TVNZ and the Nats

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1. Ari 1

   13 May 2008 at 5:08 pm

   You seriously think there aren’t other party insiders who’d do this? I know National has been a bit of a media darling lately, but this seems an odd example to pick on. 🙂
2. Tane 2

   13 May 2008 at 5:13 pm

   I doubt there’s anything to this, Henry’s biased but I don’t pick him as corrupt.
3. higherstandard 3

   13 May 2008 at 5:13 pm

   Seems pretty sensible politics to me Ralph if they haven’t got people with contacts in TVNZ I’d be pretty concerned going into the election if I was the Party President
4. higherstandard 4

   13 May 2008 at 5:16 pm

   Where’s the corruption Tane it’s hardly privileged information
5. Policy Parrot 5

   13 May 2008 at 6:02 pm

   Paul Henry is the breakfast show equivalent of David Farrar, except that amongst Farrar’s readership, at least people know where he stands – even if they don’t like it. Paul Henry’s audience on the other hand – many would not realise he lost to Georgina Beyer in 1999 (National candidate for Wairarapa) and has never gotten over it.

   However, having said that – he would probably do a better job than Wairarapa’s current excuse for an MP.
6. Billy 6

   13 May 2008 at 6:41 pm

   Yeah, Ralph, I think you’re onto something. I also heard Paul Henry was piloting the plane that crashed into the North Tower and that the moon landing was staged in his back garden. That guy from Sensing Murder told me…
7. Lew 7

   13 May 2008 at 6:59 pm

   My impression is much like Billy’s. If you’ve got something more than speculation, let’s have it. Otherwise let’s just take it as a given that leaks occur in both directions to and from the media, but that there’s generally no corruption in it, and it’s not usually traceable to a particular person’s agenda or political views.

   L
8. Ben 8

   13 May 2008 at 7:03 pm

   Give it a rest Ian Wishheart!
9. Sam 9

   13 May 2008 at 7:06 pm

   EVERYONE knew about that story. No conspiracy, simply a pathetic attempt to be ahead of the curve.
10. randal 10

    13 May 2008 at 7:38 pm

    tvnz is riddled with tory wannabees…they wannabee hip…they wannabee in the in crowd..they just wannabee. the only thing they dont wannabee is educated because that takes too much time…they think every thing in life comes at the flick of a remote button and become petulant if it doesnt. thats just my opinion of course but I have been watching the media longer than most of them have been alive and few of them come up to any independent test of acuity or objectivity but instead measure themsleves by column inches in the ‘no idea’!
11. randal 11

    13 May 2008 at 7:39 pm

    and as long as I’m alive wendy petrie is never going to be my mother
12. mike 12

    13 May 2008 at 7:43 pm

    Shock horror! Journo’s are supposed to Lefties at heart. Now they’re leaking stories to the tories. Its all over…
13. Pinetree 13

    13 May 2008 at 8:32 pm

    “Henry?s biased but I don?t pick him as corrupt….”…

    …and apparently not even attempting to hide that bias, based on what I saw the other day (somethign along the lines of people voting Left being less educated etc….)….that show walks a fine line between commentary and broadcast journalism…or in fact treads all over it….

    Anyhow…Labour/left probably less damned if they don’t on this one….ramping up any pressure on it will do nothing but be fuel to the self-fufilling fire….cue that line from from Wilde/Twain (?) about ink and barrels….

    Take him for what he is….radio talk show host, they’re bred to fill airtime with their own voices…talk first, engage brain second…
14. Billy 14

    13 May 2008 at 8:35 pm

    Nice (over) use of the ellipsis, Pinetree.
15. rex brown 15

    13 May 2008 at 9:45 pm

    wow! I never knew Paul Henry stood for National.

    I don’t think he comes across biased to be honest. For a while there I thought he was left leaning.

    The people that have been in charge of TVNZ news have been lefties, did you accuse them of giving Labour inside info?

    For the record, I vote National but strongly dislike henry.
16. randal 16

    13 May 2008 at 9:46 pm

    the thing is that Paul Henry is basically a nincompoop. He does not really know what he stands for as long as it means lording it over the proletariat…simple as that…typical of the no class class of new zealanders..they have to be able to distinguish themselves from the common herd…they dont wear jandals and they bank at ‘that’ bank because it supposedly keeps the common people out… he has a horror of common people.
17. Brett Dale 17

    13 May 2008 at 10:41 pm

    Of course TVNZ leans heavily to the left, look at how they have reported on the big new stories of the past few years, they are our version of what Fox News does for the Republican Party in the USA.
18. Billy 18

    13 May 2008 at 11:04 pm

    And now randal, who had a tenuous grasp on punctuation use to begin with, discovers the ellipsis. Sheesh!
19. lprent 19

    13 May 2008 at 11:08 pm

    This new search is pretty good. I just searched for “Sheesh”. Is this a new word? Looks like almost everyone uses it.

    Billy – you’re in good company
20. Ari 20

    14 May 2008 at 1:35 am

    Policy Parrot- you know, I seriously wonder how the man managed to lose to Georgina Bayer in a conservative place like Wairarapa. He must be as bad a candidate as he is at interviewing.

    Brett Dale- TVNZ is biased to the left? Seriously? I had to stop watching TVNZ current affairs because of how bad it is. At least TV3 takes a somewhat centrist approach. (that’s not the same thing as an unbiased approach)

    And no, not even Paul Henry is as bad as Faux News. At least Paul Henry acknowledges facts and arguments now and then.
21. Lew 21

    14 May 2008 at 7:11 am

    It’s part of the political victim mythology that `the media are against us’. You’ll find that people with a barrow to push often claim this as an explanation for why their outrageous views aren’t shared by the media.

    The fact that One News Colmar-Brunton polls almost always favour National more than the comparable 3 News TNS poll should on its own be enough to mark Brett Dale’s whining out as PVM.

    L
22. Brett Dale 22

    14 May 2008 at 9:41 am

    You only have to look at how they handle the top news stories, year after year after year.

    They are anti Police, they are anti Business, they are Pro global warming, they are anti American, and they always try to make Helen Clark out to be the savior to the the little people.
23. Lew 23

    14 May 2008 at 9:43 am

    Anything more solid than anecdote to back this up? A peer-reviewed content or discourse analysis report, for instance. Or is this just `common sense’?

    L
24. IrishBill 24

    14 May 2008 at 9:55 am

    After reading this post I rang a couple of my contacts at TVNZ and they confirmed that Key was given a tip-off about the P special. Classy.
25. higherstandard 25

    14 May 2008 at 10:02 am

    IB

    As per my post at the beginning of this thread …. so what ?
26. IrishBill 26

    14 May 2008 at 10:04 am

    HS, so nothing. It’s interesting information that reveals a little piece of how the game works. What’s your problem?
27. higherstandard 27

    14 May 2008 at 10:09 am

    IB Great that you agree – the tone of the post is however that this is all unusual and some kind of conspiracy.
28. IrishBill 28

    14 May 2008 at 10:11 am

    Um HS, I didn’t write the post. Here’s a hint: my name is not on the author tag.

    Just for the record I think this sort of collusion between media and political parties is very poor form.
29. Brett Dale 29

    14 May 2008 at 10:17 am

    Lew:

    They are anti Police, take a look at how they handled that wannabe cop Killer Steve Wallace, the Police Officer was made out to be some racist crazy cop by the media.

    Look at how the handle the Power company story, when that family didnt pay their bill, and the family was too stupid too call 111, they blamed the media blamed the company for her death.

    Heck on global warming they are just criminal, never presenting facts to produce a view that says “perhaps we all arent going to die”

    As for Aunty Helen, they always try and show her in a positive light, and they never question her motives.

    Would ya like anymore examples?

    In fact if ya want more examples, just tune in every night.
30. higherstandard 30

    14 May 2008 at 10:17 am

    Are you saying the Labour Party doesn’t do the same thing.

    Or that you merely dislike the media letting any political parties know of stories that are coming up.
31. IrishBill 31

    14 May 2008 at 10:28 am

    HS, from what I understand of the situation there was a deliberate move made to coordinate message on this one. While journos and political staff gossip all the time this was an unusually organised effort.
32. Lew 32

    14 May 2008 at 10:53 am

    Brett, you still haven’t provided me with anything other than `I sez’ and `OMG its obvious’. I work in media analysis; I spend between 4 and 12 hours every day listening to the radio and watching TV news and current affairs for my job, and I run a crew of people in three cities who do the same, so there’s no point in lecturing me about this.

    If all you can muster is four fact-free examples on the discursive level of late-night talkback, don’t bother.

    L

    Captcha: neutral persuade. How appropriate.
33. Phil 33

    14 May 2008 at 12:50 pm

    ” I spend between 4 and 12 hours every day listening to the radio and watching TV news and current affairs for my job,”

    Careful now, it sounds like you’re on a benefit…

    =)
34. Draco TB 34

    14 May 2008 at 1:22 pm

    Where’s the corruption Tane it’s hardly privileged information

    Actually, it would be privileged information as it would be highly commercially sensitive.
35. higherstandard 35

    14 May 2008 at 1:26 pm

    Draco

    Good one
36. randal 36

    14 May 2008 at 1:58 pm

    well why dont you lot cut to the chase…how come it has taken till now to discover the P problem?..National really dont care what happens to the lumpen proletariat unless their troops are gettinga cut somewhere along the line and oh yeah…election year. TVNZ wants to have it both ways…paternal sponsor to the nation and brown nosing politicians the current management agrees with and turn a blind eye to the too difficult to deal with now and dont bother us in our civil society because you might disturb our haricuts. they TEVEENZ have been infantilised and need a good smacking and sent to bed early without their dinner. BOOBIES

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