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The current rise of populism challenges the way we think about people’s relationship to the economy.We seem to be entering an era of populism, in which leadership in a democracy is based on preferences of the population which do not seem entirely rational nor serving their longer interests. ...
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For me the liitle known ‘Il Silencio’ done in Maori was the best
Weren’t they great! Where are the current clever funny people? Why, back then we had talent but now we only have Jerry and Bill and John. Sigh.
I notice on stuff that Key’s all over this like a populist political opportunist rash. Smarmy Tory.
Truth is, Key can only dream of the talent and charisma that Sir Howard possessed. What a legend he was.
Perhaps you can try and keep politics out of it for once Mr Nome. I do recall when Sir Ed died that the prime minister played an important part, as you would expect with a major national figure. If you didn’t hate Mr Key so much you might acknowledge that part of the job of the prime minister is to express the country’s sadness when a person of Sir Howard’s stature dies rather than resenting the publicity the prime minister gets.
Mr Goff has also paid tribute to Sir Howard as have many politicians. It’s part of honouring an important person rather than trying to get limelight.
Thanks Tim, I didn’t realise the two situations were comparable as I didn’t realise that Key was a close personal friend of Sir Howard.
Oh hang on, it’s just more of your lies. Doh. Get back to work you parasite.
Key exploited the death of Ed as an opportunity to get publicity for himself and is doing the same again with Howard. Perhaps the Goober is the one who should keep politics out of grief – but your masters at Crosby/Textor know how important a tool emotions are, don’t they Timmy?
BLiP by that measure then Mr Goff is exploiting the death of Sir Howard by issuing a press release about it.
Personally I think it’s appropriate for political leaders to stand up and present a united show of sympathy on behalf of the public. It is only Mr Nome’s and your hatred for Mr Key that makes you resentful of it.
And your blind adherence to instructions from Crosby/Textor HQ to successfully trash a post in honour of Howard.
Yes BLiP I take responsibility for taking Mr Nome’s bait. Mr Nome’s comment was pointlessly political and an attack on Mr Key but I should have ignored it. So should you. It’s saddening that some people can’t let a perfectly good post celebrating the life of a fine New Zealander lie without political point scoring.
Key is anti-treaty and anti-Maori – it’s just creepy when he comes over all smarmy and disingenuous like this.
Yet again felix is showing that the sewer is not just at Mr Farrar’s place and yet another abusive comment passes in under the moderators radar.
I think that you misunderstand what we’re looking for when we moderate. Read the policy again. We don’t mind robust debate. The key word here is ‘debate’.
We’re interested in things that stall or hijack the debate – not personal incentive unless it causes problems. We moderate “abusive comment” when it has no point and liable to turn the thread into a slagging match flamewar.
Felix easily conformed within the parameters of what we allow.
Fair enough LP, they’re your rules and you will interpret them how you wish. If you think “get back to work you parasite”, or “I’m interested in your creepy obsession with coming here every day to tell lies and spread dirt on behalf of the government” or “That makes him a liar, and yes, a dishonest creep”. I’m not sure how those comments comply with your rules which say:
If you don’t think that the attacks that Felix goes into are personal then as the moderator that’s your judgement.
Try reading in context “Tim”.
If you don’t want to be called a liar – stop lying.
If you don’t want to called a govt stooge – stop running their lines every day.
If you don’t want to be called a parasite – get back to work and stop stealing from your boss.
Take some personal responsibility ffs. And grow up – you sound like a spoilt whimpering child.
Points noted felix. I won’t be responding to your gutter trolling again particularly given the moderators position on this.
Allow me to translate that:
oh pick that bottom lip off the ground tim – you come out swinging, then …. poom! you hit the floor, and get up crying to the moderators. What a joke.
“Swinging”? Tim said that the role of PM is to express the country’s sympthy when someone famous dies. He acknowledged HC’s role on Sir Ed’s funeral as “an important part, as you would expect”.
What part of that leads to “parasite” or “come out swinging”?
Do you actually disagree with any part of his post at all?
I’m guessing that ‘parasite’ is a rather witty allusion to Tims inability to do a day’s work at his job as a bank auditor because he’s too busy spinning C/T lines.
And ‘swinging’ would be ‘Perhaps you can try and keep politics out of it for once Mr Nome.’ Not the most effective blow ever thrown at Roger Nome and not even a palpable hit, but definately a swing.
GS – I would have preferred Key to keep his smarmy platitudes to himself, that’s all. Tim waltzed in with a superior finger-wagging attitude and got flattened. Poor baby.
I was going to choose here to remark on the short but bizzare kiwiblog thread on SIr Howard. Only to find this, which is longer.
As someone who has been on the email for a few prominent deaths I can confirm that it is the use and custom for political leaders to pile in (I personally was waiting for someone to use the line about the mighty totara – I believe Goff won).
Playing politics about that just shows you up for one-eyed and a bit of opportunist yourself.
[Word verification: consistency – “The discussion threads on the sad event show great CONSISTENCY]
Although that reminds that, when asked to name a favourite Sir H song, Key couldn’t.
As I say, he was obliged to, and the reporters would just keep asking otherwise.
Just a bit of a whoops, there.
Of course the PM should express his sympathy. I may not have voted for Key’s party, and probably never will, but I sure as hell would expect him to pay tribute when a prominent NZer dies. Nome, pretty pathetic that you immediately turned a post on the death of a great entertainer into a partisan political attack.
Hehehe – and what’s wrong with Tele-Steel and Fish & Ships – often a true word spoken in jest!
A real shame we’ll never hear those “happy hearts” again for it is, alas – Toitu he whenua, whatungarongaro he tangata.
I reckon Nome was being a complete cock here, irrespective of all ensuing arguments on this thread.
I suggest a policy of no comments on tributes threads, there will always be some wanker to make a point like that, left or right.
Nah, this is a political blog. I can’t think how any thread here could be actively neutral, even in tribute to a likeable kiwi such as Howard Morrison. Two of the first three comments made political points and ten minutes later the righties try to pitch their tent on the moral highground. And off we go….
Maynard – you’re being a bit precious i think. If you want absence of political commentary maybe you could start up your own apolitical tribute site? iphilatecelebrities could be a good one?
New Zealand has lost some truly great souls over the last few months…
Howard Morrison had his final curtain call and his send off became a national event. His talent as a singer was in some way eclipsed by his greater ability to cross cultural boundaries, bringing people and cultures together through his art….
… and Alistair Campbell, arguably one of New Zealand’s finest poets died….his work infused with warmth and humanity …
Farewell 3 Great Souls