you think it was a good idea for the government to ‘transfer’ so much prime land?

                More houses, is not affordable houses… or state houses owned by taxpayers.

                Since the HouseCON scam started their affordable housing drive & rezoning they have driven up the price of houses by double…

                Apparently the are thinking of issuing 55,000 overseas residents and work permits for construction.

                Oh that’s a lot of housing we need to create the housing… and a lot more land as well that can’t be recreated…

                A 3D printer of housing and not getting 55,000 cheaper workers to compete with our existing poor, is a better bet for affordable housing.

              • Tamati Tautuhi

                To house the new Asian immigrants.

        • Tamati Tautuhi 19.2.1.2

          300-400 staff on $220k plus and trying to get an answer on anything is nigh on impossible. CEO’s on $700-$800k, $150k to Auckalnd City Council just to subdivide your section B4 you can start building ?

      • Draco T Bastard 19.2.2

        Land only become a problem if we continue to be stupid and build outwards rather than upwards. Continue to build low density rather than high density.

        Of course, that’s what National and other RWNJs want to do despite the fact that it costs more and drives up rates. More profit in it – especially for the farmers that are land-banking.

  20. adam 20

    Another reasonably big labour strike in China. Got this email link from a mate, and have been struggling to find other sources.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/truck-drivers-in-multiple-chinese-provinces-on-strike-demanding-better-treatment_2556721.html

    This from the mouthpiece of the USA military.

    https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/strike-06112018112639.html

    Last month there were three big strikes across China, just really bloody hard to hear, and get information about them. It would appear that the Great Firewall of China is clamping down harder than ever.

    • saveNZ 20.1

      @Adam, Our future if our government keeps turning a blind eye to our lowered wage and conditions culture and our increasingly 2 tier system of some employers paying by the rules and some just paying $2p/h which is forcing those playing by the rules out of business and enabling the spread of the $2 p/h brigade.

      Spoke to an experienced truck driver who has got out of the industry. He quit when they started paying $16 p/h and telling him he was lucky because he was on $18 p/h.

      If they want experienced drivers then how can you raise a family on $18 p/h so of course if the truck driver wages keep going down then the experienced people have to exit the industry. Then we start getting all these accidents weekly from trucks.

      The industry practises need serious reform and the government immigration policy is just enabling them to get closer to the Chinese system of worker exploitation.

      Go figure, when communism is supposed to be the pinnacle of worker rights!

      • Tamati Tautuhi 20.1.1

        … and when you have Indian’s selling them for $500 through the East Tamaki Office ?

  21. Tamati Tautuhi 22

    Can we set up an Official Troll Register on The Standard so we know who to engage with, it is open for discussion any thoughts here are welcome, here are some names and all comments are welcome;

    Gosman
    Stunned Mullet
    James
    Alwyn
    Baby Gaga

    ..are there any others this will ensure newcomers know and do not waste everyone’s time engaging with them.

    All comments are welcome and appreciated.

    • Enough is Enough 22.1

      With your references to sucking cock and telling other people on here to fuck of to Whale Scum, I would be putting you at the top of your Troll Register

      • In Vino 22.1.1

        Thanks, Enough is Enough. I was beginning to fear that I was the only one.

    • Puckish Rogue 22.2

      Starting to get a bit miffed my name keeps getting left out…

      Also some friendly advice, the moderators tend to take a dim view on being told what to do on their own blog

    • james 22.3

      What are your views on starting on a list based on sexist or homophobic comments?

      Perhaps listing people who call women “chubby” or “trouts”, or people “cock suckers” about people who disagree with them?

  22. james 23

    “Land Information Minister Eugenie Sage, one of three Green ministers, announced the decision on Tuesday which allows in principle a Chinese water bottling giant to purchase land in order to expand their existing Otakiri Springs water bottling plant near Whakatane.

    The decision was made with associate finance minister David Clark based on advice from the Overseas Investment Office.”

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104668519/green-party-members-revolt-over-water-bottling-decision

    First the TPPA, Then keeping the three strikes law, now allowing selling off of land for water bottling to Chinese.

    You guys gotta be loving this government. Who would have seen those three things when you voted for them?

  23. Tamati Tautuhi 24

    Yep could get sued by the Chinese Government for not adherring to our Trade Deals however try buying a water bottling plant in China ?

  24. james 25

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/06/government-to-announce-600-beds-at-waikeria-prison.html

    Excellent – 600 new beds to lock up the people who deserve to be locked up.

    Well done labour.

    • Puckish Rogue 25.1

      Good to see the government governing (is that a word?) for all of NZ

      • In Vino 25.1.1

        Of course it is a valid word PR. Are you semi-literate?
        And, James, many of those will be Mental Health beds. I suggest you enrol asap.

        • James 25.1.1.1

          Using mental health as an insult.

          Classy.

          Hope that you never have it in your family and have to deal with the realities of it.

          Perhaps then you will be less flippant about it.

          • In Vino 25.1.1.1.1

            Ignorant man – that has already happened, and I somehow doubt that you have experienced worse that I have.
            You are the flippant one, with shallow, false-victim crap.
            You might think it a clever debating device, but you are showing yourself to be a Hollow Man.
            I put it to you that you are one who deserves to be locked up, for mendacity and false pretences, as well as sociopathic attitudes.
            You should troll more cautiously.

            • James 25.1.1.1.1.1

              Gee I hope you weren’t so flippant using it as an insult with your family member.

              I’m assuming you would be annoyed with other people using it as an insult to your family member – so perhaps you should stop throwing it around at others without knowing their background.

              And the ohhh my experience is worse than your experience is just bullshit without knowing.

              So perhaps think of that next time you use it as a comment.

        • Robert Guyton 25.1.1.2

          Mental health beds suggests the occupants will be sufferers of mental ill-health. As such, do they “deserve” to be locked up, or “need” to be locked up?
          There’s a difference.
          Isn’t it curious how fragile James seems to be! Offended by almost everything! Outraged, rendered purple-faced, blood shooting up to boiling point, ad nauseum! I worry, sometimes, for his mental health. Truly. No slight intended.

          • James 25.1.1.2.1

            If they are in jail – then they deserve to be there.

            Great they will get the right help whilst in there.

            • Robert Guyton 25.1.1.2.1.1

              “If they are in jail – then they deserve to be there.”
              It’s black and white, James?
              Do you have any idea how many people have been wrongly incarcerated in NZ over the past 50 years? If not, would you like like to take a guess?
              Do they deserve to be in there?
              Black and white, James; black and white.

              • Ed

                James represents everything that is wrong with New Zealand.

                Pale
                Male
                Stale

                • solkta

                  Fuck, you can’t get any more stale than the revolutionary nonsense that you preach.

                • Robert Guyton

                  James is just yer average guy, no better, no worse.
                  What annoys me is that he thinks he’s clever.

                  • Ed

                    You cannot be a right wing troll and be clever.
                    You are doing low paid work for someone like Farrar.

                    • Robert Guyton

                      There are clever trolls from the Right. You’ve just not detected their presence.

                    • solkta

                      and how clever are you left wing trolls?

                    • Ed

                      There are intelligent people who are right wing.
                      The Hitchens brothers come to my mind.
                      But people who come on a left wing site to troll for the right are not intelligent.

                • chris73

                  Pale
                  Male
                  Stale

                  Maybe or maybe not but unlike you hes not boring

                  • Ed

                    Matter of opinion that….
                    Glad to hear you find animal cruelty, climate catastrophe, inequality and foreign wars boring.

                    • chris73

                      More of a group consensus as opposed to an opinion
                      Why do you hate poor people Ed?

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      Potentially fascinating subjects all, depending on the narrator.

                    • Robert Guyton

                      Those things aren’t boring but some people would find endless reference to them, boring, I suppose. An adroit activist determined to keep those topics before an audience without boring them, would employ clever devices and strategies to gain maximum buy-in. I don’t mean you especially, Ed. I’m speaking generally.

              • James

                “Do you have any idea how many people have been wrongly incarcerated in NZ over the past 50 years?”

                Nope. Not many.

                A lot less than by people who have been let out early.

                • Ed

                  Educate yourself.
                  Try to avoid being neanderthal.

                  “The first clue that things are done very differently on Bastoy prison island, which lies a couple of miles off the coast in the Oslo fjord, 46 miles south-east of Norway’s capital, comes shortly after I board the prison ferry. I’m taken aback slightly when the ferry operative who welcomed me aboard just minutes earlier, and with whom I’m exchanging small talk about the weather, suddenly reveals he is a serving prisoner – doing 14 years for drug smuggling. He notes my surprise, smiles, and takes off a thick glove before offering me his hand. “I’m Petter,” he says.

                  Before he transferred to Bastoy, Petter was in a high-security prison for nearly eight years. “Here, they give us trust and responsibility,” he says. “They treat us like grownups.” I haven’t come here particularly to draw comparisons, but it’s impossible not to consider how politicians and the popular media would react to a similar scenario in Britain.

                  There are big differences between the two countries, of course. Norway has a population of slightly less than five million, a 12th of the UK’s. It has fewer than 4,000 prisoners; there are around 84,000 in the UK. But what really sets us apart is the Norwegian attitude towards prisoners.”

                  https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/feb/25/norwegian-prison-inmates-treated-like-people

                • Robert Guyton

                  So, James, some people have been wrongly incarcerated. Do you find that “tolerable”? Have you ever spoken out in support of the poor souls who have suffered that fate? Do you support the wrongful incarceration of New Zealanders? A troll once said:
                  “The behaviour you tolerate is the behaviour you support.”

          • In Vino 25.1.1.2.2

            Well put, Robert. It was the same gentle concern that prompted me to recommend that he enrol. But he misunderstood that gentle concern.
            Too bad, I guess.
            I suspect that the trolls will celebrate this as one of their best nights ever.
            They got all matey, then brought a new plausible guy in, and look at their plunder.
            I’ve even been smiling myself, and I am a dry old guy.

            • Robert Guyton 25.1.1.2.2.1

              Blunder, as Fezzik would say.

              • chris73

                But for now, rest well and dream of large women.

                • In Vino

                  What are you on about, Chris73?
                  James will be most upset by your obvious derision of over-sized ladies. He will deeply resent your obvious attempt to pour derision upon them by blatant body-shaming.
                  I recommend you to withdraw and apologise before he sees the comment.
                  He is a sensitive soul, and will not permit this kind of discriminatory, humiliating branding on a website such as this!
                  (You have had a pretty good time tonight, haven’t you?)

    • indiana 25.2

      Does that mean we can pre-count that there will be 600 less people in poverty under this government?

  25. Jenny 26

    The government need to act.

    We have all seen the videos of the filth that is choking our oceans.

    Refunds on all packaging now.

    Not long ago, we existed in a world without throwaway plastic, and we can thrive that way again. The world’s largest corporations – with all their profits and innovation labs – are well positioned to help move us beyond single-use plastics. All over the world people are already innovating toward solutions that focus on reusing and reducing plastics. It’s time to accelerate this process and move beyond half measures and baby steps. Corporations are safe when they can tell us to simply recycle away their pollution.

    But we aren’t buying that any more. This is their crisis to tackle. We will continue to do our part, but it’s time for the world’s largest corporations to do theirs. Some 322m tons of plastic were produced in 2015, and that number is expected to double by 2025. The good news is that we are at a turning point. All over the world, people and businesses are waking up to the dangers created by single-use plastic. Now, we must demand a new era that prioritizes people and planet over profit and convenience.

    Annie Leonard – Greenpeace USA Executive Director

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/09/recycling-plastic-crisis-oceans-pollution-corporate-responsibility

  26. Eco Maori 27

    Good morning The AM Show there you go one story on the scraping of a new prison and making the correct choices and the next a story about how much we abuse ALCOHOL there will be hundreds in jail because they got pissed and done something stupid and that’s a fact we badly need Alcohol reform laws.
    ECO MAORI thinks something stink at Fonterra the bovine virus 12 years ago they advertise and got heaps of tangata whenua to work in the dairy than 5 years later they get the imagration laws change and flood the dairy work force with cheap labour the employers love these workers who run around kissing there ass. The prices of letting fees are shocking but u know the system is on can charge anything he likes so long as someone is willing to pay the price.
    Ka kite ano

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • Hungary is now a dictatorship
    Hungary has been a virtual dictatorship for a decade now, as Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has gradually eroded its democracy. But now, its official, with the passage of an indefinite emergency law allowing rule by decree:Hungary’s parliament has passed a new set of coronavirus measures that includes jail terms for ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 hour ago
  • A new Ministry of Works
    While the economy is on pause under lockdown, the government is beginning to plan how to cope with the post-lockdown, post-tourism, post-export education world we will eventually find ourselves in. They're planning a lot of infrastructure spending as economic stimulus, and have asked for proposals which can start the moment ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 hours ago
  • Capture: Well spaced out
    It's my distraction,  setting up tiny scenes to photograph.  I've got stuck on the Babushka dolls for now.  Something about their bubble shape.  Something about their never changing, smiling features, suggesting persistent equanimity.  Can we get through everything that is being thrown at us and keep at least a tiny ...
    5 hours ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 6
    . . March 31: Day six of living in lock-down… This time I managed to sleep a little longer and the alarm woke me at the pre-set time: 6.55am. Then remembered I was working a later shift and could’ve slept in. Oh well, there are things to do at home. ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    5 hours ago
  • March ’20 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
    Image credit: Diamond Harbour School Blogs I notice a few regulars no longer allow public access to the site counters. This may happen accidentally when the blog format is altered. If your blog is unexpectedly missing or ...
    6 hours ago
  • Hard News: Poll Pot and the partisans
    Yesterday's Horizon poll showing support for a "Yes" vote in this year's cannabis referendum sliding into the majority for the first time in a year looked like good news for reformers – and it probably is. But the result warrants some scrutiny.The poll is the fifth in a series commissioned ...
    7 hours ago
  • Why those bubbles are so important
    For almost a week now, every one of us who isn’t an essential worker has been confined to their bubble. We are allowed to go shopping for groceries, to visit the doctor, and to get a bit of exercise if we stay local. The reason we are doing this is ...
    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    8 hours ago
  • A Government System That Works
    The Covid-19 saga will no doubt produce many twists and turns for us before it is finally brought to an end. But one thing it has shown us – and what comfort it should bring us – is that our country’s government is in good hands. I am not thinking ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    9 hours ago
  • Smashing down the barriers: Where are we at with COVID vaccines?
    In the absence of a vaccine or a cure for a deadly disease, staying home in your bubble is what you do, the concept is not new.  To the best of my knowledge last time we did this in NZ was for polio, in the years before a vaccine came ...
    SciBlogsBy Helen Petousis Harris
    20 hours ago
  • National Network on Cuba (USA): “Cuban medical solidarity is a pillar of its society and is founde...
    The following statement was released on March 28 by the National Network on Cuba, a coalition of 40 groups, based in the United States. In recent weeks, Cuba has deployed hundreds of medical providers to over a dozen countries in Europe, Asia, as well as to their neighbors in Latin ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    20 hours ago
  • Alarming decrease in calves increases fears for endangered Hector’s dolphin
    This has been a terrible summer for Hector’s dolphins. The first indication was very low numbers of dolphin sightings during late spring and early summer. The Otago University Marine Mammal Research Team has carried out routine dolphin surveys at Banks Peninsula for more than 30 years. In all that time, ...
    SciBlogsBy Otago Marine Science
    22 hours ago
  • Time for Grant Robertson to reveal package #2?
    On March 17, Finance Minister Grant Robertson was quick out of the blocks with an economic rescue package to help businesses through the inevitable recession resulting from the coronavirus pandemic. Robertson had pulled together a scheme in short order that so far seems to have saved many jobs. In his ...
    PunditBy Tim Watkin
    1 day ago
  • Saving lives
    The purpose of the lockdown is to save lives, by reducing the spread of covid-19. We won't know if its really working for another week, but given the devastation that will result if it doesn't - 14,000 dead is the optimistic scenario - its definitely worth trying. But pausing the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 5
    . . March 30: Day five of living in lock-down… Woke up still in darkness. Alarm hadn’t gone off. Turn to radio clock; it’s a few minutes after 6am… I lie there in the dark, waiting to drift off to sleep… but it ain’t happening. Clock ticks over to 6.55 ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 day ago
  • Speaker: Les Gray: the man who told the truth
    The story of Les Gray, the public sector psychologist who told the truth about his use of cannabis and set off a storm, has a special place in the lore of cannabis reform in New Zealand.When Paul Shannon interviewed Gray for the 'Dope and Hope' issue of Planet magazine in ...
    1 day ago
  • Why now? Historical specificity and the perfect storm that has created trans identity politics
    by Phil Duncan For Marxists, a key concern about social trends is their context – not just their causes, but why they happen when they do.  Events and phenomena have causes, but they also are time or period-specific. While much of the left have capitulated recently to postmodernism, most notably ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 days ago
  • Time for a living wage for supermarket workers
    Since the lockdown began, we've all suddenly been reminded who the actually essential workers in our society are: not the people at the top who pay themselves the big bucks and rort the perks, but the people at the bottom they screw over and squeeze: cleaners, warehouse staff, truck drivers ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Hard News: MUSIC: Lockdown Grooves
    Kia ora! As I've watched nearly all my remaining work vanish over the past couple of days, it has occured to me that one good way to keep me away from arguing with fools on Twitter all the time (in the knowledge that all we're really doing is processing our ...
    2 days ago
  • A place of greater safety?
    Aotearoa New Zealand has committed to trying to extirpate the virus that causes COVID-19 from its shores. To do that, as a society we’ve moved to “Level 4”. That means adapting to unprecedented restrictions on our personal freedoms, particularly to our rights to move freely and associate with friends and ...
    PunditBy Andrew Geddis
    2 days ago
  • The police and public trust
    When the Prime Minister declared a state of emergency last week, she handed the police powers to enforce it. And almost immediately, we started hearing about heavy-handed, arbitrary "enforcement" by police who (at best) cared more about order than law, or (more likely) had no idea what the rules were ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 4
    . . Lock Down: Day 4 – A photo essay with observations . March 29: Usual wake up routine as RNZ snaps on my radio-clock. Jim Mora’s voice slowly enters my conciousness; there’s talk of a second wave of covid19 taking hold in South Korea; the week in Parliament – ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    2 days ago
  • COVID-19 vs New Zealand
    Yesterday, New Zealand recorded its first Covid-19 related death on the West Coast. Unfortunately this is unlikely to be the only fatality, with the virus now being found in every region of the country.However despite the significant danger, people are still unfortunately breaching lockdown rules.There’s really only one main very ...
    2 days ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming Digest #13
    Story of the Week... Toon of the Week... Coming Soon on SkS... Climate Feedback Claim Review... SkS Week in Review... Poster of the Week... Story of the Week... ‘Misinformation kills’: The link between coronavirus conspiracies and climate denial   Grist / Rob Kim / Stringer / CSA Images  Scientific ...
    2 days ago
  • Rāhui day 4
    The kids did surprisingly well today – meltdown count was about 3, and mostly fairly short ones. (And a fourth while I was writing.) Game-wise I had a go at Fell Seal: Arbiter’s Mark. It’s a fairly standard RPG with turn-based combat and what they call a “mature storyline” (it ...
    The little pakehaBy chrismiller
    3 days ago
  • Letter to a friend
    by Don Franks Hi David, Nice hearing from you, I’m glad to hear you’re getting by okay in these grim times. You asked how’s it going for us back here in New Zealand. You would have heard that the whole country is locked down and with breaks for exercise and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 3
    . . Lock Down: Day 3 – A photo essay with observations . March 28: First day of the first weekend in Lock Down. It feels like it’s been weeks since only Level 3 was declared last Tuesday, only four days ago. Woke up this morning to RNZ; coffee; toast, ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    3 days ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #13
    A chronological listing of news articles linked to on the Skeptical Science Facebook Page during the past week, i.e., Sun, Mar 22, 2020 through Sat, Mar 28, 2020 Articles Linked to on Facebook Sun, Mar 22, 2020 In Just 10 Years, Warming Has Increased the Odds of Disasters by Chelsea Harvey, ...
    4 days ago
  • Rāhui day 3
    I’m here in lockdown with my flatmate and her two girls (6 and 2) and it. is. a time. They’re usually really active so to start with the only boardgame in the house is the copy of Guess Who that the 6 year old got for her birthday. Flatmate commented ...
    The little pakehaBy chrismiller
    4 days ago
  • A test of civil society.
    The CV-19 (COVID) pandemic has seen the imposition of a government ordered national quarantine and the promulgation of a series of measures designed to spread the burden of pain and soften the economic blow on the most strategically important and most vulnerable sectors of society. The national narrative is framed ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    4 days ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 2
    . . Lock Down: Day 2 – A photo essay with observations . March 27 – Day 2 of our Strange New World. The Park and Ride near my suburb, usually filled with hundreds of vehicles, had just… four; . . Another drive into Wellington City on a highway nearly ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    4 days ago
  • How Do You Feel? What Do You Think?
    Fortune's Children: Under extraordinary pressure, the leader of the Government and the leader of the Opposition will each show us what they are made of. Have they been blessed with intelligence, grace, wit, poise, toughness, empathy and humour – and in what measure? More importantly, to what extent have they ...
    4 days ago
  • Landlords are NOT an essential service
    If you’ve ever had the misfortune of having to rent a property on the open market in New Zealand, which is one of the most expensive in the entire world, you’ll likely be keenly aware of just how arrogant and entitled landlords and their real estate agents can be.Unfortunately for ...
    4 days ago
  • A “new Society” post-COVID19 will definitely emerge. The question is: on what path?
    Society-wise, aside from the specific morbidity shall we say of the medically-oriented aspects of this COVID-19 crisis, what is unfolding before the world is in more than one way an instructive study of humanity and reactions to a high intensity, high stress environment in real time. Friends, we are at ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    5 days ago
  • Raise the Bar: Everything you need to know about the wage subsidy
    Right now low waged and insecure workers are feeling the economic brunt of the looming #Covid19 Recession. In response legal advocate Toby Cooper* and hospitality and worker’s rights advocate Chloe Ann-King, are putting together a series of legal blogs about your employment rights: In this legal blog we outline some ...
    PosseBy chloeanneking
    5 days ago
  • The massacre of prisoners in Modelo jail, Bogota, March 21
    by Equipo Jurídico Pueblos and Gearóid Ó Loingsigh (25/03/2020) An escape plan in question On the night of March 21st and the early morning of the 22nd, the forces of the Colombian state stormed into the Modelo prison in Bogotá, murdering 23 prisoners and injuring 83, in response to the ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • We are not America
    When the government banned semi-automatic weapons in response to a terrorist atrocity, gun-nuts were outraged. Mired in toxic American gun culture, they thought owning weapons whose sole purpose was killing people was some sort of "constitutional right", a necessity for "defending themselves" against the government. Now, the Court of Appeal ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • When will we know the lockdown is working?
    Just before midnight on Wednesday March 25, Aotearoa New Zealand entered a countrywide alert level four lockdown. For at least the next four weeks, everyone who isn’t an essential worker is confined to their bubble. We are doing this to stop the explosive growth in people contracting and dying from ...
    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    5 days ago
  • Lock Down: Day 1
    . . Lock Down: Day 1 – A photo essay with observations . Day one of the Level 4 nationwide lock-down (or, DefCon 4 as I sometimes cheekily call it) started at 11.59PM on 25 March. For a moment, most of the nation held it’s collective breath. In that brief ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    5 days ago
  • A Compelling Recollection.
    Broad, Sunlit Uplands: How those words fired my young imagination! Or, perhaps, it is more accurate to say: how those words fused, in my young mind, with the image printed on every packet of Fielder’s Cornflour. Always fascinated by history, especially modern history, I cannot hear Churchill’s wonderfully evocative words, even ...
    5 days ago
  • The Warehouse – where everyone gets a virus
    . . 24 March 2020 9.46AM Number of covid19 cases in Aotearoa New Zealand: 102 . As of 11.59 on Thursday, most of New Zealand will go into “lock down”. People will be expected not to travel to work; not to socialise; and to stay home. I will not be ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    5 days ago
  • Aggressive action to address climate change could save the world $145 trillion
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections A respected research group, Project Drawdown, finds that deploying solutions consistent with meeting the Paris climate targets would cost tens of trillions of dollars globally. But crucially, those outlays would also yield long-term savings many times larger than the up-front costs. The new 2020 Drawdown ...
    6 days ago
  • After the Pandemic
    It will pass. What happens next? Not immediately, but longer term. There are many opinions, fewer certainties. Will it “change everything!” as many confidently, and contradictorily predict? In this post I look at how foresight can help bound some of the uncertainties so you can more objectively consider the future. ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert Hickson
    6 days ago
  • Coronavirus – Cuba shows the way
    We’ve been meaning t write something on Cuba and the coronavirus but have just discovered a very good article on the subject in the US left publication Jacobin.  The article looks at how Cuba, a poor country but one where capitalism has been done away with, is leading the way ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    6 days ago
  • Using privacy law to prevent the death penalty
    In 2018, El Shafee Elsheikh and Alexanda Kotey - two British citizens who had purportedly been stripped of their citizenship by the British government - were captured while fighting for Isis in Syria. The British government then conspired to hand them over to the US, and agreed to provide evidence ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • It’s Time For Disaster Socialism.
    Transformers: The disaster of the Great Depression was transformed into a new and fairer society by the democratic socialism of the First Labour Government. The disaster of the Covid-19 Pandemic offers a similar transformative possibility to the Labour-NZ First-Green Government. Seize the time, Jacinda! You will never have a better ...
    6 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #12, 2020
    Tamper with The System? Well, we already are. But there's a difference between accidentally trickling sand into a precision gearbox versus formulating a plan to alter it on the fly with improvements in mind. One action is more or less innocently unscrupulous, the other amenable to earning an easy ...
    6 days ago
  • Avoidable hospitalisations: Helping our health system get through COVID-19
    Associate Prof George Thomson, Louise Delany, Prof Nick Wilson While it is possible that New Zealand can use intense public health controls to eradicate COVID-19 from the country – we must also plan for other scenarios where thousands of New Zealanders are sick – including many urgently hospitalised.1 Better resilience ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • Raise the Bar: 10 questions to ask your employer proposing redundancy
    Kia ora my name is Chloe Ann-King* and I am the founder of Raise the Bar, a campaign and non-profit that gives free legal aid, advocacy and tautoko to hospitality workers in Aotearoa. Right now all over our country hospo workers are being fired at will, having shifts cut or being ...
    PosseBy chloeanneking
    1 week ago
  • An equitable way to support business
    The Herald reports that the government is planning to lend billions of dollars to large businesses to keep them operating during the pandemic. As with mortgage relief, this is necessary: we need companies to stay in business, to reduce the economic damage and help things get restarted again when this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Hard News: Together Alone
    We're about to do something unprecedented as a nation. We hope that by taking this extraordinary action before a single life in New Zealand has been lost to the deadly novel virus we will save tens of thousands of lives. Our  lives. We'll do it together, in households, in isolation ...
    1 week ago
  • Why timing is everything: ‘A time to refrain from embracing’ starts today
    “There is a time for everything,    and a season for every activity under the heavens.”So writes the author of Ecclesiastes, a book in the Old Testament that’s counted as a ‘wisdom’ book and written as if by an unnamed king of Jerusalem. But who would have thought there would be a time ...
    PunditBy Tim Watkin
    1 week ago
  • Dealing with the Covid-19 Tsunami.
    I was surprised when the prime minister described the Economic Response to Covid-19 package as the ‘largest peacetime government spend in New Zealand's history’. Reflecting – checking through history – I realised that the term ‘spend’ was crucial and the package had no income tax cuts. Even so, it has ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    1 week ago
  • What about renters?
    The government today announced the latest part of its pandemic relief package: a six-month mortgage holiday for people whose incomes have been affected by the pandemic. Which is great, because these people are going to need help, and that's what the government should be doing. At the same time, it ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Living within our means.
    Years ago the Argentine sociologist Carlos Weisman wrote a book titled “Living within our Means.” It was a critique of Argentine society that focused on the paradoxical question of why, in a land of plenty, there was so much economic instability, inequality, corruption and political turmoil. His conclusion was basically ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Transparency and the pandemic
    Parliament will be leading by example and adjourning tomorrow after a special sitting to consider an epidemic notice and state of emergency. Day-to-day oversight of the government will be delegated to a select committee. But that's not the only overight mechanism. The OIA will still be law, and (so far) ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • ‘Overjoyed’: a leading health expert on New Zealand’s coronavirus shutdown, and the challengin...
    Michael Baker, University of Otago Overjoyed. That’s not a word epidemiologists normally use, but that’s how I felt after hearing Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s announcement about New Zealand’s COVID-19 shutdown of everything except essential services for at least four weeks from midnight on Wednesday. More than anything, I just ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • One way to solve the housing crisis
    How much homelessness is caused by house hoarding? We're about to find out. The pandemic has destroyed tourism, which means that house hoarders who put their hoarded properties up as short-term tourist rentals are now offering them on the ordinary rental market:Property investors are pulling properties from Airbnb to offer ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The pros and cons of planting trees to address global warming
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Bruce Lieberman It seems like such a simple, straightforward, empowering idea: plant trees – a lot of trees – all over the world, and watch the planet’s temperature fall. Who doesn’t love a tree or two, even far more – the right ...
    1 week ago
  • Not a grand coalition, but a government of national salvation
    According to Newshub, Simon Bridges is open to joining a “grand coalition” with Labour as we hunker down to go into a month long lockdown. The idea is sound. Before now, the role of the opposition was to scrutinise and oppose. In the context of what almost amounts to a ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    1 week ago
  • Raise the Bar: hospitality workers & wage subsidy entitlements
    Kia ora my name is Chloe Ann-King* and I am the founder of Raise the Bar, a campaign and non-profit that gives free legal aid, advocacy and tautoko to hospitality workers in Aotearoa. Right now all over our country hospo workers are being fired at will, having shifts cut or ...
    PosseBy chloeanneking
    1 week ago
  • Lifting our game against COVID-19
    We need to be lifting our game against COVID-19. You and I need to help those working to prevent the spread of COVID-19 while they’re trying to lift the testing and treatment efforts. We don’t want to be playing this game running backwards. Best to play it solidly forward, from ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    1 week ago
  • The maths and ethics of minimising COVID-19 deaths in NZ
    Prof Tony Blakely, Prof Michael Baker, and Prof Nick Wilson The NZ Government must do more to clearly articulate its COVID-19 strategy: eradication or ‘flattening the curve’ mitigation. But to do so means understanding the maths and ethics of both these strategies. In this blog, we adapt our work for ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • All aboard the Covid Train
    A few days ago I was starting to write something about the pandemic, which now seems unconscionable. It took the form of a letter to an agony aunt:“Dear Deidre, I have an ugly confession. I am quite excited by Covid-19.”This is how the piece went:“I’m not a psychopath, honest. Although the ...
    PunditBy Phil Vine
    1 week ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming Digest #12
    Story of the Week... Toon of the Week... Climate Feedback Article Review... Coming Soon on SkS... Climate Feedback Claim Reviews... SkS Week in Review... Poster of the Week... Story of the Week... In Just 10 Years, Warming Has Increased the Odds of Disasters The likelihood of extreme events ...
    1 week ago
  • We are all socialists now
    Last week, the government announced a $12 billion initial package to support people during the pandemic. Today, the Reserve Bank is buying government bonds - effectively printing money - to keep up the money supply during the crisis. Normally such moves would have the right apoplectic. Instead, the National Party ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A plea to experts: safeguard your role in public life
    I am a pundit, somebody who opines and comments on the news. There are no real qualifications to punditry though having a rudimentary way with words and good general knowledge helps. That is one reason there is a constant oversupply of would-be pundits and why it is quite hard to ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    1 week ago
  • Enlightenment when?
    I recently encountered the following prescription from a Faculty of Education at a leading New Zealand University. At first I wondered if it was another product of the postmodern generator (http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/pomo/), designed to create gibberish in the postmodern form, but I’m told it is real: The “schooled” society: Towards the ...
    SciBlogsBy Michael Corballis
    1 week ago
  • What the Crisis Can teach Us
    The coronavirus pandemic has of course had a major impact on individual lives and on societies as a whole. But, long after the crisis has passed (assuming it does), we will begin to realise that its real and lasting significance lies in the lessons it has taught us, if only ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • Hammering home measures to stop COVID-19
    COVID-19 has plunged Aotearoa New Zealand (indeed, the world) into territory that, while maybe not totally unprecedented, certainly hasn’t been seen during the lifetimes of most of us here today. Our borders are closed to non-citizens, we’re being told not to gather in groups of more than 500 outside/100 inside, ...
    PunditBy Andrew Geddis
    1 week ago
  • What does ‘level two’ mean – and why does it matter?
    For the last few weeks, I’ve been urging you to prepare yourself, your family, business, and community for Covid-19. Now it’s time for real action.  Yesterday the director-general of health Dr Ashley Bloomfield announced another 13 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in New Zealand, bringing our total to date to 52. ...
    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    1 week ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #12
    A chronological listing of news articles linked to on the Skeptical Science Facebook Page during the past week, i.e., Sun, Mar 15, 2020 through Sat, Mar 21, 2020 Editor's Pick Now Isn’t the Time to Forget About Our Climate Change Efforts   Tasha Tilberg, Lindsey Wixson, and Liu Wen photographed ...
    1 week ago
  • Is the Guardian becoming  a real newspaper again?
    by Jan Rivers The article has been corrected to show that it was Ewen MacAskill, former Guardian journalist and not Luke Harding who travelled to meet Edward Snowden with journalist Glenn Greenwald and filmmaker Laura Poitras.  Some of the Guardian’s well-known journalists who did not sign the protest letter are ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Life asserts itself regardless
    by Cultural Worker Late March 2020 amidst the virus. With gigs crashing and burning all around it was without much hope that I called a long standing rest home booking: “ Hi, I’m supposed to be entertaining at your place this afternoon – is it still on?” “”If you don’t ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics, the possible, and the pandemic
    Whenever people demand real change from their politicians, we're told that "politics is the art of the possible". The implication is that change isn't possible, so we'd better just get used to the sucky status quo. But now that there's a pandemic, a lot of things we were previously told ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The Only Way Through This Crisis Is Together.
    Together: In leading New Zealand through the Covid-19 Pandemic, the Prime Minister could do a lot worse than allow herself to be guided by the spirit of collective sacrifice and co-operation that animated the New Zealanders of 80 years ago. Most Kiwis alive today have had no opportunity to prove their ...
    2 weeks ago

  • Business Finance Guarantee – applications open
    Businesses can start applying to their banks for loans under the Business Finance Guarantee Scheme set up to support the New Zealand economy during the COVID-19 pandemic. “We’re moving quickly to protect New Zealand businesses, jobs and the economy during this unprecedented global economic shock,” Finance Minister Grant Robertson said. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    17 mins ago
  • Work starts on ways to fast-track consents to boost recovery from Covid-19 downturn
    Work is underway looking at measures to speed up consents for development and infrastructure projects during the recovery from COVID 19, to provide jobs and stimulate our economy.  Environment Minister David Parker said the COVID-19 pandemic is a serious global crisis that will have a wide ranging and lasting impact ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 hours ago
  • Advance payments to support contractors
    Advance payments will be made to transport construction industry contractors to retain the workforce and ensure it is ready to quickly gear up to build projects which will be vital to New Zealand’s COVID-19 economic recovery, Transport Minister Phil Twyford announced today. He said keeping the workforce required to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 hours ago
  • Government seeks infrastructure projects
    The Government has tasked a group of industry leaders to seek out infrastructure projects that are ready to start as soon as the construction industry returns to normal to reduce the economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, Economic Development Minister Phil Twyford and Infrastructure Minister Shane Jones say. The Infrastructure ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    23 hours ago
  • Health system scaled up to prepare for COVID-19
    Work to scale up the health system in preparation for COVID-19 was today outlined by Health Minister David Clark, as he reported back to the new Epidemic Response Committee. “We are well placed to contain the spread of COVID-19. We have taken early and decisive action at our borders, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    23 hours ago
  • Essential media COVID-19 guidelines refined
    The Government is refining its COVID-19 essential business guidance to include the distribution of news publications for communities which are hard to reach. The Minister of Broadcasting, Communications and Digital Media, Kris Faafoi, said the move was in recognition of the importance for New Zealanders who might be harder to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • New Zealand defence personnel conclude mission at Taji
    Following the successful conclusion of the Building Partner Capacity (BPC) mission at Taji, New Zealand defence personnel are returning to New Zealand from Iraq, in accordance with the Cabinet decision made in June 2019, Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters and Defence Minister Ron Mark announced today. “New Zealand is very ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • State of National Emergency extended
    The State of National Emergency to help stop the spread of COVID-19 has been extended for a further seven days, Minister of Civil Defence Peeni Henare said. The initial declaration on March 25 lasted seven days and can be extended as many times as necessary. “Since we went into isolation ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Strong Govt books support ‘go hard, go early’ response
    New Zealand’s ability to go hard and go early in the fight against COVID-19 has been underpinned by strong Government finances and the growing economy heading into this global pandemic, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. The Treasury today released the Crown financial statements for the eight months to the end ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Christchurch Hospital Hagley ICU to open to support COVID-19 response
    Health Minister Dr David Clark says 36 new intensive care beds at Christchurch Hospital’s new Hagley building are being fast tracked so they are available for treatment of COVID-19 patients.   The Ministry of Health is working with contractor CPB and Canterbury DHB to enable access to the hospital’s ICU, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Government supports Air NZ freight flights
    The Government has fast-tracked up to $1 million to help Air New Zealand move urgent freight to and from New Zealand, with the first flight to Shanghai leaving tonight, Transport Minister Phil Twyford announced today. Phil Twyford says it’s crucial that trade in vital goods such as medical supplies and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Tariff concessions on COVID-19 related products
    New Zealand will temporarily remove tariffs on all medical and hygiene imports needed for the COVID-19 response. Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker and Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Kris Faafoi said today that the New Zealand Customs Service will apply tariff concessions to all diagnostic reagents and testing ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Clarification of modification to wage subsidy scheme
    Minister of Finance Grant Robertson has clarified that the changes to the wage subsidy scheme announced yesterday mean that employers should be passing on the full subsidy to workers, except in the case where the person’s normal income is less than the level of the subsidy. “We still want employers ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Face masks flowing to DHBs
    Medical face masks from the national reserve supply are now being distributed to District Health Boards, while at the same time local production is being ramped up. Yesterday more than 640,000 masks were sent to DHBS – that is an immediate two week supply, with more to follow in coming ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • COVID-19: Further steps to protect New Zealanders’ jobs
    The Government has made modifications to the wage subsidy scheme to ensure people don’t lose their jobs during the national lockdown. These changes will soften the impact of COVID-19 on workers, families and businesses, and position them to exit the lockdown and look to recovery, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Tax relief for Mycoplasma Bovis farmers
    Farmers whose herds were culled in response to the outbreak of Mycoplasma bovis will be able to minimise the tax treatment of their income in some circumstances. Revenue Minister Stuart Nash says Cabinet has agreed to change the law. It means farmers may be eligible to spread their income over ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • $27 million for NGOs and community groups to continue providing essential services
    A $27 million dollar package, effective immediately, is being provided to social sector services and community groups to ensure they can continue to provide essential support to communities as we stay at home as a nation to stop the spread of COVID-19, Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni announced. “At ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Statement on guilty plea of March 15 terrorist
    “The guilty plea today will provide some relief to the many people whose lives were shattered by what happened on March 15,” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said. “These guilty pleas and conviction bring accountability for what happened and also save the families who lost loved ones, those who were injured, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • COVID-19 updates
    The Prime Minister is holding daily press conferences to update New Zealanders on the Government's response to COVID-19. Links to videos and transcripts of these updates below. These transcripts also include All of Government press conferences led by Director Ministry of Health's Director-General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield. 25 March: Live update from the Prime ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Police numbers break through 10,000 mark
    Frontline Police numbers have broken through the 10,000 mark for the first time in history as officers step forward to keep the community safe during the COVID19 lockdown. “Two Police graduations in Auckland and Wellington in the past week have been conducted in unprecedented circumstances,” Police Minister Stuart Nash said. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Urgent tax measures for economic recovery
    Urgent legislation has been passed to support the package of economic and social measures needed to recover from the impact of the coronavirus outbreak. “The COVID-19 Response (Taxation and Social Assistance Urgent Measures) Bill will cushion New Zealanders from the worst economic impacts of the COVID-19 outbreak,” said Revenue Minister ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Further support for farmers and growers as drought persists
    From tomorrow, Government support for farmers and growers affected by drought will be expanded and extended across the country, with access to Rural Assistance Payments (RAPS) available throughout the North Island, parts of the South Island and the Chatham Islands, Social Development Minister Carmel Sepuloni announced. “These challenging conditions have ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • COVID-19: Temporary changes to Education Act
    Parliament has passed amendments to legislation that give the Secretary of Education stronger powers to act in the fight to limit the spread of COVID-19, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “They are part of a suite of changes passed under the COVID-19 Response (Urgent Management Measures) Legislation Bill,” Chris ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Canada, Australia, Chile, Brunei and Myanmar join NZ and Singapore in committing to keeping supply a...
    Canada, Australia, Chile, Brunei and Myanmar have joined forces with New Zealand and Singapore by committing to keep supply chains open and remove any existing trade restrictive measures on essential goods, especially medical supplies, in the face of the Covid-19 crisis.  Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker today welcomed ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • COVID-19: Rent increase freeze and more protection for tenants
    Immediate freeze on rent increases Tenancies will not be terminated during the lock-down period, unless the parties agree, or in limited circumstances Tenants who had previously given notice can stay in their if they need to stay in the tenancy during the lock-down period Tenants will still be able to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Working together to protect businesses and workers
    As New Zealand unites to lock-down in the fight against COVID-19, the Finance Minister is urging all businesses and workers to stay connected over the next four weeks. “We understand the extreme pressure many businesses are under right now. I know most business owners think of their workers as family ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • State of National Emergency declared to fight COVID-19
    A State of National Emergency has been declared across the country as the Government pulls out all the stops to curtail the spread of COVID-19. “Today we put in place our country’s second ever State of National Emergency as we fight a global pandemic, save New Zealanders’ lives and prevent ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Prime Minister’s statement on State of National Emergency and Epidemic Notice
    Mr Speaker I wish to make a Ministerial Statement under Standing Order 347 in relation to the recent declaration of a State of National Emergency. Having considered the advice of the Director Civil Defence Emergency Management, the Minister of Civil Defence declared a State of National Emergency for the whole of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Deadline for domestic travel extended
    People needing to travel on domestic flights, trains and Cook Strait ferries to get home before the country moves into level 4 lock-down tomorrow night will be able to continue using the passenger services until midnight on Friday, Transport Minister Phil Twyford said today. Domestic passenger services, particularly ferries, have ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Mortgage holiday and business finance support schemes to cushion COVID impacts
    The Government, retail banks and the Reserve Bank are today announcing a major financial support package for home owners and businesses affected by the economic impacts of COVID-19. The package will include a six month principal and interest payment holiday for mortgage holders and SME customers whose incomes have been ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Government working to keep air freight moving
    Minister of Transport Phil Twyford has today announced details of the Government’s support package to keep key air freight moving and ensure New Zealanders retain access to essential goods during the four-week level 4 lockdown. “The Government is working with airlines and air freight operators to ensure New Zealand’s key ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New Zealand moves to COVID-19 Alert Level 3, then Level 4 in 48 hours
    New Zealand moved up to COVID-19 Alert Level 3 – Restrict New Zealand to move up to COVID-19 Alert Level 4 – Eliminate, in 48 hours Two-staged approach to give people and businesses time to prepare  Level 3, from tomorrow Non-essential businesses must close All events and gatherings must be ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Prime Minister: COVID-19 Alert Level increased
    Good afternoon  The Cabinet met this morning to discuss our next actions in the fight against COVID-19.  Like the rest of the world, we are facing the potential for devastating impacts from this virus. But, through decisive action, and through working together, do we have a small window to get ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Govt takes significant economic decisions as NZ readies for Alert Level 4 in COVID-19 fight
    The Government is announcing significant further support for the economy, workers and businesses as the country unites to prepare for Alert Level 4 in the fight against COVID-19. Cabinet today agreed to remove the cap on the Government’s wage subsidy scheme, which will inject a further $4 billion into the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Govt backs RBNZ move to support economy with lower interest rates
    The Government is backing the Reserve Bank’s latest action to support the economy by reducing longer-term interest rates, meaning lower costs for businesses and mortgage holders, and a lower currency to help our exporters. The Minister of Finance has signed a memorandum of understanding and a letter of indemnity with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Government statement on commercial cooperation during COVID-19
    The Government has asked the Commerce Commission to take account of the exceptional circumstances created by COVID-19 when monitoring business behaviour in coming weeks.   “The purpose of my request to the Commerce Commission is to make sure businesses can work together in ways that will allow them to provide ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New Zealand temporarily closes diplomatic posts in Barbados and Myanmar due to COVID-19
    The New Zealand Government has temporarily closed its High Commission in Bridgetown, Barbados and its Embassy in Yangon, Myanmar due to the COVID-19 pandemic, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.   “Due to the increasing scarcity of air links in and out of Bridgetown and Yangon, and the pressure COVID-19 is placing ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Supporting Māori communities and businesses through
    Associate Health and Whānau Ora Minister Peeni Henare has today announced the Government’s plan to support Māori communities and businesses in the face of COVID-19. “Our Government’s $12.1 billion economic package will help many Māori whānau, workers and businesses, whether it’s through wage subsidies, income support and worker redeployment, or ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Guidelines for hospitality establishments released
    The Government and the hospitality industry have worked together to produce guidelines to assist with managing and reducing transmission of COVID-19, Health Minister David Clark announced today.  The guidelines developed between the Government, Hospitality New Zealand and SkyCity Entertainment Group, set out how the new restrictions on physical distancing and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Nation steps up to COVID-19 Alert Level 2
    Four stage Alert System for COVID-19 announced New Zealand moved up to COVID-19 Alert Level 2 – Reduce Contact New Zealanders over 70 and those with certain medical conditions told to stay at home as much as they can to reduce risk of contact with the virus Workplaces to implement ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago