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The current rise of populism challenges the way we think about peopleâs relationship to the economy.We seem to be entering an era of populism, in which leadership in a democracy is based on preferences of the population which do not seem entirely rational nor serving their longer interests. ...
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This does something no one on the true left has done to date here. It actually points out the shortcomings of the current right wing parties.
Last election we had “friendly and fluffy” from the Greens but no genuine commentary on “why” they were worth voting for. No real criticism of the sleazy far right creeps in National and their slippery right leaning pals in Labour. The net result few voted Green.
Surely its time to stop being polite. Time to expose the greed, corruption, selfishness, economic imperialism and environmental damage. Good job UK Greens. Environmentalism and socialism with knuckledusters. About time.
And when the NZ GP runs campaigns criticising NACT they get accused of negative campaigning and supposedly lose votes.
Typical green brown wash
The Greens are as much of the problem as the rest of them.
Not forgetting ‘our lot’ voted in the ‘human friendly’ environment destroying growth based scam that is Kiwi Saver.
They are ALL part of the bullshit, if any of them truly offered alternatives no one would vote for them.
okay – i may regret asking this, but what are the non growth-based ‘alternatives’ that you think will make life better for all human beings, and save us from from the dastardly evils of kiwi saver and the Greens?
@ 404 ppm CO2 it is all academic now, but a great starting point would be say 80% unemployment, and zero private car use ?
You’re right. No one would vote for that.
In 2017 – in my view – political parties should campaign HARD for the PARTY vote – but encourage STRATEGIC voting in electorates, learning from the Northland by-election result.
The days of ‘two ticks’ have now gone – in my view ….
Penny Bright
http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz
+100 Penny….you would have thought the penny would have dropped by now …unfortunately the Labour Party is still in First- Past- the- Post mode
The UK Greens want to ban the Grand National horse race. Anyone here mad enough to think this is a good idea.
Yeah, I know. Horses are such majestic creatures we should care less about injuries and death, so long as we humans can see them run and make a bit of money on the side.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equine_fatalities_in_the_Grand_National
Anyways, what was that about “a vote you don’t believe in”?
Personally, keep the race but limit the gambling on the principle that money should be acquired through honest work. Gambling should be frowned on in view of the adverse social consequences.
I presume the Greens objection is based on the treatment of horses.
John Woolman, the Quaker slavery abolitionist, refused to ride in public carriages for transport as the horses were so abused.
Instead, he walked around the country. By riding on these cross country carriages he felt he was condoning the mistreatment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Woolman
Do we do the same by gambling on horses? Should we as humans care about other animals?
How far do we take our personal views on such things as slavery, exploitation and maltreatment? It’s good to have our values questioned.
I’ve changed my mind after reading the links.
Genuine thanks for the question, fisiani . Yes, I’m mad enough. In both senses of the word.
What’s not to like about an event where up to 40 young animals at a time are deliberately hurt, and some will die in mess of tangled limbs, fractured bones and broken spines, to give people like yourself the pleasure of cracking a fat over their pain and panic.
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Can you define deliberately? Are you trying to be serious?
Do you think horses are accidentally whipped?.
Do you think the jockey whip hurts the horse? If so do you want to ban jockey’s whips in all horse races?
Having spent most of my life around horses I know whipping hurts the animal and yes, and as it should be, whipping will be banned sooner rather than later.
Fisianil.
Failing and flaying to win an argument.
I know several people who rescue race horses.
The Industry is only interested in winners any horse which doesn’t make the grade is turned into dogtucker ,glue or put out to pasture where the horse is neglected underfed and abused.
Its covered up by the industry to sanitize the race industry.
“Can you define deliberately? Are you trying to be serious?”
If you hold an event where horses get maimed and crippled and killed,
and then you hold the same event again and horses get maimed and crippled and killed again,
and you keep doing it over and over and over, and every time you do it horses get maimed and crippled and killed…
…well at best, to misquote Oscar Wilde, it begins to look like carelessness.
Anyone mad enough to think killing and maiming horses for the amusement of humans is a good idea?
http://www.animal-rights-action.com/grand-national-horse-race.html
Because I don’t gamble and horse racing never interested me from the age of three, I never knew the extent of the damage done to horses in the Grand National. Thanks for the link, felix. Truly shocking to learn the facts.
Fisianil you have made a dogs breakfast of your argument!
Yes …the sooner the better and we’re not alone.
Among this race is amongst the most barbaric animal events in the world.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/570665/Grand-National-ban-Aintree-deaths-horse-racing-review-Green-Party
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/04/care-horses-boycott-grand-national
and even the telegraph
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100210488/so-what-if-a-few-horses-die-in-the-grand-national-it-is-our-pleasure-not-their-wellbeing-that-is-important/
Great video! I don’t know much about the UK election campaign or the UK GP, but love the courage and honesty in that broadcast. Funny too.
First time I’ve seen a out and out attack on Austerity caused by failed Neo-liberal polices – and like Weka said – Funny too.
Well it’s been 30 + years of Austerity. The lie of the booms of the later part of the 20th century and the idea their has not been to many rosy days in the 21st – are slowly dawning on people.
Just ask friends and family – how much personal debt they are in?
Go on – I dare ya…
How much do we pay in rates, paying rent includes rates folks, and how many less services are we getting for that?
How long are waiting lists?
How long do you have to wait on the phone to talk to a government department?
How is it, that we have austerity in this country and no one is willing to admit it?
In a user pays environment, admissions might be ten a penny. Shame about the lack of pennies then. đ
Are they saying there’s buggerall difference between Labour and the Tories? Can’t be speaking about Aotearoa, where the policies on fracking, drilling, spying, the TPPA, and keeping Mana out of parliament are all markedly different. Aren’t they?
Good video. Interesting ideas too. Like the idea that the other parties are all the same. Hello, hello, NationalLite.
The best Green campaign was the one with the bill boards of Kids. It had a good message of taking care of the environment for the next generation. Something like that again combined with the commentary of the existing parties similarities would work I think.
The Greens do need to market themselves better.
My worry is that under Metiria there is too much control, so worried about being perceived as ‘loonie left’ the individuality of the MP’s is not being encouraged. Not enough new people, old people leaving and not enough creative ideas.
I’m not suggesting that she should be replaced because she is great in many other areas, but just there needs to be a more creative approach in the party. Really good leaders have to bring people along on a journey, or they can’t, they need to have a side kick that does. At present that is Russell, but when he goes, can Metiria bring the public along on a journey? I am not drawn to any of the candidates for co leader and some I already mildly dislike if they want to link up with the Nats.
I miss Bradford, Kedgley and Fitzsimmons. They all did a great job and in spite of their different personalities I think they did so much for the Green party legacy.