Open mike 30/06/2010

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1. Bored 1

   30 June 2010 at 7:51 am

   Time for the real unsanitised news update. Reading the NY Times market graphs http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/overview/overview.asp (a morning ritual, bit like reading TAB pages), one might have noticed that the “gains” for want of a better description of the reinflation of the bubble economy are slowly leaking away.

   At the same time the Gulf oil disaster has fallen off the front pages, despite the massive amounts of oil still leaking away into the ocean, and failed efforts to staunch the flow. In other news citizens of Chicago feel the need for handguns to protect themselves from crime, in Toronto $900mlln is wasted on inneffective policing of the G summit of world leaders who come up with doodly squat whilst Black Blocs run riot downtown……

   Interesting times, collapse is more a slow corrosion, but the end result is that the current world order is under seige and cannot lift it. Have a fine day one and all.
   • Croc 1.1

     30 June 2010 at 11:05 am

     http://chapmanchapman.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/mad-max.jpg
     • Bored 1.1.1

       30 June 2010 at 11:43 am

       Thanks Croc, notice the blue heeler and how young he is…is it tht long ago? LOL
   • john 1.2

     30 June 2010 at 12:05 pm

     Our Media News namely TV1 manipulates and leaves out any news that is disturbing. I remember Bill Ralston head of TV1 news being quoted as saying “News is Entertainment”! Ever since then I have woken up to the fatuousness of “the News”. Example, we have the worst environmental disaster in human history happening in the Gulf with 60,000 to 100,000 barrels of oil gushing into the ocean,Every Day! On the news Wendy Petrie insulted our intelligence that the so far this disaster was not as bad as the Exxon Valdez spill! A few days later the same State organ tried to tell us that only 7000 barrels were escaping daily! Then we had Close Up Showing us some Kiwis with tube devices who probably could help to stop the flow! The US Neo-Liberal privatized greed is great f..k the workers Country is collapsing unable to help itself as it has privatized all means of helping itself,by insane tax give giveways to the already filthy rich, and they won’t return the money! Anyhow The Gulf Disaster is so bad quite probably 5 to 20 million people will have to be evacuated due to toxic fumes coming from the oil and toxic dispersant being used. refer this link for real news unmanipulated and dumbed down by a respected American.
     http://www.collapsenet.com/ Play the video.

     Alternatively tune into Oprah billionnaire twice over for feel good drivel
     • john 1.2.1

       30 June 2010 at 12:39 pm

       The American media feel good hologram delusion must be maintained! That’s why Oprah gets so much dosh while American workers die from treatable illnesses cause they can’t afford the Insurance! I hope Paula Bennett enjoys her social with war Criminal General Colin Powell later this year! She will be learning corporate responsibility from the system of greed which is currently destroying the Gulf of Mexico, that’s very responsible!
   • prism 1.3

     30 June 2010 at 12:14 pm

     Bored don’t know what you’re on about. The sun is out today, so all is OK!

     Interested about what is known about the Toronto anarchists and their violence.
     The hijacking of these protests by concerned citizens is a serious problem, setting the stage for tragedy.

     I am reading James Michener story on the Hungarian uprising in the 50’s. One gunman shot a mother and her baby and started serious fighting. Interesting that one Russian from the resident forces in that or one of the gunfights, couldn’t fire against the protesters and turned his gun on the sniping forces.
     We need a lot of small decisions for the good of ordinary people to change things.
   • john 1.4

     30 June 2010 at 12:15 pm

     Our Media News namely TV1 manipulates and leaves out any news that is disturbing. I remember Bill Ralston head of TV1 news being quoted as saying “News is Entertainment”! Ever since then I have woken up to the fatuousness of “the News”. Example, we have the worst environmental disaster in human history happening in the Gulf with 60,000 to 100,000 barrels of oil gushing into the ocean,Every Day! On the news Wendy Petrie insulted our intelligence that the so far this disaster was not as bad as the Exxon Valdez spill! A few days later the same State organ tried to tell us that only 7000 barrels were escaping daily! Then we had Close Up Showing us some Kiwis with tube devices who probably could help to stop the flow! The US Neo-Liberal privatized greed is great f..k the workers Country is collapsing unable to help itself as it has privatized all means of helping itself,by insane tax give giveways to the already filthy rich, and they won’t return the money! Anyhow The Gulf Disaster is so bad quite probably 5 to 20 million people will have to be evacuated mainly to toxic fumes coming from the oil and toxic dispersant being used. refer this link for real news unmanipulated and dumbed down by a respected American.
     http://www.collapsenet.com/ Play the video.
     • prism 1.4.1

       30 June 2010 at 12:32 pm

       john could you put paragraphs in longer posts? It looks interesting but a large amount to take in and sort out when reading.
       • Bored 1.4.1.1

         30 June 2010 at 1:57 pm

         I think if we get Prism and John to add to the daily news we will have the MSM buggered. You are right Prism, I am going out into the sun to plant a tree. Yeahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Craig Glen Eden 2

   30 June 2010 at 8:15 am

   I had to laugh at John Banks this morning this guy has less principles than Rodney Hide.

   So it was only months a go I believe he was saying on the Radio that Auckland couldn’t afford to host the commonwealth games but apparently in 10 plus years we could afford to host the Olympic games whoa!

   How would we pay for that I thought? Oh and then I realised John would put it on his assistants credit card and then conveniently forget about it, brilliant! Job done.
   • I dreamed a dream 2.1

     30 June 2010 at 8:20 am

     Banks’ nternal polling probably still not good in spite of attacks on Brown. Must be desperate!
     • prism 2.1.1

       30 June 2010 at 12:19 pm

       I feel that the whole push for the supercity was to get into the driving seat to big bucks from the rugby cup. A guaranteed payer as the city must pick up any over-runs etc. Getting close and personal to government spending Halliburton style.
       • Tigger 2.1.1.1

         30 June 2010 at 10:36 pm

         “Mr Banks would not be making further comments because at this stage it was just an idea he had thought would be worth exploring…”
         Or just some random, stupid idea that will get the MSM talking about something other than the fact that he was outed as a big, fat hypocrite over spending.
3. pollywog 3

   30 June 2010 at 9:17 am

   And in local news.

   From parliament’s question time yesterday, it appears Bill English can’t comprehend that he fucked up due process in handing 4.8 mil to his PEDA LTD buddies to squander on bullshit styled pasifika themed programmes that, in all likelihood, will not make one bit of difference to the apalling Pasifikan youth jobless stats.

   I mean, who the hell decides to buy 4.8 mill of something from somebody then decide later what is they want to buy and how they want it delivered ?…Bill English thats who. Now thats all well and good if he’s using his own money but he’s not, he’s using OURS !!!

   Our dear leader of finance thinks the public purse is his own to play fast and loose with, from paying himself to live in his own house, to dishing out unneccessary taxcuts to his fatcat mates and now rewarding some dodgy company in Auckland to play gatekeeper and pseudo gov’t agency to the Pasifika community under the guise of caring about poor jobless yoof.

   Meanwhile, JR Pereira and Inga Tuigamala, the two men who will most profit from the handout are, according to pacificeyewitness.com, off on a gov’t sposored junket trip trade mission to China. Nice work if you can get, but i wonder what they’re going to trade with China ?….dead bodies and empty words being their relative real life trade expertise.

   I’m reminded of the last time a grant for services to the ‘hiphop’ community was squandered on a junket trip with the ‘guilty’ party being spirited away to Australia away from the media heat generated at that election time to avoid embarassing the gov’t.

   Given the runtime of this PEDA project (4 years) and the high level of scrutiny by the Pasifika community, i’d be using the time in China to give JR and Inga some media training to handle the jandal they’re surely gonna get when they get back. Playing the jolly brown humble christian isn’t going to cut it anymore.

   http://pacificeyewitness.com/2010/06/28/pedas-partner-secretary-tuigamala-publicly-backs-jr-and-4-8million/comment-page-1/#comment-6008

   As the close links between Tuigamala and PEDA LTD, and those of the PEDA extended family heirarchy to the National party are slowly exposed, it becomes plainly obvious that Bill English should either resign or scrap his promise to handover the dosh and put it up for recontesting to the wider community.

   More likely though, he will downgrade the deliverable component of PEDA contract, in the way of real outcomes that may lead to jobs, in favour of more airy fairy Pasifika styled dataminining of people as statistics that then get referred to subcontracted agencies to up skill and train for the workplace, with ‘real’ jobs going to people like aspiring National party candidates Michael Jones and Inga Tuigamala to act as mentors and role models.

   I imagine one big circle jerk of payoffs and bullshit with, I dare say, the only visible opportunities this scheme will create for Pasifikan youth being as cannon fodder in endless photo ops for ‘smile and wave’ to meet the lads hard at work, mentoring the yoof while raising their profile in the community for an easing into the cushy lifestyle of a list MP and tame Pasifikan lapdog that loves to linger in the halls of power, but is largely ineffectual apart from token windowdressing.

   Good to see Russell Brown has decided to shine some more light on the PEDA issue on Media7 tonight. Every bit of illumination helps…

   http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,2575,hard-news-peda-who-what-where-why.sm
   • Bored 3.1

     30 June 2010 at 11:45 am

     You should post South and West Auckland news as a daily service. Goodo!
   • Pete 3.2

     30 June 2010 at 4:14 pm

     Sorry pollywog,

     Based on your questioning:

     You don’t you care about the outcomes for unemployed Pacific youth

     You clearly support the former Labour-led government, who did nothing for Pacific people

     You are foolish and do not understand the Budget allocation/appropriation process.

     For more of the same line of thinking I’ve posted above see any of the responses to the PEDA-related questions in the House (c/o the Minister of Finance, and the Minister of Pacific Island Affairs). The arrogance and autocratic slant of the current government is what gets me – remind me again, isn’t that one of the key reasons mentioned for ousting Labour in 2008?

     For example:
     Bill English:
     “the member may not be aware that they are the group most affected by the recession, and we need to take positive initiatives to keep them connected to the workplace.”

     “I might say that at the end of it, we will be very pleased to see arrangements that will help young Pacific Islanders get skills and get jobs. I am surprised that the Labour Party is so opposed to that.”

     “It was motivated by the need to stop doing what Labour did for years, which was to talk endlessly, write strategies, and hold workshops, and to turn the aspirations of the wider Pacific community into some real change for some real young people with real needs.”
4. joe90 4

   30 June 2010 at 10:14 am

   From Newsweek, The Case for Treating Drug Addicts in Prison.</a
5. ianmac 5

   30 June 2010 at 10:14 am

   Pollywog. You have to admire Bill English’s perseverance. He grinds away admitting nothing and denying everything thrown at him. He turns Questions into a dig at Labour who clearly do not want to help the poor polynesian folk.
   A bit like Bill the Burglar when caught in the house who admits nothing but claims that he broke into the house because he thought it was on fire and ” don’t you want me to save the lives of these people who would get burnt if it wasn’t for me? I am a hero!”
   • pollywog 5.1

     30 June 2010 at 11:23 am

     haha…too right ianmac !!! I’m all for helping us to help ourselves but FFS, help those of us who actually have a track record of helping us and not just themselves….eh ?

     and i can’t just let the kiwibloggers benefit from my rants so… 🙂

     What i’m struggling with, is the reluctance of mainstream media to blow this issue up for the scandal it is ?

     It started with an inoccuous mention in the budget and some initial questions by the Samoan Labour MP Su’a William Sio directed at Minister for PI affairs Georgina Te Heu Heu. She couldn’t answer cos it turns out it was Bill English who hooked the PEDA bro’s up.

     So next question time, Deputy Labour leader, Annette King asks Bill a few choice questions, to which he sputters some shit about caring for jobless Pasifikan youth *cough* bullshit*cough yeah right

     and now the Leader of the Opposition, in question time yesterday, asks the first question of Bill, in effect saying “What’s the deal ?’ and even with his boss in tow beside him for moral support Bill can’t answer what it is they bought off PEDA LTD, why them and how it’s going to be delivered ?

     WTF ???..if thats not a poltical story of cover up, intrigue and scandal then let’s throw this in the mix as well.

     In between the parliamentary sideshow, a leading Pasifikan broadcaster, Efeso Collins, has been ‘rested’ from his job for publically calling to account the process and personell involved in this shonkey piece ‘privatisation’ by stealth and cronyism. Incidentally the brother of the company awarded the funds is the boss of the radio station which rests the broadcaster hmmmm ?

     As if thats not enough, a witch hunt has been started to find the government leak who rightfully exposed this crap to the public like shooting the messenger in this case will make the whole thing go away.

     I can understand the right leaning commenters there not being able to defend the indefensible in standing up for Bill Englishs failings yet again, but surely tit’s is in the wider public’s interest to know how Bill is frivolously dishing out our dosh and thus worthy of wider mainstream media coverage ? not just the invisible underclass token media of the Pasifikan community because it’s not just a Pasifikan issue anymore.

     About time Dunkin’ Garner pulled his head out of Chris Carters arse and started looking around for the real stench of corruption and abuse of privilege and he need look no further than the PEDA LTD debacle .don’t you think ?

     soooo looking forward to tonights Media7.
6. jcuknz 6

   30 June 2010 at 10:52 am

   There is a hilarious piece by Lew over at Kiwipolitico … at least it would be if it wasn’t such a serious problem.
7. Tiger Mountain 7

   30 June 2010 at 11:01 am

   Compliments on the sidebar advertising NZ On Screen, NOS being up there with RNZ as a genuine treasure, reason enough for better broadband.
8. BLiP 8

   30 June 2010 at 11:53 am

   And for some light relief in the face of the destructions of the planet, the collapse of Western economics, and corrupt politicians . . .

   I see that criminal, brainwashing UFO cult Scientology continues to make a tragic fool of itself.

   The Australian government is conducting hearings into a proposed public benefit test for organisations seeking tax exemption. This is already done, albeit ineffectively, in New Zealand by the Charities Commission. Needless to say, Scientology in Australia is resisting the proposal and on Monday a delegation of high level OT8s, officers and lawyers fronted up to make their submission in person.

   Among the Scientologists was the head of New Zealand’s operation, Mike Ferris. The senators at the hearing were particularly interested in learning from Ferris that the imposition of a public benefit test had had no detrimental effect on the running of the cult in New Zealand, a fact which totally undermined the Australian branch of the cult’s submission. Also to come out at the hearing was the fact that the New Zealand Scientologists had an annual income of $3.6 million before the Charities Commission was set up but, a year later, this had dropped to $304,000. And why was that? Well, according to Ferris it was all due to the devaluation of the New Zealand dollar – even the senators couldn’t hold back their laughter.

   Also interesting to note that the New Zealand Scientologists have finally filed their required paperwork with the NZ Charities Commission, five years late. Amongst the tidbits of information is the fact that the average wage> for their employees is $1.60 per hour.

   Its about time the Charities Commission got off its collective fat arse and investigated this cult. It provides no public benefit whatsoever.
9. Adrian 9

   30 June 2010 at 12:22 pm

   I have just got call from an insurance rep reminding me to pay the premium on a new policy today before the 7% tax goes on all term life policies tomorrow ( existing ones have a 5 year exemption period) How the hell has this one flown under the radar? And how many other taxes have been imposed by these bastards?
10. Lucy 10

    30 June 2010 at 5:07 pm

    MMP

    Big business are going to spend up large getting rid of MMP. Why? Cause its easier to gain control of 2 parties than 5 or more. The 2 party system has become completely loyal to corporate interests in both the US and the UK with a third party now giving England another corporate lacky choice.
    I think we will be all sold the idea that we need to get rid of the Maori party threat when there isn’t one. The Nats will create the impression they are being held to ransom by the Maori party by bending over backwards to make it look like they have no choice and are being held at gunpoint.
11. The Voice of Reason 11

    30 June 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Excellent debate in the House tonight on the committee stages of the Courts (remote participation) Bill. Hone Harawira gave as good a defence of the right to face your accuser as you could ever wish to see. Not kidding, a great speech.

    The bill would allow video appearances by defendants, rather than transporting them to court. Sounds common sense in the new age of austerity, but it means a right hundreds of years old* is about to be abolished in NZ. The right to see your accuser. Actually, two rights. The right for the accuser to see you also goes.

    As Hone said, decisions will be made as if it was a video game. No body language, no whispered questions from defendant to defence lawyer, no physical connection to justice between the parties.

    Astonishing.

    *
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confrontation_Clause

    (And yes, I accidentally posted this on yesterday’s Open Mike, as well. D’oh!)
12. Don 12

    1 July 2010 at 10:43 pm

    It seems to me that good govt comes from its ability to control and regulate the activities of a country for the betterment of the people who live there in a manner that its progressive with in the ability of the country to trade and produce in an enconomy that is not going to destroy itself from external powers desires and pressures that are greater in the international market place.
    Since the seventies NZ has been in decline (ie) our currency late in that decade was 3yen to 1dollar nz by the time Muldoon went out of office we had Douglas and the treasury screammn all kinds of panic about a 16 billion debt we have to do something about it .But we never knew who or what was behind this.Basically we were conned into believing that the country was on the verge of economic collapse which was true 3 years after 1984 but in the mean time Douglas provided an escape route for the corporate criminals who pulled his strings so that their tax evasion would only be something that Bruce Jesson would be able to write about in an historical context.So as those corporates manipulated and lobbied the govt thru the mild crash of 87 they manage to destroy the power of the unions and sell up the most valuable govt bussinesses by getting the following National govt to sign off the rest of what was left .All of this proving that NZ is at the mercy of those in greater numbers.
    For the last 30 yrs we have been delt to by the US in the name of war the Brits in trade and commonwealth support the French in covert operations and now the Chinese in how we practise our trade and democracy .
    So basically we have to bargain harder to hold on to what is ours and in the fact that we have a 250 million a week debt just to run this country its about time our PM made a Muldoon like addmission to the country and own up to who is pulling his strings and if he really cares if his govt can fix it and if he can really avoid having to go to the Aussies and telling them you can buy the country so he can bugger of to Hawaii with his mate Hotchins

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