Rally Against War on Iran and Iraq – Wellington noon Sat 25 Jan

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Join people from across the globe for this international day of action to show our opposition to any new US war on the people of Iran or Iraq. Our message is simple:

* No war on Iran
* No war on Iraq
* Troops out

More information on Facebook  here.

Bring your family and friends along with your own messages of peace and justice. We will be Rallying at Midland Park & aiming to march to the Ministry of Defence.

 

21 comments on “Rally Against War on Iran and Iraq – Wellington noon Sat 25 Jan ”

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  1. Gosman 1
    22 January 2020 at 2:19 pm

    Are you including Syria in this or would that not be anti-American enough?

    • McFlock 1.1
      22 January 2020 at 2:39 pm

      I think you got your flippant dismissal of global efforts for peace around the wrong way – surely you meant to suggest including Syria to the list on the grounds that only opposing new US wars on Iraq and Iran was not adequately anti-American (because everyone knows that any desire for world peace has its roots in an irrational hatred of the USA /sarc)?

    • Enough is Enough 1.2
      22 January 2020 at 2:54 pm

      It is a valid point though.

      There are armed conflicts going on all over the globe and it is disappointing to see this protest is only focused on one area.

      • McFlock 1.2.1
        22 January 2020 at 3:09 pm

        There are other armed conflicts going on.

        How many are likely to involve a request for NZ troops?

        How many are being steered towards by governments with some sensitivity to popular opinion and heading into an election year?

        This one we can do something about, as part of a global effort but also to influence our own government's participation in it.

        Anyone know if there's a Dunedin event?

        • Enough is Enough 1.2.1.1
          22 January 2020 at 3:16 pm

          How many are likely to involve a request for NZ troops?

          Again, it is disappointing that this is the criteria by which we protest against a war.

          • McFlock 1.2.1.1.1
            22 January 2020 at 3:28 pm

            The criteria is our ability to create change.

            Doing a general peace protest will be less effective across all conflicts and do nothing about this conflict.

            Protesting this conflict explicitly, right now, might actually affect it.

            • Enough is Enough 1.2.1.1.1.1
              22 January 2020 at 3:36 pm

              I doubt that very much

              But good luck any way

              • McFlock …
                22 January 2020 at 3:48 pm

                The odds of having an effect are significantly larger than just protesting war in general, no?

                I mean, why protest at all? If we can't affect something our own government does, why even bother protesting against Myanmar's treatment of the Karen, or whatever's happening in Burkina Faso?

                I skip a lot of protests, but I try to turn up to the ones that might have at least a snowball's chance in hell of doing something. If there's zero chance of achieving change, why bother?

                • Enough is Enough …
                  22 January 2020 at 3:50 pm

                  I never said don't bother – I repeat good luck

                  • McFlock …
                    22 January 2020 at 4:30 pm

                    I didn't take it as discouragement.

                    But your first comment indicated that the protest should be about something much wider, and yet your later comments indicate that you don't believe the protest will even be a consideration for our own government, let alone all the warmongering parties of the world.

                    For me, the purpose of most protests is to try and change things great or small. What other purpose can they have?

        • Gosman 1.2.1.2
          22 January 2020 at 4:47 pm

          We are unlikely to be asked to supply troops to any conflict with Iran. We didn't supply troops to the initial invasion of Iraq either. It was only after the UN became involved that we sent some troops and combat troops were sent after the Iraqi government requested them. The recent training mission was again requested by the Iraqi government. Given the fact the Iraqis were fighting a brutal Islamist terror group which had the potential to destabilise the entire region if they toppled the Iraqi State completely then providing combat trainers was actually in line with the NZ desire to keep the peace wherever possible.

  2. tony 2
    22 January 2020 at 6:17 pm

    And the Iraqi Government has invited all foreign troops to leave, surely we will respect that, unlike USA who are there for devious financial and murderous purposes.

    • In Vino 2.1
      22 January 2020 at 9:47 pm

      Quite right. It is now our patriotic duty to respect the wishes of the Iraqi and withdraw our troops, and call upon the USA to man up and do the same. sad

    • Gosman 2.2
      23 January 2020 at 8:57 am

      Incorrect. The Iraqi government has not requested all foreign troops leave.

  3. The Biggest Fish 3
    23 January 2020 at 3:34 am

    Please. The yanks are not going to evade Iran after the mess that was Iraq. We have far more important things we can spend our time rallying and supporting like ihumatao and the various climate change movements. What a shambolic waste of time this rally is.