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https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/300456239/lake-waikaremoana-and-its-great-walk-have-been-closed-for-months-as-thoe-say-the-relationship-with-the-crown-has-failed
I get the feeling this is working out exactly how most Tuhoe would want it.
And exactly how 3Waters is going to turn out
It will not be re-opening in any form of Level 2, and don't have the resource to enforce the Traffic Light system.
Alerts and Important Information : Tuhoe (ngaituhoe.iwi.nz)
And of course DOC don't function there.
Went there last year and it was a mess. Track to the start was only accessible now by 4WD, no huts maintained, no one there, no track maintenance, nothing.
The Waikeremoana circuit is largely only visited by the occasional hunter.
There's no trapping or pest control.
Some of this has been made worse by COVID, but this ex-National Park is never coming back.
They promised to maintain public access as part of the deal, and in fact that it "would not be compromised in any way."
Iwi wants to run Te Urewera National Park – NZ Herald
This is solely a Tuhoe failure.
Yes – that's the same message I'm hearing from the online tramping community I'm also involved in. One source I trust outlined an unpleasant encounter with a local – passive aggressive signals that make it clear 'you're not welcome here'.
No I have not been a Park Ranger.
I was just doing the circuit with my sister.
Sorry I misunderstood.
The sad thing here is that Tuhoe are sitting on a cultural/environmental goldmine if they chose to use it wisely.
Like no one saw this coming.
Still it's their land. Whatever.
"Still it's their land"
Aye it surely is. After 150 years of putting up with the rules set by a government they never signed any treaty with, they have to fly right?
".. this ex-National Park is never coming back." 'Coming back'? Good grief!!
Just read the Stuff article for the evidence.
If you've lost the ability to point and name failure, you are part of it.
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The dogmatic Woke deploy a highly Paternalistic Nobel Savage Romanticism … [Māori as eternally innocent, eternally virtuous … essentially powerless children, always the victim, always selfless in motivation, always bereft of agency] … to display their "unusually refined moral sensibilities" and enhance their social prestige as they consolidate their privilege & power … these "heroic" Upper-Middle Class Rescuers will close down all criticism of poor Māori governance, corruption, nepotism. And the affluent Woke will, of course, never be the ones suffering the profoundly negative consequences. This is the future we're looking at.
Look, I'm about as HomoPomoGeo as the next person, do 4am Matins venerating the patron saints of woke lost causes, burn midnight offerings to the Protestant work ethic of irredeemable capitalism one flat rebuild skip of waste at a time, and apply the carding brush of inadequacy to my irreconciled black summer dogfur of vanity. So I may well not demur from the nom-de-plume of that same terrifying future you see.
All I can take from that comment is that:
(a) Your lack of insight renders you blind to your white privilege, so well displayed by your pearl clutching because you aren't getting your 'national park back'
(b) You're too thick to comprehend what I've written.
Tuhoe don't care whether you approve or not that they aren't administering the land in the way you think fit. They are gleefully (with a fair amount of humour) watching your frustration and humiliation with more than a little schadenfreude.
Aye it surely is. After 150 years of putting up with the rules set by a government they never signed any treaty with, they have to fly right?
Some Tuhoe leaders have long held to the romantic idea this means they never became part of the NZ state and never subject to it's Parliament.
Want to go there?
Well yes, if they agreed to.
They did sign an agreement to keep it open to all and run under co governance. Guess its different if they are dishonest a??
"online tramping"?
What's the world coming too???!
Can you google 'online tramps' for me and see what comes up?
But seriously I do appreciate DOCs website for planning purposes
It's much easier on the knees – trust me.
I warned several times on this website that this would happen, and it has. And it will happen again once iwi get the rest of our national parks
you’ve ignored moderation, so now putting you on the ban list until you respond. Look back in past few days to my replies to you to see what that is about. Your comments will no longer appear on the front end until this is resolved.
Hi weka
I, personally, have no issue with what Millsy says, he adds humour to this site and he certainly brings a 'fresh' and 'unique' perspective to discussions
Free the Millsy!
I have no problem with them participating on site either. I do have a problem with dropping random reckons into threads about controversial public figures with the intention of participating in debate and not providing back up for what they say when asked. Read the Policy, it’s clear.
Further, they're on the ban list because they ignored moderation.
All that is easily resolved by Millsy responding to the original requests.
here ya go, Rules,
It’s about upholding the robust debate ethic.
A commenter can say they think Greenwald is full of shit, moving right, whatever (that’s their opinion). Once they start saying specific things like “he wants Trump back in”, that needs either a link and specific quote, or it needs an actual argument for why this might be true (and backed up). We’re not FB, random reckons occasionally are ok, but not as a major discussion point for the day.
Fair enough
you of all people should know what happens when you ignore moderation 😛
Pucky's certainly making up for lost time!
He is!
At the risk of his head swelling, I do think debate and entertainment on site have improved recently.
…said the man with a wooden leg 🙂
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/20f8d722-be71-4122-82bd-c4b82aa69fe1
I don't post at work so I save it up for when I'm at home (also don't like posting on my phone)
You'd be fair fit-to-burstin' by the time the 'go home" whistle blew!
Its mostly 12 hour shifts for us now
out of moderation now. Please be more careful in the future both about backing up, and responding to mod notes. I've made a note in the back end to that effect in case there is a next time.
Waiting for more handouts I guess, sitting back and expecting "initiative".
I remember some 25 years ago visiting, it felt actually being in the movie Deliverance. I'd hazard a guess it hasn't improved.
As you say bwaghorn….its politics, if pakeha want flash tracks and huts and tourists then they (via the Gov) need to front the dollars ….and Tuhoe will happily reap the income generated….and if the dollars atrnt forthcoming then they have lost nothing and the land remains in their control.
You’re putting words into my keyboard! I think tuhoe are in the wrong, they agreed to the terms and a not holding there side up. The article says there is $2.3 mill base available to run it ,with provision to up it if needed,
Kruger says they wont let doc do work on tracks because thaey want their people to do the work, then admit they cant get there people to do it.
I grew up in the shadow of the Uruwera and spent a chunk of my 20s hunting and pest controlling there ,also had a basic batch at tuai for a time ,it saddens me greatly that the door is closing on the opportunity to take my young'n there .
Sunday morning video for Gezza, and anyone else who has done video editing and understands how much a labour of love this would have been.
For everyone else, Hollywood in its heyday.
Its good. Bit too much Mickey Rooney and not enough Gene Kelly for my liking.
Try this for a more modern take:
Sorry, PR…
Editing, scene selection and transition not comparable in my view.
OK though
Hmm tough crowd, ok how about this with very little Mickey Rooney:
Thanks for posting Molly. They don't make them like they used to
And following from PR here's Gene Kelly, singing in the rain. Surely this is the most impressive dance sequence ever (that and the piece included in the clipof GK Debbie Reynolds and some other dude. Really worth watching the full dance routine
A really good movie but have you considered:
I have to admit retrospectively finding Cab Calloway only after watching the Blues Brothers… but since then, have preferred this to Joe Jackson's cover. Thanks.
Theres a few moves in here that make me wince and cross my legs and how the gosh darn heck do they manage to do the splits and then stand up only using their legs?
I know… the first video I posted included that clip and I grimace every time.
"how the gosh darn heck do they manage to do the splits and then stand up only using their legs?"
Sprung-steel inner-leg inserts – an old dancers' trick. The inserts Josephine Baker used were so cunningly hidden, no one ever saw them!
Thanks. Still sounds terrifying to have such a contraption in your strides.
Let's not forget what happened to Wallace…
If you turn the captions on in the first video – the editor has added movie names and years.
(The other dude is Donald O'Connor, Song: Good Morning from Singing in the Rain movie.)
Note: Imagine the studio insurance today for James Cagney @ 3:43.
Wouldn't want to do that drunk
… couldn't do it drunk… or sober
Cheers Molly (3) … I thoroughly enjoyed the video. I loved the old Hollywood musicals. Although there was a feast of them during my growing up years and the story lines somewhat insipid in some, it was always the dancing that won over the audiences
Thanks for sharing.
My memories – flawed perhaps – are of watching with my mother on rainy afternoons.
Glad you enjoyed it, though it makes my only dance move – 80's sidestep and finger click seem so inadequate. Might be inspired to go for the occasional forward kick!
Fantastic….editing and original dancing,
Doxxing a woman in Scotland. Let's see how fast the police respond to this.
https://twitter.com/Obsolesence/status/1462067037421948935
Richard has deleted their tweet now.
(I wondered how long it would take. It was still up when I posted.)
Women's Hour BBC, talking with Nancy Kelley, current CEO of Stonewall and touching on the transphobic label ascribed to JK Rowling.
Another quote from Nancy Kelley, when trying to stop the publication of the BBC article on the cotton ceiling: 'We're being pressured into sex by some trans women
And this is the woman who declared in Women's Hour interview that she wanted more influence:
Ms Kelley added: "In reality, I don't think we've had any real influence over editorial policy. It will be lovely to have more, we would love to be able to kind of have a great amount of influence over the way that the LGBTQ stories are covered by everyone."
"We'd love to have more influence in the world, we want to grow more inclusive," she said.
Some back pedalling from Stonewall
After some backlash
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/411482bc-4984-11ec-aa43-5cc5157b09b9?shareToken=a9f1413e89b1ec6780cfc69715813aaa
Follow up tweet here. All comments I read were about the doxxing and stalking, and reminders they may be acting unlawfully…“aka serious and threatening transphobic messages.”
https://twitter.com/Richard_Energy_/status/1462128840889798665
Bastards.
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Apparently ZB stations are going to amplify the Groundswell protest? They intend to open vehicle windows and play their message loudly. Will watch with interest to see if they attract people they would rather not…antivax, gun lobby, to name a couple.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300455809/recap-france-ensure-shaky-all-blacks-finish-season-with-backtoback-losses
So glad the All Blacks management decided to renew Ian Fosters contract and not sound out:
1. Scott Robertson
2. Jamie Joseph and Tony Brown
3. Dave Rennie
The french were on fire in that first half, the abs looked flat footed and tired, the second half was a ripper, shame about the result but I enjoyed it, after all its just entertainment,
As a mate said atleast we haven't peaked to soon for the world cup
'As a mate said at least we haven't peaked to soon for the world cup'
We most certainly haven't
A few more records for Foster today…including 1st time the AB's have lost at Stade DF for 21 years…Foster has a woeful record as a head coach.
Has never coached a championship winning side.
Old dinosaur ,oldboy network dud.
Retalick,Whitelock,Moodie all past their use by date .
Poor selection,no postive game plan,plenty of lame excuses.
I don't mind the All Blacks losing, its how they're losing is the issue to me.
Yeah they seem far too dependent on "moments of brilliance" rather than having any substantial gameplan they can execute.
Even when our plan was "be fitter than every other team and win in the last twenty minutes if we have to" – really started by Mourie when he was captain – you knew at least what the gameplan was. Other teams fitness has caught up and we don't seem to have any tactics or gameplan at all. Alternatively we used to wear the opposition down in the forwards first – maybe we need to go back to that. Certainly aimless kicking isn't working.
Whats the point of having guys that have played the game for 20 plus years and then drill them into a strait jacket
Makes no point
You seem to be able to only think in extremes. You've posed the question which is quite different from what I was saying so I guess you'll have to answer that yourself.
I see them as being made to stick to a poor game plan
My boss is French and Rugby mad.
It's going to be unliveable at work on Monday.
Not sound out? And not seriously look at all factors?
thread,
https://twitter.com/janeclarejones/status/1450745738531688451
https://twitter.com/ThinkBlackWoma1/status/1280845686200848384
https://twitter.com/janeclarejones/status/1280855474984955905
that one btw is where white working class men can politically ally with feminists (assuming they're ok with women having our own politics). However it does rely on acknowledging that discrimination is also a thing.
To the anti-woke I would say: that solidarity politics across class and groups that experience discrimination has been subsumed into neoliberalism doesn't mean that discrimination isn't an important political issue.
To the woke I would say: stop fudging the differences between class oppression and discrimination because it's handing power to the neolibs on a plate.
https://twitter.com/hendysh/status/1462171827476725760?s=21
Looking at NZ legislation for Human Rights:
Section 21 Prohibited grounds of discrimination
(1) For the purposes of this Act, the prohibited grounds of discrimination are—
(a) sex, which includes pregnancy and childbirth:
(b) marital status, which means being— list provided
(c) religious belief:
(d) ethical belief, which means the lack of a religious belief, whether in respect of a particular religion or religions or all religions:
(e) colour:
(f) race:
(g) ethnic or national origins, which includes nationality or citizenship:
(h) disability, which means— list provided
(i) age, which means,— list provided
(j) political opinion, which includes the lack of a particular political opinion or any political opinion:
(k) employment status, which means— list provided
(l) family status, which means— list provided
(m) sexual orientation, which means a heterosexual, homosexual, lesbian, or bisexual orientation.
The Human Rights Commission has the following:
The Students Rights NZ website also states:
Can I attend a single-sex school of my chosen gender?
Human Rights Act 1993, s 21
Yes. You have the right to freedom from discrimination on the grounds of sex, which includes gender and gender identity. However, the school may ask for proof of your gender or of your intention to transition.
I'm not as up to the play on legislation processes as others here, so my questions are:
Newshub Poll
Labour – 42.7%
National – 26.9%
ACT – 16%
Greens – 7.2%
Māori Party – 2.1%
NZ First – 2.5%
Also Luxon and Bridges surging up to … 2.5%. So still less popular than their very unpopular leader.
Anyway, Tuesday is National's last chance for a change (after that there's a week's recess and a change in December means the voters don't notice, no honeymoon, wasted opportunity).
Prediction: Simon Bridges will be leader in 48 hours.
Aren't they waiting for Luxon? If they put Bridges in now and then have to change to Luxon before the election they'll look even more like numpties.
Nobody with the ability to win wants the Nat leadership now. And maybe not even before 2023 if we bounce fairly well out of Covid next year due to 90+% vax rates and a sensibly cautious dismantling of public health restrictions.
The next leader of a National Government will be…….
David Seymour
WTF Talleys have oversite on their workers FUCKING ACC CLAIMS, fuck you labour you are dead to me if you dont fix this
https://www.1news.co.nz/2021/11/21/talleys-interfered-with-injury-claims-whistle-blowers-claim/
I have never met anyone who has worked for that company (and theres been a few) who have a good word to say about them….sadly they have a seemingly endless stream of victims.
the Talleys have for some years been arsehole employers in the meat industry
If any company needs to be put back under ACC it's them