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The current rise of populism challenges the way we think about people’s relationship to the economy.We seem to be entering an era of populism, in which leadership in a democracy is based on preferences of the population which do not seem entirely rational nor serving their longer interests. ...
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Found Neil Kinnock’s ’83 ‘I warn you’ speech this morning. This could quite easily be applied to the Key government:
If Margaret Thatcher is re-elected as Prime Minister, I warn you.
• I warn you that you will have pain –
When healing and relief depend on payment.
• I warn you that you will have ignorance –
When talents are untended and wits are wasted, when learning is a privilege and not a right.
• I warn you that you will have poverty –
When pensions slip and benefits are whittled away by a Government that won’t pay in an economy that can’t pay.
• I warn you that you will be cold –
When fuel charges are used as a tax system that the rich don’t notice and the poor can’t afford.
• I warn you that you must not expect work –
When many cannot spend, more will not be able to earn. When they don’t earn, they don’t spend. When they don’t spend, work dies.
• I warn you not to go into the streets alone after dark or into the streets in large crowds of protest in the light.
• I warn you that you will be quiet –
When the curfew of fear and the gibbet of unemployment make you obedient.
• I warn you that you will have defence of a sort –
With a risk and at a price that passes all understanding.
• I warn you that you will be home-bound –
When fares and transport bills kill leisure and lock you up.
• I warn you that you will borrow less –
When credit, loans, mortgages and easy payments are refused to people on your melting income.
If Margaret Thatcher wins, she will be more a Leader than a Prime Minister. That power produces arrogance and when it is toughened by Tebbitry and flattered and fawned upon by spineless sycophants, the boot-licking tabloid Knights of Fleet Street and placement in the Quangos, the arrogance corrupts absolutely.
If Margaret Thatcher wins –
• I warn you not to be ordinary.
• I warn you not to be young.
• I warn you not to fall ill.
• I warn you not to get old.
Neil Kinnock, Bridgend, 7 June 1983
Stupid ginga tosser
[lprent: And you’re a idiotic wingnut. Lift the level of your comments or you won’t get an opportunity to leave them. ]
I would have thought you might have applied a Higher Standard in your response, taken a more doctoral approach, looks like you’re heading for gitmo. What a shame.
Why don’t you go and play with the [if I see you speculating on people’s identities here you’ll be banned — r0b]
And Neil Kinnock was undoubtedly a stupid ginga tosser.
http://www.caledonian-comment.com/?p=6631
“And while we’re on about ineptitude, now their former leader, serial failure and boring windbag Neil Kinnock (pictured above right, accompanied by his equally boring wife Glenys) has warned Labour MPs that further undermining of Gordon Brown’s leadership would “boost the right-wing British National party (BNP) in the forthcoming European elections.’ After a weekend in which senior Labour figures struggled to end speculation about whether Brown should continue to lead the party, Kinnock called on MPs to “get behind Gordon’ and denounced talk of a leadership challenge as “ludicrous and damaging’. He said tearoom plotting would “hand victories’ to the BNP in the elections on 4 June. Under proportional representation, the BNP needs only 9% 12% of the vote to gain seats.
What palpable nonsense, typical of this serial failure Kinnock, who blew UK general election success in 1992 with his infamous “Sheffield Rally’. The BNP is a fringe party that no-one takes seriously. And to suggest that Gordon Brown is somehow a bulwark against fascism is laughable when you consider that our freedoms in the UK have been eroded with fascist zeal by no less an agency than the New Labour government. And Kinnock’s “Sheffield Rally’ was more fascist in nature and presentation than any demonstration the BNP ever mounted. Kinnock and his wife both windbag freeloaders who have earned fortunes paid for by the UK taxpayer without ever actually achieving anything for these same taxpayers should keep their juvenile leftist fantasies about BNP bogeymen for the entertainment and titilation of their ignorant, out of touch New Labour dinner party guests, doubtless all participating in metaphorical mutual masturbation as they congratulate each other on their inclusiveness and concern for the oppressed while they bank their undeserved fat salaries. ”
[lprent: You got lucky. I was about to send you to purgatory for a long time. But r0b got to it first. ]
I dont know what the f**k youre on, ‘comedy’, but I was merely posting a speech by someone and relating it to the situation we face today, personally I dont care one way or the other for Mr Kinnock, but if you subtitute the Iron Lady’s name with John Key’s name we are going to get a pretty accurate indication of the times ahead.
You must have a pretty sad life if youre going to pull up some blog post from some intolerant scotsman who thinks because women have the same priviliges and power as men the world is going to hell in a hand basket.
We must enforce the ban on commercial whaling in the Southern Ocean, Antarctic, Whale sanctuary by patrolling the area to show Whalers are not welcome. Remember the Antarctic treaty signed by Japan endeavours to protect this last pristine part of the World as a refuge for marine life and totally bans commercial for gain and profit activity whether it be shammed as “research” or not.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/06/25-1 This link is a further discussion showing the uniqueness and intelligence of these great mammals we so cruelly persecute. I would say the World really is the Water Planet and the Whale and Dolphin are its most noble, peaceful intelligent representatives.
Japan’s eco-terrorism in this protected part of the World must be discouraged by every way possible.
Desperately seeking Paul Watson.
Interpol has placed the head of anti-whaling group Sea Shepherd, Paul Watson, on its international wanted list.
The request to place him on the list was issued by Japan
A video from Peter Sinclair, Climate denial, crock of the week.