Advising the country about Covid19 is unfair to National

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1. dv 1

   16 June 2020 at 9:56 am

   GEEZ, haven't they got anything better to do!!!!
2. Tricledrown 2

   16 June 2020 at 10:13 am

   National crying Wolf again dumping of the spoilt brat was supposed to change things but no muddling copying Jacindas successful lines shows National are well out of touch.The born to rule mentality is showing through.
3. dv 3

   16 June 2020 at 10:22 am

   Natz covid response returns 404
4. Riffer 4

   16 June 2020 at 10:59 am

   Hmmm. It would appear that effective government is definitely detrimental to the opposition.
5. Peter 5

   16 June 2020 at 11:05 am

   There is nothing more certain than Brownlee will come up with a parade of silly stunts. There is nothing more certain that the 'permanently left leaning media' will give his silliness attention.
6. Tricledrown 6

   16 June 2020 at 11:19 am

   National would have preferred if the Coalition had mucked it up no doubt.

   National can't complain the Canterbury earthquakes gave National another 3 years especially with the $80 billion in reconstruction costs boosting the NZ economy after the GFC.
7. Ed1 7

   16 June 2020 at 11:34 am

   I think you are all being very mean to Gerry Brownlee. He raised a legitimate concern, and it was appropriately and speedily dealt with as he requested. Gerry is a new Zealander; it is right that his concern was taken seriously, but he has also reminded a lot of people, through the publicity that he has given the exchange, of the importance of a fundamental principle of political neutrality of the public service. He was acting as a member of our loyal opposition, and I think we can take this as evidence that Gerry and his party have found at least this one thing where they have value to offer New Zealand.
8. Morrissey 8

   16 June 2020 at 11:41 am

   It's a mystery that John Armstrong had the gall to write anything ever again, after his epic humiliation at the hands of Gordon Campbell some years ago. He was discredited, and anyone with a sense of shame or even the most rudimentary sense of dignity would have disappeared from public view.
   • te reo putake 8.1

     16 June 2020 at 12:05 pm

     Dunno, Morrissey. You've been discredited here at TS many, many times, particularly when you were regularly posting your notoriously unreliable transcrapts. I'm possibly in the minority here but it'd be a shame if you bowed to your own rudimentary sense of dignity and did one. Same for John Armstrong, who is at least reliable in presenting the right wing view of things.
     • Climaction 8.1.1

       16 June 2020 at 12:11 pm

       Thanks you TRP!
     • Morrissey 8.1.2

       16 June 2020 at 1:08 pm

       I've never been exposed as a liar and a fool like Armstrong has. You and a few others flinging epithets and making false accusations carries no weight.

       Still, it’s always good to see you’re up and about, my friend.

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       • Andre 8.1.2.1

         16 June 2020 at 2:18 pm

         “Exposed” really isn't the correct word when it's been right out in the open the whole time.
         • Morrissey 8.1.2.1.1

           16 June 2020 at 5:22 pm

           Oh yes indeed. Your allegations have been shown, time and time again, to be right on the mark. Thanks to your tireless research, we now know that Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, John Pilger, Glenn Greenwald and everyone else not actively on Team Biden are "useful idiots", and we know that Max Blumenthal, far from being a brilliant and principled journalist, in fact leads a "cadre" of hipsters who have "commonalities" with Alex Jones, Richard Spencer, and the Ku Klux Klan.

           Keep up the great work!

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     • Tiger Mountain 8.1.3

       16 June 2020 at 2:34 pm

       @TRP 12:05.

       The simpering Armstrong is full of it, I recall his apology to David Cunliffe for that notorious “must resign” column over the 11 year old constituent correspondence.
       • Morrissey 8.1.3.1

         16 June 2020 at 5:27 pm

         John Armstrong has been exposed as a crybaby and a drip on many occasions, but none more devastatingly than when he foolishly got into a fight with the superior Gordon Campbell….
         http://gordoncampbell.scoop.co.nz/2012/09/17/gordon-campbell-on-journalism-and-john-armstrong/
   • tc 8.2

     16 June 2020 at 2:30 pm

     Thought he'd been put out to pasture. Bots will craft this type of stuff sooner or later so all you'll need is a figurehead.
9. roblogic 9

   16 June 2020 at 12:33 pm

   Gerry has a selective memory. His cronies yelled "Key Derangement Syndrome" anytime we objected to Key's teflon PR campaigns and sycophantic media
10. Jum 10

    16 June 2020 at 2:14 pm

    When will the public radio stop using RNZ NATIONAL ever five seconds every day when the word national is completely superfluous (NZ is the whole country!).

    Is National paying for this advertising of their party from their election funding? Why are they allowed to campaign 24/7 i.e. all 3 years without making some payment?

    When Radio New Zealand reduced itself to RNZ, supposedly to come into the digital 21stC advertising itself as radio plus, why didn't it just call itself RNZ PLUS?

    RNZ Concert is a specialist programme and is necessary.
    • Heather Grimwood 10.1

      16 June 2020 at 4:20 pm

      to Jum at 10 : The ‘NATIONAL’ tag on RNZ happened under a National govt I think before an election as I believed it then to be at least subliminal advertising, but I felt much more obvious. I felt that to draw attention in complaint would only emphasise any effect.
      • rod 10.1.1

        16 June 2020 at 4:31 pm

        It should be RNZ NATIONAL ( PARTY) imho,
        • In Vino 10.1.1.1

          16 June 2020 at 9:16 pm

          Actual history: Until Rogernomics and the ridiculous corporatisation of everything, there were some radio stations that were semi-commercial and used advertising like 1ZB. There were the national radio chains like 1YA (now RNZ National, 2YA, 3YA 4YA ,all AM, scattered from North to South across the country) The Classical chain were 1YC (Auckland), 2YC (Wellington) and so on across the Nation. There was also a 1YD chain of stations that just went for light music, and occasionally but reluctantly played pop music, like the early Rolling Stones hits… About 1967, Radio Hauraki's pirate station was allowed to come ashore and exist totally privately!!

          The problem about National Party being associated with National Radio was never seen as serious – it was assumed that people were intelligent enough to know very well the difference between the two meanings of the one word.

          Under Rogernomics, with the silly pretence that State-owned enterprises would be more efficient, the ZB chains were set free to be totally commercial. The YA Chain was renamed 'National Radio'. The YC chain was renamed 'Concert FM'.

          This is because the new medium of FM made Classical Music so much better…

          (Typical that our later barbaric idiots would recommend taking Classical Music off FM…)

          Next, our stupid Enterprise Directors asked bloody marketers how to improve their market share, because that had suddenly become the one important factor.

          Quality of content no longer mattered – only the number of people listening mattered, according to commercial advertising morons who had by now been put in charge of everything.

          So they paid out heaps of money to moronic commercial consultants, who told them that they needed corporate culture and pride in their corporation. The Name of their Corporation was 'RADIO NEW ZEALAND' and that had to be repeated as loudly and as often as possible. So they paid out heaps for the dumb advice that 'National Radio' should be thenceforth called 'RADIO NEW ZEALAND – NATIONAL', and that 'Concert FM' should thenceforth be called 'RADIO NEW ZEALAND – CONCERT'

          These utterly dumb names had far too many syllables, were far too long, so recently our dumb enterprise paid out yet more of our tax-payers' money to get the obvious advice that the names were too long, and RNZ should replace the long mouthfuls.. So we now have 'RNZ- National', and 'RNZ – Concert'

          The whole thing is sickening, to my mind. The original names were shorter and better. A lot of money was wasted on brainless marketers.

          I would say that the National Party should be forced to change its name, not National Radio.

          I would also ban advertising on National Radio. No longer would we have to listen to National Radio mimicking its inferiors by advertising its own programmes after every news break. Nor would we have to suffer them needlessly advertising NZ On Air, as if that is also a Corporation that desperately needs its image boosted.

          When the Revolution comes, the dumb-arsed Marketers should be first to go up against the wall. After them, the dumb-arsed Corp Directors who marshalled the whole utter farce.
          • Jum 10.1.1.1.1

            17 June 2020 at 10:36 am

            Thank you all very much for your replies. I've seen the ads on tv pre election showing two utes one red, one blue with the voice over preferring the blue one, etc. It's so devious and surely diminishes trust in national.
          • Morrissey 10.1.1.1.2

            17 June 2020 at 10:56 am

            Very good summary, my friend. In Vino, veritas, indeed.

            The marketers who came up with the idea of tagging everything with "RNZ" were perhaps the same people who came up with the idea for Cadbury's to append the label "Dairy Milk" to as many of their chocolate bars as possible: Caramello becomes "Dairy Milk Caramello", etc.

            Perhaps the most egregious of the RNZ campaigns was the condescending and cringe-inducing "Radio New Zealand, Sounds Like Us" one of a decade ago. The public backlash to it was immense.
          • roblogic 10.1.1.1.3

            17 June 2020 at 11:25 am

            RNZ – a meaningless corporate logo

            Radio NZ – better, but stodgy, perhaps doesn't reflect the variety of media it offers

            NatRad – cool, military sounding, radical

            What about "Aotea Reo"? Too soon?
11. Descendant Of Smith 11

    16 June 2020 at 4:15 pm

    lol Can't help but think of those headlines National introduced a program called "Building Blue" across the public service. Didn't see Jerry getting upset about that.

    "The Ministry of Social Development is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to change its workers from red to blue. It has hired consulting firm Human Synergistics to introduce a programme of culture change called Building Blue."

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/better-business/68494982/msd-spends-taxpayer-dollars-on-workplace-change
    • Drowsy M. Kram 11.1

      16 June 2020 at 5:14 pm

      Gerry's tanty is consistent with the ideological plans/initiatives of National party politicians to run down the capacity and capability of NZ's public service (expertise, health, education et al.) to the benefit of private businesses ('providers').

      Public-private 'partnerships' my arse.

      "Private hospitals have issued a veiled threat to the Health Ministry, warning they might not be on hand to reduce the backlog of surgeries cancelled under lockdown."
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300005587/coronavirus-surgeries-on-the-line-as-private-hospitals-war-with-dhbs
12. peter sim 12

    16 June 2020 at 6:42 pm

    Gerry does not care how idiotic he sounds, (or looks, ( barging through airport security doors).

    Talk about arrogant self entitlement. does anyone remember his Finland knowledge.

    Long may brownlee remain the natz pr spokesclown.
13. Richard@Down South 13

    16 June 2020 at 9:48 pm

    Do you think itd be worth using FYI to ask Bridges at what stage of the pandemic would have National looked at going into lock down, and what professional medical advice had they been given? I bet it’d be interesting
14. Incognito 14

    16 June 2020 at 10:03 pm

    Mr Brownlee, I trade you this: https://www.national.org.nz/mandatory_quarantining_at_border

    I tried to follow you, but I got stopped by security settings.
    • roblogic 14.1

      17 June 2020 at 11:29 am

      Well, Gerry is experienced with dodging security (and failing)

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