A very stupid petulant spoilt child whines again

Written By: - Date published: 4:47 am, February 19th, 2016 - 47 comments
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Good news for law abiding bloggers, the foolish Cameron Slater has to find about 8k to pay for his latest legal hiding  by Matthew Blomfield.

I can summarise the judgement as this. If a judge orders you to take down a post to avoid contempt of court, then it pays to do so. Especially in a civil action. The fine may be small (in this case $1500), but paying the plaintiff’s legal costs in a civil can leak money fast (in this case 60% of $11,000 = $6,600). 

I’d expect to see even more activity on the extortion raising of funds on Whaleoil from the ever diminishing commentators and the small proportion of actual local readers in their inflated statistics.

Of course Cameron Slater whines about it, especially the money. But we have all met people who like to talk big, and who whine piteously when bailed up about it to avoid the responsibility for their own completely stupid actions. And this is really whining..

He said ongoing attempts by Mr Blomfield to seek court orders against him, including bankruptcy proceedings, were designed to wear him down financially.

Ha! Who wrote the posts about Mr Blomfield that I think were highly defamatory. That is the person that Cameron Slater should point to for his misfortunes.

Mr Blomfield has followed the legal route for redress in the defamation case in public and continues to do so. It appears that Mr Blomfield has wanted a public courts and documentation to help clear his name. Mr Blomfield observes the court orders and pursues their enforcement with vigour.

Mr Blomfield seeks court orders when Cameron Slater violates previous court orders. Often it appears that Cameron Slater does it quite deliberately as if to express his inner petulant and rather spoilt child. Seeking court orders is Mr Blomfield’s redress when Cameron acts like a fool and violates court orders.

When a judgement is made for legal costs and a deadbeat with an interesting and occluded income stream like Cameron Slater fails to pay them, it is a bad debt. The legal recourse for collection is ultimately bankruptcy proceedings. This involves more court time and more costs.

These are all correct legal actions to curb particular types of stupid behaviour. If Cameron Slater doesn’t like them, then he should just avoid performing any action that the court has proscribed with court orders or which may fall under those orders. To date that appears to have been something he has a great deal of trouble understanding.

I have no idea how Slater thinks that bleating to reporters about being dragged in front of court to explain multiple times to explain his actions will help. I’m pretty sure that it won’t.

Probably more useful would be for Cameron Slater to get off his lazy arse, stop giving Mr Blomfield cause to drag him into court to enforce action on court orders, and accept that eventually he will wind up dealing with his defamatory posts about Mr Blomfield back in 2012 – nearly 4 years ago.

Matthew Blomfield appears to want to see those posts he claims are defamatory to be examined and judged on legally. That means that eventually all of Cameron Slater evasions will be for nought. The child will have to face the pain of examination and judgement, which I suspect will be something he does not wish to do.

This is evidenced by the case being dragged by Cameron Slater through several fruitless appeals. And appeals are expensive.

I believe that he is currently appealing for leave to present his appeal of the high court ruling to the Court of Appeal (after losing an attempt to introduce new evidence). While trying not to second-guess the Appeal court judges, I did sit through a large chunk of the appeal loss in the High Court that he is appealing. I think Cameron has a a chance of winning any appeal that is on the same order of a snowballs chance of surviving a Auckland summers day.

While I’m sure that Cameron thinks that the idea of fighting all of those rather strange appeals is cool, they cost money to fight even when ‘representing yourself’. Appeals mean doing costly filing of the paperwork with the court, the costs of attending court, and apon losing – paying the legal costs of whoever you are losing to.

And ‘representing yourself’, in the world of the nutters of the populist right blogs, appears to mean having the rather strange and highly unfocused legal talents of Dermot Nottingham as an ‘advocate’ or a ‘supporter’, and losing every time. Yeah good luck with that…

I expect that one day Cameron Slater will manage finally jump through the right hoops to get his appeal day with the Court of Appeal. I also expect that he will lose and then start blustering about appealing to the Supreme Court. But in the meantime I expect that he will keep irresponsibly violating court orders, and getting pulled up for it,  right up to the time when he winds up back at the High Court to defend or admit his original defamations.

That is because Cameron Slater is, in my view, very fundamentally stupid. He doesn’t seem to think that the laws that bind us all collectively as a society apply to him. But they do. It doesn’t matter how much this petulant spoilt 40+ brat twists and turns, eventually he will be facing in court the consequences of his actions in 2012 in writing those posts about Matthew Blomfield

 

 

And on a side issue, I still don’t know what the police status is for the complaint against Cameron Slater for hiring someone to try to hack into my personal servers. I’ll have to go and officially ask about that, as I haven’t been told anything by the police (or courts).

The more that I think about that particular bit of stupidity the more irritated I get. Speaking as a computer programmer, which is mostly what I do when I am not on here, I’m angry that someone who so clearly violated the Crimes Act in attempting to procure a crime targeting my personal server appears to have not had charges placed against him. But I want to know the details of the state of the case because there are a number of actions I can take if the police aren’t willing to lay charges, or even if they are proceeding.

Basically I want to make damn sure that Cameron Slater realises that it’d be a very bad idea to even consider trying to hack my or anyone else’s computers again. Since he is such a slow learner, the lesson will have to be pretty blunt. Prison time seems to me to be quite justified.

47 comments on “A very stupid petulant spoilt child whines again ”

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  1. tc 1
    19 February 2016 at 6:46 am

    Good luck finding out what nationals police are doing about slaters attempts to hack you.

  2. Chooky 2
    19 February 2016 at 7:59 am

    lol…good news alright…pity the fine and penalty wasnt bigger…Cameron Slater thinks he is above and beyond the law ( there is a name for this…and it means menace to civil society)

  3. BLiP 3
    19 February 2016 at 8:11 am

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    Dermot Nottingham . . . a McKenzie friend . . . hahahahaha! That’s hilarious. If ever a pair of knuckle draggers deserved each other, its Slater and Nottingham.

  4. vto 4
    19 February 2016 at 8:29 am

    Don’t know why you bother with the pig of a man. In fact he doesn’t even reach the standards of pigs which are fine, clean and intelligent animals with compassion.

    The sooner he disappears from the face of the earth the better

    • James 4.1
      19 February 2016 at 8:53 am

      “The sooner he disappears from the face of the earth the better”

      Really ??? just because you dont like someone thats a horrible thing to say.

      There are plenty of people on here that are pigs also, but to ‘wish’ something like that personally – I think makes you just as bad as he (if not more so knowing that he suffers from depression).

      If a member of the right said the sooner someone on the left disappears from the face of the earth the better – people on here would be up in arms (assuming that the comment was left without moderation).

      For the record – even as a “righty” – I agree with the basis of LPrents post here – I think Slater is being an idiot in regard to this. As for how hard he is fighting it – Im guessing there is stuff he does not want to come out. But hey – you break the law, you pay the consequences.

    • Roflcopter 4.2
      19 February 2016 at 12:49 pm

      I’m not a CS fan by any means, but this is yet another fucking digusting comment that is becoming all too common on TS.

      And stop trying to justify/pass it off as “just acting as a mirror” you sad sack.

      • McFlock 4.2.1
        19 February 2016 at 3:02 pm

        yeah, don’t like shamelessly wishing people to die.

        We need to remind ourselves that even those who are… “difficult to love”, as it were, are human beings.

        I’m happy ripping seven kinds of shit out of people, but wishing them dead is not something we should be doing.

        • One Anonymous Bloke 4.2.1.1
          19 February 2016 at 3:04 pm

          +1

          Attack the argument and/or behaviour, not the person.

          • instauration 4.2.1.1.1
            21 February 2016 at 8:28 pm

            Wishing the demise of an entity that is errant is an effective way of managing outcomes.
            We don’t have a commercial airport at Whenuapai – Morrison
            Party pills ceased to threaten my kids – Millar
            Parked cars are now safer – Lance – Haigh
            Sporting contracts are now less subjective – Pugh
            Goats of the World City are now beyond Criticism – Holmes

            Many more
            Works for me

        • vto 4.2.1.2
          19 February 2016 at 3:11 pm

          Hey, everyone, who said anything about being dead?? Certainly not me. Please read again – s l o w l y . . .

          this was intentional

          that’s it for me and this entire subject forever and ever

          • McFlock 4.2.1.2.1
            19 February 2016 at 3:25 pm

            “The sooner he disappears from the face of the earth the better”

            Disappearing from a thread can be the result of many different causes: personal problems, time management, banning, advice from friends, cowardice, and so on.

            But 99.9% of all humans in history who have “disappeared from the face of the earth” have done so in only one way.

  5. Frank Macskasy 5
    19 February 2016 at 8:39 am

    The Right are supposedly strong advocates of Law & Order…

    • James 5.1
      19 February 2016 at 8:55 am

      One person does not represent the entire right.

      And as a righty – I personally believe he broke the law – and indeed should face the consequences of his actions.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 5.1.1
        19 February 2016 at 9:05 am

        One person does not represent the entire right.

        That’s true. However, when that one person has a direct line into the Prime Minister’s and other Offices, who hand him information on a plate for their own ends, and socialise with him, you can understand why everyone might think so.

      • Lanthanide 5.1.2
        19 February 2016 at 9:08 am

        The point, James, is that Slater riles up his audience with law and order topics, while he himself simultaneously doesn’t abide by the rule of law. Many of his supporters (ie, the idiots that tithe him money) are similarly supporters of law and order being upheld, except when it comes to Slater.

        It’s hypocrisy at its most rank..

      • Lanthanide 5.1.3
        19 February 2016 at 9:08 am

        I’ve just made two replies to this comment that haven’t been published, I suspect they may be held in moderation or possibly the spam bucket? If it’s in moderation, I don’t see them displayed, with the little tag saying “awaiting moderation” as I would have expected. Bug?

      • You_Fool 5.1.4
        19 February 2016 at 9:19 am

        “One person does not represent the entire right.”

        Tell that to Slater, sometimes it seems like he thinks he is the entire “right”

    • Redbaiter 5.2
      19 February 2016 at 11:53 am

      Frank- The political divide these days is really between Progressives and Conservatives and Slater definitely does not fit the latter category.

      I was banned from his site ostensibly for calling him a dickhead but really because my comments opposing same sex marriage were garnering considerable support.

      He later did a post accusing me of voting up my own comments, which was a baseless and cowardly lie. An attempt to smear me because he perceived me as leading a charge against him (from Conservatives) and he was losing ground.

      His professed care for freedom of expression and a diversity of viewpoints is garbage.

      He’s not a Conservative, he’s a progressive, and with his apparent lack of any kind of regard for principle, he’s symptomatic of everything that is wrong today with the party of Sid Holland.

      So please, when you comment on Slater, try not to think of him as anyone who is ever going to give the Labour party any real problem. He’s just a politically confused buffoon.

    • TopHat 5.3
      19 February 2016 at 3:37 pm

      No I think they are more tuned toward crime and PUNISHMENT.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 5.3.1
        19 February 2016 at 3:39 pm

        ^^^this.

        If they really wanted less crime they’d advocate for better (as measured by outcomes) penal policy.

        They pursue vengeance fantasies instead.

  6. savenz 6
    19 February 2016 at 9:28 am

    Like the offspring of many Natz, they don’t think laws apply to them, because Daddy always cleaned up before.

    Therefore I think Slater will never change. Fundamentally due to his upbringing, the family & political connections he comes from and his own narcissistic personality he will keep hacking others, doing dirty politics and avoiding responsibility via fighting legal action and refusing to pay, and his family and political connections will protect him until a point where he has gone too far and then the punishment will come raining down.

    He has already been repeatedly caught, the problem is, he keeps avoiding punishment.

    • mac1 6.1
      19 February 2016 at 10:05 am

      I agree with your assessment. What concerns me is the way that supposedly more moderate members of the right use Slater, allowing him to coddle up to them, and feeding his mania for their own purposes.

      • greywarshark 6.1.1
        19 February 2016 at 11:09 am

        I’m afraid what rains down is most likely to be Golden Rain, and that still won’t match his insupportable criminal and socially destructive behaviour.

    • James 6.2
      19 February 2016 at 10:43 am

      “he keeps avoiding punishment”

      Not really. He is just putting it off- its just getting worse and worse for him when he does need to pay.

      • Macro 6.2.1
        19 February 2016 at 9:16 pm

        Yes. It is all going to end very messily I fear for Cameron. He is digging a very deep hole for himself.

  7. ianmac 7
    19 February 2016 at 9:44 am

    No doubt certain people in the National Party will front up with the cash.
    Sl**er knows stuff that would be disastrous if given light.

    • mary_a 7.1
      19 February 2016 at 11:43 am

      @ ianmac (7) this is true. And given the fact the greasy whale is in a very fragile mental state, he could just explode if put under pressure or feels threatened. The revelations would undoubtedly end the reign of FJK.

      So NatzKEY prefer to keep the whale man sweet and onside … just in case! I’m surprised he’s still upright and walking around in fact, with what he knows!

  8. AmaKiwi 8
    19 February 2016 at 10:41 am

    John Key let Cameron Slater down.

    I would have thought Key would have passed a law exempting Slater from any litigation.

    Dictators can do that.

  9. keepcalmcarryon 9
    19 February 2016 at 11:02 am

    Despite the obvious real harm Slater does to others with his disgusting behaviour, part of me feels sorry for him.
    He seems to suffer massively from “tranference” , reflecting outward his inner self loathing.
    His decision making falls well outside “normal”, it may well be he needs some form of help.

  10. Anne 10
    19 February 2016 at 11:19 am

    It’s an interesting dilemma that the National Party finds itself in over Slater. On the one hand many influential Nats hate his guts and I don’t think John Key is particularly disposed towards him anymore. On the other hand Slater must have knowledge concerning Nat MPS (including Key) – and other party luminaries – which would be enough to bring about their downfall if he was to ‘talk’ about them. I would be very interested to know how they are keeping him silent. ianmac touched on one obvious solution. They are supplying him with cash. And it probably is literally cash too so there is no paper trail which could lead back to them. There could also be an element of blackmail because John Key’s top drawer will not only have info on Nat. enemies but also their friends.

  11. adam 11
    19 February 2016 at 1:04 pm

    Once again, thanks Lprent for a clear and precise piece.

  12. Rich 12
    19 February 2016 at 2:46 pm

    Apart from prison being an expensive way to make bad people worse, I think it would be cruel and unusual punishment to inflict Slater on the prison population of honest drug dealers and house burglars.

    I’d suggest intensive supervision for an extended period of time with a condition of no internet use, given that the internet is the locus of Slater’s transgressions.

  13. repateet 13
    19 February 2016 at 3:43 pm

    Here is the News.

    Today on his site Cameron Slater called someone ‘a fool’.

    Today on his site Cameron Slater pontificates about someone having to pay money back which they misappropriated.

  14. adam 14
    19 February 2016 at 8:49 pm

    Silly question Lprent, but could you not do a private prosecution?

  15. Grindlebottom 15
    20 February 2016 at 8:34 am

    I’ve warmed to Cam somewhat these days. His unintentional ongoing comedy show makes me laugh so often.