Racist attack on marae living

Written By: - Date published: 7:03 am, June 25th, 2017 - 79 comments
Categories: blogs, racism, the praiseworthy and the pitiful - Tags: , , , , , ,

Herald columnist Lizzie Marvelly

Marae are not slums. Interns are not slaves.

On Thursday morning, a Pākehā right-wing blogger said that foreign students that had been accommodated at a marae were staying in “slum accommodation”. Throughout that same day, the mainly US students who had applied to take part in an internship programme run by people associated with the Labour Party were described on social media as “slaves”.

Slaves. Living in slums.

When I read such characterisations, my eyebrows rose so high on my forehead that I was concerned they were about to revolt, liberate themselves, and disappear into my hair.

The problems with this story are numerous. The Labour Party became implicated in a scheme involving unpaid foreign interns when it has spoken out against the exploitation of immigrant students and workers. Concerns have been raised about the legality of such a scheme under both immigration and employment law. The students involved received an experience that was very different to what they expected. The list goes on. But the thinly-veiled glee behind the descriptions of slaves and slums betrays an ugly underbelly of New Zealand politics that slithers out from under a slimy rock everything three years. Come election time, there are people who will stop at nothing to land a blow on the party they most hate.

And somehow, inevitably, someone will aim a kick at Māori.

Insinuating that the conditions at a marae are “slum-like” is both deeply offensive and staggeringly privileged. It is galling to hear Awataha Marae characterised as such when the harsh reality is that historically many marae over the years fell into disrepair as Māori communities became more impoverished. Any “slum-like” conditions at marae (of which there was little substantial evidence at Awataha) were likely due to the harsh effects of colonisation and the many decades of oppressive Government policy that followed.

How’s that for a scandal?…

Read the whole piece on The Villainesse. It needed to be said.

79 comments on “Racist attack on marae living”

  1. red-blooded 1

    Yeah, those early reports and the gleeful comments arising from them were pretty dismissive about communal living and betrayed a lack of understanding about marae life that was basically based on an assumption that the pakeha way is the right way. It’s clear that this was the attitude of some of the interns, but it’s also clear that plenty of them appreciated a chance to experience something different and were happy at the marae. Let’s just hope that this viewpoint is shared in the media too.

    • North 1.1

      “Let’s just hope that this viewpoint is shared in the media too.”

      You’ll be lucky. In the hearts of many (who’ve never been near a marae in all likelihood) marae are nothing more than plastic tiki frill……..to be acknowledged and shown off as it suits them, but not for real life. That’s the way most of the snotty, up-themselves, boys/girls of cafe society media will continue chatteringly to paint things. Of course. New Zealand harbours a normalised anti-Maori racism,

      • Anne 1.1.1

        “Let’s just hope that this viewpoint is shared in the media too.”

        Huh. Q&A have just done a hatchet job on Labour. A very good interveiw with Andrew Little, the content of which was totally ignored by the panel ( Josie Pagani , John Tamihere and Michelle Boag), who proceeded to repeat all the media created crap of the past few days. And this gem from Josie Pagani:

        Labour are hypocrites because they have been accusing foreign students of being the cause of the housing crisis and now they’re bringing them here to work for them.

        I kid you not. She said this.

        Edit: and an equally good interview by the chairman of the marae in question which immediately followed Littles’ interview, was completely ignored by the same panel.

        • newsense 1.1.1.1

          This infuriates me that this foul and poisonous woman is allowed to continue to work against progressive government in New Zealand. She is on RNZ, the Herald and TVNZ.

          Corbyn was able to avoid the wise punditcon. Not sure if this will be so possible in NZ.

          • Ed 1.1.1.1.1

            Bypass the media.
            Mandelson and other Blairites were given a lot of airtime there.
            They failed.

            Switch off.
            Pagani and the corporate media are both owned by billionaires.
            Listen to social and independent media and listen to people.

            • James 1.1.1.1.1.1

              Listen to people who only agree with you – isn’t that what you mean?

              • Ed

                No, I mean ignore the opinions of billionaires who own the media. Have you been paying attention to what has been happening in the UK?

                Now a question for you.
                What’s your view about us being ranked 34 out of 41 in the OECD for child wellbeing by UNICEF?

        • Johan 1.1.1.2

          Anne,
          “Labour are hypocrites because they have been accusing foreign students of being the cause of the housing crisis and now they’re bringing them here to work for them.”
          I was under the impression that Labour was against uncontrolled immigration which as we all know, has put a heavy strain on employment, housing, hospitals, roads etc, generally our infrastructure. Why put the emphasis on foreign students? When you quote a tiny part of what was said from the TV discussion you show your dishonesty and bias. Please correct me if I am wrong.

          • Anne 1.1.1.2.1

            Go back and listen to what the woman said! She accused Labour of hypocrisy and she specifically mentioned “foreign students”. That was a distorted claim designed to create a false impression of Labour’s intentions to “slow down the immigration levels until such a time as the infrastructure of the country can be increased sufficiently to cater for them”.

            As far as I know there is nothing about foreign students in that policy, nor is there a grain of relevance with that policy and what we now know were grossly over-egged claims about an internship programme.

            Josie Pagani has a long history of attacking the left and yet she claims to be part of the left. It’s time she was called out once and for all for her hypocrisy and dishonesty.

            • Bill 1.1.1.2.1.1

              Between 15 000 and 22 000 of the proposed reduction in work visas is ones currently available to oversea students

  2. dv 2

    It was only one? intern that had a moan?

  3. Stunned mullet 3

    Lizzie Marvelly … 🙄

    • One Anonymous Bloke 3.1

      …has made some good points, and you are incapable of substantive rebuttal.

      • Psycho Milt 3.1.1

        To be fair, defending the indefensible is a tough job. Mullet’s just making the most of the very limited options available.

        • marty mars 3.1.1.1

          I thought mullet did really really well, considering it probably took him an hour or so to think of it. A great effort worth a C.

        • Stunned mullet 3.1.1.2

          It is must be so distressing for Lizzie, in between her coq au vin and Pinot, being permanently outraged on behalf of those of us less politically enlightened.

          • weka 3.1.1.2.1

            So this is a class criticism?

            • Stunned mullet 3.1.1.2.1.1

              No it’s trolling

              • weka

                You’re trolling? And you’re telling a moderator that?

                • One Anonymous Bloke

                  I think he might be forgetting Poe’s Law.

                  • weka

                    Beyond me sorry. It would be good if this didn’t turn into a derail of the thread though.

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      …without a clear indicator of the author’s intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers or viewers as a sincere expression of the parodied views…

                      I think Mullet’s comment is an attempt at parody regarding recent arguments about what constitutes trolling at The Standard, but without a smiley or some other such “indicator of intent”, it’s impossible to tell, hence Poe’s Law as quoted above.

              • One Anonymous Bloke

                Looks like you’re accusing LM of ‘virtue signalling’. Careful with those ‘alt-right’ arguments or who knows what you might end up defending.

              • Ed

                You always troll.

          • One Anonymous Bloke 3.1.1.2.2

            Yeah, you just keep giving a little bit.

            intolerance and overt attacks are on the rise

            The Human Rights Commission.

    • Ed 3.2

      Are you happy with our rating of 34 out of 41 for child wellbeing?

  4. barry 4

    ..and with the talk about “slave labour”. National had better not use volunteers in their campaign.

    • The Fairy Godmother 4.1

      The problem is they have so much money and rich donors that National could and probably does pay people to campaign for them. It’s a case of dirty politics. Making up a a fake story about a million dollar bottle of wine when National actually does it.

    • Tamati Tautuhi 4.2

      National will have highly Crosby Textor trained canvassers driving around in BMW’s

  5. saveNZ 5

    +1 “Insinuating that the conditions at a marae are “slum-like” is both deeply offensive and staggeringly privileged.”

  6. The Fairy Godmother 6

    My 17 year old daughter spent 10 days on the Spirit of New Zealand. They slept in hammocks 21 young women in one room and 21 young men in the other. They washed by jumping over the side of the boat each morning. She thinks it was a wonderful experience. She made lots of friends and would love to do it all again as a volunteer. She never complained about the substandard accommodation.

    • mary_a 6.1

      @ The Fairy Godmother (6) … oh dear, careful the Spirit of New Zealand could be labelled a slum/slave ship … (sarc).

      My son had the privilege of doing the same many years ago on the old Spirit of Adventure, an experience he fondly remembers. Hasn’t done him any harm.

    • lprent 6.2

      The marae sounds rather luxurious compared to my Army training back in the 1970s.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 6.2.1

        School camp? Forget it.

      • greywarshark 6.2.2

        These people volunteering were seemingly mostly from the USA, were up for travel, adventure and new experience and learning about different culture, and about political campaign in a country other than their own. If they had been working for some minor party other than the big two, in the USA, they would have found themselves having to get down to hard work in meagre conditions there.

        For those who had feather bed conditions at home and lived on that astral plane, anything different would be a rude shock. And the younger NZ people that I meet often seem locked into the me-first approach and can only relate to middle class strata thinking. Simple marae living would not match their expectations, and good on those who have adapted and responded positively to the caring and concern shown to them. Learning about aroha will be their biggest and lasting experience.

      • Red 6.2.3

        Yep it’s all relative, just wish the left would apply the same logic I. use of nz poverty stats,

        • One Anonymous Bloke 6.2.3.1

          NZ poverty stats are relative. Relative to the median wage, for example. Your problem is you deny them then whinge and wail when anyone notices.

  7. BM 7

    Looked like a bit of a dump from the pictures I saw.

    Slum was probably a bit harsh though, can’t say I’d be too happy to travel to the other side of the world on my own dime to work for free and have to live in those shitty conditions.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 7.1

      I guess you probably shouldn’t volunteer for it then.

      • BM 7.1.1

        Depends on how it was promoted.

        By the looks of things, the reality didn’t quite match the hype, which is why this ended up in the media.

        The thing is we’ll probably struggle to find out the truth since they were all made to sign non-disclosure statements.

        • One Anonymous Bloke 7.1.1.1

          This “ended up n the media” months ago, when Hone Harawira criticised the program. It “ended up in the media” again as a way to distract from the problem of Bill English.

          …they were all made to sign non-disclosure statements.

          1. [citation needed] and
          2. A voluntary commitment to non-disclosure is hardly surprising given that they’re working on an election campaign. The agreements don’t seem to have covered their accommodation etc, as their blog posts attest.

          Go back and find some other lines.

        • dv 7.1.1.2

          By the looks of things, the reality didn’t quite match the hype, which is why this ended up in the media.\

          Ist the BRIGHTER FUTURE BM

        • Tricledrown 7.1.1.3

          The Marae’s response in the Media was kind and supportive.
          It put an end to the beat up.

      • “I guess you probably shouldn’t volunteer for it then.”

        OAB – deadly ripost!

        • In Vino 7.1.2.1

          Riposte, s’il vous plait. But you are right. No response from BM, not that I would want the boredom of seeing one.

    • greg 7.2

      privileged individualism elitism that you represent BM would not allow you to volunteer in fact you possible consider volunteers communists reds under the bed, not people who want a better world.thousand people volunteer for labour and the greens that is something that does your head in .how dare they undermine nationals me me me message. should voluntary work be made illegal ?????

      • One Anonymous Bloke 7.2.1

        Should accepting help or donations from overseas be illegal?

        What will National do without Crosby Textor and Lord Ashcroft?

    • Gabby 7.3

      May come as a shock but that’s how the proles live when they’re not tangling themselves in the drivetrain of your 4×4.

      • +1 Legit LOL Gabby

        In all seriousness, many of us ordinary peoples actually live our daily lives in those conditions or very similar. Marae-style living for such gatherings isn’t anything odd. Guess it just proves how out-of-touch some people are.

  8. red-blooded 8

    Then you’re not likely to sign up as an intern for a political movement, BM. The experience is bigger than the photos and the motivation isn’t self-interest. I think it’s a real pity that this has been portrayed in the way it has. Having said that, Little and Kieron have done absolutely the right thing to step up and take charge of sorting out any problems that did occur.

  9. ankerawshark 9

    Glad you are able to acknowledge that slum is a bit harsh. BM.

  10. The Chairman 10

    A little background on the Awataha Marae (see the clip for more).

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2017/06/tug-of-war-over-iconic-auckland-marae.html

  11. Karen 11

    Just to put this debate in context, it should be remembered that all the rightwing commentators using the slavery line are mates of one Rodney Hide (former Act leader and coalition partner for National) who wrote an article for the NBR saying slavery wasn’t so bad:

    https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/southern-slave-owner-vs-modern-democratic-state-lf-135202

  12. swordfish 12

    Herald columnist Lizzie Marvelly

    But the thinly-veiled glee behind the descriptions of slaves and slums betrays an ugly underbelly of New Zealand politics that slithers out from under a slimy rock …

    And somehow, inevitably, someone will aim a kick at Māori …

    Insinuating that the conditions at a marae are “slum-like” is both deeply offensive and staggeringly privileged.

    ___________________________________________________________________________________

    Maori Party co-leader Marama Fox on the issue

    Labour had duped the young volunteers into coming to New Zealand … misleading them and putting them up in poor substandard accommodation

    “That is slave labour, not free labour, and they should be ashamed of themselves.”

    • marty mars 12.1

      What do YOU think?

      • swordfish 12.1.1

        I think that on Lizzie Marvelly’s terms … Maori Party co-leader Marama Fox is
        part of “an ugly underbelly of New Zealand politics”, is “slithering out from under a slimy rock”, is as bad as “a Pākehā right-wing blogger”, and by “insinuating that the conditions at a marae are “slum-like”” is “aiming a kick at Māori” and being both “deeply offensive and staggeringly privileged.”

        But enough about me … What on earth is YOUR take on things ?

        • weka 12.1.1.1

          It would be an odd reading of Marvelly’s post to think those generalisations you quote, based on observation of Pākehā responses to the issue, were aimed at Marama Fox. Including because I don’t think Fox called the marae a slum.

          But shame on Fox for her use of ‘slave labour’.

          • Richard McGrath 12.1.1.1.1

            Now is this a racist attack on Marama Fox, or were her comments about ‘slave labour’ racist, or is the generalisation about critics (of the Labour Party’s very awkward use of foreign labour) being Pakeha racist?

            • Richard McGrath 12.1.1.1.1.1

              …and would it be racist to criticise Hone Harawira for his call for the government to execute Chinese methamphetamine importers? Are drug dealers being racist by selling methamphetamine to non-Pakeha users? It’s all so confusing.

          • swordfish 12.1.1.1.2

            It would be an odd reading of Marvelly’s post ….

            No … I’m suggesting that if one objectively employs Marvelly’s criteria – Fox would deserve precisely the same critique.

            I don’t think Fox called the marae a slum.

            “Poor substandard accommodation” comes pretty close.

        • marty mars 12.1.1.2

          Thank you for your response. I still aren’t sure what you think but fair enough.

          I generally agree with lizzie but I don’t see it as Māori bashing. And I think marama went too hard too far.

          I do think Fox gave a -dismal- political response and as a Māori she should have been more careful in her language. Seems she just wanted to belittle labour.

          I haven’t heard much other Māori commentary on this which makes me think it is a nothing issue – which is what I think.

          • weka 12.1.1.2.1

            The slum/slave labour thing is a nothing issue, or Fox’s statements?

            • marty mars 12.1.1.2.1.1

              The Māori bashing by calling the accomodation slumish is a non issue imo.

              The whole intern issue is also a beat up to save English and a non issue imo.

              Fox’s statements are pathetic, wrong and offensive and just politics. Just reinforces my view that the Māori Party and Mana working together is never going to work. Not for me anyway.

  13. Stuart Munro 13

    I think there’s actually a parallel with the SNP and UK Labour, and the MP & NZ Labour.

    On policy, the SNP was closer to Corbyn’s Labour than any other party. But electorally that meant Labour could in principle wipe them out – so the SNP moved away from Labour & bagged them at every opportunity.

    That’s pretty much what the MP have been doing, trying to keep the separation that arose with the FSSB issue alive. If Maori roll voters distrust Labour, MP seats become safe.

    The MOU with Labour that ended their fratricidal competition with the Greens has thankfully ended that weakness. But the MP are facing an existential threat as their voters look at their lack of achievements. They’ll not be missing opportunities for cheap shots.

    • marty mars 13.1

      Good points.

      Bad blood and both sides get hurt by attacks the other makes on them.

      It is amazing to me how much damage the foreshore and seabed debarcle caused and still causes.

  14. Ethica 14

    I suspect most Nats have never been on a marae and have no idea about what it is like. But what a nice place for young volunteers from overseas to stay.

    I was also disappointed that Radio NZ news fell for the spin. They were quoting ‘dozens of complaints’ for about 24 hours as headline news when it was actually just one or two people and the story had racist undertones. So someone is feeding them anti-Labour information which they headlined uncritically. I expect this will happen regularly during the election campaign.

    Meanwhile Mike Hosking has open access for his right wing hate speak across multi media platforms including those state funded.

    • Anne 14.1

      I was also disappointed that Radio NZ news fell for the spin.

      I was too. Especially from John Campbell, but at least he had the grace to front a riposte from a couple of the young interns involved the following day.

  15. Richard McGrath 15

    “Come election time, there are people who will stop at nothing to land a blow on the party they most hate.”

    And you’ve only just realised this, Lizzie?

  16. The Real Matthew 16

    It’s little wonder Nationals vote had held up for 9 years.

    Lizzie “Miss Privilege” Marvelly is the personification of why mainstream voters tick National. I hope the Herald gives her more column space because her columns are the best advertisement National could ever have!

  17. peterlepaysan 18

    I agree that the whole intern marare story is a beat up by assorted interested chatterati.

    The story is, however ,not “A racist attack” on maori or marae.

    The headline to this post is misleading, furthering the descent of “racist” into a a meaningless epithet.

Links to post

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • Petrol companies promise prices will come back down once peace is restored to the Middle East
    BP, Z and Mobil all insist that petrol price hikes are temporary, “in a very literal sense.” The nation’s major petrol providers are trying to allay customer fears over prices, promising that they’ll move to lower them again “immediately” when the Middle East is returned to its formerly peaceful state. ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    9 hours ago
  • All Blacks unveil boat for Rugby World Cup 2019
    South African coach Rassie Erasmus says he has no idea what they’re going to do about the boat. In a highly anticipated press conference this afternoon, All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has finally unveiled the team’s boat for its Rugby World Cup 2019 campaign. In a press conference that went ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    10 hours ago
  • An increasingly shoddy coverup
    The Operation Burnham inquiry continued to question senior NZDF staff today, and their shoddy coverup over their knowledge of civilian casualties continue to fall apart. If you recall, first, we were asked to believe that it was all a series of "mistakes and errors": a senior officer with multiple degrees ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    13 hours ago
  • If we are to avoid making the earth uninhabitable, we need to rapidly decarbonise our civilisation, and cut emissions to zero as quickly as possible. This seems like an impossible task, but its not. Pushing hard on a few technologies and trends will let us halve emissions in a decade:Greenhouse ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    14 hours ago
  • A further attack on transparency
    The Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill (No 2) had part of its committee stage yesterday. its a generally tedious bill about the nitty-gritty of local government reorganisation. But it includes a clause making the Local Government Commission subject to the Ombudsmen Act, and hence the OIA. Great! Except of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    15 hours ago
  • Ihumātao and Treaty settlements
    Yesterday Ihumātao's mana whenua reached a consensus that they would like their land back, and asked the government to negotiate with Fletcher's for its return. The government's response? Try and undermine that consensus, while talking about how doing anything would undermine existing Treaty settlements. The first is just more bad ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    19 hours ago
  • Protecting our history
    Its Suffrage Day, the 126th anniversary of women winning the right to vote (but not stand in elections) in New Zealand. And to celebrate, the government has bought Kate Sheppard's house in Christchurch:The government has bought Kate Sheppard's former home in Christchurch for more than $4 million. The Ilam villa ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    20 hours ago
  • Climate Change: Ostracising the coal-burners
    The UN climate summit is happening in new York next week, and unlike previous years, coal-burners and denier-states are not being invited to speak:Leading economies such as Japan and Australia will not be invited to speak at next week’s crunch UN climate change summit, as their continued support for coal ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    20 hours ago
  • Jojo Tamihere Salutes Herr Goff.
    Get Back Jojo! The elation in Mayor Phil Goff’s camp may be easily imagined as they watched social media light up in indignation at challenger John Tamihere’s "Sieg Heil to that" quip. Just when JT’s notoriously right-wing, sexist and homophobic stains were beginning to fade back into his ‘colourful’ past, ...
    23 hours ago
  • Hard News: A fun but flawed weed documentary
    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    1 day ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    2 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Contempt
    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    3 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    3 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    3 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    4 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    5 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    6 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    6 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    7 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    1 week ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago

No feed items found.