Bad trips

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1. ieuan 1

   19 January 2009 at 1:20 pm

   Yep, I saw Paul Henry in action this morning on breakfast and it was really really bad, almost as bad as their new set.

   I wonder if over at Kiwiblog, DPF is going to offer up some of the ‘best’ comments from the Helen Clark fall to contrast with what his rag-tag bunch of nut jobs are saying about John Key’s broken arm.

   Still Key managed to shake the hand of 150 rugby players with a broken arm…… he must be made of pretty tough stuff.
2. bobo 2

   19 January 2009 at 1:53 pm

   He seems to be handling it well, doesn’t look so bad hidden under his jacket. Must be a pain in the arse for shaking hands and signing documents though.
3. Brett Dale 3

   19 January 2009 at 2:24 pm

   [lprent: Brett hereby demonstrates how to be a idiot in public and earns a ban for a week]

   Perhaps John Key needs a decent cup of coffee to get his morning going, just as long as he doesn’t go down to Invercargill for one, they might think he is Israeli and not serve him.

   So So So, here at the standard, you guys pride yourself for sticking up for human rights, you pride yourself for being activists, you pride yourself for being against Apartheid, but the silence here is deafening, and quite sickening actually.

   How is this not Apartheid??? How can this be legal in 2009 in New Zealand?

   The silence from the likes of Keith Locke and John Minto is deafening. Can you imagine what would happen if an Israeli cafe owner refused service to two Muslim woman from Gaza, various so called peace groups would be protesting outside 24/7, chanting SHAME SHAME

   Instead, they say nothing, they should be ashamed of themselves for their silence.

   So call human right’s blogs such as this blog are normally jumping on stories when there is injustice for woman or minority groups, on this occasion they say nothing, that is so hypocritical, how can they say they are for equal rights and peace, here is a man kicking out two woman because they are Israelis , its disgusting and hopefully this cafe will be closed down shortly.

   I guess you can be a bigoted racist pig as long as your a Muslim, welcome to the world of peace protesters/human rights activists and left wing bloggers.

   He might as well had a sign that said No Jews.

   I wonder how many posts here there would of been had it been reversed.

   This is New Zealand, everybody has the right to be served no matter what Nationally you are.

   Hypocrites of the year award to the standard.

   [lprent: Bullshit. All businesses and organizations reserve the rights to serve who they wish to. Look at our Policy for an example.

   Most civil libertarians look at public access or legal issues. They tend not to look at individual bigotry. If they did then you’d have been in prison long ago.

   Now just to demonstrate exactly what restricted access to private property means (I suspect that you will not get it otherwise), you are banned for a week.

   I know it is illogical in your frame of reference but I don’t like attacks by the unthinking on the people who run this site. Sort of like someone watching people getting bombed to hell does to other people.

   If you personally wish to object to this, you may protest – just not on this site.

   I think that covers all of the points in your useless argument]
4. George.com 4

   19 January 2009 at 2:25 pm

   According to Rumpelstiltskin Farrar someone is gloating here about Keys fall:
   “I will point out Helen was not actually injured, and it is quite one thing to laugh at a video of someone slipping up without serious injury and to gloat over someone actually breaking their arm.”

   Am I missing something?
5. Chris S 5

   19 January 2009 at 2:47 pm

   For god sakes, Dale, calm down.

   Not sure why The Standard needs to make a comment on every issue you deem important, or why you think they somehow represent the left wing in general.

   For your information, it’s NOT legal in 2009. The NZ Bill of Rights Act ensures that. Although we may understand the reasons the cafe owners decided to take these things into their own hands, it’s not legal and to most left-liberals it’s not acceptable.

   Perhaps nobody asked Locke what he thinks about the situation. He’s an MP in the government that represents NZ citizens and therefore answerable to you. Why don’t you email him and ask, and you can let us all know on your blog.
6. illuminatedtiger 6

   19 January 2009 at 2:48 pm

   He was at the ASB Show Grounds for Chinese New Year celebrations, and I can’t help but think perhaps Buddha wanted to have a go at him – afterall the Buddha has no love for the greedy.
7. Tim Ellis 7

   19 January 2009 at 2:53 pm

   Settle down Brett. I don’t see how this is a story that the Standard has to write about. None of the Standard’s writers seem to have been behind this. If you want to draw a comparison, then I think there are legitimate parallels between John Minto protesting against an Israeli tennis player and the Invercargill cafe owner. But have a bit of proportion here, for goodness’ sakes. It was an isolated incident involving a probably bigoted person from Invercargill. His actions were pretty offensive to most people, and he’ll probably suffer some business consequences for that. Let’s not make it out to be the end of the world.

   SP, I don’t see a problem with having a bit of a laugh at people who have minor accidents on camera. That’s what slapstick humour is about. Let’s not get too precious about it. Helen Clark wasn’t injured at all.
8. Tim Ellis 8

   19 January 2009 at 2:55 pm

   Thanks, IT. It’s good to have that learned and rational perspective on what Buddha would think.
9. Janet 9

   19 January 2009 at 2:57 pm

   Key revealed to the obsequious Noelle on National Radio this morning that being Prime Minister was harder than he thought it would be. He imagined he would just be sitting round making decisions, after being given appropriate advice, and being loved by all.
10. Felix 10

    19 January 2009 at 3:21 pm

    Having had a certain amount of contact with the Buddhist community I, like Tim Ellis, find it hard to believe that Buddha is in the business of “having a go” at people. Even Mr Key.
11. Whero 11

    19 January 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Its actually my fault The Goober fell and broke his arm – I gave him a piece of chewing gum as he was about to walk off.
12. Kerry 12

    19 January 2009 at 5:20 pm

    well im sorry but im gonna have to say it HAHAHAHAHAHAHA JOHN FALLS OVER….HAHAHAHAHA BROKE ARM…AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Gosh…..yes i do feel better now…would feel EVEN better if I had put my foot out in front of him……

    Sorry to let the side down but may as well give the right wing extremists what they want!

    PS The mornings are so much better since i made the change to Sunrise…dont feel like im being blasted with right wing vomit as we were/are subjected to on Breakfast!
13. simon 13

    19 January 2009 at 5:22 pm

    “obsequious Noelle” maybe she’s applied for a job with NATIONAL INC. since she may well be in need of another job once Summer Noelle finishes as that is when her current contract with NatRad (unless they renew) so best not wind up a propective boss.
14. Jum 14

    19 January 2009 at 5:25 pm

    A broken arm is not serious. The slimy love-in crap printed by the Herald that probably will be responsible for another Key fall could result in a lot worse.

    Key is riding for a fatal fall if he really starts to believe the Armstrong, O’Sullivan, Oliver, de Chateau drivel that is being served up. Nero, last night on TV, was an object lesson to us all of having no one willing to say ‘Emperor, You’re wearing no clothes’. Unless you’re Nero’s wife and then it’s best to say ‘I saw nuzzink Herr Colonel’.

    Don’t imagine I’m trying to protect Key. It’s just that he will no doubt drag NZ down with him while he fiddles in the House.

    PS where is the video of Key falling?
15. Rex Widerstrom 15

    19 January 2009 at 5:29 pm

    Whero: Heh heh, touché 😀

    Chris S notes:

    Perhaps nobody asked Locke what he thinks about the situation.

    Good point, and one that goes beyond just this particular situation. I know journos have a “contact book” they work from but when they all seem to have the same book and never think to look beyond it, things get very homogenous and boring.

    It would be great to hear what someone other than Garth McVicar thinks when a crime is committed, for instance, but the journos know he’s good for an inflammatory quote, an easy headline and a quick 500 words before deadline.

    I realise all blogs (including The Standard) are unpaid labours of love, but in the absence of the canvassing of wider opinion in the media, it’d be great to see more proactive reportage of opinion from other than the handful of usual suspects, right across the NZ blogosphere.
16. Kerry 16

    19 January 2009 at 5:31 pm

    OH and we will all be pleased to know that according to the Herald Johns seen 2 specialists today re his broken arm!

    wow weeeee
17. Jum 17

    19 January 2009 at 5:48 pm

    Kerry
    You do need to watch Paul Henry. You do need to complain about his unethical, politically biased behaviour.

    I will be looking at support in mounting a court case against TVNZ if they do not show signs of NZ objectivity over National bias. Any blog comments on all relevant NZ political blogs will be helpful to give a time line of his treatment of Helen Clark and Labour over the last 3 years.

    Have just spotted a shadowy video of his step into the dark side. Why didn’t Henry show that? Broken arm – so what. Any person who had any sense of intelligence would have their minders contact medical support for pain killer medicine. Or is his refusing pain killer a sign that we’re reverting to the rugby ethos of no brain no pain, rugby racing and beer and beat up the wife if we’re losing.

    NZ really is turning feral.
18. Peter Burns 18

    19 January 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Oh please not “feral” just fairy infested. Get hard, what’s a broken arm ,ask Pine Tree as he plays rugby with one. Them were the days before pc softcockism!
19. Tigger 19

    19 January 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Do we really want a PM with bones like a bird? I miss Helen who had bones like steel girders! I swear, nothing could slow that woman down!

    As for refusing to serve Israelis, yes, of course that is wrong, even an Arab like me agrees with that. Far better for anyone seeking to make a statement to tell any pro-Israel businesses that you won’t be spending money there…
20. Lew 20

    19 January 2009 at 6:42 pm

    In fairness to Noelle, her main gig recently has been filling in for yes-man Mora, the bloke who has cultivated his genial good-joker rep by never disagreeing with anyone, left or right or in the middle or from Mars. So a certain obsequeity is perhaps understandable.

    As for Key’s fall – it’s got to be immensely frustrating. The whole country is going to be judging him (initially) on his first hundred days, which are fast running out, and now he’s unable to work as efficiently as he probably needs to.

    For those of you who want to be Mr Schadenfreude, congratulations! You’re not better than the KBR. But deep down, you probably knew that already.

    L
21. Robinsod 21

    19 January 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Lew – I am hugely happy to see JK break his arm and I am also hugely better than the KBR… Just not in your wee liberal middlebrow moral way…
22. Lew 22

    19 January 2009 at 7:03 pm

    Sod: While I hesitate to use the phrase, `separate but equal’ comes to mind. On this issue, anyhow.

    L
23. Peter Burns 23

    19 January 2009 at 7:04 pm

    “Do we really want a PM with bones like a bird? I miss Helen who had bones like steel girders! I swear, nothing could slow that woman down!”

    Peter can and will.
24. Bill 24

    19 January 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Bad Trips belong to us ( Not JK) for three years or so since the electorate swallowed that nasty little C&T pill.

    “Nah!, It’s safe mate. Go on and get it down yer! Make you feel good it will!”

    So, who’s really laughing at whose trip?
25. Anthony 25

    19 January 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Sleep walked into parliament, Sleepwalked through Goverment,

    sleepwalked down the stairs …..
26. Bill 26

    19 January 2009 at 9:22 pm

    ‘sleepwalked down the stairs……’ Or was he pushed by an invisible hand?
27. imcheezy 27

    19 January 2009 at 9:25 pm

    The thread on this issue over at Kiwiblog is priceless. In particular, Russell is owning that sad, laughable fellow who goes by the name of big bruv.
28. Anthony 28

    19 January 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Well I am an Act Supporter. and sorry to say 8 people I know, Me and my Dad and about 4 others understand Capitalism.

    And as one of the few lonely who seem to understand, John Keys is just a goon.

    For the people here I will give and idea what Capitalism (freemaket) is. Its a mixture of ethics and intelligence.

    Leadership and aspiration is needed in a time like this. Action needs to be looking for a better world, if those actions are not computational right it does not always mater in short term. A happy people will provide and look after each other.
29. Robinsod 29

    19 January 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Lew – you have a strange idea of equal.

    On the bright side Farrar has admitted he was wrong to post the Clark video –

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/ouch-6.html/comment-page-1#comment-526180

    I’ve never seen the fat wee fella do such a thing. Usually he tries to find a little loophole and makes out anyone who challenges him on it is too stupid to understand the nuances of his brilliant mind…

    Admittedly this time he’s trying to claim it’s not so bad because Clark didn’t break a bone but I think even he’s realised that’s too small a gap between circumstances to fit his fat hypocritical arse through…

    Edit: Anthony – does your mum know what capitalism is too?
30. John Dalley 30

    19 January 2009 at 11:33 pm

    I blame the Chinese (New Year)
    Helen Clark trips over and loses the Election.
    John Key falls down the stairs so he will have bad luck for 3 years and then get stabbed it the back by Bill English.

    and

    Dad4justice alias “Peter Burns” you have an unnatural afflictions with Helen Clark’s husband. You really need to leave it alone before we think less of you than we already do.
31. rave 31

    19 January 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Anthony, shame to waste such a few lonely name.

    I agree that aspiration is what keeps us alive.

    “A happy people” sounds like Jonesville.

    Phil has the answer best foot forward.
32. Mello C 32

    20 January 2009 at 12:01 am

    Anthony
    Why is it that all the right-wingers I know get it from their dads? It’s always ‘blah blah blah my dad says free market this’, ‘my dad says dole-bludgers that’. (Interestingly, never ‘my mum’ for some reason.)

    Contrary to this, the majority of the left-wingers I know came to their political conclusions not through others’ (namely their parents’) views, but through their own logic and reasoning.
33. illuminatedtiger 33

    20 January 2009 at 12:59 am

    Dad4justice alias “Peter Burns’ you have an unnatural afflictions with Helen Clark’s husband. You really need to leave it alone before we think less of you than we already do.

    If that were even possible?
34. Peter Burns 34

    20 January 2009 at 6:36 am

    Peter had a wife, but sadly he couldn’t keep her after she objected to living in the pumpkin shell.

    Thank you for your gracious comments Ms Joan Dulley and Miss Glowing Pussycat.

    Must go, got a plane to catch heading for LA to ask a few questions about things that go on at the Airport for my research project. I hope I don’t fall over in the toilet. Bad acid? Judge and jury will eventually decide.
35. Darren Rickard 35

    20 January 2009 at 7:23 am

    Having a dig at Helen’s VERY funny pratfall last year is one thing, she wasn’t badly injured.

    Having a dig at Key after badly injuring himself is low indeed.

    Best you should have wished him well and then moved on.

    [that’s like arguing it’s ok to speed as long as you don’t crash. SP]
36. Lew 36

    20 January 2009 at 9:27 am

    Sod: In principle rather than practice, and for very rough values of `equal’. If you disagree, how do you justify bringing up DPF’s weight as if it’s relevant to the content of his character, or the veracity of his arguments?

    L
37. illuminatedtiger 37

    20 January 2009 at 9:35 am

    Well he’s not exactly Brad Pitt *runs*
38. Robinsod 38

    20 January 2009 at 9:48 am

    Lew – I don’t justify it. Nor do I need to – I know Farrar seldom misses a comment about himself and thus it was a good opportunity to stick the boot in…
39. Daveski 39

    20 January 2009 at 9:53 am

    Big ups to SP on this one – his views on Key are well known so it would have been easy to take some cheap shots.
40. Chris S 40

    20 January 2009 at 10:21 am

    You’re a prat, Darren. Either that or you’re attempting a parody of every other post I’ve seen you make with that almost unbelievable tripe you just puked into the comment box.

    I would say that a broken arm means that Key wasn’t badly injured (as opposed to, say, broken neck). So we can laugh now?

    How about: “Making fun of someone who accidentally stepped over the stairs is sick and is nothing like making fun of someone else who just tripped on a magazine rack. You lefties are vindictive bastards.”
41. Tigger 41

    20 January 2009 at 10:53 am

    Chris S – agreed. Most people I know who’ve broken a limb in circumstances like that have a good laugh about it. Key seems happy to laugh it off – why are his supporters so humourless?

    Speaking of laughs… anyone else read that Lockwood Smith is getting married. To a woman?
42. notory 42

    20 January 2009 at 10:55 am

    Well, you can decide for yourself. Personally I feel a little tiny bit bad because I laughed. Here’s Key breaking his arm:
    
    
43. Joanna 43

    20 January 2009 at 12:34 pm

    I dont often comment here, but I always read this blog (in recent months even before the news sites!).
    This comment thread is making me feel increasingly uncomfortable I dont know if this is because while absolutely disagreeing with his politics, I find laughing at John Key for falling over to be in bad taste. Or it may be because I worry this is descending into Kiwiblog comment teritory (and I maybe hoped people commenting here were ..better?….more focused on issues?… I dont know?)

    Overall I suspect I am being a bit naive and precious but I would be interested if others feel this way (particularily the writers at The Standard).

    I also fear that the more attention things like this get (and Helen’s fall last year) the less focus is on analysing the policies.

    I should also add that I really liked the origianal post by SP it summed up most of my feelings about the incident

    [lprent: I’d agree. I don’t really find breaking an arm (or a fall) to be of much interest.
    I suspect that the main reason SP put the post up was to isolate the inevitable comment in one place.
    Because if we didn’t put up a post then we’d get comment anyway. So far the comment hasn’t deteriorated in a way that would make me start banning wholesale (unlike the relevant KB comment sections). ]
44. Daveski 44

    20 January 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Joanna – feel free to comment more often 🙂
45. Paul Robeson 45

    20 January 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Now the stupid cartoon in the Herald from Emmerson is portraying the Maori Party as a bunch of thugs who could have been behind breaking that nice Mr Key’s arm,

    Stupid Australian.

    Thought it was the Act party who wrung crazy concessions out in their agreement.
46. Sam P 46

    20 January 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Tigger

    Yes, and shes a flaming strewth! type of woman.

    If ya know what I mean…. *wink wink*
47. Jasper 47

    20 January 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Tigger,

    Yes, and shes a flaming strewth! type of woman.

    If ya know what I mean… *wink wink*

    But seriously… it’s amusing. I guess he doesn’t want the rumours any more “madam speaker” indeed!

    At least he’s on his throne… like a proper queen.
48. Jasper 48

    20 January 2009 at 2:57 pm

    Um… Lynne?

    This isn’t the first time this has happened too…
    
    [lprent: what?]
49. Tigger 49

    20 January 2009 at 4:15 pm

    Whoops, before I’m accused of leading a homophobic charge against Lockwood or of defamation I should point out that he is historically well known for his same sex antics – some of it not so historic in fact. If I could convince a friend of mine to go on record I’d formally out him in a heartbeat. Truth, as ever, is a defence to defamation.

    I have no issues with Lockwood having had sex with men. I’m slamming him for having had sex with men and then voting down pro same-sex measures in Parliament.

    Tony Ryall, I’m looking at you also… Again, if I could convince a certain young man to go on record then your anti-gay voting stance would look rather ironic.

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