Open mike 20/04/2019

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  1. francesca 1
    20 April 2019 at 10:10 am

    Rosemary McDonald
    Jonathan Pie shares your views on Notre Dame in this video

    https://www.plantbasednews.org/post/jonathan-pie-gov-protect-animal-farming

    Also Wikileaks release an unclassified US diplomatic cable referring to the March 15, 2006 unlawful killing of Muslim women and children at the hands of US troops, and the attempt to cover up the evidence

    Remind me who are the criminals here?

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/wikileaks-iraqi-children-in-u-s-raid-shot-in-head-u-n-says/5674959

    • Rosemary McDonald 1.1
      20 April 2019 at 10:35 am

      “”When? I was being taught about greenhouse gasses and destruction of the rainforest when I was at school 25 years ago. To be fair, I wasn’t listening, I’d just discovered wanking.”

      Yep. And our so called Leaders are still at it. That and buttsnorkelling the rich. After my wee rant the other day and the ensuing slap down from the TS ‘community’ I really couldn’t be naffed posting links to others who are similarly disgusted at our species distorted priorities.

      These Worthies really do believe Man’s puny efforts at construction are more valuable than anything nature might have wrought. They will be more than happy to destroy even more of the planet to rebuild a monument to Man’s superiority.

      While the homeless sleep under bridges and in shop doorways.

      We don’t deserve this planet.

      Thanks for posting that francesca.

      • marty mars 1.1.1
        20 April 2019 at 10:50 am

        It was a timing issue not content issue imo

      • patricia bremner 1.1.2
        20 April 2019 at 7:52 pm

        Rosemary, yes it was a beautiful place, so was the ocean in the 60's not full of plastic, and full of healthy life.

        We have wrecked the world and have lost any sense of values, so the destruction just seems to underline the general failure to cope.

        There should be money for the Extinction Rebellion.

  2. lprent 2
    20 April 2019 at 10:13 am

    That was annoying. The boot drive decided that it didn’t like the old drive controller it has been shoved on. It also failed on the reboots because the card didn’t reset. Needed a power off

    And the spare raid drive on that card has disappeared.

    New IBM sata card has been ordered. But it is easter, I will probably have to drop a cable off one of the other drives and give it to the boot.

    • Incognito 2.1
      20 April 2019 at 10:17 am

      Could be worse, I thought you’d lost your Easter egg behind the chicken wire 😉

    • The Fairy Godmother 2.2
      20 April 2019 at 10:17 am

      I appreciate all the work you do to keep the Standard running for us. Thank you.

    • Rosemary McDonald 2.3
      20 April 2019 at 10:38 am

      “That was annoying.”

      And that was all I understood of your comment. It sounds really serious, so well done for fixing it.

      (what is a ‘raid drive’, and why would one need a spare? )

      • lprent 2.3.1
        20 April 2019 at 10:57 am

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID

        To provide safe storage for TS, I have 4 small (120GB) SSDs mounted in a RAID1 disk array. Two of them mirror each other. The other two are spares that come on line and duplicate if one of the active drives fails. In other words it is always online backup system with spares.

        In addition. to provide system storage for my other systems, I have 8 2TB drives in a RAID6 providing 12TB of slower storage. RAID6 can have up to 2 disks fail in the array and still rebuild itself when fresh disks are added.

        Then there is a boot SSD.

        Problem is that it all relies on having drive ports. I had it running on a microsem SATA card which cooked itself. Problem is that I haven’t found a good replacement for it yet. Some of the processes on the system are a bit intense (like the whole of TS backs up offline every hour) and the retail cards aren’t cutting it.

        I don’t want to spend too much – TS generate enough to pay for some of the solutions. But I’ve had two cards in and found problems with both.

        Now I’m getting another server rated card.

        • francesca 2.3.1.1
          20 April 2019 at 11:15 am

          It’s really extraordinary the work you put in to keep this valuable site going
          Much awe and gratitude and probably time for another donation

          • lprent 2.3.1.1.1
            20 April 2019 at 11:23 am

            I really don’t have much time to expend on the site. But there are synergies.

            I’m a programmer whose partner does video, so I usually have a lot of gear and software tools accessible at home (when I’m here – spent a lot of time working offshore site work recently).

            It integrates well with my server so I’m usually fixing that for my own benefit.

          • patricia bremner 2.3.1.1.2
            20 April 2019 at 7:54 pm

            Same. 100+ Thanks

  3. alwyn 3
    20 April 2019 at 10:43 am

    Well, what are we going to do about this man’s legacy?
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/111980198/ros-lewis-was-sexually-assaulted-by-james-k-baxter-at-jerusalem-she-wasnt-the-only-one
    Given the treatment that Israel Folau has been given for merely quoting what the Bible says about sinners what can be done about Baxter’s behaviour?
    Will he be dug up and a wooden stake driven through his heart?
    Will we have to gather up all the books with his poetry in them and have a mass bonfire?
    Will he have to be removed from any New Zealand literature classes and be expunged from history?
    After all, he can’t simply be accepted as having simply been a man of his times and be held blameless.
    Or is it different when a hero of the left misbehaves?

    Personally I wouldn’t mind in the slightest if nobody ever had to read his poetry again. I thought it was utter rubbish. That was only a personal opinion though and there were people I knew who regarded him as a genius.
    The funny thing was that the same people were on the other side to myself when we discussed McCahon. I thought he was one of the greatest painters of all time and they thought he was a charlatan.

    • marty mars 3.1
      20 April 2019 at 11:02 am

      Bit fizzy for Easter there alwyn.

      You seem to be extrapolating to catastrophe.

      Hero worship always ends in tears.

    • higherstandard 3.2
      20 April 2019 at 11:03 am

      ‘Of course, it would be wrong to suggest this sort of mayhem began with rock-and-roll. After all, there were riots at the premiere of Mozart’s “The Magic Flute.” So, what’s the answer? Ban all music? In this reporter’s opinion, the answer, sadly, is ‘yes’.’

    • fender 3.3
      20 April 2019 at 11:49 am

      “I thought he was one of the greatest painters of all time and they thought he was a charlatan.”

      Well that’s truly surprising. I’d always believed you to be a pox ridden conservative having more in common with the hapless Chen Werry.

      • alwyn 3.3.1
        20 April 2019 at 6:59 pm

        You silly little fellow. I am neither pox-ridden nor shall I die on the gallows. Those results would happen only if I were to embrace your mistress or your politics. I have no intention of doing either.

        With apologies to John Wilkes.

    • AB 3.4
      20 April 2019 at 12:12 pm

      If you’ve read the poetry this disclosure doesn’t come as a great surprise. It’s a seething, conflicted mixture of Baxter’s own puritanism and his reaction against it.
      “What is this man, this glittering dung-fed fly that burrows in foul earth” is appalling misogyny combined with self-hatred. But it also shows the rare linguistic horsepower of a genuine poet. Fine artists are not necessarily nice people.
      A good bit of his poetry, if not “utter rubbish” is uneven, wordy, preachy and almost impossible to read these days. But some, including a fair bit of the later stuff ironically dating from the Jerusalem period, is very good.
      The Baxter idolatry that happened for a few years after his death in 1972 was always stupid. Jerusalem was soon recognised as not being a long-term model for anything, and to call him a “hero of the left” is preposterous.
      He, his poetry and his legacy were always flawed – this makes it look even more so.

    • Psycho Milt 3.5
      20 April 2019 at 1:53 pm

      Given the treatment that Israel Folau has been given for merely quoting what the Bible says about sinners what can be done about Baxter’s behaviour?

      I’m no medical professional or behavioural psychologist, but I’m pretty sure that there is nothing that can be done to punish, educate or rehabilitate the dead, in fact no mechanism for responding to or modifying their behaviour in even the slightest degree, what with them being dead and suchlike.

    • Grant 3.6
      20 April 2019 at 2:54 pm

      Alcoholism and religious flakery are usually fairly good indications that an individual’s decision making and social behaviour may turn out to be somewhat sub-par. This applies equally to McCahon and Baxter.

    • Gabby 3.7
      20 April 2019 at 5:15 pm

      Wally be out of the Wallabies wally?

  4. joe90 4
    20 April 2019 at 10:44 am

    Because reinstating a spectacularly unsuccessful embargo and impoverishing Cubans will work wonders. Idiots.

    https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1118508240520617984

    Bolton said remittances will be capped at $1,000 per person every three months, compared to the unlimited remittances allowed by the Obama administration “under the assumption that capital inflows would benefit the Cuban people. Yet, the situation for Cubans has in fact worsened.”

    The U.S. Treasury Department also will suspend Obama-era authorizations that allowed Cuban companies and banks to perform “U-turn” transactions in third countries that passed indirectly through the U.S. banking system. Bolton said that allowed the Cuban government to evade U.S. sanctions and obtain access to hard currencies.

    In addition, the State Department will add five companies to its list of restricted entities, including Aerogaviota, an airline controlled by Gaviota, a group of tourism-related companies controlled by the Cuban armed forces. Those measures are in addition to the full implementation of the Helms-Burton law, which will allow lawsuits in federal courts seeking compensation for properties confiscated by the Cuban government after 1959. The step was formally announced by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Wednesday morning and is scheduled to take effect on May 2.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article229341009.html

  5. lprent 5
    20 April 2019 at 11:07 am

    Try this comment editor out. It seems to work on my testing without problems.

    I will hook it up so that either can be used and test it in the audience of critics for a day or two to see if there are issues.

    • lprent 5.1
      20 April 2019 at 11:14 am

      Test a quote

      Bold, italic, underline, strike-out, link and cool

      • Andre 5.1.1
        20 April 2019 at 11:29 am

        How about a link to a comment?

        edit: Yup, seems to be retaining the comment number and going directly to the comment. Yay!

        • lprent 5.1.1.1
          20 April 2019 at 11:38 am

          Yeah, that is a bit of a pain and a couple of small attempts to fix it bounced because the cause was obscure.

          I’ve had a brief look at the oEmbed that runs it. In typical wordpress fashion it isn’t exactly well documented. Moreover I have to get into the section of the code about the current site reading a link from itself and get it to discriminate. That means digging down into the code.

          On the other hand I have 10 days off. 😈

          Update: Interesting… https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-20-04-2019/#comment-1609607

          • Andre 5.1.1.1.1
            20 April 2019 at 11:43 am

            If this new comment editor runs without niggling issues like that, then why bother trying to fix issues with the older way?
            Anyone sufficiently tech challenged to have trouble working out how to copy a URL and paste it into the correct box in that linking doodad need only ask and no doubt lots of people here will jump in to help out.

          • Andre 5.1.1.1.2
            20 April 2019 at 11:52 am

            An interesting thing is the old way of linking to a comment worked OK when it was part of a sentence like this https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-20-04-2019/#comment-1609625. It just dropped the hash and comment number when it was effectively a standalone paragraph separated from other text with enters like below.

            https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-20-04-2019/#comment-1609625

            Note that it looks like it correctly links to the comment when first submitted, but then drops the comment number and just links to the OP after you refresh.

            • lprent 5.1.1.1.2.1
              20 April 2019 at 6:38 pm

              Yeah that is the oembed style. It goes away and fetches an ‘image’ of what it is going to display ansync after it has been saved then caches it. So you don’t see it immediately, just after it has interrogated the remote site to find out what it should display and eventually received a reply.

    • lprent 5.2
      20 April 2019 at 6:43 pm

      Trying a different variation.

  6. francesca 6
    20 April 2019 at 11:23 am

    donation sorted thanks for the tutorialtongue-out

  7. The Chairman 7
    20 April 2019 at 11:25 am

    Overstayers and increasing reports of fraud and exploitation are overstretching Immigration NZ compliance officers.
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/387430/anonymous-calls-to-immigration-nz-double

    • Stuart Munro. 7.1
      20 April 2019 at 9:55 pm

      This is in fact progress – until recently Immigration was so overstretched it no longer bothered to investigate – part of the deliberate capacity destruction of the previous administration. Things are gradually improving, though the between 5 & 600 000 migrants let in without noticeable scrutiny will continue to depress labour outcomes until they retire – in 30-40 years.

  8. Siobhan 8
    20 April 2019 at 11:33 am

    Liking the comment editor thing, thanks Iprent.
    I’m a fan of the old italics and often waste a lot of time when the old way of doing it goes wrong for reasons I can never quite work out. The joys of being a committed Luddite with tech savvy pretensions.

  10. Andre 10
    20 April 2019 at 11:49 am

    A good read on the 737MAX fuckup.
    https://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/aviation/how-the-boeing-737-max-disaster-looks-to-a-software-developer
    The big question now is whether Boeing chooses to continue bodging over crappy dynamic characteristics with a software patch and regulatory bodies allow them to. Or whether bullets get bitten and there’s a substantial re-engineer to eliminate the dodgy aerodynamics.
    Looks to me like the best way forward would be to re-engineer a new longer main landing that fits the existing bays (which they kinda already did for the MAX10) and reposition the engines to a more conventional location.

    • RedLogix 10.1
      20 April 2019 at 12:20 pm

      Good read and an excellent source. The critical para in my mind is this:

      Pitch changes with increasing angle of attack, however, are quite another thing. An airplane approaching an aerodynamic stall cannot, under any circumstances, have a tendency to go further into the stall. This is called “dynamic instability,” and the only airplanes that exhibit that characteristic—fighter jets—are also fitted with ejection seats.

      None of the sources I’ve read so far has been able to quantify this. Some suggest that the pitch up isn’t that aggressive, and all MCAS was meant to do was restore a ‘similar feel’ to the previous generation 737’s. Others are less sanguine.

      If it turns out the MAX is dynamically unstable, that should be the end of it. No software fix is going to ever be acceptable.

      • Macro 10.1.1
        20 April 2019 at 5:24 pm

        the MAX is dynamically unstable

        That is what I’ve been hearing from 4 sources close to the industry ie ex war bird pilot who in close contact with all the buzz, a 737 pilot (his daughter), and 2 airline pilot instructors ( his son-in-law, and my sisters neighbour) .
        The 737MAX should never have been allowed to fly. Boeing are for the high jump on this one. They made a cavalier decision which looked at their bottom line only, and never at passenger safety.
        It also highlights the danger of constant cutbacks in government funding. The US govt (via the FAA) passed the buck for ensuring safe aircraft to manufactures, is a direct result of the constantly trimming of governmental oversight and policing regulations, with the primary goal of reducing taxes for the well off.
        Our own glaring example of reduced funding for governmental oversight are the 29 deaths at Pike River. There is some suggestion that the 50 deaths on the 15 March is also partly a result of insufficient governmental oversight from lack of funding. The tRumps cutbacks in regulation in all manner of environmental and food (the latest wrt to Pork production) is just a ticking time bomb for “unexplained” deaths and illness in the future.
        https://www.ewg.org/release/trump-wants-let-hog-farmers-decide-if-pork-safe

  11. Poission 11
    20 April 2019 at 12:07 pm

    Neil Armstrong,Frank Borman desert training in Tatooine Desert Robes” in 1964
    Tatooine Desert Robes”
    https://archive.org/details/S64-14507

  12. The Chairman 12
    20 April 2019 at 12:19 pm

    After making it to the top and now ruling out a capital gains tax under her watch, where will it be for Jacinda from here?

    • Muttonbird 12.2
      20 April 2019 at 12:30 pm

      Wayne reckons she’ll up the top tax rate to 40% and tax free under $10K which would be some consolation, but hardly something which is going to make a difference to generational inequalities. Perhaps the tax free threshold would be a change which would never be reversed but it’s still just tinkering.

      I’m just disappointed at the continued short term thinking of Kiwis and their leaders.

  13. WeTheBleeple 13
    20 April 2019 at 12:54 pm

    Pulling kumara out, many of them > 3 kg. I note a > 3 kg kumara made the Herald today…
    My PR team is killing me.

    • mac1 13.1
      20 April 2019 at 10:23 pm

      Bleeping hell, WeTheBleeple, that's fantastic. We harvested last weekend, and our largest plant got 4.1 kg. Our 48 plants grossed about 95 kg. Two years ago, our entire crop was stolen. Last year a friend in the next allotment chased away some thieves before they got too much.. This year we harvested the lot, donating a third to the local community kitchen for their weekly meal. 30 kg fed 100 people with fresh roast kumera and we were pleased to sample the kai ourselves. A great growing season this year in the top of the South.

  14. The Chairman 14
    20 April 2019 at 12:59 pm

    Sorry Muttonbird, I couldn’t directly reply.

    Seems a likely scenario. She could also look to commit revenue (to offset tax cuts) from the extension of the bright line test while also utilizing their surplus.

    Nonetheless, I was asking more along the lines of where to from here career wise. As in, will she attempt to get Labour over the line then leave mid term?

    • Muttonbird 14.1
      20 April 2019 at 3:01 pm

      I think Ardern is just shaking her head at the moment at the benighted thinking of most Kiwis and wondering what she can do against such selfishness. I’m certain she is furious with Peters.

      An extension to the bright line test to 25 years would be similar to what we were all expecting from the CGT announcement ie, a tax on capital gain from investment properties and secondary homes. It would give the middle finger to Winston Peters which is what he so richly deserves.

      That crucible of analytic thought, Kate Hawkseby, recently said JA was too good for New Zealand and her future lies with global politics. I think she’s right after the events of this week.

      • Graeme 14.1.1
        20 April 2019 at 3:49 pm

        The “bright line test” is a pretty blunt instrument in that it is saying that any sale within a certain time is taxable despite intention at time of purchase. Better, and probably more likely since it was where IRD were going in their submissions, is firmer rules around intent at purchase. Like if the business plan depends on capital gain to be profitable, then it’s taxable.

        Although IRD are getting pretty good at tipping out people that are abusing the intent at purchase provision.

        As for Hawkseby’s opinion, why can’t New Zealand have the best. Why does everything good in New Zealand have to go or be sold “overseas”. What small minded negative thinking.

        • Ed1 14.1.1.1
          20 April 2019 at 5:31 pm

          I had thought that the “bright line” merely turned the presumption about intent to profit from sale from assuming there was no such intent to assuming there was intent – but that in individual cases evidence could be provided or ‘discovered’ to justify different treatment – but I;m not expert in this area.I share the thoughts of others that there is plenty for the government to get on with, and that Ardern will continue to manage the complex relationships within a 3 party government well.

          • patricia 14.1.1.1.1
            20 April 2019 at 10:24 pm

            I know someone who recently failed the bright line test and was billed accordingly. This was her only house and she planned to live in it on retirement in 2 years time. She had a very valid reason for selling the house in under the 2 years but this was not accepted.

      • Skunk Weed 14.1.2
        20 April 2019 at 5:54 pm

        I think she has realised that CGT was going to be political suicide unless it was done properly, also we are taxed to buggary by every other tax GST, PAYE, Petrol Tax etc, etc
        A sound political decision for a first term Government ?

      • Wayne 14.1.3
        20 April 2019 at 8:55 pm

        Changing the bright line test requires legislation. Peters would not vote for it. We are not governed by prime ministerial fiat.

        • Psycho Milt 14.1.3.1
          20 April 2019 at 10:01 pm

          This stuff is the flip side of the years of Kiwiblog comments denouncing John Key for not immediately privatising everything. Some people have never really left absolute monarchy behind.

  15. Dennis Frank 15
    20 April 2019 at 2:29 pm

    Hey the new text enhancement options look cool! Not much happening apart from a spell of very mild autumn, but a Nat MP accidentally went viral on social media: https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/17-04-2019/an-explosive-interview-with-the-most-popular-mp-in-the-national-party/

    “On Sunday April 14, 2019, Andrew Falloon tweeted a photo of his dad and a cat. As of writing, the tweet has been liked 478,722 times and been retweeted 75,823 times.”

    Apparently a neighbourhood cat sensed the ailing dad needed some comfort from a friend. Photo says it all… innocent

    • Muttonbird 15.1
      20 April 2019 at 2:53 pm

      It’s been said when cats aren’t shitting in vegetable patches and fighting each other in the night they are able to detect and respond to sickness in human beings. I’d like to know the physiology behind this.

  16. Muttonbird 16
    20 April 2019 at 3:05 pm

    I reckon Labour needs to ask Tracey Martin to join them before NZF dies a horrible death.

    • MickeyBoyle 16.1
      20 April 2019 at 3:47 pm

      I dont see NZFirst going anywhere whilst Winston’s around, but as you allude to, he wont be around forever. Anyone else see Garners attack piece on Stuff?, sorry I dont know how to link to it, but it was pretty brutal 😕

      • Muttonbird 16.1.1
        20 April 2019 at 4:20 pm

        No one takes Garner seriously and true to form he is all over the place in that article. It is rambling, tabloid stuff which comes to no meaningful conclusions whatsoever.

      • francesca 16.1.2
        20 April 2019 at 4:44 pm

        Terrible piece by Garner.
        What is it with that guy
        And opinion pieces, of which there are far too many posing as news , mean that journalistic standards can be bypassed.

  17. Dennis Frank 17
    20 April 2019 at 3:46 pm

    File this under bugger: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41561-019-0335-5

    “Here we present the observations of atmospheric microplastic deposition in a remote, pristine mountain catchment (French Pyrenees). We analysed samples, taken over five months, that represent atmospheric wet and dry deposition and identified fibres up to ~750 µm long and fragments ≤300 µm as microplastics. We document relative daily counts of 249 fragments, 73 films and 44 fibres per square metre that deposited on the catchment. An air mass trajectory analysis shows microplastic transport through the atmosphere over a distance of up to 95 km.”

    “Microplastics are tiny pieces that break off larger plastic items (such as bottles and bags) as they degrade in the environment, as well as the fibers that slough off synthetic fabrics. They come in a wide range of sizes—from a grain of rice down to a virus—and are made up of a complex variety of polymers and added chemicals.”

    “Most research to detect microplastics in the environment has been done in the ocean, where they were first noticed, but scientists have slowly realized they are also present in freshwater systems, soil and the atmosphere. The first study to measure plastic fallout from the atmosphere—conducted in Paris—was published only in 2015.” https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/microplastics-are-blowing-in-the-wind/

  18. The Chairman 18
    20 April 2019 at 3:53 pm

    My apologies Muttonbird, once again I was unable to directly reply (text won’t enter on reply).

    I think Labour made a big mistake leaving another void straight off the bat of their CGT announcement/abandonment. Outlining an alternative now would have reduced the widespread outrage and disappointment.

    As for Jacinda, with the amount of positive attention she’s been receiving, the world has got to be her oyster. Hence, one wonders how much longer she will stay?

    Was her not on her watch call on CGT a hint she may leave?

    • Muttonbird 18.1
      20 April 2019 at 4:02 pm

      I wouldn’t blame her. We’ve yet again shown ourselves to be selfish, unambitious and short-sighted.

      • The Chairman 18.1.1
        21 April 2019 at 3:11 pm

        We’ve yet again shown ourselves to be selfish, unambitious and short-sighted.

        What do you mean by "we've"?

        Wasn't it short-sighted (and questionably wrong) off Jacinda to think the majority of voters who would have supposedly benefited from it wouldn't have supported it?

        Thus, wasn't it also short-sighted (and again questionably wrong) of Jacinda to think Labour couldn't win the next election without NZ First?

    • lprent 18.2
      20 April 2019 at 6:34 pm

      I was unable to directly reply (text won’t enter on reply).

      Interesting. I will have a quick look at that now that I have my head out of the android code. I did test it.

      What operating system and browser are you using?

      I’m going to change the implementation of new comments off now. We seem to have had lower comments than usual and I’m not sure it if it is just easter or people not being able to leave comments.

      • Grant 18.2.1
        20 April 2019 at 6:57 pm

        Repy pane working fine for me on latest Win10 and latest Chrome. Just discovered it wouldn't let me copy and paste the version of Chrome the Rt click way though. Got a pop up saying to use Ctrl + V to paste? Interesting. Won't let me cancel reply by hitting the top right tab. Also there’s this: ampersand hash 309 semi-colon in place of an apostrophe in the edit pane.

      • The Chairman 18.2.2
        21 April 2019 at 10:58 am

        Thanks for looking into that, lprent. Whatever you did seems to have solved the problem. Cheers.

    • Dv 18.3
      20 April 2019 at 7:14 pm

      test bold itallic underline sduijyty

      Cool

  19. Robert Guyton 19
    20 April 2019 at 4:11 pm

    The Chairman – forever sowing the seeds of doubt…

    • Muttonbird 19.1
      20 April 2019 at 4:18 pm

      True but have the events of the last week not caused you to doubt this government?

      They have lurched to the right real quick.

      • Ed1 19.1.1
        20 April 2019 at 5:42 pm

        The increases to minimum wage and to benefits will have taken effect this month – do you think Muttonbird that a whole lot of people happy with getting more in their hands will think they are so well off that they should support the party of the 1%? What we are finding out is that MMP is delivering a government with inbuilt potential for different views needing to be taken into account for any contentious legislation – probably what the voters who supported NZ First were looking for don’t you think? But a lurch to the right – Naah – more like a bit of a pause in one area – but not stopping some great advances elsewhere. Looking for news from newspapers or the TV misses a lot – its worthwhile having a look at https://www.beehive.govt.nz/ – there is more going on than most peope realise.

      • Robert Guyton 19.1.2
        20 April 2019 at 7:02 pm

        With regard governance, I am forever riddled with doubt, and justifiably so smiley

        • Psycho Milt 19.1.2.1
          20 April 2019 at 9:58 pm

          And thank you (for what little the thanks of someone outside your electorate counts) for that doubt. "The stupid are cocksure" should be the motto of far too many NZ politicians.

  21. Compass Rose 21
    20 April 2019 at 5:39 pm

    Nina Paley is an independent feminist animator and copyright activist. Here is a link to her second feature length animation film, Seder-Masochism, a retelling of the story of Exodus and a personal exploration of the Jewish Passover tradition in an atheist Jewish-American context, and an underlying examination of how patriarchal religious god-worship overtook matriarchal religious goddess worship over the ages. Free. Copying is an act of love. Happy Easter. Shalom. Peace to all womankind! https://archive.org/details/sedermasochism/

  23. alwyn 23
    20 April 2019 at 6:37 pm

    I can put a fresh comment in but if I try and reply to another comment I don’t get any area to type the reply. Is it me and if so how can I fix it?

    • Robert Guyton 23.1
      20 April 2019 at 7:00 pm

      It's you.

    • alwyn 23.2
      20 April 2019 at 7:00 pm

      There must be a God. I no sooner asked this question that I was able to reply to comments. A miracle.

      ps And thank you for your kind thought Robert. I’m sure you mean the comment in a helpful and friendly manner.

      • Robert Guyton 23.2.1
        20 April 2019 at 7:04 pm

        No need to thank me, it's what I do.
        (I saw there was a bustle in your hedgerow and I plucked it out, for sure. Problem solved).

    • Incognito 23.3
      20 April 2019 at 7:12 pm

      Test reply.

      Edit: that seems to work.

      PS: I was behind the eight ball, us usual, it seems …

  25. CHCoff 25
    20 April 2019 at 7:39 pm

    So much media is a drone these days, because alot of it is political, which is a sign of economic dysfunction.

    • alwyn 26.1
      20 April 2019 at 9:20 pm

      There is an old superstition in Baseball that no-one must mention that a no-hitter is in progress until the game is over. To do so will immediately cause a hit to be made.

      This clearly applies to Rugby as well. No sooner was the unbeaten string highlighted than they had a draw and then a loss. See the updated story you linked to here

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sevens/112172893/new-zealand-on-verge-of-record-run-at-world-womens-sevens-in-japan

      • The Al1en 26.1.1
        21 April 2019 at 1:49 am

        Allez le bleus

      • CHCoff 26.1.2
        21 April 2019 at 5:13 pm

        When sport is the winner, and NZ is involved at it's top echelon in international happenings, it's great for NZ.

        So Rugby tradionally is our major sporting pride, that was why it counted so much in who we are and represented NZ, we were all winners through the game (despite the increasing problems at the top), international a reflection of provincial, a reflection of local community participation and shared value.

        South African world cup Springbok win example of this, top draw NZ sporting national comps in subtley, talents and fantastic matches, national team close to getting it right to that on international stage in showing off the greatness of the game this part of the world. The deserved greatness then, of the meaning of the Springbok win, whatever the questionable circumstances, had no small part of it due to that NZ was a winner to that sporting event.

        Black Ferns rugby then, is an inherently relatively strong form of the NZ game, and would be very worthy to see continually grow.

  27. lprent 27
    20 April 2019 at 9:02 pm

    Testing this version of the comment editor on the cellphone

  28. Eco Maori 28
    21 April 2019 at 10:11 am

    Whanau you know Easter was my favourite time in Te tairawhiti we would dry the cow off dig the kumara and patatoes we had plenty of kai all the bottles of kawai dryed kawai.

    Easter was awesome the harvest season .

    Whanau I can see that some of the story has come to past Kia Kaha Whanau Eco Maori will KEEP educationing you the systems of the PAPATUANUKUE Ka kite ano

  29. Eco Maori 29
    21 April 2019 at 10:25 am

    Some Eco Maori Music for the minute

    https://youtu.be/u9Dg-g7t2l4

    Wish you a happy Easter Whanau

  30. Eco Maori 30
    21 April 2019 at 12:56 pm

    Whanau I was trying to have the sound of silence in the post above. That's all the sandflys can do stuff with my Internet.

    https://youtu.be/tgIqecROs5M

  32. Eco Maori 32
    21 April 2019 at 2:02 pm

    Scott morrion is the worst person in Australia for climate change deniers he carried a lump of carbon into the Australian parliament and showed carbon the love. Time for neanderthal to be kicked out on their Ass.

    Our leaders are ignoring global warming to the point of criminal negligence. It's unforgivable

    I’ve been asking myself a question – and even posing it makes me queasy.

    Is it too late – are we beyond saving?

    As a culture and a polity, when it comes to climate change, have we arrived at a point where we are now expected – even trained – to abandon hope and submit to the inevitable

    OK, I guess that’s two questions. In good faith I can still say that the answer to the first is no. But I’d be a liar and a fool to give the same response to the second.

    No, it isn’t too late. But we’ve squandered decades of opportunities to mitigate and forestall impacts and we’re making a pig’s breakfast of responding to what is now a crisis. Even so, humans are not yet beyond saving themselves from the worst ravages of global warming. There’s fight in us yet, even if it’s a bit shapeless.

    Enough scandalous time-wasting on climate change. Let's get back to the facts

    Lenore Taylor

    Lenore Taylor

    Read more

    The problem – and it’s an existential threat both profound and perverse – is that those who lead us and have power over our shared destiny are ignoring global warming to the point of criminal negligence. Worse than

    OK, I guess that’s two questions. In good faith I can still say that the answer to the first is no. But I’d be a liar and a fool to give the same response to the second.

    No, it isn’t too late. But we’ve squandered decades of opportunities to mitigate and forestall impacts and we’re making a pig’s breakfast of responding to what is now a crisis. Even so, humans are Ka kite ano P.S I'm trying to get my head around this new format can not cut and paste on computer.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/20/our-leaders-are-ignoring-global-warming-to-the-point-of-criminal-negligence-its-unforgivable

    https://youtu.be/mOFvJVroAJE

  33. Eco Maori 33
    21 April 2019 at 3:37 pm

    Some Eco Maori Music for the minute.

    https://youtu.be/tgVVG5EknuI

    The sandflys think they are so skill because they can break in A Whare take small things that you will notice and return them a couple days later YEA RIGHT you got the power of the state at your disposal. P.S I know that the first person to read my posts are sandflys they often play with their sirens when I hit a soft spot

  34. Eco Maori 34
    21 April 2019 at 5:08 pm

    Whanau I did say the 00.1 % serve themselves first and formost here is more evedince like a kid in a room full of chocolate Times are changing the next generation want there brown next door neighbour to have a good healthy happy equal life life them WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT NEANDERTHALS.

    EQUALITY. And a healthy ENVIRONMENT for All and wildlife time for Australian to change GOVERNMENT.

    Selling water to the highest bidder at the expense of Australias beautiful wildlife WTF .

    While the government dismissed calls for an inquiry, Shorten called on the prime minister to say whether he backed Joyce’s handling of the contracts and whether he would accept an audit.

    Questions over companies chosen for $200m of Murray-Darling water buybacks

    “Produce all the documents, all the documents,” Shorten said. “… Is [Scott Morrison] going to stake his reputation on whether or not all of these matters have been done above board

    , now a backbencher, signed off on the $200m in water buybacks in 2017. The process took place without an open tender and there has been criticism of the reliability of the water purchased, although the department says it undertook “due diligence activities

    Ka kite ano link below

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/apr/20/coalition-faces-calls-for-inquiry-into-murray-darling-deals-signed-by-barnaby-joyce

    https://youtu.be/bjJXKE8ws_c

  35. Eco Maori 35
    21 April 2019 at 6:27 pm

    Kia ora Newshub .

    Its a crying shame that some people can act so evilly and kill somemany innocent people.

    That's cool the small people get a good outcome from the courts James Hardy faulty products causing 100 of millions in damages ruining people lives about time ruling that James Hardy can be sued.

    Good on those girls who have come up with the idea to use those bettles to kill that imported weed innovation at its best.

    Thanks to critical history report that is educating people exactly what happened and a view into Maori reality and why we are grieving about the unjustices of the past Ka kite ano

  36. Eco Maori 36
    22 April 2019 at 8:45 am

    Some Eco Maori Music for the minute

    https://youtu.be/Us-TVg40ExM

    I know that the majority of Common Tangata stand by ECO MAORI

  37. Eco Maori 37
    22 April 2019 at 10:02 am

    Some Eco Maori Music for the minute

    https://youtu.be/iqeOTg2a-l8

  38. Eco Maori 38
    22 April 2019 at 10:56 am

    Some Eco Maori Music for the minute.

    https://youtu.be/rY0WxgSXdEE

    I like reforms

  39. Eco Maori 39
    22 April 2019 at 11:10 am

    Whanau the figures about the losses to Maori are very low in my view on Reality there are a lot of other factors besides income earnt that can be counted as a Economic loss to tangata whenua O Atoearoa

    That would definitely not include the Whenua that was ripped from Tangata Whenua

    Inequalities in education, employment and income for Māori are costing the New Zealand economy $2.6 billion a year – and, if the issue isn't fixed it will increase every year to reach $4.3 billion by 2040.

    Change Agenda: Income Equity for Māori is a joint report from Business and Economic Research Ltd (BERL), Ngāi Tahu iwi and the Māori Business and Economic Research Ltd (BERL), Ngāi Tahu iwi and the Māori Futures Collective. The report released on Thursday is described by the authors as a call to action. It puts a dollar value on inequality and how it creates an economic loss for Māori, but it also puts a figure on the economic benefits of Māori success to the nation

    The current inequalities for Māori create significant social and economic harms for our communities and whānau," says Dr Eruera Tarena from the Māori Futures Collective.

    "If we choose to allow those inequalities to grow then social and economic harm will be felt by everybody because it will get to a scale where everyone will feel that pain Ka kite ano P.S the chocolate eaters cannot see that with EQUALITY every one is happy healthy not just them. Times are changing links below Ka kite ano.

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/102643651/inequality-depriving-maori-and-the-economy-of-26b-every-year

    https://youtu.be/rynnk2LBEY0

  40. Eco Maori 40
    22 April 2019 at 2:41 pm

    The governments of the world are corrupt that is the only explanation on what is going on in Papatuanukue at the minute .

    They listen to the mighty $$$$$££$$$$$$$$$$£¢$£€€#(€$$$$$$$$$.

    But so long as the 99.9 % of people let them know we are not believing there lies ANYMORE and protest about global warming and poverty and our wild life they will have to make the changes need to fix our decendints FUTURE. KIA KAHA Extinction protesters

    Governments will no longer be able ignore the impending climate and ecological crisis, Greta Thunberg, the teenage climate activist, has told Extinction Rebellion protesters gathered at Marble Arch in London.

    In a speech on Sunday night where she took aim at politicians who have for too long been able to satisfy demands for action with “beautiful words and promises”, the Swedish 16-year-old said humanity was sitting at a crossroads, but that those gathered had chosen which path they wish to take.

    “I come from Sweden and back there its almost the same problem as here, as everywhere, that nothing is being done to stop an ecological crisis despite all the beautiful words and promises,” she told the crowd.

    “We are now facing an existential crisis, the climate crisis and ecological crisis which have never been treated as crises before, they have been ignored for decades

    Ka kite ano link below

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/21/extinction-rebellion-london-protesters-offer-pause-climate-action

    https://youtu.be/SKprXO-f2pM

    You make me get a sore face when I see you fighting for our decendints futures

  41. Eco Maori 41
    22 April 2019 at 6:24 pm

    Kia ora Newshub.

    The Sri Lanka attacks Eco Maori has a good insight to whats going on but I cannot say its a crying shame people want equality and happiness. That's all I can say the Internet gone down Ka kite ano P.S the dirty cheats

  42. Cricklewood 42
    22 April 2019 at 7:34 pm

    Test

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