What is the bet that Slater gets it wrong?

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Apparently Cameron Slater is going to “out” the identity of who got the emails off his system. What is the bet that he has it wrong – again?

His track record is that he virtually always gets it wrong when he “outs” people. Look at his “outing” of Simon Pleasants – wrong. And he is always wrong on our authors.

So far he has outed DotCom for this break in. Yeah right…. Next up is ?

Poor bugger. The stats on that reeking stupid fuckwit Cameron Slater is that he will pick the wrong person. I hope that someone competent has been hand holding the gibbering child. It’d be better if it was accurate for a change.

 

Updated: Yep. It is all DotCom’s friends provided by an txt from DotCom to ex-employee Wayne Tempuro that refers to ? Well nothing much. It reads to me like something related to his case against the state.

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  1. Nick 1
    17 August 2014 at 2:29 pm

    Vote Positive, indeed!

    • lprent 1.1
      18 August 2014 at 12:21 am

      That is the slogan of the Labour party. I am not the Labour party.

      I am a member of Labour,which means to remain a member that I will pay a membership fee of about $20. However I will be party voting Green this year as Labour lost my party vote at the conference in 2012. I will be voting for the Labour candidate in my electorate David Shearer – the irony is overwhelming.

      I write my opinions. Now that will all be hard for you to understand because you clearly are a Moran who never thinks. A perfect right wing fool.

      BTW: I don’t tolerate unthinking fools well. I like to torment them. If you don’t like it, then toughen up.

  2. srylands 2
    17 August 2014 at 2:33 pm

    You are taking yourself too seriously again.

    • tricledrown 2.1
      17 August 2014 at 3:18 pm

      5eyedspylands caught out well and truly testing the water’s is this the best the upper Echelon can do the I’ll looney nutters(Illuminati Iluminazis) !
      The bigger the lies the bigger the spies!

    • Tom Jackson 2.2
      17 August 2014 at 3:19 pm

      Will you admit that Slater is barking mad?

    • ropata 2.3
      18 August 2014 at 12:28 am

      in other words, sly randian doesn’t care if the national govt is full of dirty lying cheats because the sun shines from the rectum of jkey and slater

  3. TheContrarian 3
    17 August 2014 at 2:48 pm

    I couldn’t see anything in those text that was in any way revealing to this particular case. So far nothing from Whale that links Dotcom to Hager.

    Though, just as an aside, if it transpired that it was Dotcom or flunkies related to Dotcom, that would certainly shake things up even more.

    These last few days have been very popcorn worthy.

    • Tom Jackson 3.1
      17 August 2014 at 3:30 pm

      I thought I heard Hager say that the actual hacker is planning to release the emails himself in the near future.

      What’s Slugula going to say when it isn’t KDC?

    • mickysavage 3.2
      17 August 2014 at 3:36 pm

      I couldn’t see anything in those text that was in any way revealing to this particular case.

      In fact I read it the opposite. In the most “incriminating” texts Dotcom says they have been “collecting evidence and witnesses for 3 months. I hired professionals to get me information. We are preparing a case against everyone involved.”

      Slater’s hypothesis is that Dotcom would hack his server, steal his emails and then front up to court with them expecting to use them as evidence.

      How likely is that?

      As if …

      • Anne 3.2.1
        17 August 2014 at 3:46 pm

        People like Slater tend to assume everyone would behave the same way they do…

      • Tracey 3.2.2
        17 August 2014 at 4:22 pm

        if that were true dotcom is paying too much for his lawyers. I suspect slater isnt paying enough cos he knows everything.

      • Yoyo 3.2.3
        17 August 2014 at 10:50 pm

        Perhaps that’s why Nicky was required by whoever did it – to put the emails in the public domain – thereby allowing them to be used by whoever they were useful to?

      • grumpystilskin 3.2.4
        18 August 2014 at 12:17 pm

        What if the KDC email/txt refers to the event on the 15th, not the current shenanagins?

  4. Ant 4
    17 August 2014 at 2:51 pm

    Slater is desperate, wonder if the journos will fall for it?

    • ropata 4.1
      17 August 2014 at 3:23 pm

      Maybe not, even John Armstrong seems pretty pissed off with Slater and Nat’s deceptive shenanigans. Took long enough but they might be waking up..

      • Vaughan Little 4.1.1
        18 August 2014 at 12:25 am

        I read Armstrong as telling Key his best chance of getting National through this to an election victory is the purging of Ede.

    • Tracey 4.2
      17 August 2014 at 4:23 pm

      it depends on which journos slater has dirt on as to what follows methinks

  5. outofbed 5
    17 August 2014 at 2:52 pm

    So he admits the emails were stolen
    So therefore, they exist
    If they exist, Collins must resign immediately

    • Picard110 5.1
      17 August 2014 at 3:22 pm

      That would require slater to admit he is a liar. Despite anyone with a brain knowing Cameron slater is a massive liar and attack dog for national, he won’t admit the emails are real, even if in the same breath he says they were stolen from him.

  6. Salsy 6
    17 August 2014 at 2:53 pm

    Who is the Phil he is referring to?

  7. Heather Tanguay 7
    17 August 2014 at 3:07 pm

    The plot thickens, and what a dirty messy plot. I am well into the book now and have to stay I am shocked at the depths Cameron and his cronies have sunk to. Seems to me too, that those crying the loudest usually have something to hide! The role of Ede is very interesting given his position, we need to know more about him. I am sure we are not at the end of this and tomorrow morning will bring a good deal more claims and counter claims. Meanwhile, let’s vote Positive.

    • Tracey 7.1
      17 August 2014 at 4:25 pm

      hoots allegedly provide hagers street name in response to an email suggesting damage could be done to hager if chinese businessman knew where lived. If true, HOW can a single media outlet use this guy ever again?

      • yeshe 7.1.1
        18 August 2014 at 12:44 am

        this, exactly this 100%

      • Murray Olsen 7.1.2
        18 August 2014 at 1:54 am

        That foul Cactus thing was the one encouraging Horton and Seaslug. I don’t think that’s reasonable behaviour for a lawyer. Nice of her to say that the people she does legal work for are basically murderers as well. Still, what can we expect from ACT?

      • dave 7.1.3
        18 August 2014 at 2:53 am

        so shooton is involved to is there any connections to hoskins ?????yet !!!! waiting for second print run
        iam off topic does slater make money from whale oil or has he paid tax or was he claiming a benefit while earning income?

      • politikiwi 7.1.4
        18 August 2014 at 7:52 am

        I see Hooton is lined up for Nine To Noon’s politics spot this morning, with Kathryn Ryan and Mike Williams.

        That’s gonna be worth a listen.

        • Tracey 7.1.4.1
          18 August 2014 at 8:05 am

          Maybe, but Williams has no history of challenging Hoots.

          Anyone emailing Kathryn Ryan to suggest Hoots supply of a guy’s street name in response to a call for him to be harmed by a tax lawyer in Hong Kong is worthy of RNZ listeners???

          ninetonoon@radionz.co.nz

        • Dialey 7.1.4.2
          18 August 2014 at 9:38 am

          I thought Hooten looked pretty uncomfortable on the Nation yesterday, maybe thinking he might be questioned?

  8. Tom Jackson 8
    17 August 2014 at 3:12 pm

    Slug writes:

    There can be no doubt now that Kim Dotcom has wreaked unholy hell on the political landscape and at the same time drawn in every political party on the opposition side into his sphere of influence.

    All the visits to the mansion by Clare Curran, Russel Norman, Winston Peters, Laila Harre, Martyn Bradbury, Alistair Thompson, Nicky Hager. They are all part of a mega-conspiracy to wreck an election, all for the benefit of Kim Dotcom.

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

    draws breath

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    And he thinks Hager is the conspiracy theorist…

    • Macro 8.1
      17 August 2014 at 4:10 pm

      hehehehehehee

      🙂

      He wouldn’t know a conspiracy theorist if he met one!

      Oh that’s right! … he is one!

  9. ropata 9
    17 August 2014 at 3:18 pm

    Slater isn’t stupid, he’s an intelligent chap with an awfully dark narcissistic streak. His depression probably stems from his tattered conscience reminding him what a foul person he has become. But that inconvenient voice of morality has been effectively silenced by his growing ego and nasty schemes against political foes.

    His daily Proverb is just a christian pretension to help his marketing.

    • Picard110 9.1
      17 August 2014 at 3:25 pm

      Given the way he behaves in public and private, he is no Christian of any description.

      • disturbed 9.1.1
        17 August 2014 at 3:54 pm

        Agreed Christianity would cast Slater out as evil with no hope of repentance.
        Him and his kind are not Christian.
        Slater was caught on RNZ news at 10am Sunday as saying Labour even sent him dirt too???

        We have asked labour to come out and deny this.

        Statergate attack coming on, he needs to be put under oath and face the judge and jury over his evil doings.

        • One Anonymous Bloke 9.1.1.1
          17 August 2014 at 4:19 pm

          It was more-or-less immediately refuted by Hager, who said that there were zero messages from NZLP MPs in the material. Susan Woods’ body language was interesting: she knows Hager is 100% credible.

          I liked the way she correctly characterised a lot of Slater’s effluent as “hate-speech”.

          • TheContrarian 9.1.1.1.1
            17 August 2014 at 4:41 pm

            “It was more-or-less immediately refuted by Hager, who said that there were zero messages from NZLP MPs in the material.”

            Sure but he may not have had all the emails himself and the leak could have redacted everything but National material so that Hager hasn’t seen any means nothing.

            I would find it very surprised indeed if that over the period in question there was no communication from anyone identifiable from Labour or the left side of the fence.

            • One Anonymous Bloke 9.1.1.1.1.1
              17 August 2014 at 4:54 pm

              If there are, and they show anything like the kind of criminally vicious corruption displayed by Judith Collins, Slater has Labour over a barrel.

              He’ll be releasing those dox any day now 😆

          • Psycho Milt 9.1.1.1.2
            17 August 2014 at 4:59 pm

            It was more-or-less immediately refuted by Hager, who said that there were zero messages from NZLP MPs in the material.

            I don’t doubt him, but the fact there were no messages from Labour MPs in the material he was provided with isn’t the same thing as ‘refuting’ Slater’s claim to have had messages from Labour MPs.

            • redfed 9.1.1.1.2.1
              17 August 2014 at 5:05 pm

              If Labour MPs have been communicating with Slater, and it is a big if, then he should release their names. Labour can then decide how to handle it. His claims are an attention seeking power grab. I think the sooner that NZ politics can be returned to normal and Slater permanently sidelined the better.

            • Tracey 9.1.1.1.2.2
              18 August 2014 at 8:06 am

              Right, so we have Hager’s word against Slater’s word. Slater needs to release them now and make a liar of Hager (once the emails and metadata have been independently verified). Mr Slater’s personal integrity has never been and is not today at an all-time high

    • Frank Macskasy 9.2
      17 August 2014 at 3:27 pm

      Ropata, I think his “proverbs” would run along the lines of, “Do Unto Others, before they do unto you…”

    • Macro 9.3
      17 August 2014 at 4:18 pm

      Yes much like the fundamentalist evangelist – who is only in it for the money and the sex.
      http://letmetellyouthis.wordpress.com/tag/list-of-christian-evangelist-scandals/

    • Mike Smith 9.4
      17 August 2014 at 10:17 pm

      Maybe we should have a proverb for Slater – my pick would be Proverbs 26 verse 11: “As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly.” The whole of Chapter 26 also applies – take your pick.

  10. lprent 10
    17 August 2014 at 3:31 pm

    Yeah right. The guy is a paranoid fuckwit. According to him labours slogan was all about him…

  11. wellyB 11
    17 August 2014 at 3:32 pm

    What is the point in you being so viscous? Of course Slater was going to come back with an explanation for it all and KDC does often make himself an easy target… But walk the talk, mate. Don’t call someone a ‘reeking stupid fuckwit … gibbering child’ even if they deserve it. Don’t fan the flames of Slater’s utu hunt, the public will just grow tired of both sides when really the Left should be welcoming people with open arms and as much transparency as possible.

    Don’t want this blog used as an example against Labour’s ‘Vote Positive’ slogan… They are doing well to uphold it for once

    • lprent 11.1
      18 August 2014 at 12:32 am

      Read the about. We aren’t the Labour party.

      I’m just tired of having this fool being held up as being any kind of blogger. He isn’t. He is a self destructive fool who takes pay for pushing strange ideas using hate speech. We need to get rid of him.

      • wellyB 11.1.1
        18 August 2014 at 1:17 am

        maybe I’m being too idealistic in thinking that Hager’s challenge to the Left to step up and be better wasn’t falling on deaf ears.

        This blog, of course, is nothing like the charade of WO – and Slater is a disturbing individual with no journalistic merit, to say otherwise is a joke. I was mainly just commenting on the language, if I didn’t know any better (which most people unfortunately don’t) I would think the message was nasty and similar and just close my browser.

        Sorry if my comment about Left blogs likely to be used against Labour’s positive party ‘line’ was out of place. But all it would take is a slip up/false claim/distraction … some ‘scandal’ about the Left using blogs too and a lot of hard work will be undone.

        You have a platform for this message, and by the look of the false visitor numbers to WO, a more real platform than many.

        Onward and upwards is all I’m sayin’

  12. ghostwhowalksnz 12
    17 August 2014 at 3:50 pm

    So the Oily Orca thinks hes got iron clad evidence ?

    I think hes one of the iron dome missiles that has gone off course.

    Some screen shots of a txt message ??. Yep theres an app for that. Create your own FAKE messages

    “iPhoneFakeText is a cool HTML5 application that you can create fake iphone text conversations. You can edit conversations as well as save your conversation ”

    As for his weird claims he found out about the hack at the time it happened ! Yeah baby!

    The hack would have come through his home computer network, as he has a wife and teens at home, easy peasy to run a social enginnering attack through them and once youre in, there is his personal email db all ready for the hacking.

    • TheContrarian 12.1
      17 August 2014 at 4:37 pm

      Given these are texts from identifiable people I highly doubt they are faked.

      • Macro 12.1.1
        17 August 2014 at 4:46 pm

        Gezz! Your easily fooled.

        • TheContrarian 12.1.1.1
          17 August 2014 at 4:55 pm

          Well given that Dotcom has come out to say the texts relate to something completely benign instead stating they are faked kinda speaks to their authenticity, no?

          • lprent 12.1.1.1.1
            17 August 2014 at 5:07 pm

            if you had a paranoid sociopathic fuckwit with dirt on journos saying something about you – you’d let it ride.

            Are you a wimp?

            • TheContrarian 12.1.1.1.1.1
              17 August 2014 at 5:14 pm

              I’m sorry, I don’t understand your comment.

              Fact remains that Dotcom has stated, through a spokesperson, that the texts are about a different matter altogether…meaning they are genuine – just not in the context Slater thinks they are.

            • Yoyo 12.1.1.1.1.2
              17 August 2014 at 10:54 pm

              I think what the poster was saying (actually it’s reasonably obvious) is that Dotcom himself is not denying they are his texts. Why if they are fake, would he say they are his?

              • lprent …
                17 August 2014 at 11:57 pm

                They may be dotcom’s txts. Who cares?

                What I am saying is that the txts look to me like they are related to some upcoming court case. They simply don’t look like they have anything to do with hacking. Ask yourself this. Can you point to anything in them that doesn’t look like it is to do with a court case.. And can you point to anything in them that says it must be hacking.

                It just looks like one of the many cases that dotcom has.

                I suspect that Cameron is deluded if he thinks this proves anything at all. Paranoid desperation appears to be seeping from his every utterance at present. He also seems to think that everyone is against him. Look at the desperate attempts to join up all of his enemies in a vast conspiracy.

                • Yoyo …
                  19 August 2014 at 12:33 pm

                  As the case may be, you’re more than welcome to make an additional point that has nothing to do with the one you replied to. However, people will be confused if you make points unrelated to theirs in response to them. You seem a little upset, perhaps that is masking your clarity of thought.

      • tricledrown 12.1.2
        17 August 2014 at 7:16 pm

        Wayne Tempero couldn’t hack his way out of a wet paper bag

  13. rob 13
    17 August 2014 at 3:51 pm

    I read the latest boogie man post on Camerons Blog. It doesn’t seem to offer proof and is more the monster under the bed type tale I would expect from Juana writing under his name.
    Her posts often read different, still ranting and crazy, but lacking venom.
    They are clutching at straws, trying to shut the story down.

  14. tricledrown 14
    17 August 2014 at 3:59 pm

    he is in Israel hoping some left wing politician can make some antisemitic comments so he can deflect all his conniving !
    Or is he going to stay their because they don’t have an extradition treaty !

    • disturbed 14.1
      17 August 2014 at 4:41 pm

      Slatergate in Israel?

      Why there?, are we wondering if there is anther reason, say their spy technology is cutting edge??

      Could be the extradition thing or him converting to Jewish religion? I said no Christian would own him now

      Bet your’e right as today he sounded cocky and wont mind saying what he likes there now criminal he is. “Run Forest run!!

      • Ron 14.1.1
        17 August 2014 at 7:46 pm

        I think is going to Israel to purchase the Iron Dome anti missile system. It might do a better job of protecting his server

        Why there?, are we wondering if there is anther reason, say their spy technology is cutting edge??

      • Murray Olsen 14.1.2
        18 August 2014 at 2:07 am

        My guess is that he’s in Israel on a reward trip paid out of the Hasbara budget. The Zionist regime has a huge social media propaganda program and reward people who repeat their poor excuses for their atrocities. I know one guy who I am 100% sure is a Hasbara operative, and he is also a dishonest overweight bully. He’s not in Aotearoa.

  15. Tom Jackson 15
    17 August 2014 at 4:02 pm

    I rarely go to his site, or visit any right wing sites any more, but I’m startled at the sheer number of posters who believe that K.com is some sort of all powerful Bond villain. They’ve all worked themselves up into a lather about it. Amazing.

    • ghostwhowalksnz 15.1
      17 August 2014 at 4:43 pm

      Yeah its hard to believe, he used to have a security business but ran it into bankruptcy, walked away with an income protection policy for his depressive illness but had his payments cut off for ‘working’.

      Promised to fight the insurance company ( Fidelity Life) to the bitter end. Of course that was all bumf and bluster as he didnt have a leg to stand on legally.

      Goes on about elected councillors ( including his alter ego Lusk who writes all the stuff about HBRC- he lives at Otane in Central HB) but was roundly defeated ( about 12th) when he stood for election himself)

    • mpledger 15.2
      17 August 2014 at 4:54 pm

      It’s probably all from the same person just posting from differemt accounts.

      • ghostwhowalksnz 15.2.1
        17 August 2014 at 5:38 pm

        Mostly 40 people who comment as though their life depends on it.
        The site traffic, does seem too much for the content, then again if you have lots of traffic sourced to Indian educational sites that would be paid for clicks

        • Tracey 15.2.1.1
          18 August 2014 at 8:11 am

          Sir Douglas Graham. I wonder what he thinks about his son’s paid behaviours?Allegedly going to WO under aliases to “support” posts he wrote for Cameron Slater (who posted them word for word as his own), and then mocking maori and using the most vile language you could imagine.

    • Tracey 15.3
      18 August 2014 at 8:09 am

      He needed to give them a diversion. Imagine if they started facing the truth about him. This way they can bury the truth about him, while simultaneously feeding off his diversion which actually proves Hager’s whole point about him.

  16. Glenn 16
    17 August 2014 at 4:14 pm

    Wankers at Yahoo pushing as their current headline Whale Oil hacking “funded by Dotcom”.
    When you click on it it comes up as Whale Oil alleges hacking funded by Dotcom.
    Deceitful buggers. Pushing Dear Leader all the time. Time to change my homepage.

  17. Dumbrse 17
    17 August 2014 at 4:18 pm

    I can’t get the smirk off my face long enough to write. Stay focused team and remember what the leader said, no talking to Cameron.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 17.1
      17 August 2014 at 6:34 pm

      Yeah, Cameron has all the emails from Labour on a separate server that didn’t get hacked, and what will their existence (which you have Cameron Slater’s word for – good luck with that) say about John Key and Judith Collins’ behaviour? Nothing.

      If Labour MPs have something to answer for shame on them. If you think that gets the Prime and Justice Ministers off the hook you’re either delusional or your ethics are in the gutter.

  18. Puddleglum 18
    17 August 2014 at 4:25 pm

    Well, I took the time to visit the WhaleOil site.

    The reasoning didn’t seem strong. I noticed a couple of things about both sets of texts that were in the post.

    The first text was the one in which Dotcom wonders who might have done the hacking and then ‘winks’. This has been used to implicate Dotcom as ‘confessing’ to the hack. But the odd thing is that Wayne Tempero (assuming these were his screenshots as claimed) then replies “Ha not me.”

    One reading would be that Wayne Tempero’s interpretation of the Dotcom winking text was that Dotcom was suggesting that he (Wayne Tempero) had done the hacking. Of course, Tempero could have been playing along with the ‘joke’ and wasn’t seriously denying that he had done the hacking. A further interpretation is that they could have both been referring to a third person who they had discussed previously as being the likely hacker.

    All in all, hardly an incontrovertible ‘confession’.

    More interesting was the second set of texts. Cameron Slater says they were from ‘June’ (no indication of when in June).

    That’s interesting because of the claim Dotcom makes that mickysavage has already highlighted:

    “collecting evidence and witnesses for 3 months. I hired professionals to get me information. We are preparing a case against everyone involved.”.

    Three months prior to (early) June is (early March). That means the suggested evidence collection period does not overlap with the period that involved the hacking of Slater’s computer system since that was in February.

    Finally, I don’t think hacked emails would be admissible as evidence – going on mickysavage’s comment above.

    I suppose the book ‘Dirty Politics’ might be admissible but what is there in it that would be useful to Dotcom’s case? (I haven’t read it yet).

    • ghostwhowalksnz 18.1
      17 August 2014 at 4:46 pm

      Dotcom has spent a fortune trying to get a lot of his siezed material back.

      When the FBI is on your back, someone like Slater barely registers.

  19. Enough is Enough 19
    17 August 2014 at 4:34 pm

    Fucking stuff and nzherald are currently running this bullshit as their lead ahead of the brilliant Green launch today.

    The fat bastard is stealing our air time.

    • ghostwhowalksnz 19.1
      17 August 2014 at 4:49 pm

      Face it , Greens campaign launch would find it hard to compete with ‘man stuck in lift’

    • BLiP 19.2
      17 August 2014 at 4:58 pm

      The fat bastard is stealing our air time.

      That was the idea, wasn’t it?

  20. vto 20
    17 August 2014 at 4:50 pm

    So the emails are true then.

    That clears that up.

  21. JanMeyer 21
    17 August 2014 at 5:04 pm

    This is so much fun! What wrre Labour’s policies again? God knows given this noise!

  22. dv 22
    17 August 2014 at 5:30 pm

    SO let me get this straight.
    Slater wants us to believe he knew that DotCom was hacking his site in June.
    AND Slater kept quiet about it until now!!!

    • tricledrown 22.1
      17 August 2014 at 7:53 pm

      Slater is in even bigger trouble accusing Wayne Tempero of being involve Tempero couldn’t hack his way out of a paper bag he was KDC’s personal security guard most likely got the sack for not being able to keep KDC secure during raids!

      • Dumbrse 22.1.1
        17 August 2014 at 8:20 pm

        Shame you can’t read or keep up with current events. If you look hard you will see Tempero went out of his way to ring Cameron in Israel today and bring him up to date with events as he recalled them. Engage your brain before your keyboard.

        • tricledrown 22.1.1.1
          17 August 2014 at 9:00 pm

          Hager has said it had nothing to do with Dotcom ,Tempero is just another narcissistic egotistical attention seeker we’ll see who’s right I think you have been had you believe anything on whaleoil!

          • Nick K 22.1.1.1.1
            17 August 2014 at 9:56 pm

            No he didn’t. He said Dotcom wasn’t the source.

            • tricledrown 22.1.1.1.1.1
              17 August 2014 at 10:17 pm

              He said he would have given it to other media outlets if Dotcom had anything to do with it!
              NicKK

              • Nick K …
                17 August 2014 at 10:19 pm

                Well, then I stand corrected.

              • Dumbrse …
                18 August 2014 at 7:25 pm

                And does tricledown still standby his previous statements about Tempero. As I said before, engage your brain.

                • tricledrown …
                  18 August 2014 at 9:34 pm

                  dumbrse i will put my money where my mouth is and donate $10.00 to a worthy charity kids can if you put your money where your mouth is and do the same.
                  The Herald has quoted Winston Peters email address not that there making a claim that its Winston But you continue to believe a desperate man who is flailing around like a beached whale won’t do interviews!

        • Tracey 22.1.1.2
          18 August 2014 at 8:13 am

          Can you point me to Mr Tempero’s statement to this effect, other than Slater said Mr Tempero said…

  23. karol 23
    17 August 2014 at 6:42 pm

    2 guys with big egos and aggressive styles go at it.

    All smoke and mirrors from Slater – big diversion from Nat-Slater-Ede-Collins dirty dealings.

  24. Mark 24
    17 August 2014 at 7:07 pm

    Internet Mana at 4% in TV1 poll. Nats down to 47.5 in TV3 poll. And all before “Dirty Politics” came out.

  25. kenny 25
    17 August 2014 at 8:08 pm

    Haven’t had time to read all the posts – why has no-one in the media tried to interview Jason Ede?

    Where is he hiding?

  26. Mike the Savage One 26
    17 August 2014 at 9:16 pm

    Perhaps it is wise to be prepared for a “revenge attack”, other agendas, or something sinister of that kind, as there are signs of something brewing, or being prepared to look like a “conspiracy”:

    “Judith Collins’ husband targeted in burglary”
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11310180

    “MP burgled and hacked”
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11310030

    Having watched the news on One and TV3, and not just taken note of the polls, I see there is something coming up.

    Either these are coincidences that are being used to attack Dotcom, perhaps even charge him, or there is indeed something more to it.

    Of course Dotcom would not be so silly to get himself involved, but the text messages between him and his former security staffer Tempero sound a bit worrying indeed.

    It is too early to read anything in and out, but it is almost certain, this will all be used to launch a nasty attack on Dotcom, and to further implicate Nicky Hager into all this.

    What an “election campaign”, I have never seen one like this in dear old New Zealand.

  27. redfred 27
    17 August 2014 at 10:12 pm

    I think something orchastrated is brewing and its not National.

    Wait until about the 22nd, I think we will see either the SIS Goff OIA emails or the Collins prisoner transfer messages, or maybe one on the 22nd and one on the 23rd. If its substantitave enough (it will be) to wreck Nationals campaign launch Ede and Collins gone Tuesday.

    Im picking the 8GB will be up on wikileaks by the end of the month, I don’t think they will let Hager take any more punishment. Hope not anyway.

    • lprent 27.1
      17 August 2014 at 10:25 pm

      I suspect a wikileaks style release as well. Keeps it well out of NZ hands, and accessible by everyone.

      • Mike the Savage One 27.1.1
        17 August 2014 at 10:54 pm

        That is EXACTLY what I am expecting, something loaded onto a “neutral” website from an “anonymous” source, or a new website with no detectable connections to any known person or party, to suddenly reveal what documents there are.

        I am sure the SIS will have their “fun” and will be kept busy, surely also their “boss”!

        Wikileaks have shown us how it can be done.

        • Kiwiri 27.1.1.1
          17 August 2014 at 11:28 pm

          Heh. Some National MPs, particularly a certain one, should be quite concerned and stay awake till 4am. For the next few mornings until the emails are disclosed.
          Sleep tight everyone!

  28. Tigger 28
    17 August 2014 at 10:12 pm

    Slater really is a typical bully – all fire and bluster when he’s throwing punches but all tears and whining if someone dares to take him on.

    He grows sadder and more pathetic by the day.

    • tricledrown 28.1
      17 August 2014 at 10:59 pm

      I looked up conferences mid August Te Aviv found the International association of Psychoanalytical self-help Physcology!
      Maybe bully boy can’t handle the pressure coming onto him from his own self destructive behaviour !

    • Mike the Savage One 28.2
      17 August 2014 at 11:02 pm

      When nobody loves you, especially the desired sex candidates, and what else there may be as “frustrations”, hatred can grow to be highly destructive forms for any person affected.

      How did his parents treat him, I wonder?

      Why has the Whale turned out to be the specimen of a human he is?

      Is there a self help group for persons like him?

      Maybe the 12 step program, but before you qualify, you have to accept and surrender, to your failings and so forth. I see him too far away from that at this stage. Let us hope and wish for the best, that our “friend” Cameron may find his human self one day, and eat humble pie and discover his heart and soul and gentle feelings.

      Oh, I sound like a Christian, do I not?

  29. meconism 29
    17 August 2014 at 10:44 pm

    If Dotcom’s analysis of WO blog is close to right, then WO spilling all this bile for the Nats is being read by way less than the hundreds of thousand Slater is telling Ede. I just hope the GCSB have got the ninth floor bugged. I wonder if they are stupid enough to pay him? Follow the money.

    • tricledrown 29.1
      17 August 2014 at 11:12 pm

      Canon The tobacco and the Grocery council will want their money back because of low readership
      Yeah right!

  30. ropata 30
    17 August 2014 at 10:59 pm

    The fat little oxygen thief is somewhat of a distraction. There are many other scandals going on in NZ. But the common factor is a government that hates the poor and working class, and serves the rich.

    A few other things that should be front page news:
    * kids with third world diseases
    * kids going to school hungry and without shoes
    * the working poor, unable to earn a living wage
    * the top 1% taking 99% of the economic gains since ’84
    * the government selling public assets to their one-percenter pals
    * a dairy industry running amuck and turning rivers to shit
    * the demise of the kiwi dream and rise of the rentier class

    Watch Nigel Latta’s latest documentary, The Haves and Have Nots and try not to smash your TV

    • miravox 30.1
      18 August 2014 at 8:23 am

      +1 Ropata

      The most important part of this dirty politics uproar is these people lie, steal and manipulate information to maintain their presumed entitlements and deny others a fair life.

  31. Mike the Savage One 31
    17 August 2014 at 11:13 pm

    It was totally bizarre what Cam Slater said in the interview with Susan Wood on Q+A today, when he said, about half his “contacts” were from the Labour Party, and that he was having contacts all over the political spectrum in New Zealand. He even mentioned Stuart Nash and Kelvin Davis, and I wonder what that was about.

    So Cam is multi party all over a sudden, and he is “not” even a National Party member, he said. He identified himself more in line with ACT politics, and that tells us something perhaps, about the names he mentioned about Labour members he had been in touch with?! It seems he is keen to work more on the split in Labour, and he seems to have been a great force behind the scene, to encourage and promote the ABC brigade. That may be speculation, but who knows? I am sure Phil Goff is NO friend of Slater, after all this.

    Anyway, does anyone believe this person, this so self centred maladapted character? I hope he gets taken to court for his misdeeds, and that he will fail with his attempts to lay charges against some he is now saying he will prosecute.

    We will have some interesting weeks ahead, I think.

    • Roy 31.1
      18 August 2014 at 4:23 pm

      Funny that there are no pictures of him snuggling up to Cunliffe at Labour Party functions, like there are pictures of him snuggling up to Key at National Party functions, then, isn’t it?

      • lprent 31.1.1
        18 August 2014 at 9:11 pm

        You won’t see me snuggling up to politicians at all. I have an allegy to charm. Also to photos – I like being known for ideas rather than wasting my time on presence.

  32. Hami Shearlie 32
    17 August 2014 at 11:52 pm

    I also wonder about Slater mentioning contact with Stuart Nash and Kelvin Davis. Mind you he is so desperate to deflect attention from himself, he would say ANYTHING about ANYONE at this point!

    • Tracey 32.1
      18 August 2014 at 8:16 am

      dont you think they would be angry to be wrongly associated with this guy…

      Mr Davis’ behaviour up noirth, taking donations from Fafer and so on doesn’t make you a little suspicious?

      Even BS-ers tell the truth sometimes.

      • McFlock 32.1.1
        18 August 2014 at 9:22 pm

        if truth is indistinguishable from deceit, all we have is our own preconceptions. And a halfway decent lie preys on preconceptions.

        Slater’s hoping for denials to distract from him and also to make labour sound like key. I suspect the best course of action is to merely let his credibility speak for itself – slugboy added nothing with his claims.

        If slugboy said that the sky was blue, I’d check. And if he said it was raining, I’d double check to make sure he wasn’t covering for john key taking a massive piss all over the front door.

  33. discreetly 33
    18 August 2014 at 1:25 am

    Did Cameron Slater disclose income from Carrick Graham while on the SB?

  34. mpledger 34
    18 August 2014 at 10:01 am

    Dot Com is the go to “whipping boy” for National when they can’t blame Labour. But it may actually work against them – any court action here is going to delay the extradition hearings and that will work in Dot Com’s favor. And the longer Dot Com hangs around and is in the news being hounded by the National government the more he will become the “little guy against the State”. NZers don’t like that kind of thing, especially when it’s out of proportion to the “crime”, and will start siding with him.

  35. Michael W 35
    18 August 2014 at 10:09 pm

    What a disgraceful and poor image. Swearing and name calling galore all throughout the site, as long as directed at “the enemy”. So much for your “policy”.

    [lprent: Our policy is here.

    We don’t have a policy against swearing or name calling. Instead we support robust debate including swearing and name calling where appropriate. So long as there is a point and you don’t go too far over the top (ie attract moderator attention), it adds to the robust debate that people can be challenged at a personal level when they are being fools. This tends to be quite educational especially for the arrogant and profoundly ignorant loudmouths like yourself.

    The moderation follows in the same vein. When we see someone claiming describe what our policy should be rather than what it actually is, the moderators (especially me) tend to call them gormless fools. We really don’t like jerkoffs who are too illiterate and impolite to read the rules of the site before they start spraying around whatever hangs around their small and diseased mind. We consider such behaviour to be potentially infectious and move to excise the contamination as soon as possible in case it is contagious.

    Banned 6 weeks for the stupidity of thinking this site is a political party and being too thick to read the about. ]

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