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The current rise of populism challenges the way we think about people’s relationship to the economy.We seem to be entering an era of populism, in which leadership in a democracy is based on preferences of the population which do not seem entirely rational nor serving their longer interests. ...
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Winston’s gunning for little not to make it back to government. It might just work.
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/07/patrick-gower-winston-reveals-his-plan-to-become-prime-minister.html
Morning Sara
Happy for the mods to check all ips etc to prove that I’m not Sara – you happy for them to do the same to prove you are not Paul ?
Regards I’m sure they have better things to do.
I’m not logged in so I can’t moderate but this bickering needs to stop. If you think someone is using sock puppets and that’s causing a problem for the site then I suggest emailing Lynn. Otherwise people have a right to not have their pseudonyms questioned.
Cool bananas – I’ll stop calling him Paul.
Who is Cool Bananas? I haven’t heard of him/her before.
You do know that all IP addresses in NZ are random don’t you?
some are
Are you thereby saying some aren’t? I think this matters, maybe..
Yes for a number of good reasons people request static IP and some smaller ISP provide them by default. most business accts are static IP. for domestic accts from larger telecos the IP is allocated from a pool but will still tend to stay with a user between modem reboots which can be months.
If the Danes can do it, we can do it.
Makes perfect sense if the numbers went that way and we should just relax.
Paddy shit stirring again?
Not really – it’s a valid view.
“However, I now see that Peters has a workable strategy to get there in a certain scenario.
It may be unlikely, it may come to nothing – but Winston Peters has a plan to become Prime Minister.”
And let’s face it little is prob the best chance he has of rolling labour.
Did he interview Peters?
You and Patrick Gower should get together over a few beers James. Nice to know you’ve found your soulmate.
Any one know what the state of the play in the eminmen court case where the nats nicked a eminmen song?
Nicked a song ?
I have it on good authority (ie most lefties on here commenting on the Kim Dotcom case) that copyright issues are not theft.
Thus it cannot be nicked.
So what happened in the court case James?
And by implication you are agreeing it was nicked.
(Unless you are really a lefty)
No idea where it is at. Innocent until proven guilty (or you admit guilt).
Well Joyce did say it was barely legal
Citation ? Because I think you got that wrong.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10504690/Eminem-sues-National-over-election-ad
Ok. Now point to where he said it was barely legal ?
because he didn’t say what you stated at all. Even your own link shows that.
Barely/ pretty marginal difference!!
Head of a pin!!
Not really – quite different. If you are going to puts words in somesones mouth and provide links – at least dont bullshit on what they said.
“pretty legal” is enough bullshit already.
…also John Key is not a serial pony-tail pulling pervert and Bill English is not the double dipper from Dipton, fact or opinion James?
“…also John Key is not a serial pony-tail pulling pervert and Bill English is not the double dipper from Dipton, fact or opinion James?”
So right and add Keys questionable tax payer contributions to the Clinton Foundation.
Whats that got to do with a mis-quote.
awww, it’s pretty relevant…
Yeah, fairly relevant to my mind..
@James you either dont have the slightist clue re dotcom case …or you are trolling … or both. either way the issues are completely different in the nat vs eminem
I understand the differences – But what I was pointing out was that there was a strong opinion on here from a lot that using a copyrighted item was not in ‘fact’ theft.
Ok yes that view was expressed (and up to a point I agree with it) but in the case of natz vs eminim the work was being used (or abused if you like) for promotional purpose, I think it is a reasonable question….. should an artist retain some control over the messages promoted by their work?… how would bob dylan feel about “masters of war” promoting lockheed martin?
Thats a different argument indeed.
Winston gunning for National Party votes. Wouldn’t be surprised to see National collapsing in next few weeks
I don’t see what you see. He may go after them soon. But at the moment he’s after the greens and labour. And it’s working. When labour’s own pollsters have them dropping to 26% you know it’s working.
I guess he can only drive them so low – there will always be people who will only vote labour regardless and their vote won’t drop any further. It’s just how low that number is.
Yeah i can just see a green voter going, ‘nah Winnie first for me now’. Its a joke james and silly from you, even sillier than that time you wore a silly hat and everyone said oh look hes being silly he is.
And yet the polls show its happening from labour. Go figure.
No they don’t
Put down the crack pipe and walk away james, your starting to spew rubbish at an exhilarated pace.
And the drop of a point or two from labour went green – that much is obvious.
So the 4% drop from the gnats went were exactly…
Oh wait dealthy silence, as they right wing troll won’t accept the polls telling them the gnats are falling. Silly troll, you need facts to back up your claims, not the fantasies of your crack high.
When labour’s own pollsters have them dropping to 26% …
Good one Andrew.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11891404
Nice to see the latest RM poll has Lab/Greens ahead of National.
Surely if the poll was not commissioned by Labour, Gower must be made to retract? He presented it as Labour’s own commissioned poll that had been leaked. Another $1.000-bottle-of-wine-style lie?
Another $1,000-bottle-of-wine-style lie?
In a nutshell yes.
Today I listened to RNZ’s political spot with Matthew Hooton and Stephen Mills.
Take a deep breath and listen to it. Half of it was devoted to matters around the UMR poll. Not one mention of the Roy Morgan poll that came out on the same day and which put Labour and Greens ahead of National. Hooton’s rant against Andrew Little in particular has to be heard to be believed. His contributions were the worst display of lies, deceit and outright vindictiveness I have ever heard from him and given his track record that is saying something.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201851337/politics-with-matthew-hooton-and-stephen-mills
Dirty RW Politics is once again on full throttle.
he sounded like alex jones to me – he certainly needed a lie down after his rantwhichcouldnotbestopped
I suggest you send an email to Nine to Noon complaining about Hooton.
They shouldn’t have PR shills as political commentators anyway, and his behaviour is turning listeners off. It is also time they replaced Mike Williams with someone from the left not the centre.
They have Karen. Stephen Mills has been the main left of centre commentator since early this year. Mike Williams occasionally fronts up but not very often.
Perhaps you should retract.
it says “Newshub has been leaked poll results from the company that does Labour’s internal polling which show it is in big trouble, two-and-a-half months out from the election.”
So not a lie.
But a clear implication. Does URM also work for NZ1st? Was it actually leaked by NZ1st? Once all this is clarified, it should be publicised so that we can all see what kind of spin Gower was applying.
The other heartening thing about the greens welfare announcements, from an occasional green voter, is a refocusing on social justice issues.
I felt they had consciously gone away from them the last couple of election cycles.
Will Bill English pay his money back for double dipping?
What double dipping?
http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/2711246/Bill-English-defends-taxpayer-cash-for-house
Yes.
In fact he did. And the ‘double dipping’ was done under advise from ministerial services.
Somewhat different from someone who commited fraud and never paid it back even knowing it was wrong.
[citation needed]
Of course, the moral position was that he wasn’t an “out-of-Wellington minister” and so actually didn’t have a right to claim it. And not even sure it was legal as it was obvious that he was living in Wellington and not Dipton.
Somewhat different from someone who commited fraud and never paid it back even knowing it was wrong.
Oh, how different it is indeed! Mr English could quite legally fleece the taxpayers for tens of thousands of dollars in having them pay him to live in his own house, because the wealthy make rules that suit the wealthy. Turei, on the other hand, couldn’t legally ensure her benefit covered enough to feed her kid, because the wealthy don’t make rules that suit the poor. The view a person takes of that difference depends on how chuffed they are about having the rules written for the already-wealthy, I guess – hence all the right-wing outrage about Turei finding ways to feed her kid while excusing English’s greed.
I believe that both policy statements from the Greens and New Zealand First were ‘ smash and grab ‘ on Labours support base.
They both sense weakness in Labour and both have entered a ‘no holds barred’ attacks through policies on Labour’s polling.
I sense that both of them see Labour as a sitting duck.
There are no signs that Labours traction with the voters is improving.
The MoU has become a mill stone around Labours neck.
Andrew Little did have a response to Winnie yesterday but his response was weak and got little press.
Labour needs to start big-time dumping on the Greens to stop the Greens from claiming top spot in the MoU.
Labour seems to be treading water in a large pond.
The waves are getting bigger and the water is getting colder.
Do you think they’ve reached the conclusion that labour only serves to keep the gnats in government.
Gabby: 9.32
Maybey?.
Yarrr bill OR labour could continue to show the gnats as lying, conniving, thick, uncaring with no ideas other than there proven failed ones.
marty mars 9.53,
of course they need to do what you say, but they do not do it very well because they want to be National lite themselves.
Labour will never get poll traction whilst the NZ First and Green parties make the headlines by sideway attacks on them.
It makes no difference if Labour loses votes to the Green Party – the result would just be a slightly different make-up of MPs in a Labour/Green government.
It makes a big different if Labour loses votes to NZ First though, because those votes then go to keeping National in power. Anyone on the left who participates in that ought to be ashamed of themselves (Martyn Bradbury I’m looking at you here).
Just curious, besides Winnie, master that he is, and Shane the blow-in ( hard ? ), can anyone name anyone else in NZ 1.
That’s the Achilles heal.
Aw c’mon Adrian we all know he has the ” sunglasses and expensive underpants” squad ready to respond to his every whim. Just like last time NZ fell for this double speaking charlatan.
Agreed Garibaldi, but he is amusing and a superb politician, if the definition is the ability to bullshit from a position of weakness. The Maori seats ploy is aimed at Tory votes and Metiera really had to respond and good on her. It’s going to be a fun show.
As I said Winnie’s weakness is encapsulated in a great Texas saying, ” All hat and no cattle “.
Warm Fuzzy for the day…Human chain saves entire family from drowning (Panama)
http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/20170710/amazing-human-chain-formed-to-rescue-drowning-family-in-pcb
Oh poor (lawyer for Trump Snr) Mr Sekulow. Could you get ‘swampier’ ? A private jet funded from a pot benefitted by donations from trailer park dwellers. Who’ve just lost jobs to Princess Ivanka’s ‘other’ employees/slaves in her Bangladeshi, Ethiopian, Somalian operations. “Dig deep for God folks !”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/27/trump-lawyer-jay-sekulow-donations
Matthew Hooton yet again proving he is a moron on 9 to noon. He is again suggesting the Greens should keep their options of a coalition with National open.
What is wrong with these people pushing this line? It would be like Corbyn going into coalition with May. Not going to happen.
Oh great ,he’s now calling us communists. Wow, the right really is panicking.
He’s run out of spin.
agreed …..can’t believe mills didn’t mention the roy morgan poll.
At first Hooten annoyed me as usual – but soon I felt something new. He sounded bilious.
By the time he had finished spitting it all out, I had the feeling that he would be making no new conversions today. Some comfort for the fact that he gets so much air time.
John Banks and Rodney Hide are supporters of the same political party as Hooten, and for some reason, they seem to have found, radio time an easy forum to express their political agenda.
Hooten works for a public relations firm, and one would think he would make himself more appealing to the listener.
He seemed to be offering the Greens terms on behalf of Bingles. Is he a Bingles spokesperson now?
He is again suggesting the Greens should keep their options of a coalition with National open.
Who is that even aimed at? There can’t be many Green supporters who’d like to see it in a coalition with National, nor many Nat supporters who’d like a deal with the Greens. I presume it’s just a lame attempt to wedge the Labour/Green MoU.
Desperate I think.
Just saw someone on twitter saying they’re switching their vote from National to the Greens because of the poverty gap. That’s gold for the left and another good reason to not even consider supporting a National govt. Shifting the Overton Window.
Twitter is a left wing domain, I would not get to excited
I saw people saying this at the last election too. On TS. Where you are. I think it’s an actual thing.
Man, you do make up some BS.
Red is worried he’s going to be taxed more by the Greens.
You should feel sympathetic for him.
Special Economic Zones
Definition
The operating definition of a SEZ is determined individually by each country. According to the World Bank in 2008, the modern day special economic zone typically includes a “geographically delimited area, usually physically secured (fenced-in);
single management/administration;
eligibility for benefits based upon physical location within the zone;
separate customs area (duty-free benefits) and streamlined procedures.
“special economic zone are those industrial zone which have been set up by government of India to attract foreign companies to invest in the country.[6]
History
Free zones and Entrepôts have been used for centuries to guarantee free storage and exchange along trade routes.[citation needed]
Modern SEZs appeared from late 1950s in industrial countries. The first was in Shannon Airport in Clare, Ireland.[7] From the 1970s onward, zones providing labor-intensive manufacturing have been established, starting in Latin America and East Asia. The first in China following the opening of China in 1979 by Deng Xiaoping was the Shenzhen Special Economic Zone, which encouraged foreign investment and simultaneously accelerated industrialization in this region. These zones attracted investment from multinational corporations.[1]
A recent trend has been for African countries to set up SEZs in partnership with China.[2]
Similar to what has happened in Cuba, with one small piece carved off from the country, and held by a country hostile to them to use for their own purposes which would be anathema I think to Cuban political views.
Guantanamo Bay Naval Base (Spanish: Base Naval de la Bahía de Guantánamo), officially known as Naval Station Guantanamo Bay or NSGB, (also called GTMO because of the airfield designation code or Gitmo because of the common pronunciation of this code by the U.S. military[1]) is a United States military base located on 45 square miles (120 km2) of land and water at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, which the U.S. leased for use as a coaling and naval station in 1903 for $2,000 in gold per year until 1934, when the payment was set to match the value in gold in dollars;[2] in 1974, the yearly lease was set to $4,085.[3] The base is on the shore of Guantánamo Bay at the southeastern end of Cuba. It is the oldest overseas U.S. Naval Base.[4]
Since the Cuban Revolution of 1959, the Cuban government has consistently protested against the U.S. presence on Cuban soil and called it illegal under international law, alleging that the base was imposed on Cuba by force. At the United Nations Human Rights Council in 2013, Cuba’s Foreign Minister demanded the U.S. return the base and the “usurped territory”, which the Cuban government considers to be occupied since the U.S. invasion of Cuba during the Spanish–American War in 1898.[5][6][7][8][9]
Since 2002, the naval base has contained a military prison, the Guantanamo Bay detention camp, for unlawful combatants captured in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other places during the War on Terror.[10] Cases of torture of prisoners,[11] and their alleged denial of protection under the Geneva Conventions, have been condemned internationally.[12][13]
Once NZ ceded areas of the country for Special Economic Zones we would probably never regain autonomy over them. It would be a piecemeal takeover of the country which would expand taking in further desirable areas.
But the NZ Initiative wants us to join this auspicious list of 30 needy counries, I guess we match that description after decades of asset and job stripping:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_special_economic_zones
I’d been told it was someone from the Broadchurch cast. Not who I expected, but very happy.
The 13th Doctor.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/jul/16/doctor-who-jodie-whittaker-announced-13th-doctor?CMP=fb_gu
I’m happy too and probably going to start watching again.
Me too, I’ve been watching is spits and spurts. Loved Capaldi in all his previous work, but as the Dr, mmmm decidedly average. Could have been the writing though, some of the stories were naf.
Shocking story on Morning Report http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=201851293
about machinery importers having to self police to ensure that dirty second hand machinery doesn’t create bio security disasters. A pathetic fine of $3,000 in a recent case of importing a ‘new’ combine harvester that was dirty and obviously not new. Another major accident just waiting…
I think this blog would be better if there was an upper limit on the number of times any 1 individual is allowed to comment in any 1 day. There could be a list of exceptions for people that have shown that they make useful comments.
Alternatively could we have a weekly vote for the worst commentator of the week with the prize of that person being banned for 7 days.
Some people just don’t make any effort to contributepositevely to the discusssion
[lprent: Nope. Read the about and the policy. You will find that this isn’t a democracy of commenters, it is a working cooperative of the people who author posts and keep the site running. But it also has a trustee board of a couple of hardcore old veterans who have seen just about every dumbarse idea tried on political movements and the net. So the policy has been especially written to ensure that any bully behaviour can only be done by the people who operate the site. Ultimately you will find that is likely to be me – and I have short sharp and usually shocking techniques to pruning fools. ]