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Another hut gone
The Makokoere Hut in the Waioeka headwaters has been burnt down. This is not part of the TuT/ Poto Williams 50 hut destruction plan in the former National Park. A separate arson. Access and safety has now impacted the two huts on each side. These magnificent small backcountry huts are approx a 3/4 days walk from each other so huts either side are no longer safely accessible. Conservationists and hunters are saddened.
An image of it.
https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/10359/makakoere-hut-te-urewera
Yep, a decent enough hut, to stop, have a rest, eat some food, and continue. Worked for decades. But totally understandable that it is no longer fit for purpose. Lets burn all that shit down. One hut a time.
Clear some trees, concrete some roads and build some mansions fit for the current time with air conditioning, duckfeather duvets and five star cuisine and a several hundered dollar ticket per night. Are you rich enough?
Tis the 17th???
Someone is in a hurry for Christmas.
Well, as we are talking about Christmas, all I wish for is a government that talks socialism like Mick Lynch.
Not the neoliberal managers we presently have.
Someone nearly gave me a panic attack.
It'll be coal for me
Couldn't fathom out what coal had to do with it. Duh…
Anne, A present under the tree/ in the stocking
if you are good, or a piece of coal if you are bad. lol 
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First I've heard of that one.
I remember the extra large orange in the toe of the stocking. Always felt a bit cheated – less room in the stocking for toys n' things.
People did that after war time shortages. For me it was a bottle of Fanta… the only time I had soft drink.
Oops, now corrected.
AND they say time travel is NOT possible.
Time is an illusion but a useful one because it helps us keep track of … who we are.
Yeah but what about AGE.
That is not an illusion (bugger)
"Patients are so vulnerable to Covid and these anti-vaxxers have been sneaking in and putting lots of children suffering from heart conditions at risk. At no time has security ever been needed like this," the mother said.
"A really safe space for sick and dying children has been grossly invaded. It’s our one place of refuge from a terminal illness."
She said families needed to be masked and tested on the ward and individuals refusing to comply with the requirements – "especially with their unmasked anti-vaxxer mates sneaking in" – were increasing the risk to other patients.
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/starship-hospital-staff-really-stressed-security-ramps-baby-w
"Alex Jones is comparing the doctors at Starship Hospital to Josef Mengele and saying they're doing Nazi-style medical experiments on the baby."
https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018871196/how-the-case-of-baby-w-made-global-headlines
Sue Grey , Liz Gunn, all the other anti vaxxers with their "concern" incl going on alex jones "info wars " FFS !
….have they any concern for those actually affected by their actions? IMO..None.
One circumstance where a bit of deterrent jail time for the idiots may be appropriate.
IMO ….Selfish jerks..and "Lawyer Sue" might be getting too close to the conspiracy flame
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/480645/lawyer-sue-grey-released-from-custody-after-being-accused-of-contempt-of-court
I should be banned for this but I would consider the John Cleese solution to discipline issues (only in jest)
KJT @ 3.1
Absolutely.
Not related to antivaxxers but this item is yet another example of our ability to lead normal lives without fear being negatively affected by mad conspiracy theorists and extreme political agitators:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/16/new-zealand-set-to-cancel-jacinda-arderns-waitangi-day-bbq-amid-security-concerns
It's time a much harder line is taken to counter all of them regardless of their individual fixations. Currently we are letting these crackpots – be they anti-vaxxers or some other extreme fantasists – get away with their anti-social activities with little more than a wet bus ticket.
Time in jail contemplating their futures is a highly desirable alternative.
Look on the bright side. The hate towards the PM will mostly ( not all) transfer to David Seymour and to a lesser extent, Luxon, after the next election. However, the protests and threats will be way more severe because mainstream groups will be protesting their loss of funding and importance under a Nat/Act coalition. That of course presupposes National and ACT can come to a political arrangement. That isn't a given yet.
Good observation. I've a couple of long time friends who have disappeared down the hole and it's a powerlessness in the face of a rapidly changing world and backlash at the neo-con, globalist world. Whoever is PM next Christmas will be getting just as much grief from the same people. Luxon is no more their thing than Arden, and probably viewed with more suspicion.
Very interesting times ahead, Graeme.
I'm inclined to think "useful idiots" might be a tad more accurate as a description. Someone else's agenda is at play and it's on the move and making inroads. If we get Luxon's coronation next year, it will be the 'normie' expression of the same underlying sentiments.
But jail time will just lend credibility to their delusions of persecution.
In times of political crisis/public insecurity resist the temptation to
1. jail people
2. suppress protest
3. label alternative opinion conspiracy theory (a term invented by the spooks to marginalise truth tellers – and some of it is just that)
4. pretend to be professionals able to prognosis others as narcissists and sociopaths.
Don't become Orwellian.
It is not "alternative opinion".
It is a bunch of deluded idiots putting other people at risk.
They can spout their nonsence in a protest as much as they want. When it is putting already sick kids at extra risk, however!!
I think you have had your authoritarian jollies for now. Much of the extremism you are bitching about is a direct reaction to state overreach this past two years.
Time to pack it in. Otherwise what SPC said.
Keeping people safe during a deadly pandemic is "State overreach"?
If you support as the ones threatening the safety of sick children, by flouting masking and separation rules in hospitals, you are as much of a fucking idiot as they are.
You can see how seriously hospitals are taking masking during a "deadly pandemic" by watching the baby uplift scene.
Yes – here in Brisbane mask wearing even in medical settings is hit and miss now.
If you are wearing a properly fitted and tested mask with no air leaks then well and good. Otherwise they are just virtue signaling.
"If you are wearing a properly fitted and tested mask with no air leaks then well and good. Otherwise they are just virtue signaling."
What???
How about,
If you are wearing a properly fitted and tested mask with no air leaks then well and good. Otherwise they are just trying their best to help everyone else!!
You think people who believe their mask-wearing is protecting their neighbours, relatives and friends, are virtue signalling???
I'm appalled by that claim.
Any mask reduces the viral load you are exposed to. Fit-tested N95s are clearly the best but it is not a binary proposition.
But…virtue signalling!!
The perfect counter to … reason!!
More so than you might imagine. How many times have you taken a respiratory mask fit test? Because I can advise it is remarkably easy to fail.
I am happy to accept that a mask of any kind will stop large droplets that someone might sneeze or cough, but the highly aerosolised viral particles that persist in the air for many hours – are another question again.
The weak point of any mask is the concave gap between the bridge of the nose and the top of the cheeks. All masks intended to be used in hazardous environments, will have a firm shape that fits this space and a strap scheme that applies sufficient force to keep the gap closed reliably. The usual blue and white paper mask most people use, or cheap N95's with a flimsy bit of elastic for a strap simply do not achieve this.
If you wear glasses and find that when you first put a mask on they fog up, this is because the bulk of the air you are inhaling and exhaling is taking the path of least resistance through this gap. And this means the mask is doing little to protect you or anyone else from the very fine, highly suspended viral particles that are the dominant hazard.
Any industrial hygienist will tell you this.
But you are criticising those who believe their efforts are effective and want to help their fellow man avoid harm. You call that, "virtue signalling". That's offensive.
You may be able to "prove them wrong" in their belief, but your attempts to prove them "virtue signallers" is misguided and harmful.
Last year I was working at a site which produced lithium hydroxide and at the back end of the plant where it is packaged there is a very fine, invisible to the eye, dust in the air.
Lithium hydroxide is caustic (just like sodium hydroxide) and will definitely cause harm to your airways and lungs if inhaled. The smallest particle sizes are of the similar order to a typical virus.
You can be absolutely certain we took mast fit testing, and proper wearing of our high quality PPE very seriously. The usual kind of mask people wear for COVID protection was simply not an option – a sackable offence if you should be stupid enough to try getting away with using one.
So while I accept the term 'virtue signaling' might be a blunt way of putting it, if you are serious about wanting to reduce virus load, then you need to be serious about the mask. Most people are not.
"Most people" are acting with integrity and to the best of their ability. Based on the best information available to them and their feelings of altruism and their willingness to help others, they are masking-up.
Accusing them of "virtue signalling" is despicable, imo.
So what would call an action that is intended to look like it is doing something useful – but in reality is not?
Happy to go with your suggestion.
Mask wearing is not about looks.
"So what would call an action that is intended to
look like it is doing something usefulkeep others safe – but inrealityRedLogix' opinion, is not?Happy to go with your suggestion."
Sincerity, altruism, genuine concern for more vulnerable people,
The harm from Covid is also not a binary proposition. Challenging for more linear minds, I know.
Jailed for what exactly?
The hospital appears to be doing its job – if people won't follow masking/testing rules they're not allowed in. People are being arseholes, but I didn't see anything in the article that suggesting criminality.
Endangering others, like they are, is criminal.
No different from speeding through a residential street full of kids playing, at 100k.
Or, ram raiding a dairy with people inside.
Some appear to have been infected since covid by "Libertarian philosphy" where "individual freedom" is sacrosanct, no matter what the harm it does to everyone else.
In fact your "freedom should end" where my nose begins".
We interfere with the urge to indulge in the "individual freedom" to punch someone, when another will get hurt.
Anyone who thinks recent actions to reduce the harm caused by covid, which were supported by over 90% at the time was "State overreach" has lost the plot.
"Sue Grey , Liz Gunn, all the other anti vaxxers with their "concern" incl going on alex jones "info wars " FFS !"
Anti-vax followers are a diverse and varied bunch. But the leaders of the movement (and other conspiracy movements) often seem to be narcissist-types, IMHO. They don’t care about anyone else.
"But the leaders of the movement (and other conspiracy movements) often seem to be narcissist-types…"
My thoughts too. Anyone who has ever been on the receiving end of a full blown narcissist, no matter the circumstance, will recognise that is precisely what they are. Add a bit of sociopathy to the mix and you've got a huge amount of damage to individuals and… society as a whole.
Absolutely. No matter how they pretend…Its ALL about them.
Climate change dangers – a new one
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/16/almost-8000-us-shootings-attributed-to-unseasonable-heat-study
Thanx Patricia – yes MSD is all done and satisfactorily no more anxiety on that score
“In this video, 4 New Zealand scientists talk about how the water cycle is part of Earth’s system. They point out that Earth’s system consists of 4 subsystems – the geosphere, hydrosphere, atmosphere and biosphere – which all interact with each other.”
https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/resources/1256-what-is-the-earth-system
Includes a small…but important video
Note the Dates….Published 3 August 2009, Updated 1 October 2012
Did some of those Kids….become engaged with this ? Oh for the Teachers that would connect with them. IMO they probably dont do it just for the pay…but worth every amount.
Also in link…
https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/citizen_science
Ive been involved with some…so Interesting. I am but a layman…but I do like to know ….and how in small way to help..Our Earth.
.https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-29-09-2022/#comment-1912912
6.2
Some of you are teachers/lecturers , I’m sure.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-04397-7
Could make essay marking even harder.
”The replies are so lucid, well-researched and decently referenced that some academics are calling the bot the death knell for conventional forms of educational assessment. How worried should professors and lecturers be?”
Some commenters on TS may consider using it 😉
Could improve their logic
Examiners should be setting and marking "problem solving" exams, not asking for regurgitation of rote learning!
It is lazy exam questions that allows bots, or purchased set answers, to be usable.
Russia's Special Military Operation, 'SMO' is following the arc of that other infamous undeclared 'WAR'.
As the Vietnam War dragged on with no resolution, it became increasingly difficult for the American public and especially broadcast commentators to discern what the US was actually trying to achieve with the war. The same in Russia.
Yes the comparison with Vietnam is worth making. It can only be understood within the context of the Cold War – which was a decades long, highly intense confrontation with Stalinist Russia and Maoist China, both brutal, totalitarian marxist proto-empires. That was the underlying motivation.
Vietnam itself was a mistake and long recognised as such. Moreover as the futility and stupidity of that mistake became evident to people all across the western world, the will to continue the war, to commit to the escalation necessary to win – evaporated.
The difference worth noting however is that in the West the people were able to protest the war without incurring massive personal cost, such as decade long prison sentences or worse. In Russia right this is not possible; all organised opposition is imprisoned (such as Navalney) or has gone into exile.
Again my point is not that the West is incapable of making terrible mistakes – no human polity is immune from this. It is that open liberal democracy that respects at least the principle of individual rights and the concept of citizenship, and thus contains the means to self-correct those mistakes.
By contrast consider the era of the gulags – a horror that the authoritarian Soviets had no choice but to continue to double down on until the death of the tyrant shook loose the system and brought it to an end. (Well at least until recently when Putin thought it a fine thing to rehabilitate Stalin and the cruel ethos of the prison state.)
By Biden's own admission a resumption of the cold war is underway, and it will take fifty to sixty years to play out. The Ukrainian conflict apparently is just the opening salvo.
I can't provide a link, but see "China – the change agent" on michael-hudson.com
Biden is a fair measure smarter than LBJ.
Currently reading "Blood Lands" by Timothy Snyder – about Europe between Hitler and Stalin.
The deliberately engineered famine in the Ukraine, 1931-33 which killed at least 3.3 million people, should make all Ukrainians detest Russians forever!
And I'm only up to about p100 of 408!!
Julia Davis is awesome.
The reported story is a rare case of (mild) dissent aired in public. There is no right to protest or free speech in Russia, and no permitted independent media, so public dissent might not have the same effect as it did in the USA over the Vietnam war, unfortunately.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/audio/2018871626/principal-experimentalist-explains-nuclear-fusion-breakthrough
As the link says Kim Hill interviews one of the sciencetists who made the break through re nuclear-fusion. I found it informative.
National MP Barbara Kuriger is toast, but what will Luxon do about it? Will he butter it, burn it, burry it, or biff it?
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/mps-emails-show-pattern-of-personal-attacks-on-ministry
Wow!! What entitled behaviour. Scratch the surface and their behaviour is almost scary in relation to rule of law!! Too many Nats think they are a breed apart. Woodhouse Kuriger et al. Wasn't she the woman who "helped" a young Southland MP Todd Barclay?
It begs the question why this wasn’t picked up by the National Party long before the MPI whistle blower blew the whistle in Luxon’s ear.
Ummmm because national doesn't mind you being an entitled bully it's only a problem if ypu get caught.
Elmo's a Poots humper.
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1603675700313325569
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1603773315906240514
Tesla’s third largest private shareholder.
https://twitter.com/KoguanLeo/status/1603022448416407553
I think with more and more of these types of incidents occurring, law and order might become a greater issue at next year's election than the economy.
Hopefully more innocent people aren't killed or maimed when doing their jobs, while we continue to wait for Labour to move out of the denial phase.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300767728/machetewielding-robber-chops-off-dairy-workers-fingers-in-vicious-attack
Do you play on Lichess? I wouldn't mind testing your skills.
It begs a question about Xmas holidays this year. Will it be quiet because people have tightened their belts, or will crime spiral completely out of control because crims take advantage of stretched police resources and an over taxed retail sector?
There is no evidence crime is out of control, nor that criminals are taking advantage of a "stretched" police resources.
The only part of the retail sector that is overtaxed is tobacco, as with other government interventions (such as the RB QE) it distorts the market in harmful ways, and this can and does result in greed. The problem with polite middle class society it likes incentives when they do well out of it, but no much when it gives others "ideas" about how to afford the latest phone/big screen TV.
''There is no evidence crime is out of control, nor that criminals are taking advantage of a "stretched" police resources.''
Let's see what happened today:
1- Law abiding citizen has two finger chopped off in a robbery.
2- A probable gang-banger shot dead in a church car park.
3- I have seen hardcore violence at my local supermarket all year. The latest 3 days ago when two security guards tackled a meat thief who had the audacity to say " I'm only trying to feed my whanau – let me go!
I lost count of crimes committed during my month away from this blog.
Are you going by official stats?
''The only part of the retail sector that is overtaxed is tobacco.''
You must live in a great part of the country. In my area many shops are advertising for workers. Shop after shop after shop.
Crime stats are not based on perceptions based on media reports.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/130778313/underfire-police-bosses-tell-mps-they-can-only-do-so-much-about-youth-crime
Yeah. It's only up at the under 14 level – where there is a factor of truancy and acting out for social media show.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/the-whole-truth/300735972/the-whole-truth-what-the-youth-crime-statistics-actually-say
That said there is a real upsurge with crime at the "corner dairy" (seeking the overtaxed tobacco) or supermarket level (not all retail) with theft of food – that indicates pressure on budgets.
''Crime stats are not based on perceptions based on media reports.''
That's correct. Stats are also not based on unreported crimes. Stats are also categorised. That means an overall trend of increased violence and nastiness may not show in overall figures. Domestic Violence is an example. Some triggers for the worst type of violence just numbs the mind:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/130646344/gang-member-tried-to-kill-woman-in-her-home-after-being-denied-cigarette
The hapless Police Commissioner was stating how ram raids have reduced. That may be true, but what about youth crime in general? Crime that won't be reported?
The second link gives you the official stats on youth crime, they were trending down (2017 to 2021) but have risen this year. The 15-19 category back at the late 2020 level, and the under 14 now a little higher.
That is evidence, but not proof.
"There is no evidence crime is out of control"
You obviously do not read or watch the news. Where are you living? Mars?
So reality is based on the news coverage you consume?
Heard of red pill and red pill – Fox and liberal MSM?
Heard of taking off your rose tinted glasses and actually admitting not all is well in paradise.
Evidence is not proof.
Perhaps you should work in a dairy for a few weeks. If you lost a couple of fingers would that be enough proof for you?
What would that prove?
That crime is out of control?
Would losing my wallet to a pick-pocket prove the same thing?
Evidence is not proof.
There is an awful lot of evidence lately.
More than ever before?
Enough to support the claim that crime is "out of control"?
Yep. More than before. It's definitely more than a spike. Many no longer reported.
"Many no longer being reported"
Got proof of that?
Yep. The local liquor store that has been hit 7 times. My local Countdown. I witnessed a robbery the other night at Countdown. Spoke with the manager there. They no longer call the police. That was at least the third one that week and it was only Wednesday!
You have to get out and talk to people on the coalface.
$20,000 of tobacco being held at the start of weekends … in former times it was a cash till grab (and transfer to safe and or mid-day banking reduced risk).
The retailing of the product is a crime magnet, so who has the smarts to solve this?
I say sell smokes in other ways.
1. automated kiosk (refilled during the day the same way that cash is moved for banks).
2. subscription supply from a warehouse (delivered each week by a courier).
A bloke with a kid on the way loses some of his fingers, but yeah, you go make your point
If you were concerned about such crime as your post implied
you would have sought discussion about this issue and a way to prevent them. This case demonstrated that defensive systems – such as fog cannons, are not enough to prevent all threat.
The cause is the high value of the (overtaxed) item in the shop. There are only two options reduce the tax and supply by ration card to those who sign up or maintain the tax and supply in safer ways to those who consume.
NZ in a years time:
Watch | Facebook
‘He Shot My Arm Off!’: Liquor Store Owner Stops Armed Robbery by Firing Back at Suspects – YouTube
Liquor stores for the tillcash? That just shows how sad the US society is.
The statistics do not show higher youth crime.
They do show more incidents involving those under 14.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/the-whole-truth/300735972/the-whole-truth-what-the-youth-crime-statistics-actually-say
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/130778313/underfire-police-bosses-tell-mps-they-can-only-do-so-much-about-youth-crime
No humanity, or concern for the victim, was indicated in the making of your post.
Merry Xmas.
Chess Player on The Standard.
You argued that law and order might become a greater issue at next year's election than the economy. And Labour was in a denial phase.
I quoted experts on crime. I might quote another expert, LPrent, if you lack the debate skills this might not be the site for you.
A baptism of fire for new Hamilton West MP, Tama Potaka. What is he going to do to arrest this massive increase in crime on his watch?
Nothing at the moment. But he and Mitchell better have a plan after National win the next election otherwise National will be one hit wonders. The message voters send Labour at election time will also apply to National. Law abiding citizens from what I have seen, heard and read, have had a gutsful.
"he and Mitchell "
He & Mitchell?
We're pinning our hopes on those two??
Heaven help us all!
This is such a tragedy.
The usual gang apologists like Russell Brown, Kiri Allan and Jarod Gilbert will do what they always do, but I feel for the family of the guy murdered.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300767748/auckland-church-shooting-victim-was-46yearold-daniel-eliu
And other people don't?
Read the story again. The deceased is exactly the kind of person you think should be in jail, with knee-jerk "lock 'em up and throw away the key". He committed serious crimes.
But if you do believe in the chance of redemption and welcome the support he was getting, have a word with your chums who dismiss that as "kumbaya" and "mush".
Do you?
From the link: “He had sought to turn his life around and had tragically just finished attending an empowerment gathering for people who sought to leave lives of crime.”
Mush, right?
Did you read the article? Daniel Eliu was a convicted violent criminal offender and a lifetime gang member.
Before he was gunned down he had apparently attended a Grace Foundation rehabilitation program run by the father of National Party aligned David Letele, himself a former gang member.
Amazing how some gang run rehabilitation programs are slated by right wing nut jobs and others are not…
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/emergency-services-respond-to-incident-at-a-church-in-south-auckland/J44CXBJIWRHHTFGRGVW57WCNB4/
Chess Player I feel for the murdered guys previous victims. And yes his family too.
Take a bow, tankies.
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https://twitter.com/maria_avdv/status/1603386593208844296
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-war-body-armor-chidlren-russia/32091558.html
This is how it ends, a bio diversity disaster, or a mysterious apocalypse that causes the spread of misinformation and violence, or a hearing on Capitol Hill?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64009203