Ardern has words for Trump and Turnbull

Written By: - Date published: 8:16 am, November 13th, 2017 - 67 comments
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Good to see the PM standing up to Donald Trump’s idiocy.

As part of his ongoing display of the most juvenile behaviour ever shown by a US president he has recently posted this tweet:

Ardern’s response was direct.

From Radio New Zealand:

On North Korea, Ms Ardern has echoed previous New Zealand leaders in emphasising the need for dialogue.

“Our position on North Korea remains absolutely the same.

“It does not change depending on what tweets are issued on any given day,” Ms Ardern said, referring to the latest jibes traded by US President Donald Trump and North Korea.

“It’s an important matter of regional security that we continue to use dialogue and pursue a de-escalation of the situation.”

And she is upping her language for Malcolm Turnbull and the festering sore that is Manus Island.

From the Australian:

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has blasted Australia’s handling of the refugee crisis on Manus Island as unacceptable as she seeks another meeting with Malcolm Turnbull on the issue.

Ms Ardern has continued to push New Zealand’s offer to accept 150 refugees and asylum seekers from Australia’s offshore detention centres since her first face- to-face meeting with her Australian counterpart in Sydney a week ago. She wants a more substantive conversation when both leaders reach the Philippines for the East Asia Summit this week.

“We made the offer because we saw a great need. No matter what label you put on it there is absolute need and there is harm being done,” she said on Sunday.

“I see the human face of this and I see the need and the role New Zealand needs to play. I think it’s clear that we don’t see what’s happening there as acceptable, that’s why the offer’s there.”

It’s her strongest statement to date against the unfolding situation.

It is great to have a New Zealand leader saying it like it is.

67 comments on “Ardern has words for Trump and Turnbull ”

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  1. ScottGN 1
    13 November 2017 at 8:34 am

    After a decade of National’s utterly spineless foreign policy settings it’s going to take some getting used to to have a PM that’s prepared to put an opinion out there.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 1.1
      13 November 2017 at 8:51 am

      It’s making the authoritarian followers nervous.

      “She’s showing strong leadership! But she’s a Socialist! Help! I’m becoming a Socialist!”

  2. Zorb6 2
    13 November 2017 at 8:39 am

    Not a good idea to be grandstanding ,especially on Manus Island.Let the Australians deal with it,and get on with addressing domestic priorities.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 2.1
      13 November 2017 at 8:46 am

      Good thing this is one of our domestic priorities then eh: “being able to live with ourselves”.

    • Brendan 2.2
      13 November 2017 at 10:35 am

      “Let the Australians deal with it.”

      But they’re not dealing with it. They are washing their hands, and hoping it will disappear. But they forget they are actually dealing with people’s lives. The lack of moral compass the Australian government has on this issue is frightening.

  3. BM 3
    13 November 2017 at 8:46 am

    The golden child needs to pull her head in and show a bit of nous.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 3.1
      13 November 2017 at 8:49 am

      😆

      Follow the leader. Australia’s leader.

      BM, the wrong side of history just called and asked if someone could get you to back off a bit. They like you, just not in that way, ok?

    • mickysavage 3.2
      13 November 2017 at 8:54 am

      Nous has worked really well so far.

    • The Other Mike 3.3
      13 November 2017 at 9:05 am

      Case of mind over matter, eh BM?

      You don’t mind and they don’t matter – to you.

    • tracey 3.4
      13 November 2017 at 9:56 am

      Cos Nats stance worked well… international fees for kiwi students in OZ… deportations and so forth. It is going to be hard for some Nat voters to watch a leader, well, leading.

    • marty mars 3.5
      13 November 2017 at 10:09 am

      Yep weakness is always rewarded isn’t it bm.

    • mac1 3.6
      13 November 2017 at 1:07 pm

      BM, ‘nous’ is not a contraction of ‘not us”!

      We are there because we are also citizens of the world. Just as some like to criticise North Korea, and whoever else is not the flavour of the month with the US, so we criticise even our friends if they need it.

      Morality is outside of friendship.

  4. mauī 4
    13 November 2017 at 9:07 am

    I have to say on the news last night, she came across as quite war hawkish on North Korea. The goal seemed to be to pull N Korea into line. That’s the price of being part of the western alliance though I spose.

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/11/what-donald-trump-s-asia-pacific-dream-means-for-nz.html

    • mickysavage 4.1
      13 November 2017 at 9:36 am

      They have nukes and they keep threatening to use them …

      • mauī 4.1.1
        13 November 2017 at 10:37 am

        If your country had been starved for 60 years, and had a superpower camped on your border for 60 years who liked to play regular wargames, then it’s kind of understandable.

        • marty mars 4.1.1.1
          13 November 2017 at 10:48 am

          They get on with China. Are you a supporter of north Korea?

          • mauī 4.1.1.1.1
            13 November 2017 at 3:42 pm

            I’m supportive of their right to not feel threatened and to not have to be at war still 60 years after it ended.

            • marty mars 4.1.1.1.1.1
              13 November 2017 at 3:59 pm

              Cool, so you obviously oppose their dictator and his heinous crimes against the good people of north Korea. Man the fear those people must feel is unimaginable unless you lived on the wrong side of the wall in Berlin I spose. So much suffering and so unnecessary – I hope they don’t have any more famines because all their resources are being used to compensate you know who for you know what, via nukes. ffs size doesn’t matter – pity trump doesn’t get that too.

              • mauī …
                13 November 2017 at 5:54 pm

                That’s what I’m saying is that we’ve put the Berlin wall in place in Korea and made the country more isolated and more aggressive through our own actions.

                Also our lens on the country is totally biased as it’s tainted by the corporate media view that has always painted them as an enemy, so I don’t think we really have much of an idea on the true goings on in that country.

                I’m anti dictators like the next person and you know it always ends up well when the west gets involved with these so called despots – Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad. 3 ruined countries now. Why don’t we learn from our mistakes and give them some breathing room for a start and try to understand why their government might be the way it is.

                • marty mars …
                  13 November 2017 at 6:47 pm

                  Yeah I hear you.

                  I don’t know why Korea ended up the way it is I wish things were different. I have zero love of dictators and bullies on any side.

                  I don’t know what freedom is for other peoples or empowerment or happiness. I know what it is for me but that is only so useful in understanding other peoples and cultures.

                  Of all the stupid ways humans will kill themselves off – shooting and bombing one another has got to be the thickest and most pathetic.

                  I wish we could call the occupants of an interplanetary craft for help.

                • Brigid …
                  14 November 2017 at 2:06 pm

                  ” 3 ruined countries now.”
                  Who ruined them?
                  If Syria is so ruined why do you suppose the UN says Syrians are returning?
                  “According to a recent statement from Andrej Mahecic, a spokesman for the UN High Commissioner for Refugees, an estimated 440,000 displaced Syrians who remained in the country have returned to their homes since the year began. In addition, 31,000 refugees in neighboring countries also returned to Syria in the first half of the year, with 260,000 having returned to Syria from other nations since 2015.”
                  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-05/over-500000-syrian-refugees-return-government-controlled-areas-syria

              • Brigid …
                14 November 2017 at 10:34 am

                Heinous crimes like free housing, healthcare, education. Yep it’s real rough.
                Why don’t you talk to people who live there, or have visited recently?
                That is, of course, unless you prefer to keep repeating fake news from the msm.

                • marty mars …
                  14 November 2017 at 10:42 am

                  Have you been there? What did you see and hear from those living there? Who did you talk to? Did you leave your government minder at any point?

                  • Brigid …
                    14 November 2017 at 1:53 pm

                    I know people who have been there in the last couple of months.
                    I know a person who organises tours around any part of the country one wants to go to. A Korean tour guide always accompanies tourists and does not restrict anybody from seeing anything or taking photos anywhere, accept military bases.
                    However, you will be fined heavily for littering.
                    It’s a very safe country generally. Damned site safer than the US from what tourists say.
                    Koreans generally don’t discuss politics, they don’t feel any need to.
                    Their education facilities would make you drool with envy.
                    But they are pretty pissed off at the sanctions which make maintaining their very flash medical equipment difficult. As they say, it hurts the people who are most vulnerable.
                    North Koreans are pretty happy people and just don’t understand the west’s animosity and why the west believes the rhetoric that the MSM spews.
                    And just why the hell shouldn’t North Korea have nuclear weapons? Israel has.
                    And considering the US practically leveled every major city in the country during the Korean War I think they have every damn right to arm themselves to the teeth.

                    Now show me the quote from Kim Jong-un where he threatens the US, or any country.

                    You really should go have a look.

                    Now. Where do you get your information from?

                    • marty mars …
                      14 November 2017 at 3:00 pm

                      Well done for having a friend that has just been there. I have zero desire to go anywhere.

                      Good that you love their leader. I wish only good things for the people that live there.

                      My information on what is happening there is sourced through western media and some alternative left wing media.

      • One Two 4.1.2
        13 November 2017 at 12:06 pm

        What’s is the point exactly?

        Threats of using weapons are made on a daily basis, around the planet

        Actual use of weapons occurs around the planet on a daily basis..

        NK have not used nuclear weapons nor do they regularly use weapons against multiple nations..

        USA does all of the above

        Bluster should not even make the ‘news’…

        But it creates fear…don’t buy into it…

        Suckers buy into the ‘drama’…

  5. BM 5
    13 November 2017 at 9:15 am

    It’s fairly obvious to anyone with an ounce of intelligence what this Manus Island stuff is all about.
    This is a partnership between the Australian and New Zealand Labour parties to undermine the Australian Liberal government.

  6. Wayne 6
    13 November 2017 at 9:21 am

    On North Korea, Bill English said the tweets were not helpful and that New Zealand preferred constructive dialogue, so no real change there.

    Yes, the PM has now been a bit more forthright in her language on Manus Island, but what will actually flow from it? Even in the quote she simply reiterated the same offer as was already on the table from last Sunday, which was in fact the same offer as under the previous government. Perhaps she is hoping that her words will lead to an earlier acceptance than might otherwise be the case.

    But the main question, given the expectation of this article, is she actually going to do anything more?

    Or will her big foreign policy move (if there is one at all) be in a quite different area? Presumably something in climate change.

    • Psycho Milt 6.1
      13 November 2017 at 9:43 am

      Yes, the PM has now been a bit more forthright in her language on Manus Island, but what will actually flow from it?

      Being able to sleep at night? Retaining a little self-respect? Those strike me as pretty good things. I do appreciate that a National Party PM would be untroubled by such pangs of conscience though.

    • tracey 6.2
      13 November 2017 at 9:58 am

      Is she just talk you mean? If she is just talk with Australia we are no worse off than under the prior 9 years. I am hoping for better of course.

    • Anne 6.3
      13 November 2017 at 10:19 am

      If Jacinda is continuing along the same path that was trodden by National – and she appears to be – then it’s a good thing because it is the right path. I guess the hope is that PM Turnbull and his advisers will eventually change their minds and let the 150 refugees come to NZ. To keep pressing the issue is about all that can be done.

      Her big foreign policy will almost certainly be related to Climate Change as she regards it as the most pressing issue facing the world today. I couldn’t agree more.

      • veutoviper 6.3.1
        13 November 2017 at 12:01 pm

        Climate change and climate change refugees was the subject of her first appearance on the international stage at the formal APEC meetings in Vietnam – her participation in a panel discussion

        I have yet to track down a video of the full discussion but here is a short excerpt from Youtube *

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqS-ztMVk9Q

        * Note: Youtube is not just music etc
        I have been frustrated in trying to track down recordings/videos of Ardern’s speeches etc as the Labour Party website does not seem to archive these at present. Some appear on JA’s Facebook page but not all.

        A much better techo than I am advised me that most of these are in fact archived on Youtube – probably the last place I would have looked! And it turns out to be the case.

        I now search using, for example, “youtube Jacinda Ardern climate change” and up pops lots of videos and links.
        You can then use filters like country, date or similar.

  7. Puckish Rogue 7
    13 November 2017 at 9:37 am

    Talk is cheap but what will she actually achieve?

    • Psycho Milt 7.1
      13 November 2017 at 9:45 am

      What will the Prime Minister of New Zealand achieve on matters of US/PRK confrontation and Australian immigration policy? I’m picking “Not much.” Were you under the impression things might be otherwise?

      • tracey 7.1.1
        13 November 2017 at 10:00 am

        You’d think they would be more receptive to empty words vis a vis Australia, after 9 years of sagely nodding and agreeing.

    • tracey 7.2
      13 November 2017 at 9:59 am

      PR in fairness the benchmark is the last Govt, so if nothing changes we are no worse off. However we are worse off in relation to Australia than we were in 2008.

    • BM 7.3
      13 November 2017 at 10:11 am

      Probably New Zealanders requiring a visa to travel and work in Australia.

      If Australia can’t trust Ardern and labour to not turn New Zealand into a backdoor for illegal immigrants trying to get into Australia, then they’ll shut that door.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 7.3.1
        13 November 2017 at 10:17 am

        If they once were illegal immigrants, they aren’t now. Now they are refugees, and the Liberal Party made them that way.

        Personal responsibility means it’s all Labour’s fault. Loser BM speaks with forked tongue.

        • Wayne 7.3.1.1
          13 November 2017 at 12:33 pm

          Draco
          Would you really terminate CER and access of NZers literally for their whole life on the issue of the Manus Island refugees.
          Even with the current rules all New Zealanders have the right to shift to Australia, work, buy houses. They don’t need visas and with no time limit on how long they can stay.

      • Draco T Bastard 7.3.2
        13 November 2017 at 10:48 am

        Probably New Zealanders requiring a visa to travel and work in Australia.

        I’m fine with that. If the Australians want to drop CER, and all indications are that they do, then we may as well do so.

      • Delia 7.3.3
        13 November 2017 at 11:26 am

        I think Ardern covered that one, but I cannot be bothered telling you because you are to one eyed.

      • Paul Campbell 7.3.4
        13 November 2017 at 11:42 am

        When global warming kicks in and the edges of Australia get all crispy we’re going to see a massive influx of Aussies, more than we could ever handle, best to nip that in the bud now

        • Kevin 7.3.4.1
          13 November 2017 at 11:50 am

          The Great Barrier Reef is telling them it has already kicked in.

        • tc 7.3.4.2
          13 November 2017 at 2:40 pm

          They’ve an entire temperate state of their own to move to. Tasmania.

          Then there’s country Victoria for those who like the large flat brown bit to live in if the temperature/lack of green’s an issue.

      • tracey 7.3.5
        13 November 2017 at 12:13 pm

        It’s been closing for quite a while BM, or have you been sleeping through the last 9 years? each time Aussie does something detrimental we get told we need to talk to them etc etc… and what have they learned? We just roll over so guess what? They did more stuff…

  8. Angel Fish 8
    13 November 2017 at 12:45 pm

    Trump didn’t sign the TPP deal Jacinda!

    Finger waving at the overtly juvenile behaviour of Trump isn’t required.
    Everyone can see the juvenile behaviour for what it is.
    But standing up for the country and not letting it get ripped off is crucial and could affect generations to come.
    Don’t be so eager to give easy credits to the PM.

  9. Ad 9
    13 November 2017 at 4:31 pm

    Since they are refugees of Australia having first landed in Australia, presumably they are claiming asylum under UNHCR. Jacinda Ardern would be more useful to the Australian government if she led a proper debate on how Australia and New Zealand can lead the debate. Gain a little leverage through leadership. Right now she just looks like a powerless supplicant.

    In her comments about how Australia faces real and large refugee issues, I see Ardern acknowledging that the international refugee regime is failing Australian national interests; the interests of the international community; and the interests of refugees themselves.

    I also see her as implicitly acknowledging that there is an unreasonable burden on destination states, which also has the perverse consequence of promoting people smuggling.

    Australia has one of the strongest track records in promoting the new approaches that are now required, including intervening to prevent atrocities, enhancing protection in regions affected by displacement, and combatting people smuggling. Wish I could say the same as much of New Zealand.

    What will send the strongest signal to people smugglers, wiile retaining reasonable human right engagement? From the point of view of the smuggling economy, every advantage their clients get is simply advertising of the smugglers’ success record. So they get to drum up more profit.

    I want to see Ardern step up beyond the current media cycle of emotion and up to something that works with Turnbull’s government on rejecting the status quo about smuggling people.

    There is support for reform across the political spectrum in Australia, unlike in Europe. And Canberra has already demonstrated its willingness to reject the status quo, albeit controversially.

    Ardern should take the lead jointly with Turnbull before she is reduced to a virtue-signalling palimpsest with no leverage whatsoever, at which point her credibility to actually lead rather than react will disappear.

  10. Sparky 10
    13 November 2017 at 5:10 pm

    Well I have no time for this CPTPP shit Jacinda so please get Labour to dump it….thanks…..

  11. Tanz 11
    16 November 2017 at 4:26 pm

    How about helping the homeless etc in NZ first. That three million would have helped many here in need. Ardern is showing arrogance by badgering Australia re this, and not five minutes into the job. She is out of step with Kiwis also, if social media and print opinion in Granny Herald is anything to go by. Typical ‘we know best’ stance from Labour, but it’s only going to lose votes and favour, which is already 10 seats behind National’s popularity. I knew this govt would be a shambles, and it certainly is. Virtue signalling and warm fuzzies, but no depth or common sense. Bring back BIll, NZ deserves much better. Three years or less…and counting.

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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Worst poll result for a new Government in MMP history
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    2 days ago

  • Pinning down climate change's role in extreme weather
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    2 days ago

  • Serving at Seymour's pleasure.
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  • Webworm LA Pop-Up
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  • “Feel good” school is out
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    PolitikBy Richard Harman
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  • 6 Months in, surely our Report Card is “Ignored all warnings: recommend dismissal ASAP”?
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  • Bread, and how it gets buttered
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Why Tory Whanau has the lowest approval rating in the country
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    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago

  • Justice for Gaza?
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    3 days ago

  • If there has been any fiddling with Pharmac’s funding, we can count on Paula to figure out the fis...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago

  • FastTrackWatch – The case for the Government’s Fast Track Bill
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Bernard’s pick 'n' mix for Monday, April 29
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell on Iran killing its rappers, and searching for the invisible Dr. Reti
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    3 days ago

  • Auckland Rail Electrification 10 years old
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    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    3 days ago

  • Coalition's dirge of austerity and uncertainty is driving the economy into a deeper recession
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Disability Funding or Tax Cuts.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Of the Goodness of Tolkien’s Eru
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    A Phuulish FellowBy strda221
    3 days ago

  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #17
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    Skeptical Science
    4 days ago

  • Pastor Who Abused People, Blames People
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    4 days ago

  • Vic Uni shows how under threat free speech is
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Winston remembers Gettysburg.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • 25
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Fact Brief – Is Antarctica gaining land ice?
    Skeptical Science is partnering with Gigafact to produce fact briefs — bite-sized fact checks of trending claims. This fact brief was written by Sue Bin Park in collaboration with members from our Skeptical Science team. You can submit claims you think need checking via the tipline. Is Antarctica gaining land ice? ...
    Skeptical Science
    5 days ago

  • Policing protests.
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    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    5 days ago

  • Open letter to Hon Paul Goldsmith
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: FastTrackWatch – The Case for the Government’s Fast Track Bill
    Many criticisms are being made of the Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill, including by this writer. But as with everything in politics, every story has two sides, and both deserve attention. It’s important to understand what the Government is trying to achieve and its arguments for such a bold reform. ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    5 days ago

  • Luxon gets out his butcher’s knife – briefly
    Peter Dunne writes –  The great nineteenth British Prime Minister, William Gladstone, once observed that “the first essential for a Prime Minister is to be a good butcher.” When a later British Prime Minister, Harold Macmillan, sacked a third of his Cabinet in July 1962, in what became ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago

  • More tax for less
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago

  • Real News vs Fake News.
    We all know something’s not right with our elections. The spread of misinformation, people being targeted with soundbites and emotional triggers that ignore the facts, even the truth, and influence their votes.The use of technology to produce deep fakes. How can you tell if something is real or not? Can ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago

  • Another way to roll
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago

  • Simon Clark: The climate lies you'll hear this year
    This video includes conclusions of the creator climate scientist Dr. Simon Clark. It is presented to our readers as an informed perspective. Please see video description for references (if any). This year you will be lied to! Simon Clark helps prebunk some misleading statements you'll hear about climate. The video includes ...
    Skeptical Science
    5 days ago

  • Cutting the Public Service
    It is all very well cutting the backrooms of public agencies but it may compromise the frontlines. One of the frustrations of the Productivity Commission’s 2017 review of universities is that while it observed that their non-academic staff were increasing faster than their academic staff, it did not bother to ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    6 days ago

  • Luxon’s demoted ministers might take comfort from the British politician who bounced back after th...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    6 days ago

  • This is how I roll over
    1. Which of these would you not expect to read in The Waikato Invader?a. Luxon is here to do business, don’t you worry about thatb. Mr KPI expects results, and you better believe itc. This decisive man of action is getting me all hot and excitedd. Melissa Lee is how ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    6 days ago

  • The Waitangi Tribunal is not “a roving Commission”…
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago

  • Is Oranga Tamariki guilty of neglect?
    Lindsay Mitchell writes – One of reasons Oranga Tamariki exists is to prevent child neglect. But could the organisation itself be guilty of the same? Oranga Tamariki’s statistics show a decrease in the number and age of children in care. “There are less children ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    6 days ago

  • Three Strikes saw lower reoffending
    David Farrar writes: Graeme Edgeler wrote in 2017: In the first five years after three strikes came into effect 5248 offenders received a ‘first strike’ (that is, a “stage-1 conviction” under the three strikes sentencing regime), and 68 offenders received a ‘second strike’. In the five years prior to ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago

  • Luxon’s ruthless show of strength is perfect for our angry era
    Bryce Edwards writes – Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has surprised everyone with his ruthlessness in sacking two of his ministers from their crucial portfolios. Removing ministers for poor performance after only five months in the job just doesn’t normally happen in politics. That’s refreshing and will be extremely ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago

  • 'Lacks attention to detail and is creating double-standards.'
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago

  • One Night Only!
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    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    6 days ago

  • What did Melissa Lee do?
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    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    6 days ago

  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #17 2024
    Open access notables Ice acceleration and rotation in the Greenland Ice Sheet interior in recent decades, Løkkegaard et al., Communications Earth & Environment: In the past two decades, mass loss from the Greenland ice sheet has accelerated, partly due to the speedup of glaciers. However, uncertainty in speed derived from satellite products ...
    Skeptical Science
    7 days ago

  • Maori Party (with “disgust”) draws attention to Chhour’s race after the High Court rules on Wa...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    7 days ago

  • Who’s Going Up The Media Mountain?
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    7 days ago

  • “That's how I roll”
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    1 week ago

  • “Comity” versus the rule of law
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago

  • Streamlining Building Consent Changes
    The Government is making it easier for minor changes to be made to a building consent so building a home is easier and more affordable, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says.      “The coalition Government is focused on making it easier and cheaper to build homes so we can ...
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    5 hours ago

  • Minister acknowledges passing of Sir Robert Martin (KNZM)
    New Zealand lost a true legend when internationally renowned disability advocate Sir Robert Martin (KNZM) passed away at his home in Whanganui last night, Disabilities Issues Minister Louise Upston says. “Our Government’s thoughts are with his wife Lynda, family and community, those he has worked with, the disability community in ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago

  • Speech to New Zealand Institute of International Affairs, Parliament – Annual Lecture: Challenges ...
    Good evening –   Before discussing the challenges and opportunities facing New Zealand’s foreign policy, we’d like to first acknowledge the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs. You have contributed to debates about New Zealand foreign policy over a long period of time, and we thank you for hosting us.  ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago

  • Accelerating airport security lines
    From today, passengers travelling internationally from Auckland Airport will be able to keep laptops and liquids in their carry-on bags for security screening thanks to new technology, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Creating a more efficient and seamless travel experience is important for holidaymakers and businesses, enabling faster movement through ...
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    18 hours ago

  • Community hui to talk about kina barrens
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    24 hours ago

  • Kiwi exporters win as NZ-EU FTA enters into force
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    1 day ago

  • Mining resurgence a welcome sign
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    1 day ago

  • Ō-Rākau Remembrance Bill passes first reading
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    2 days ago

  • Government to boost public EV charging network
    Energy Minister Simeon Brown has announced 25 new high-speed EV charging hubs along key routes between major urban centres and outlined the Government’s plan to supercharge New Zealand’s EV infrastructure.  The hubs will each have several chargers and be capable of charging at least four – and up to 10 ...
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    2 days ago

  • Residential Property Managers Bill to not progress
    The coalition Government will not proceed with the previous Government’s plans to regulate residential property managers, Housing Minister Chris Bishop says. “I have written to the Chairperson of the Social Services and Community Committee to inform him that the Government does not intend to support the Residential Property Managers Bill ...
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    2 days ago

  • Independent review into disability support services
    The Government has announced an independent review into the disability support system funded by the Ministry of Disabled People – Whaikaha. Disability Issues Minister Louise Upston says the review will look at what can be done to strengthen the long-term sustainability of Disability Support Services to provide disabled people and ...
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    2 days ago

  • Justice Minister updates UN on law & order plan
    Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith has attended the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva and outlined the Government’s plan to restore law and order. “Speaking to the United Nations Human Rights Council provided us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while responding to issues and ...
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    2 days ago

  • Ending emergency housing motels in Rotorua
    The Government and Rotorua Lakes Council are committed to working closely together to end the use of contracted emergency housing motels in Rotorua. Associate Minister of Housing (Social Housing) Tama Potaka says the Government remains committed to ending the long-term use of contracted emergency housing motels in Rotorua by the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Trade Minister travels to Riyadh, OECD, and Dubai
    Trade Minister Todd McClay heads overseas today for high-level trade talks in the Gulf region, and a key OECD meeting in Paris. Mr McClay will travel to Riyadh to meet with counterparts from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC). “New Zealand’s goods and services exports to the Gulf region ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Education priorities focused on lifting achievement
    Education Minister Erica Stanford has outlined six education priorities to deliver a world-leading education system that sets Kiwi kids up for future success. “I’m putting ambition, achievement and outcomes at the heart of our education system. I want every child to be inspired and engaged in their learning so they ...
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    3 days ago

  • NZTA App first step towards digital driver licence
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    3 days ago

  • Supporting whānau out of emergency housing
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Tribute to Dave O'Sullivan
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    3 days ago

  • Speech – Eid al-Fitr
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Government saves access to medicines
    Associate Health Minister David Seymour has announced Pharmac’s largest ever budget of $6.294 billion over four years, fixing a $1.774 billion fiscal cliff.    “Access to medicines is a crucial part of many Kiwis’ lives. We’ve committed to a budget allocation of $1.774 billion over four years so Kiwis are ...
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    3 days ago

  • Pharmac Chair appointed
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    4 days ago

  • Taking action on Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder
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    5 days ago

  • New sports complex opens in Kaikohe
    Regional Development Minister Shane Jones today attended the official opening of Kaikohe’s new $14.7 million sports complex. “The completion of the Kaikohe Multi Sports Complex is a fantastic achievement for the Far North,” Mr Jones says. “This facility not only fulfils a long-held dream for local athletes, but also creates ...
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    5 days ago

  • Diplomacy needed more than ever
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters’ engagements in Türkiye this week underlined the importance of diplomacy to meet growing global challenges.    “Returning to the Gallipoli Peninsula to represent New Zealand at Anzac commemorations was a sombre reminder of the critical importance of diplomacy for de-escalating conflicts and easing tensions,” Mr Peters ...
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    5 days ago

  • Anzac Commemorative Address, Buttes New British Cemetery Belgium
    Ambassador Millar, Burgemeester, Vandepitte, Excellencies, military representatives, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen – good morning and welcome to this sacred Anzac Day dawn service.  It is an honour to be here on behalf of the Government and people of New Zealand at Buttes New British Cemetery, Polygon Wood – a deeply ...
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    6 days ago

  • Anzac Commemorative Address – NZ National Service, Chunuk Bair
    Distinguished guests -   It is an honour to return once again to this site which, as the resting place for so many of our war-dead, has become a sacred place for generations of New Zealanders.   Our presence here and at the other special spaces of Gallipoli is made ...
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    7 days ago

  • Anzac Commemorative Address – Dawn Service, Gallipoli, Türkiye
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  • PM announces changes to portfolios
    Paul Goldsmith will take on responsibility for the Media and Communications portfolio, while Louise Upston will pick up the Disability Issues portfolio, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon announced today. “Our Government is relentlessly focused on getting New Zealand back on track. As issues change in prominence, I plan to adjust Ministerial ...
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  • New catch limits for unique fishery areas
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  • Minister welcomes hydrogen milestone
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  • Urgent changes to system through first RMA Amendment Bill
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  • Overseas decommissioning models considered
    Overseas models for regulating the oil and gas sector, including their decommissioning regimes, are being carefully scrutinised as a potential template for New Zealand’s own sector, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. The Coalition Government is focused on rebuilding investor confidence in New Zealand’s energy sector as it looks to strengthen ...
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  • Release of North Island Severe Weather Event Inquiry
    Emergency Management and Recovery Minister Mark Mitchell has today released the Report of the Government Inquiry into the response to the North Island Severe Weather Events. “The report shows that New Zealand’s emergency management system is not fit-for-purpose and there are some significant gaps we need to address,” Mr Mitchell ...
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