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The current rise of populism challenges the way we think about people’s relationship to the economy.We seem to be entering an era of populism, in which leadership in a democracy is based on preferences of the population which do not seem entirely rational nor serving their longer interests. ...
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Hi there all, could any of y’all point me in the direction of resources on how to run a workers run business?
No, but you can google Riccardo Semler for an interesting example of how to turn a large existing business into a worker-run business.
Hi gsays, there are a few articles and videos on workers cooperatives on Films for Action.
I watched one recently that referenced a website that has a lot of resources for those just starting out. Can’t remember which one though, sorry.
hi there molly and felix, thanx for that.
a rare inside day today so i will investigate.
Try these guys. I’m sure that they’ll be happy to help.
Your biggest problem is who’s going to be the boss? Who is going to make the hard decisions. It’s all well and good to have a collective, but you have to have a leader or you will just be stuck in committees.
Democratic election of “the boss” is required. All workers discuss, vote on and approve overall strategy and budgets. They then democratically select “the boss” (preferably from amongst their own number) who will carry out that strategy day to day and week to week.
The boss is also democratically replaceable, and should receive no more than 25% more than the pay the other workers receive.
You do not need a leader to make hard decisions if the people involved in the cooperative have all the necessary information to make decisions. Needing a leader is a lie told by authoritative types.
+1
It’s skill to work in a leaderless group, but a learnable skill.
Indeed. Have a look at Agile teams in an I.T context – they are self organising and self managing and it works exceptionally well.
what’s an Agile team?
Effectively a different way of delivering (primarily software development) projects. The point I was making is that they are non-hierarchical and somewhat akin to a workers co-op in a micro sense.
That’s interesting. Do you know why that structure has evolved or been adopted?
In this instance it is because the team can more efficiently deal with change through collaborative effort. In a lot of ways they have much greater control over their own “destiny” if you will as their work practices aren’t dictated to them – they define them themselves.
Are they contractors rather than employees then?
Not at all. In the “agile team” construct the workers employment status maintains much less relevance to what (I assume) it would within a workers co-op.
What will the big bosses do when the workers realise that the big bosses don’t add value to the core business of the enterprise to justify their 5x or 10x higher salaries?
They’re going to get fired and they won’t like it.
So the guy on $150K pa gets tossed out, and the remaining 10 workers each get a raise from $50K pa to $65K pa.
Sounds fair. (If he’s actually good for something other than “management” they could offer to rehire him at their rates of course…my how the tables could quickly turn).
Or they could hire another three people at $50k each.
I think we’d see the massive incomes disappearing really quick along with the poverty that they induce.
“You do not need a leader to make hard decisions if the people involved in the cooperative have all the necessary information to make decisions. Needing a leader is a lie told by authoritative types.”
I find both of those sentences at odds with the reality of human existence to a very large extent.
In what way?
Democracy at work
http://www.democracyatwork.info/
Also search for Richard Wolff economist, on YouTube.
here is one of his articles from 2012 that touches on a broad range of the issues
http://rdwolff.com/content/richard-d-wolff-can-we-remake-our-workplaces-be-more-democratic
For the doomers and eschatologists among us, I enjoyed this one:
http://www.salon.com/2015/03/14/when_humans_go_extinct_how_life_will_evolve_after_were_gone/
Another wonderful National Northland by-election billboard doing the rounds on Twitter and Facebook to cheer your Monday morning!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAICtGCVEAALfwL.jpg:large
Apparently, this one is on Waiteitei Road, Wellsford.
Just shows the wheels really have come off Joyce’s campaign rig. This photo is creating quite a lot good jokes on Facebook.
“Sabin uncovered”
“Who needs Teflon John”
“The liar unmasked!”
When the other Mr Key got back stage with his family for the photo-op with a recent touring female artist, what strings would have been pulled for that one.
I can imagine the conversation going something like…
“… the Prime Minister is out the back and he would like his family to come and meet you…”
Just wondering when the Prime Minister bit ends and Joe Citizen kicks in. Would be terrible to think that he used his official status to garner favour.
I think most international superstars who come to Aotearoa really do so with a desire to meet with our great PM and his family. His brilliance shines forth from Aotearoa like a beacon and they feel humbled in his presence. In a recent poll undertaken by Penguins R Us, only the Dalai Lama was voted anywhere near FJK in the “Inspiring leaders I’d cut off both my arms and kick myself repeatedly in the goolies to meet”.
I do not think there is any substance to your suspicions.
@ Murray R
It’s all right you didn’t need to put sarc in your piece – we all knew it was farce! And some force in that farce too.
By the way I know I’m going to seem a dolt, but what is the F in FJK? You don’t have to spell it out, just give me a steer on it.
It’s a shortened version of MLTJK, or Make Love To John Key. Saves typing, which I like doing because I’m a lazy lefty.
Child health in the news – preventable hospital admissions
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/67402054/sugar-rush
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/67362116/healthy-homes-maybe
Also dyslexic children get more help if they’re in high decile schools.
can you post the link to Peratas response?
The national-led government is committed to raising achievement…. National Standards… Charter schools
Nah – just joking. Did you expect a response from her?
Regarding Dunedin Hospital’s frozen meals being trucked in from Auckland, someone has written some thoughtful comments to the Southern District Health Board and here’s the letter [edited] for your information:
North @ 8: Cheers! I thought it was a superb letter when it was shown to me.
Someone pointed out what naughty multi-nat profit-making Compass was up to a few years ago on the Facebook page ‘Stop Dunedin Hospital From Being Downgraded’ that can be viewed publicly (without needing to log in with one’s personal account):
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stop-Dunedin-Hospital-from-being-downgraded/670234713085374
Jim Nald you always add value to comments and the post when you join in the discussion. Thanks.
Heh. I wondered what was behind that comment and had to refresh my own mind! I have stayed away from commenting on The Standard. About a year now. But TPPA, mass surveillance issues, and other things are bringing me back. Some interesting developments in recent months with grassroots and community activities have competed for my time and energy. But some of the stuff offline might make it here.
Great. See you round.
It is a fine letter, but as I mostly read the ODT online I haven’t seen how much of it got printed. [edit; rereading the above, I see it was addressed to the SDHB and not to the ODT editor; hope they read it with an open mind]
However I noted this in Saturday’s article (more about the immediate meals on wheels programme than the creeping corporate takeover of hospital meals and kitchens):
http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/336234/frozen-meals-south-slammed
Which implies that if these; “volunteer organisations in Dunedin and Invercargill who deliver meals”, were to refuse to do so if Compass was the provider, then the entire proposal would fall flat on its face. This is a clear case of privitising profit and externalising costs to the public.
If Compass had to foot the bill for delivering the meals, then the SDHB would be more likely looking at a cost rather than saving to implement the scheme. Also, who would be paying for the cost of this air-freighting of meals? As a backup plan it seems flawed, as the kind of weather that would take out the road &/or ferry from Auckland down South, would also likely disrupt the; “sea or air links”.
+100
Volunteers delivering the meals for frail people are providing aid to their community hospital which is an organisation providing free or low cost treatment and assistance to the community.
If companies or business trusts, even not-for-profit charities (which are often businesses with a plastic halo) like Compass are to take over and carry out this unsatisfactory system of food supply then a generous mileage should be paid to the volunteers. Otherwise they will be squeezing profit out of this very personal service to the community, and from the human activity of food provision.
The provision from outside the location is a waste of energy and will cause additional stress in the case of disaster or bad weather, wondering if the wagons are going to get through to the beleaguered citizens under seige by events. It
stretches the supply lines too far, which has led to great disasters. For instance in Russia
It is an idea thought up by brain-atrophied business economists and taken up probably by the person who hired the person who hired the thieving and conniving IT techology fellow who cost the Southern District Health Board $16.9 million. The Sensible Sentencing Trust is on this occasion rightly outraged that the fraudster Swann is being released from prison halfway through, and has not accounted for much of the lost funds.
Also the Southern District Health Board has not received help from the Ministry of Health in auditing an amount paid to a private health concern Southern Link Health, run by independent practitioners. Only under $1 million of spending for savings on service contracts has been accounted for, although $6.2 million was paid. And accrued interest has meant that the amount in contention is now $15 million!
The Health Board is in an unhealthy position. It needs an overhaul. But in trying to cut service costs it has got into a quagmire. The government has wiped a contract with a company which had a similar objective because its expenses were going up and the savings were down. Now this new efficiency move in Otago seems likely to be another costly boo-boo, and bound to cause heartache to managers and workers and possibly heartburn to patients.
It is a Trojan horse the Southern District Health Board is ushering in, that will open up spewing out little men who will pop out and grab sack fulls of money in exchange for sack fulls of chaff.
we are also seeing the result of nationals leadership… dont vote for dont expect anything
The ODT’s editorial from Saturday also covered this:
”The latest details of the proposal to outsource Dunedin and Invercargill hospital food services leave a bad taste in the mouth for southerners….
” There is – rightly – a healthy amount of scepticism about the reality of ”savings”, the transparency of procedures, not to mention the flow-on effects and local impact of health proposals….
”It is to be hoped other counterproposals may offer a more palatable solution, which can retain jobs and services locally. ”
http://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/editorial/336197/proposal-hard-stomach
not to mention the difficulties in dealing with food allergies and associated issues
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11417950
great stuff.
the outrage reserved for a vacuous tv show would be better directed to tbis kind of thing.
what a horrid little lot we are becoming.
Mean time – in China. Things are looking different and the same – but this I found to be very new – as in middle class China seems to be a questioning the status quo.
Positive and Hopeful for the future. But need our support.
https://libcom.org/blog/free-womens-day-five-statements
On the support front. Ukrainian friends in need.
https://libcom.org/news/join-international-solidarity-campaign-alexander-kolchenko-11032015
That is a marvellous letter @ 6 ! The humanity (and the patent common sense) it conveys deepens my contempt for the Keys and the Joyces and the self-seeking sycophants who back them. They deserve to go down in history for the fetid moral crooks they are !
When does a fee become a tax? When the employer revokes your professional body that you pay a fee for, and creates a new organisatio with the same name but employer controlled, directing your proffessional fees to the employer ends.
Caught a news conference on te Chinese channel, english translation provided, and was shocked, China is introducing a deposits guarentee. I maybe misheard but what if its true?
China’s banking system is under a lot of strain presently…
China big notes its economic performance. The fact is they have ghost cities full of surplus real estate. Their demand for raw materials has dropped, as Australia has learned lately. I don’t think the country will collapse, but there is some belt-tightening afoot.
FYI
http://reece.liberty.me/2015/03/09/25-statist-propaganda-phrases-and-how-to-rebut-them/
Thanks for the, laughter break. 🙂
This was an interesting interview on 9toNoon this morning. A very engaging baskeball player and now wine expert from NZ on his career and development. I loved hearing how well he had done and his thoughtful and positive attitude. NZs who are doing it – let’s hear more of it, and learn from them!
http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/20171057
Former Tall Black’s love letter to basketball ( 25′ 41″ )
10:07 John Saker was a Tall Black from 1975 until 1987. He was one of the first New Zealanders to get a basketball scholarship to a US University, and then became the country’s first professional player, taking up a contract with a French side. During that stint in France, a love of wine blossomed, inspiring a secondary career as a wine writer. John Saker remains passionate about basketball, his latest book is called Open Looks and is a kind of a love letter to the sport.
One thing that struck me – he said that basketball is attracting in NZ a lot of brown players, keen and doing well. Can we get behind that sport, rather than the thuggish and increasingly amoral and injury-causing rugby, and have good things happening for teams of integrated and hopeful young teenagers in South Auckland? Please make it so.
If you did not hear it, I found this interview on RNZ National Nine to Noon this morning very enlightening in respect of the definitions used by NSA etc of terms such as “mass collection”, “mass surveillance” and “Full Take”.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/20171051/personal-data-collection-and-your-technology-footprint
Kathryn Ryan was interviewing “… Bruce Schneier is a US technology and security expert whose latest book “Data and Goliath: The Hidden Battles to Collect Your Data and Control Your World”, highlights just how much information is being gathered by governments and corporations through our use of phones and computers.”
Ryan took the opportunity to question Schneler closely about what the terms “mass collection” etc meant when used by the NSA etc in view of Key’s dissembling in this regard.
Schneler’s explanations were excellent – clear and understandable; and IMO provided confirmation that Key knows full well how these terms are used in the international 5 Eyes setting.
thanks for this and the li k
+1
Also on radionz this a.m. something on data surveillance and how many have their fingers in your daily soup of communications?
http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/20171051
Personal data collection and your technology footprint ( 18′ 44″ )
09:35 How much do you know about what others might know about you, from your use of technology? How do you minimise your online footprint on things you’d rather keep private?
Bruce Schneier is a US technology and security expert whose latest book “Data and Goliath: The Hidden Battles to Collect Your Data and Control Your World”, highlights just how much information is being gathered by governments and corporations through our use of phones and computers.
NB I went to give a UNICEF donation towards Vanuatu and found they insisted on my address, phone number and email just so I could give them money they need. Talk about highwaymen without pistols! They didn’t get my money or my details. Stuff them I gave to someone else. Did you know that some professional fund raisers give under 10% of what they raise to the actual charity. Nice work extorting money, when you get it.
Encouraging, almost hopeful rallying cry from Bill McKibben on climate change. I love the bit about how it’s not the leaders that matter, it’s the pressure being brought to bear by the radicals and sane people.
Pressure is growing. A relentless climate movement is starting to win big, unprecedented victories around the world, victories which are quickly reshaping the consensus view.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/mar/09/climate-fight-wont-wait-for-paris-vive-la-resistance
Fed Farmers Waikato have called for a moratorium on dairy conversions in the area (apparently most farm there are still small family owned farms). Good for them.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/dairy/67402931/greens-welcome-federated-farmers-proposal-for-dairy-moratorium
Lewis’s suggestion for a moratorium was heard “with interest” by the Waikato Regional Council’s industry and infrastructure manager Brent Sinclair.
In an emailed statement, Sinclair said the council would be happy to discuss further with Federated Farmers exactly what they were looking to achieve in terms of managing water quality in the region.
Dairy conversions were not regulated in the council’s regional plan, so it lacked hard data on the number of such conversions that have taken place or been planned in the past few years.
It’s never ceases to amaze me just how strongly the regional councils are still dragging the chain on environmental protection.
“Dairy conversions were not regulated in the council’s regional plan, ”
Dairy conversions require a number of buildings to be built or converted, especially the buildings where the milk collection equipment will be installed. These buildings require building permits, and in many cases food safety certificates, so for the Council to say ‘we don’t know’ is a bit fibby.
That would be district councils though wouldn’t it?
Yes, absolutely – my comment was prodding the reality that the info exists. Regional Councils have access to such info and it is a completely reasonable way to at least get a ball park picture of the recent number of conversions. But of course it is far easier and less troublesome to simply tell the public ‘ we don’t know’.
Rural regional councils are controlled by farmers.
Seen on The Standard now and then: The best way to not have problems from the police/CIA/GCSB is to not break the law (yeah, it surprised me at first too)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11009161_10205735667009177_2212671886105859833_n.jpg?oh=67afb16967bb133dba7cd98a2122a8b4&oe=55B6CFE0&__gda__=1433411231_c34b8bf03cc7bf10dfe75e3e3f56b023
Pippa Wetzell clearly perturbed by the frivolous approach of Mike Hosking this evening
Seven Sharp, Television One, Monday 16 March 2015
Mike Hosking, Pippa Wetzell
Watching the following travesty a few minutes ago, I got the feeling that Pippa Wetzell was trying to treat the crap script she’d been handed with as much seriousness as she could muster. In spite of being in an utterly frivolous environment, she has obviously made up her mind to do her best. The contra king Hosking, on the other hand, is not serious in the slightest, and Wetzell seemed to acknowledge this when he made his idiotic comment about “strange countries like Russia”….
PIPPA WETZELL: Where’s Vladimir Putin? He hasn’t been seen for ten days. Top rumors on the internet are, one, that he’s dead and, two, that he’s been attending the birth of his love child.
MIKE “CONTRA” HOSKING: He could be on holiday in the Seychelles.
PIPPA WETZELL: Maybe he’s sick. They don’t want the image of the macho man on horseback to be diminished.
MIKE “CONTRA” HOSKING: There’ll be a big vacuum. There’s always a vacuum in strange countries like Russia.
At that point, Pippa Wetzell frowns in consternation and disapproval. Hosking simply chunters on, oblivious to anything but the sound of his own voice….
You deserve a medal for listening to that popinjay and narcissist.
Actually, Paul, I think it’s poor old Pippa Wetzell that deserves a medal. I don’t have to put up with that boor, and only listen to and watch him occasionally. Pippa Wetzell, on the other hand, had no escape last night. To her credit, she made her contempt for him quite clear.
The Prime Minister is both seriously worried and very defensive when PMsplaining why his State Visit to Japan has been shortened.
Pity the poor constituents in Northland though with every man and his dog dropping by to explain why the should still vote National!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/67418640/john-key-shortens-japan-trip-for-northland-byelection
Yes, there’ll be no TPPA for him to sign with Japan if Winston wins in Northland.
I believe the TPP will not be going to the Parliament for a vote though – Key doesn’t need a majority in the House for it.
It says a lot that he’s shortening such trips.
Looks like even the NACT leaning pundits on ipredict are now putting their money on Winston winning Northland:
https://www.ipredict.co.nz/app.php?do=contract_detail&contract=BE15.NTD.OTHER
Would this be the result of the Nat’s internal polling?
One has to be cautious to come to any definite conclusions yet, because, there seems to be no big money going in generally for either of the candidates, except in minute amounts of mostly 1 dollar or so which is quite unusual. I am suspecting that there is some kind of cunning manipulation going on to scare the Nat supporters to go and vote for their ‘super’ candidate.
At the moment, here are the waiting orders:
Current Top 10 Buy Orders Quantity (Stocks) Price Per Share
1 $0.5610
5 $0.5510
1 $0.5510
1 $0.5410
5 $0.5375
1 $0.5310
5 $0.5250
1 $0.5210
1 $0.5110
1 $0.5010
Current Top 10 Sell Orders Quantity (Stocks) Price Per Share
1 $0.5710
1 $0.5810
1 $0.5910
1 $0.6010
1 $0.6100
1 $0.6110
1 $0.6210
3 $0.6275
1 $0.6310
15 $0.6380
Some of them would be auto generated of course.
It is really annoying they are still only allowed to say Sabin resigned for personal reasons, rather than the real reason.
“every man and his dog dropping by “
More like, the Prime Minister and his dogs dropping by at taxpayer’s huge expense for their party benefit.
Apparently they are being billeted.
That is actually what Keys said.