Terrorist attack in New Lynn
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This year just got more incredible.
News broke this afternoon of an attack at Countdown Lynnmall where the assailant was shot and six people injured, three critically. Jacinda Ardern and Police Commissioner have just given a stand up conference and have advised that the assailant was ISIS inspired.
He was a known threat and was under monitoring. He was shot by a police tactical unit who had been following him as a matter of course.
Ardern indicated he had been under surveillance since 2016.
More to follow.
Update:
Al Noor Mosque has started a GiveALittle page for the New Lynn attack victims.
— Ben McKay (@benmackey) September 3, 2021
"All terrorists are the same regardless of their ideology whether it is white nationalism or ISIS they stand for hate and we all stand for peace and love" – Imam Gamal Foudahttps://t.co/BanfdINyoF
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- Release: Budget blunder shows Nicola Willis could cut recovery fundingIt appears Nicola Willis is about to pull the rug out from under the feet of local communities still dealing with the aftermath of last year’s severe weather, and local councils relying on funding to build back from these disasters. ...2 weeks ago
- Further environmental mismanagement on the cardsThe Government’s resource management reforms will add to the heavy and ever-growing burden this Government is loading on to our environment. ...2 weeks ago
- Release: RMA changes will be a disaster for environmentThe Government is making short-sighted changes to the Resource Management Act (RMA) that will take away environmental protection in favour of short-term profits, Labour’s environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said today. ...2 weeks ago
- Release: Labour supports urgent changes to emergency management systemLabour welcomes the release of the report into the North Island weather events and looks forward to working with the Government to ensure that New Zealand is as prepared as it can be for the next natural disaster. ...2 weeks ago
- Release: Labour calls for New Zealand to recognise PalestineThe Labour Party has called for the New Zealand Government to recognise Palestine, as a material step towards progressing the two-State solution needed to achieve a lasting peace in the region. ...3 weeks ago
- Release: Three strikes law political posturing of worst kindThe Government is bringing back a law that has little evidential backing just to look tough, Labour justice spokesperson Duncan Webb said. ...3 weeks ago
- Release: Government cuts unbelievably target child exploitation, violent extremism, ports and airpor...Some of our country’s most important work, stopping the sexual exploitation of children and violent extremism could go along with staff on the frontline at ports and airports. ...3 weeks ago
- Three strikes has failed before and will fail againResurrecting the archaic three-strikes legislation is an unwelcome return to a failed American-style approach to justice. ...3 weeks ago
- Release: Environmental protection vital, not ‘onerous’The Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill will give projects such as new coal mines a ‘get out of jail free’ card to wreak havoc on the environment, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said today. ...3 weeks ago
- Speech to the 2024 Infrastructure Symposium
Introduction Good morning. It’s a great privilege to be here at the 2024 Infrastructure Symposium. I was extremely happy when the Prime Minister asked me to be his Minister for Infrastructure. It is one of the great barriers holding the New Zealand economy back from achieving its potential. Building high ...8 hours ago - $571 million for Defence pay and projectsDefence Minister Judith Collins today announced the upcoming Budget will include new funding of $571 million for Defence Force pay and projects. “Our servicemen and women do New Zealand proud throughout the world and this funding will help ensure we retain their services and expertise as we navigate an increasingly ...13 hours ago
- Climate change – mitigating the risks and costsNew Zealand’s ability to cope with climate change will be strengthened as part of the Government’s focus to build resilience as we rebuild the economy, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. “An enduring and long-term approach is needed to provide New Zealanders and the economy with certainty as the climate ...13 hours ago
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- NZ – European Union ties more critical than everYour Excellency Ambassador Meredith, Members of the Diplomatic Corps and Ambassadors from European Union Member States, Ministerial colleagues, Members of Parliament, and other distinguished guests, Thank you everyone for joining us. Ladies and gentlemen - In diplomacy, we often speak of ‘close’ and ‘long-standing’ relations. ...2 days ago
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- Decisions on Wellington City Council’s District PlanThe Minister Responsible for RMA Reform, Chris Bishop, today released his decision on twenty recommendations referred to him by the Wellington City Council relating to its Intensification Planning Instrument, after the Council rejected those recommendations of the Independent Hearings Panel and made alternative recommendations. “Wellington notified its District Plan on ...2 days ago
- Rape Awareness Week: Government committed to action on sexual violenceRape Awareness Week (6-10 May) is an important opportunity to acknowledge the continued effort required by government and communities to ensure that all New Zealanders can live free from violence, say Ministers Karen Chhour and Louise Upston. “With 1 in 3 women and 1 in 8 men experiencing sexual violence ...2 days ago
- Smarter lunch programme feeds more, costs lessAssociate Education Minister David Seymour has today announced that the Government will be delivering a more efficient Healthy School Lunches Programme, saving taxpayers approximately $107 million a year compared to how Labour funded it, by embracing innovation and commercial expertise. “We are delivering on our commitment to treat taxpayers’ money ...2 days ago
- Report provides insights into marine recoveryNew research on the impacts of extreme weather on coastal marine habitats in Tairāwhiti and Hawke’s Bay will help fishery managers plan for and respond to any future events, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. A report released today on research by Niwa on behalf of Fisheries New Zealand ...3 days ago
- NZ to send political delegation to the PacificDeputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Winston Peters will lead a broad political delegation on a five-stop Pacific tour next week to strengthen New Zealand’s engagement with the region. The delegation will visit Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea, Vanuatu, New Caledonia, and Tuvalu. “New Zealand has deep and ...3 days ago
- Low gas production threatens energy securityThere has been a material decline in gas production according to figures released today by the Gas Industry Co. Figures released by the Gas Industry Company show that there was a 12.5 per cent reduction in gas production during 2023, and a 27.8 per cent reduction in gas production in the ...3 days ago
- Defence industry talent, commitment recognisedDefence Minister Judith Collins tonight announced the recipients of the Minister of Defence Awards of Excellence for Industry, saying they all contribute to New Zealanders’ security and wellbeing. “Congratulations to this year’s recipients, whose innovative products and services play a critical role in the delivery of New Zealand’s defence capabilities, ...3 days ago
- Speech to the Minister of Defence Awards of Excellence for IndustryWelcome to you all - it is a pleasure to be here this evening.I would like to start by thanking Greg Lowe, Chair of the New Zealand Defence Industry Advisory Council, for co-hosting this reception with me. This evening is about recognising businesses from across New Zealand and overseas who in ...3 days ago
- Speech to the Sixth Annual New Zealand Government Data SummitIt is a pleasure to be speaking to you as the Minister for Digitising Government. I would like to thank Akolade for the invitation to address this Summit, and to acknowledge the great effort you are making to grow New Zealand’s digital future. Today, we stand at the cusp of ...3 days ago
- Ceasefire agreement needed now: PetersNew Zealand is urging both Israel and Hamas to agree to an immediate ceasefire to avoid the further humanitarian catastrophe that military action in Rafah would unleash, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. “The immense suffering in Gaza cannot be allowed to worsen further. Both sides have a responsibility to ...3 days ago
- Daily school attendance data now availableA new online data dashboard released today as part of the Government’s school attendance action plan makes more timely daily attendance data available to the public and parents, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. The interactive dashboard will be updated once a week to show a national average of how ...3 days ago
- Ambassador to United States appointedForeign Minister Winston Peters has announced Rosemary Banks will be New Zealand’s next Ambassador to the United States of America. “Our relationship with the United States is crucial for New Zealand in strategic, security and economic terms,” Mr Peters says. “New Zealand and the United States have a ...4 days ago
- New permit proposed for recreational gold miningThe Government is considering creating a new tier of minerals permitting that will make it easier for hobby miners to prospect for gold. “New Zealand was built on gold, it’s in our DNA. Our gold deposits, particularly in regions such as Otago and the West Coast have always attracted fortune-hunters. ...4 days ago
- NZ and the UAE launch FTA negotiationsMinister for Trade Todd McClay today announced that New Zealand and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) will commence negotiations on a free trade agreement (FTA). Minister McClay met with his counterpart UAE Trade Minister Dr Thani bin Ahmed Al Zeyoudi in Dubai, where they announced the launch of negotiations on a ...4 days ago
- New Zealand Sign Language Week an opportunity for anyone to signNew Zealand Sign Language Week is an excellent opportunity for all Kiwis to give the language a go, Disabilities Issues Minister Louise Upston says. This week (May 6 to 12) is New Zealand Sign Language (NZSL) Week. The theme is “an Aotearoa where anyone can sign anywhere” and aims to ...4 days ago
- Next stop NASA for New Zealand studentsSix tertiary students have been selected to work on NASA projects in the US through a New Zealand Space Scholarship, Space Minister Judith Collins announced today. “This is a fantastic opportunity for these talented students. They will undertake internships at NASA’s Ames Research Center or its Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), where ...4 days ago
- $1.9 billion investment to keep NZ safe from crimeNew Zealanders will be safer because of a $1.9 billion investment in more frontline Corrections officers, more support for offenders to turn away from crime, and more prison capacity, Corrections Minister Mark Mitchell says. “Our Government said we would crack down on crime. We promised to restore law and order, ...4 days ago
- OECD reinforces need to control spendingThe OECD’s latest report on New Zealand reinforces the importance of bringing Government spending under control, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. The OECD conducts country surveys every two years to review its members’ economic policies. The 2024 New Zealand survey was presented in Wellington today by OECD Chief Economist Clare Lombardelli. ...4 days ago
- Agreement delivers Local Water Done Well for AucklandThe Government has delivered on its election promise to provide a financially sustainable model for Auckland under its Local Water Done Well plan. The plan, which has been unanimously endorsed by Auckland Council’s Governing Body, will see Aucklanders avoid the previously projected 25.8 per cent water rates increases while retaining ...5 days ago
- Gaza and the Pacific on the agenda with GermanyForeign Minister Winston Peters discussed the need for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, and enhanced cooperation in the Pacific with German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock during her first official visit to New Zealand today. "New Zealand and Germany enjoy shared interests and values, including the rule of law, democracy, respect for the international system ...6 days ago
- Decision allows for housing growth in Western Bay of PlentyThe Minister Responsible for RMA Reform, Chris Bishop today released his decision on four recommendations referred to him by the Western Bay of Plenty District Council, opening the door to housing growth in the area. The Council’s Plan Change 92 allows more homes to be built in existing and new ...1 week ago
- Speech to New Zealand China CouncilThank you, John McKinnon and the New Zealand China Council for the invitation to speak to you today. Thank you too, all members of the China Council. Your effort has played an essential role in helping to build, shape, and grow a balanced and resilient relationship between our two ...1 week ago
- Modern insurance law will protect Kiwi householdsThe Government is modernising insurance law to better protect Kiwis and provide security in the event of a disaster, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly announced today. “These reforms are long overdue. New Zealand’s insurance law is complicated and dated, some of which is more than 100 years old. ...1 week ago
- Government recommits to equal payThe coalition Government is refreshing its approach to supporting pay equity claims as time-limited funding for the Pay Equity Taskforce comes to an end, Public Service Minister Nicola Willis says. “Three years ago, the then-government introduced changes to the Equal Pay Act to support pay equity bargaining. The changes were ...1 week ago
- Transforming how our children learn to readStructured literacy will change the way New Zealand children learn to read - improving achievement and setting students up for success, Education Minister Erica Stanford says. “Being able to read and write is a fundamental life skill that too many young people are missing out on. Recent data shows that ...1 week ago
- NZ not backing down in Canada dairy disputeTrade Minister Todd McClay says Canada’s refusal to comply in full with a CPTPP trade dispute ruling in our favour over dairy trade is cynical and New Zealand has no intention of backing down. Mr McClay said he has asked for urgent legal advice in respect of our ‘next move’ ...1 week ago
- Stronger oversight for our most vulnerable childrenThe rights of our children and young people will be enhanced by changes the coalition Government will make to strengthen oversight of the Oranga Tamariki system, including restoring a single Children’s Commissioner. “The Government is committed to delivering better public services that care for our most at-risk young people and ...1 week ago
- Streamlining Building Consent ChangesThe Government is making it easier for minor changes to be made to a building consent so building a home is easier and more affordable, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “The coalition Government is focused on making it easier and cheaper to build homes so we can ...1 week ago
- Minister acknowledges passing of Sir Robert Martin (KNZM)New Zealand lost a true legend when internationally renowned disability advocate Sir Robert Martin (KNZM) passed away at his home in Whanganui last night, Disabilities Issues Minister Louise Upston says. “Our Government’s thoughts are with his wife Lynda, family and community, those he has worked with, the disability community in ...1 week ago
- Speech to New Zealand Institute of International Affairs, Parliament – Annual Lecture: Challenges ...Good evening – Before discussing the challenges and opportunities facing New Zealand’s foreign policy, we’d like to first acknowledge the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs. You have contributed to debates about New Zealand foreign policy over a long period of time, and we thank you for hosting us. ...1 week ago
- Accelerating airport security linesFrom today, passengers travelling internationally from Auckland Airport will be able to keep laptops and liquids in their carry-on bags for security screening thanks to new technology, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Creating a more efficient and seamless travel experience is important for holidaymakers and businesses, enabling faster movement through ...1 week ago
- Community hui to talk about kina barrensPeople with an interest in the health of Northland’s marine ecosystems are invited to a public meeting to discuss how to deal with kina barrens, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones will lead the discussion, which will take place on Friday, 10 May, at Awanui Hotel in ...1 week ago
- Pacific journalists are world’s ‘eyes and ears’ on climate crisis, says EU envoy
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Failing accommodation, tarmac problems and a deteriorating naval base were all laid bare before a $571 million spend-up was unveiled today. ...30 mins ago - Back in Black: Aldora’s year gets even better
Aldora Itunu is back in the Black Ferns squad after a three-year absence. The last of her 24 internationals was an underwhelming loss to France (7-29) in Castres to conclude the disastrous 2021 Northern Tour. The powerhouse prop won a Rugby World Cup in 2017 and thought she was done. ...1 hour ago - ‘Who’s actually governing this city?’The fight to control major transport policy and projects in Auckland has burst into the open again, with councillors rejecting Mayor Wayne Brown’s latest attempt to steer things more under his influence. Councillors from the left and right broke ranks on the mayor’s bid to control Auckland Transport more directly ...1 hour ago
- The return of .. Raw PoliticsExhausted by the general election campaign, horrified by the twilight zone of coalition negotiations, distracted by the silly season and waiting for the honeymoon to begin, Raw Politics has been in hibernation since October. From today, we’re back. Our weekly political video show and podcast returns for ...1 hour ago
- New Caledonia marks Armistice Day with new NZ war memorialBy Patrick Decloitre, RNZ Pacific correspondent French Pacific desk Authorities in the small town of Boulouparis have commemorated Armistice Day on May 8 with a new memorial honouring New Zealand soldiers who were stationed in New Caledonia during World War II. The ceremony took place in the township on the ...1 hour ago
- High Court dismisses key challenge to indefinite immigration detention. What does it mean?Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Sara Dehm, Senior lecturer, international migration and refugee law, University of Technology Sydney The High Court unanimously ruled today that the Australian government can keep asylum seekers in immigration detention indefinitely in cases where they do not “voluntarily” cooperate with their own ...4 hours ago
- A brief history of found footage video art – and where Macklemore’s Hind’s Hall fits inSource: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Kim Munro, Lecturer, Creative Industries and Digital Media, University of South Australia Twenty-four hours after the release of Macklemore’s pro-Palestine protest song Hind’s Hall on social media on May 7, the video had already notched up over 24 million views. In ...4 hours ago
- Transmission Gully could need new bulider – Infrastructure Commission reviewFailing to anticipate the complexity of the consenting system is being cited as the the current builder's shortcomings, an Infrastructure Commission review says. ...4 hours ago
- Proposed repeal of Oranga Tamariki Act section 7AA breaches Treaty of Waitangi – TribunalThe government is planning to repeal Treaty obligations from the Oranga Tamariki Act. ...5 hours ago
- Committee Silences Majority Of Submitters On Fast-track Bill
350 Aotearoa is calling the Environment Select Committee’s decision to allow oral submissions from just 40% of individual, unique submitters who asked to speak to the committee ‘a disgraceful blight to democracy’. ...5 hours ago - Sky-high vanity: constructing the world’s tallest buildings creates high emissionsSource: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By James Helal, Assistant Dean (Sustainability), The University of Melbourne Dubai skyline AleksandarPasaric/Pexels Since ancient times, people have built structures that reach for the skies – from the steep spires of medieval towers to the grand domes of ancient cathedrals and mosques. Today ...5 hours ago
- How can we measure the size of Australia’s illegal cannabis market – and the billions in taxes t...Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jenny Williams, Professor of Economics, The University of Melbourne Canna Obscura/Shutterstock At the end of this month, a senate inquiry by the Legal and Constitutional Affairs Legislation Committee is due to hand down its report on a bill to legalise cannabis. ...5 hours ago
- Wearable devices can now harvest our brain data. Australia needs urgent privacy reformsSource: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Edward Musole, PhD Law Student, University of New England Girts Ragelis/Shutterstock Recent trends show Australians are increasingly buying wearables such as smartwatches and fitness trackers. These electronics track our body movements or vital signs to provide data throughout the day, with ...7 hours ago
- Labour Up, Greens Down But Centre-Right Remains AheadThis is the first time since February that voters have had a net positive view of the country direction. ...7 hours ago
- RNZAF Hercules, NZDF Personnel Arrive In Papua New Guinea To Help Distribute Relief SuppliesPapua New Guinea experienced a significant earthquake on 24 March in East Sepik and there has also been recent flooding there and in surrounding provinces. ...8 hours ago
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- Week in Politics: Triumph and disaster, but no austerityAnalysis - A big announcement about Auckland's water woes was overshadowed by a chaotic press conference about prisons, Peter Wilson writes. ...8 hours ago
- Community Groups Furious That Government Silencing Hundreds In Fast-Track HearingsThe Environment Select Committee has just announced that 60 percent of individuals who asked to speak at the hearings will not be heard. This equates to almost 700 people who made individual submissions and more than 1000 more who made a form submission. ...8 hours ago
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- The plastic-heavy drinks industry is in for a shake-upThe New Zealand entrepreneur behind beauty business Ethique is gearing up to launch a new eco-venture. This is an excerpt from our weekly environmental newsletter Future Proof. Sign up here. Our thirst for a tasty bevvy is insatiable, but it comes with a hefty plastic price for the planet: 580 billion ...9 hours ago
- The Unity Books bestseller chart for the week ending May 10The only published and available best-selling indie book chart in New Zealand is the top 10 sales list recorded every week at Unity Books’ stores in High St, Auckland, and Willis St, Wellington. AUCKLAND 1 James by Percival Everett (Mantle, $38) A retelling of The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn from ...9 hours ago
- Puna calls for Pacific ‘journalistic vigilance’ in face of climate crisisBy Kamna Kumar in Suva Pacific Islands Forum Secretary-General Henry Puna stressed the importance of media freedom and its link to the climate and environmental crisis at the 2024 World Press Freedom Day event organised by the University of the South Pacific’s journalism programme. Under the theme “A Planet for ...9 hours ago
- Downsizing Of ERO Inconsistent With Govt Priority Of Lifting Student AchievementThe PSA is concerned that Government spending cuts have forced ERO to downsize at a time when student achievement is a significant challenge. ...9 hours ago
- Education Review Office set to cut 13 jobs, union saysThe Education Review Office is set to cut 13 jobs, the Public Service Association says. ...9 hours ago
- Judith Collins announces $571 million Defence spend-upAn extra half a billion dollars is going to Defence in this year's Budget for pay and equipment upgrades, the Defence Minister has announced. ...10 hours ago
- This new TVNZ anthology is Motherhood as you’ve never seen it beforeTara Ward previews a new local TV series offering alternative visions of motherhood. This is an excerpt from our weekly pop culture newsletter Rec Room. Sign up here. A woman is clambering up the side of her two-story house, clinging desperately to a drainpipe. Nearby, her child is perched on the ...11 hours ago
- LGNZ Supportive Of Cross-party Approach To Climate AdaptationLocal Government New Zealand (LGNZ) is supportive of the cross-party approach to climate adaptation announced by the Minister of Climate Change today. ...11 hours ago
- SBC And CLC Welcome Bipartisan Climate Adaptation InquiryThe Sustainable Business Council (SBC) and Climate Leaders Coalition (CLC) welcome today’s announcement from Government around a bipartisan inquiry into an enduring climate adaptation framework for New Zealand. ...11 hours ago
- Another Victory For Free Speech: DIA Abandons Proposals For Online CensorshipThe Free Speech Union welcomes the decision by the Department of Internal Affairs, and Minister Brooke Van Velden, to abandon proposals to further regulate online speech. ...11 hours ago
- Confused or playing for time? 3 possible reasons NZ is taking so long to make a call on AUKUSSource: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Robert G. Patman, Professor of International Relations, University of Otago Getty Images New Zealand governments have been actively exploring the option of joining pillar two of AUKUS for over a year now. But according to foreign minister Winston Peters, the government ...11 hours ago
- Archives NZ says it has enough space – for nowIts new building in Wellington will not be nearly big enough for all its records, and it has also run out of money to build its new storage facility in Levin. ...12 hours ago
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- How many lives is that tax cut worth?Recent research reveals the repeal of smokefree measures is not only bad for our health, but also the economy. The Government has repealed various smokefree measures to ensure it keeps collecting $1.2 billion a year in tobacco taxes, in order to pay for tax cuts already being delivered to ...12 hours ago
- How the Phoenix went from wooden spoon favourites to title contendersThe club’s surprisingly good season is built on the desire to prove a random A-League YouTuber wrong… and a few other factors. “There’s no way that Wellington Phoenix play finals this year. I can’t see it happening at all.” Those are the words of Lachlan Raeside, an Australian football content ...12 hours ago
- Ministry cuts will harm Pacific health, wellbeing – unionThe PSA is warning cuts at the Ministry for Pacific Peoples will have severe consequences for the health and wellbeing of Pasifika families. ...13 hours ago
- Power shortages: What's being done to keep the lights on?Officials are looking at better ways of choosing who gets the power during shortages amid relentlessly growing demands. ...13 hours ago
- No more bad accents, stereotypes or cringe: why the rise of multilingual TV is good news for everyon...Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By César Albarrán-Torres, Senior Lecturer, Department of Media and Communication, Swinburne University of Technology Apple TV+ As one of billions of bilingual individuals in the world, it disappoints me when a film or TV show with characters of a non-English-speaking background is ...13 hours ago
- It’s time to ditch Berhampore Golf CourseThe under-utilised course is a waste of space, and with a little political will, it could be turned into something better. For the duration of her stay in Wellington, my long-suffering cousin listened to me rant about golf courses. They’re bad for the environment: water intensive and pesticide heavy. They ...14 hours ago
- Women in rich countries are having fewer kids, or none at all. What’s going on?Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Leah Ruppanner, Professor of Sociology and Founding Director of The Future of Work Lab, Podcast at MissPerceived, The University of Melbourne Shutterstock A recent report from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows US fertility rates dropped 2% in ...14 hours ago
- We looked at over 166,000 psychiatric records. Over half showed people were admitted against their w...Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Amy Corderoy, Medical doctor and PhD candidate studying involuntary psychiatric treatment, School of Psychiatry, UNSW Sydney shop_py/Shutterstock Picture two people, both suffering from a serious mental illness requiring hospital admission. One was born in Australia, the other in Asia. Hopefully, ...14 hours ago
- Feral horses in Australia’s high country are damaging peatlands, decreasing carbon storesSource: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Sarah Treby, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, RMIT University P.j.Hickox, Shutterstock Peatlands store more carbon per square metre than any other ecosystem on Earth. These waterlogged, mossy bogs beat even dense rainforests for their ability to act as carbon reservoirs. Under the ...14 hours ago
- Andrew Tate’s extreme views about women are infiltrating Australian schools. We need a zero-tolera...Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Stephanie Wescott, Lecturer in Education, Monash University RDNE Stock Project/ Pexels , CC BY Earlier this week, two students were expelled from a Melbourne private school for their involvement in creating a spreadsheet that ranked girls using sexist and violent categories ...14 hours ago
- Yes, spending on health is growing, but new research shows we’re getting more for itSource: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By John Goss, Adjunct Associate Professor, Health Research Institute, University of Canberra Government spending on health has been growing so rapidly that a decade ago the then health minister Peter Dutton called it “unmanageable” and “unsustainable”. Health spending grew in real terms by ...14 hours ago
- Govt must regulate to smooth EVs and data centres' demand on power grids – VectorNew Zealand's largest electricity distributor is warning the country to hurry up with controls around charging electric vehicles or face unnecessary bills running into the billions. ...15 hours ago
- Could you be about to lose your power?New Zealanders have been asked to conserve energy this morning to combat a possible electricity shortfall, writes Stewart Sowman-Lund in this extract from The Bulletin. To receive The Bulletin in full each weekday, sign up here. A call to conserve power New Zealand is facing a possible electricity shortfall, with people up ...15 hours ago
- What actually are the Ockhams?Writer Rebecca K Reilly breaks down the national book awards. What are the Ockhams? The Ockham New Zealand Book Awards are our annual national awards for books published for adults, and have existed in this form since 2016. There are four categories: Fiction, Poetry, General Non-fiction and Illustrated Non-fiction. There ...18 hours ago
- Selling Wellington Airport would be colossally carelessWellington City Council should keep its 34% ownership share in Wellington International Airport, argue Unions Wellington spokespeople Finn Cordwell and Ashok Jacob. Insanity, as the saying goes, is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Wellington City Council (WCC) is yet again proposing to dispose ...18 hours ago
- Two senior publishers axed at Penguin Random House amid major restructureNew Zealand’s largest book publisher has undergone drastic changes this week, leaving its future role in local publishing uncertain. Two of the most recognisable local publishers in New Zealand are among those restructured out of Penguin Random House, it was announced this week. Head of publishing Claire Murdoch will leave ...18 hours ago
- Government looks for a better way to count MāoriSuccessive governments have tried, and failed, to count Māori. But with the return of social investment, it’s more important than ever to get good data. The post Government looks for a better way to count Māori appeared first on Newsroom. ...18 hours ago
- What will Willis’ social investment fund look like?Experts in financing social investment initiatives say New Zealand is in a prime position to tackle social issues via a social investment approach The post What will Willis’ social investment fund look like? appeared first on Newsroom. ...18 hours ago
- Three waters repeal hitting Far North hard as Auckland signs dealForced to lift rates by 33 percent to fund water infrastructure, a fifth of the Far North’s ratepayers have missed their first payment The post Three waters repeal hitting Far North hard as Auckland signs deal appeared first on Newsroom. ...18 hours ago
- All trained up and nowhere to writeIn 2021 the Public Interest Journalism Fund launched the Te Rito Journalism project, a $2.4 million initiative to boost diversity in New Zealand’s newsrooms. The initiative was in response to the decades-long shortage of Māori and Pacific journalists in the media industry. It was billed as New Zealand’s ...18 hours ago
- Daily crossword, Friday 10 MayThe post Daily crossword, Friday 10 May appeared first on Newsroom. ...18 hours ago
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Here he is.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/alleged-isis-sympathiser-found-guilty-of-possessing-objectionable-hymns-acquitted-of-video-and-knife-charges/JF6SXPT46W5YYDG5S5O6F53Y34/
I sincerely wish all those who were injured a safe and full recovery. Thanks to the police who intervened and ensured no further people were injured and to those who have been watching the POS since whenever. Thanks also to the health professionals who are caring for the injured.
A few thoughts though. Why was the POS in this case too cowardly to go to Syria and fight for ISIS. Why was the POS from Christchurch too cowardly to go to Syria and fight against ISIS. That is the best ever thing they could have done and with some luck both died there. What gives these 2 POS, and any other like them, the idea that they have the right to come to our country and commit atrocities like they have. Anyone who holds similar views to the 2 POS, do us all a favour, f off to a country where there is a war and get yourselves shot there.
Finally, Cuba has a law on it's books which allows someone to be jailed for Amenaza, loosely translated posing a menace or dangerousness to society. It has been used for political purposes in that country. The 2 POS referred to above certainly qualify in my mind for a law such as that.
He was stopped at the airport when trying to leave for Syria
'In 2017, he was arrested at the airport after telling a person at an Auckland mosque he wanted to go to Syria “to fight for Isis”.
should have had a one way trip. if he survived don't bother coming back
As if Aucklanders don't have enough on their plate. That sucks.
Ahh well McFlock, it does take our minds off how hard done by we Aucklanders have been feeling these past two weeks.
No disrespect to those directly affected – especially the innocent shoppers who found themselves in the firing line. The psychological scars at the least will be with them forever.
that's the benefit for the terrorist 🙁
Presumably martyrdom and going to heaven with all those virgins I think. .
or the "lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death"
collins and seymor will be grandstanding and blaiming Ardern for letting this happen even though he was under surveillance by tomorrow night,
It's all a big mess bwaghorn. That's what Judy said on TV tonight. A BIG MESS.
Not that I want them to follow this advice but I think they should keep right away from it. The security problem has existed during both parties rule. I can't see any good political angle here.
The obvious answer is the POLICE WATCHING him 'let it happen', not the PM
“The man police shot dead in an Auckland supermarket today after stabbing several shoppers is a known Isis sympathiser whom police had previously arrested for allegedly planning a "lone wolf" knife attack.
He had only recently been released from prison and was under constant surveillance from police, including an armed tactical team, and national security agencies.”
Why had he not been deported from NZ before now.
Probably not deported from NZ because of his citizenship status. Should citizenship laws/rules be re-written?
Pete in one,YES.
If he's a NZ citizen, he can't be deported. If he's a Sri Lankan citizen with permanent residency, it's quite likely unsafe to deport him because the Sri Lankan govt doesn't fuck around when it comes to Muslim terrorists.
All reports say hes a Sri Lankan national who arrived in 2011.
Hes been under investigation or tried since around 2016 or so. No way would he have been given citizenship, doubtfull even had residency.
Just searched the Immigration and Protection Tribunal decisions database for Sri Lankan nationals.
The there seems to be a number of decisions in the right time frame that are supressed due to appeals.
So it's likely the second one – not safe to deport him back to Sri Lanka. I can't imagine the answer to the question could be "It didn't occur to anyone to try and deport him," or "they couldn't be arsed," or "they wanted to give him a fighting chance to kill NZers."
Ummm the guys dead, (cant say I'll lose sleep) how could sending him back been worse, ?
Because it would set a precedent and others could be sent "back" and be freer to cause harm on a global scale because they aren't monitored at home and those might not, in fact, cause any harm here? It's a vexed issue.
The law deals with principles, not tactical contingencies. Either it's OK to deport someone to a country that will mistreat them, or it isn't. Either it's OK to deport a known extremist to a country that won't monitor his activities, or it isn't. There is no "Yeah, but this guy…"
Mistreat him ?
If he was doing what he did here, openly following a terrorist entity, talking about attacking non believers with knives ( which he has in possesion) then surely the laws in Sri Lanka could be used against him.
He would have had to face the consequences of his actions and threats and if thats in jail or worse ( capital punishment) in Sri Lanka so be it.
I didn't mean he'd be mistreated, I meant he might be free to create greater harm in a country that doesn't monitor as closely as we do. He'd, for example, be able to associate with other like-minded individuals, have access to networks not available here etc.
In other words, tossing him out of NZ because he’s a threat to us, might cause far greater harm somewhere else on the planet (and New Zealanders live in other parts of the world, as do other humans.
This would be Sri Lanka…I doubt there could be greater harm from one deportee compared to what they have been through for a long time.
We wouldnt be sending him to Luxembourg.
Yes, mistreat him. In this instance, the Sri Lankan govt is known to have been involved in torture, arbitrary imprisonment and extrajudicial executions of opponents. As mentioned above, it's either OK to deport someone to a country that will mistreat them, or it isn't. As far as I'm aware, NZ govt is in the "isn't" camp.
Stop the hand wringing,Milt.So what about other countrys, they should be able to deal with as they see fit,is OK that our Police force have to go around using deadly force because of that bad acters from other Gov't.
NZ citizens can be deported and 15 were deported between 2012 and 2019.
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It is hard for a person to lose citizenship once they have it. An adult who becomes a citizen in another country can choose to give up New Zealand citizenship. There is a formal process to control how this step is taken. Otherwise, the Minister can remove a person's citizenship only if the Minister is satisfied that:
https://oag.parliament.nz/2013/citizenship/part3.htm
Can't deport him, can't send him to jail but he is known to the PM and has 4 armed officers following him. Labour don't want 501 legislation and want to reduce the prison population.
what a f up for the government. Election please
DNFTT
A village idiot will be along shortly to do that..
… want to reduce the prison population.
Anyone with a conscience thinks that the prison population should be drastically reduced. With the eventual aim, of course, of abolishing that wretched and brutalising institution.
what a f up for the government.
The government knew he was going to attack people this afternoon, did it? From where did you obtain that intelligence?
Election please
I think that's the last thing the beleaguered Judith Collins and her Nasty Party colleagues would want right now.
"Five years later, in 2016 he was warned by the police after posting material on the internet.
'In 2017, he was arrested at the airport after telling a person at an Auckland mosque he wanted to go to Syria'
'In 2018, he admitted charges of distributing material and the offensive weapon charge was dropped.
Police wanted to charge him with engaging in a terrorist act by “planning or otherwise preparing to cause the death of, or serious bodily injury to one or more persons”.
Justice Downs questioned whether planning or preparing an attack constituted a terrorist act..
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300399197/why-supermarket-terror-attacker-wasnt-charged-under-terror-laws-despite-being-on-watchlist
Stupid twat Dogma. He spent 6 years living under the Key government and 4 years under the current government. He went on the terror watch list a year or two before Ardern became PM so… if anyone is to blame its the Nat. Govt.
In reality neither are to blame but obviously reality is something you don't have the grey matter to comprehend.
John Key would have been made aware of this as well 2016.
Terrorist my arse
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300316980/dunedin-supermarket-stabbing-accused-keeps-name-suppression-for-now
The Dunedin guy is well known & has mental issues. Stop conflating, show some respect for the victims.
Conflating my arse…both have mental health issues
What's your point here Pat. Better to say it out loud.
Already have…and if it aint plain enough for you then youre thick
[Ban until the morning to cool off. – weka]
I suspect that there are a number of political staffers working overtime trying to work out how to present views. I get the feeling the Crown's attempt to lift suppression orders is causing some nervousness. Meanwhile on twitter a whole lot of limited follower accounts with numbers at the end of their names have appeared.
Kiwiblog ….
Quick to judge and blame the gun buybacks ‘not working’
Complete fools
I just had a look. Fark …
Generally not the greatest of thinkers at kiwiblog. Like someone would be wandering Lynnmall with a semiautomatic weapon or a pump action shotgun or a pistol in the middle of a west Auckland shopping mall and could use it to defend anyone.
The Avondale police or the AOS would rightly consider any such ‘hero’ to be a problem and probably shoot them, or if they survived – charge them, convict them, and throw them in jail.
As group they really are as thick as two short planks at Kiwiblog. The people who exhibit actual logic are few and far between
". Like someone would be wandering Lynnmall with a semiautomatic weapon or a pump action shotgun or a pistol in the middle of a west Auckland shopping mall and could use it to defend anyone."
The picture at the top of this post shows just such a person. In fact he appears to be carrying two of the three weapons you mention. Are you saying that his actions are futile.
It shows someone who just happened to be wandering around Lynnmall with those weapons? Are you sure about that?
"who just happened to be wandering around". Am I sure of that? Of course not. I never made the statement though did I? Someone else did say something similar but it wasn't me. Stop trying to put words in my mouth.
Nobody did that. But folks seem to have foolishly assumed that the words that come out of your computer have some relevance to the words you quote at the beginning of your comment.
You OK Alwyn ? Being blind to context and all that.
Iprent You can be a nasty bastard sometimes,not a daily blog reader. with all due respect,Al
What does Kiwiblog have to do with The Daily Blog? Nothing I hope.
I seldom read the daily blog since Bomber asked me to remove it from the Feeds list years ago. It tended to be repetitive and rather boring with some of the authors (bomber in particular). I used to scan the listing and mostly just read the authors whose opinions were worth thinking about. I'd also sample the repetitive authors sometimes to see if I was still correctly guessing what they'd say. Once the listing was gone, then there wasn't an easy way to scan for content worth perusing with my limited time.
Same problem underlying problems with kiwiblog. It was too easy to guess what David Farrar would say next. Too easy to predict the general structure of any 'debate'. About the only thing of interest was predicting how long it would be before any well-argued contrarian opinions would get hidden. I don't think I have looked at KB in the last 6 months.
Incidentally I do the same thing with TV. Guessing the arc of a storyline from early on in a movie or TV series and then matching it with the book or other media that the script-writers plagiarised it from.
It isn't so much that I'm nasty (although I get quite irritated with repetitive bullshit), it is that I don't really have any time nor inclination to expand out other peoples assertions enough to point to the completely obvious flaws in their well-known arguments in a nice way.
Which is what my comment did in a sufficient and irritated way.
lprent Thanks for the reply,yes wrong blog(mind you me neither),and thanks again for clarification,you are doing good keeping this site up and running,cheers Al
The 2020 annual report of the Security Intelligence Service (SIS) said: "During the past year, between 30 and 50 individuals have been under active investigation by the NZSIS in relation to violent extremism at any one time."
Every one of these, unless they were born in NZ , should be deported back to wherever they came from.
It is clear we are starting to reap what we have sown” with the kind of immigration we opened up/allowed over the last more than 15 years.
Obviously we haven't imported a very good class of people, who background checks these people b4 they come into the country ?
What makes you think that these extremists under surveillance are all immigrants? The only thing that these extremists, share is that they hold extremist views and are so obsessive and fanatical that they are out of touch with reality.
Any person who think's it a great idea to go to a supermarket on a Friday afternoon, grab a knife and start stabbing people at random has mental problems. You can cloak that in ideology, that's fine, but that is not the act of a mentally well person. The humanity of the person has been poisoned. Brevik the same. What's his name in CHCH likewise. Ad Infinitum.
More of a cold blooded killer , than someone who fits into the mental health spectrum.
I think you are using the term too loosely…. and wrongly implicating an 'illness' at the core of his beliefs.
Probably. It angers me. The older I get the more difficultly I have handling mans inhumanity to man.
More ad nauseum….
Dunno about that one – there's probably a line between being unwell to the point it degrades your ability to know whether an action is right or wrong, and a deep political belief or hatred that skews or overrules your ethical calculations.
That having been said, being personally followed constantly by armed police for 4 or 5 years, even in L4 when they'd stick out like a sore thumb? That wouldn't help anyone's noggin.
Only been followed since his recent release from custody, by my read.
fair enough – still early days in the information. Some reports were even saying the first people he attacked were the officers following him.
aj they may have a mental problem, but the law has a really tight definition around criminal acts and mental illness.
If a defendent was so out of touch with reality at the time of the crime i.e. psychotic and believing their delusions or the voices in their head telling them to kill people, then their lawyer will plead not guitly by reason of insanity. Usually when this is the case and it is a geniune plea the crown lawyers agree and that person is sentenced to a secure mental health facility.
Otherwise, even if you have mental health problems, if you are not out of touch with reality, then you are responsibile for your actions.
The guy in Dunedin and the Isis supporter today are likely to have a very different profile. I don't know a lot about the psychology of terrorists. but there will be a unique way of conceptualizing them, in part to help us understand how come they become like this
Years (post 2001, but before 2010) ago at a foreign policy thinkfest I sat through some yank talking about a new word he'd developed to describe "extremist" beliefs (guess which religion he fixated on) as a pseudo-mental disorder. The word was Greek and everything lol.
To me it seemed like a large amount of effort just to avoid considering their actual motivations. Not sure any of the people in the room saw any useful application for it, either.
Arh yes….people and their psychological hypothesis that have not be tested…..
I doubt that pseudo mental disorder is in DSM 5, even as a disorder that warrents further. study.
But I know very little about the psychological profiles of terrorists. I imagine they have excessively rigid all or nothing thinking, lack of empathy, and intense loyalty to a political cause. With white supremiscists hard to imagine there isn't a good deal of narcissim "thinks they should only associate with "special people" and either idealizes or devalues others………but I am only speculating here.
Narcissism and psychopathy are hall-marks of terrorists be they of the right or the left.
For some, sure – the Norwegian dick comes to mind as being narcissistic and insecure, apparently he'd had a fair bit of plastic surgery and was incredibly image conscious.
But terrorism is a big field – crusaders, screwed up teens, mercenaries, people avenging family or personal trauma, and so on. Some are pretty sad characters.
The largest change in recent years, I suspect, is that a lot of the support pyramid is distributed online rather than personal contact. And that also involves the preparation of individuals.
Basically, there's a pyramid model of terrorism, where the actual terrorists are the pointy top, immediate logistics, commanders, training etc are just below, then there's less direct support in the community (money, resources, propaganda, recruitment to non-terrorist but allied political orgs), and then finally just the community perception – are these good guys or bad guys. So someone in the community might be identified as sympathetic, asked to help in a little way, and then there's a program of escalation, rewards for achievement, reinforcement that they're doing the right thing, and so on right up to when the recruit is at the pointiest end of the pyramid.
Nowadays a lot of the immaterial support comes online, so isolation helps escalate the motivations for actual murder.
And then there are the precipitating events that help motivate someone to put their fantasies into action – close people dying, redundancy/stress, that sort of thing.
Only 2-5% of people are actually able to kill without conscience, but the other bit of that is that almost anyone can be built up to kill with the right preparation and methodical psychological conditioning (in all senses of the word).
Why at that moment did he grab a knife at the supermarket ? Something he saw, heard, smelt triggered it, some remembered insult or snub or fear or grief, perhaps inherited. Was he acting reflexively or with the will to defend himself ? If the police had disabled him and preserved his life and he had lived to testify I might have got answers to at least some of my questions. Where do I look for answers now ?
I think Grafton Gully there is likely a well formuated body of literature on terrorists.
Yes. His ideation was centered on knives and murdering people. yes really.
He was reported as telling a jury…Take one knife off me and Ill get 5 more.
I don't doubt that he had homicidal ideation ghost. As I said I am not an expert in terrorists. But it sounds like he had homicidal ideation for sometime
Or he's just an evil scumbag who loves violence – – no need to stigmatise mental illness.
I'd say that a judge will be working tomorrow to hear appeals from the Government and the MSM.
Look for an amendment to the name suppression part of the Criminal Procedure Act 2011 sometime in the future.
Can refugees be deported?
Justice Downs when ruling against the Supression of Terrorism Act being used had a thought experiment about possibly 'a shopping mall knife attack in broad daylight.'
I read some very unflattering opinions online about Justice Downs who was appointed in 2016. Cant possibly repeat them here even though they are legally focused
This is what the Judge was reported as saying when this person couldnt be charged with planning an attack
‘He said he could not know what the planned “knife attack” scenario put forward by the Crown actually entailed, and therefore he could not evaluate it.
“Is it, for example, an attack in broad daylight in a busy shopping centre while the defendant repeatedly yells support for Islamic State? Or an attack under cover of darkness with no witnesses in which the defendant says nothing?”
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300399197/why-auckland-terror-attacker-wasnt-charged-under-terror-laws-despite-being-on-watchlist
Seems like scenario proposed was eventually real.
Its strange as the Terrorism Suppression Act does have a section on planning an attack, which is treated as it had occured.
Either the Police prosecutors need to appeal this kind of case faster, or New Zealand is going to need a dedicated court for anything with terror-related charges.
The Act spells out that planning is covered. The Judge seems to have decided that the case for planning wasnt 'specific' enough. ie day or night , location and methods.
All the better to appeal.
Yes. look how many times the Crown appealed the Kim Dotcom decisions even when it was a scintilla favourable to him- and he did the same when it came against him
Thats what the Court of Appeal is for creating a 'coat from cloth' in the way the bare words are interpreted. Especially when the clause is specifically about planning and preparation. The kitchen situation comes to mind.
Obviously not a lateral thinker, he wanted specifics ?
Yes. The judges comments were that the prosecution hadnt shown whether the defendant would attack 'under the cover of darkness' or 'in broad daylight in a shopping centre' [Yes he did say THAT]
Guess what. If people have or could possibly die what purpose does it achieve wheter its day or night.
Its the most absurd 'black letter lawyering' that you could imagine. This wasnt some ordinary person, they already would have had a preponderance of evidence of what his intentions would be. He even said so…'the 5 knives'
If the sentencing was absurd, why would govt decide the law needed changing?
Wasnt the sentencing, as the trial for the planning a terrorist attack didnt happen or charges dismissed ( not sure which)
The High Court judge ruled that the evidence from prosecution for his plan wasnt detailed enough. Wasnt helped by the case being heard by a very bright but pompous judge.
S25 of Terrorism Supression Act seems ridicuously brief compared to the convoluted legalese of other parts.
Yet S25 was the core of 'committing , planning, implementing' a terrorist act.
Where are you getting these impressions of the judge's character?
Section 25 defines "terrorist act" but you have to work through the offence defining sections to see what the elements of each offence is.
Another weak young man with an inflated sense of his own importance, I am guessing.
But he's a judge, he can't be that young.
…presumably you know I wasn't referring to the judge!
Yep – that would be Gabby
Most judges are not very worldly and are mainly ex Lawyers who are a different breed and a law unto themselves.
So the Prime Minister said that this attacked was Isis-inspired.
And also that the state had utilised every legal and surveillance power available to us to keep people safe from this individual.
"Last year, the Crown had sought to prosecute S under the Terrorism Suppression Act 2002, but a High Court judge ruled that preparing a terrorist attack was not in itself an offence under the legislation.
Neither defences give any comfort.
“On May 26 this year, he was found guilty by a jury of possessing propaganda-style material supportive of Islamic State.
He was acquitted on other charges of possessing a graphic video depicting a prisoner being decapitated and possession of an offensive weapon."
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-mall-terrorist-attack-isis-sympathiser-had-been-arrested-for-allegedly-planning-lone-wolf-knife-attack/YJMR4NTEU5Q6DO7NSZP7BGIKDM/
There must seriously be a Ministerial Inquiry into this.
If after the re-tooling and re-funding of the intelligence services and the focus on extremists we apparently have, why is it possible for them to harm us so much?
I am pleased that our Police were armed quick enough to shoot him.
But with the Afghan withdrawal and the 9/11 anniversary occurring so close now, we have both 15 March and early September to be super-vigilant for.
I expect, with COVID on top of that, we are going to have security screens for trains and malls. More and more freedoms lost to protect from a tiny few.
Can the Prime Minister not simply name and shame that super-risky few in New Zealand? I would prefer that their human rights were decreased rather than mine are continually eroded.
If the High Court can't protect us with prosecution of planned attack, I want to see the Police take this to the Supreme Court.
We don't deserve a diminished society.
Society/civilization has built-in, self-diminishment, doesn't it? We are crammed together, under-pressure, pointlessly-striving, spiritually-depleted, politically-manipulated, culturally-prejudiced and as a result, have to impose or live under a raft of restrictions on our behaviour. It's part & parcel of being civilised.
Exactly the opposite. We gathered together first in Gobekle Tepe to celebrate the cosmos 11,000 years ago and put walls up in Jericho two thousand years later to protect our rights from chaos and war.
We flourish through organisation, co-operation, and political organisation.
Maybe just wind it back a bit with the all-encompassing National Greographic abstract nouns about civilisation, and stick to the improvements we need to make right here and rightnow.
Well, we could foster cooperation, rather than competition (for a start).
How on earth do you think cities run?
I was alluding to the mechanics of the discussion here 🙂
I think cities run on complex, untidy, sometime decrepit lines like a poorly-constructed coral reef without the elegance and with a great deal of waste and loss of non-human life. There is a semblance of cooperation (stop at the red light!) and a mess of "cheats" (drive through if it's late at night and no one's about). Cities "run" but run badly and aren't sustainable in the long term.
"What man has done to man has no limit. He has tortured him; he has burned him; he has killed him; he has exploited him in every possible way—religious, political and economic. This has been the story of man against man; the clever exploit the stupid, the ignorant. All philosophies are intellectual and therefore not whole. These philosophies have enslaved man. They have invented concepts of what society should be and sacrificed man to their concepts; the ideals of the so-called thinkers have dehumanized man. Exploitation of another man or woman seems to be the way of our daily life. We use each other, and each one accepts this. Out of this peculiar relationship, dependence arises with all the misery, confusion and agony that is inherent in dependence. Man has been both inwardly and outwardly so treacherous to himself and to others. How can there be love in these circumstances?" —Krishnamurti
Schopenhauer was worse.
Not sure how the fatalists are really helping anything here.
Probably not helping, but teasing out the core reasons, perhaps.
Have you read of this experiment?
The "Universe 25" experiment is one of the most terrifying experiments in the history of science, which, through the behavior of a colony of mice, is an attempt by scientists to explain human societies. The idea of "Universe 25" Came from the American scientist John Calhoun, who created an "ideal world" in which hundreds of mice would live and reproduce. More specifically, Calhoun built the so-called "Paradise of Mice", a specially designed space where rodents had Abundance of food and water, as well as a large living space. In the beginning, he placed four pairs of mice that in a short time began to reproduce, resulting in their population growing rapidly. However, after 315 days their reproduction began to decrease significantly. When the number of rodents reached 600, a hierarchy was formed between them and then the so-called "wretches" appeared. The larger rodents began to attack the group, with the result that many males begin to "collapse" psychologically. As a result, the females did not protect themselves and in turn became aggressive towards their young. As time went on, the females showed more and more aggressive behavior, isolation elements and lack of reproductive mood. There was a low birth rate and, at the same time, an increase in mortality in younger rodents. Then, a new class of male rodents appeared, the so-called "beautiful mice". They refused to mate with the females or to "fight" for their space. All they cared about was food and sleep. At one point, "beautiful males" and "isolated females" made up the majority of the population. As time went on, juvenile mortality reached 100% and reproduction reached zero. Among the endangered mice, homosexuality was observed and, at the same time, cannibalism increased, despite the fact that there was plenty of food. Two years after the start of the experiment, the last baby of the colony was born. By 1973, he had killed the last mouse in the Universe 25. John Calhoun repeated the same experiment 25 more times, and each time the result was the same.
Calhoun's scientific work has been used as a model for interpreting social collapse, and his research serves as a focal point for the study of urban sociology.
~Dutch Medicine Man~
That's all from me.
Nope, a 1970s cannabilistic mouse experiment isn't helping either.
This post is discussing a terrorist attack just 5 kms from me.
Take mouse experiment bullshit off to Open Mike.
These philosophies have enslaved man.
They were less oppressive in general, than the sophistries that preceded them, and the postmodernism that came after them.
Surely he could have been held under the Mental Health Act as a Nut Job ?
The problem for the government is that we are now told that there is legislation pending that might have given the authorities the power to have (probably) prevented this incident but that has been moving very slowly through its various processes.
This is in stark contrast to the speed in which the very necessary guns laws were brought after the Christchurch Mosque attacks.
The existing legislation does cover planning a terrorist attack.
'(a)planning or other preparations to carry out the act, whether it is actually carried out or not:'
It was a very strange decision from an odd judge. It was clear to 'other preparations' covers a wider area than detailed plans or a specific time or day or method
From what I have heard in media from legal experts so far, isn't the fundamental issue that this would take our law into what people are thinking rather than doing (including speech acts)? I can understand judges wanting clarity from government about the boundaries of that change.
And government picking it up as a law change suggests validity.
The judges ruling led to that, he had a very narrow view on preparations. he was googling stuff , as they do.
If a judge was off the mark on something like that, I'd expect Crown Law or the Solicitor-General to appeal. If instead it is picked up by government as a required law change..
There is now a separate post about the legal aspects: https://thestandard.org.nz/the-politics-of-the-new-lynn-attack/
The law is a very grey area and subject to legal interpretation by a Judge, he obviously saw no risk to the community and ruled accordingly.
[Why are you using two different user names under the same Post? Looking at your history here it appears that this is a habit of yours, a bad habit, because it is deceptive to others. You seem to have had a few run-ins with Moderation here.
Please explain.
Please stick to one user name only when you comment here, from now on, thanks – Incognito]
See my Moderation note @ 12:51 pm.
Apologise sometimes forget which site I am on, have been inactive for a few years. Sincere apologies.
As a former MP for New Lynn who loves it still, I just want to register my shock and sadness that this has happened, my utter abhorrence of the cowardly attack on unarmed shoppers, and my deep sympathies to those injured and their familes.
As The Standard contributors are rightly doing in this thread, we will all need to consider the adequacy and operation of our anti terrorism laws, balanced with protection of the civil liberites that are the foundation of our beautiful and diverse community.
One thing is for sure – the lowlife who committed this act was rightly stopped by police before he could harm others, and we all wish the intervention could have saved those who were hurt.
My heart goes out to the New Lynn communitty, to Sri Lankan Kiwis who in no way share any responsibility for this, and especially for the vicitms and their families. Arohanui te whanau.
Thank-you David. That is obviously a very heartfelt contribution. May we see more of them from time to time at this site.
Thanks Anne I will look to drop un more oftne. Miss you guys!
Thanks David well said.
Aye arohanui te whanau.
Cheers man.
100% David.
The Herald, unusually , looks back in its archives for some relevant background which doesnt put Collins in a good light.. Could it again call into question her judgement.
When asked about this on RNZ.
‘Asked about her comments in 2013 about having no substantial or urgent concerns with New Zealand’s counter terrorism legislation, she said it was “really unfair” to ask her about decisions from eight years ago.’
So unfair is it?
Just a point of clarification.
Did the place take 60 secs to arrive, or was it over in 60 sec?
The head of police said it took the officers in the store 60 seconds after the attack started to confront and shoot the terrorist.
Thanks.
Now its changed to be longer …maybe 90 sec from the first stabbing to the undercover police moving from outside the entrance where they were waiting.
Now 150 seconds. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-mall-terrorist-attack-terrorists-history-in-courts-jail-judge-declined-gps-tracking-police-officers-waited-at-supermarket-entrance-up-to-two-and-a-half-minutes-between-first-of-7-stabbings-fatal-shooting/W6GC2GZQO6LZU33JNFMEYYPEFU/
Obviously the Police realized he was a high risk individual to the community, the Judiciary thought otherwise.
Got any links to support that claim?
Contains this afternoon's briefing from the PM (9m20 clip): https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/450756/new-lynn-terror-attack-update-every-legal-avenue-was-tried
Various short RNZ interviews in here: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/450750/new-zealand-counter-terrorism-legislation-outdated-law-experts