“Be kind” #StandWithPike

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1. greywarshark 1

   14 November 2016 at 4:37 pm

   I compare this photo of a gallant band of citizens in the chilly open air with unwelcoming grey clouds behind them to the picture of Brownlee with his fleshy cheeks in a satisfied smugness, John Key beside him, going off on a boys own trip in comfort in a plane or helicopter to dispense promises – the pocketful of mumbles, not even marbles, that National carry around with them to hand out to the populace.

   Will you pollies get to Pike River? Where? Never heard of it? It’s not in the news is it – yesterday’s tragedy and yesterday’s promises, now stale and mouldy. They asked for bread and you gave them a stone. (Ref. Matthew 7:9.)
2. weka 2

   14 November 2016 at 5:46 pm

   I love these women. Thanks for the posts and #StandWithPike
3. greywarshark 3

   15 November 2016 at 9:41 am

   What would be helpful to the Pike River protest people? We could write to the PM and who else – is there a Minister of Mining? Probably Steven Joyce would be another party in the Party, write to Labour and ask them to speak up again and support the opening of the mine to attempt recovery, also the Greens, don’t know about Winston, are there Maori in there who their whanau would like out in their own urupa?

   Two comments isn’t a great interest from TS and we need to have something to do to help and then we could get on board. Probably everyone knows about this and most will feel that it is wrong to just seal the mine. It will be a giant headstone over the death of NZ society’s values that will be an accusing, sad place of pilgrimage like Parihaka if we don’t do something for these mourners.
   • Molly 3.1

     15 November 2016 at 10:02 am

     Personally, I had very little faith in the promises of John Key to help recover the bodies, even as the words were still leaving his mouth, but I can understand the hope that those words ignited in the families.

     It is hard to watch the continuing pain of the families, and I admire their fierce courage and fortitude in continuing their fight.

     I don’t know of any practical help that can be offered. Are they running a fund to help support the occupation?
4. greywarshark 4

   15 November 2016 at 10:16 am

   Good question Molly. What would you like us to do #StandWithPike people? Drop TS an email with your thoughts about it. And talk about it on social media, give the tappers something solid to do that might be effective beyond the spreading of the news of the protest.
   • Michelle 4.1

     17 November 2016 at 12:20 pm

     what about funding a robot with a camera that can enter the mine
     • greywarshark 4.1.1

       17 November 2016 at 10:22 pm

       Michelle are you connected with the Pike River protesters? m.gray Would you know if a robot with a camera would actually be helpful and who could operate it? Do you or any of the readers know if one can be leased and from where? I think we could get givealittle to help if we had a plan.

       Could the Pike River protesters get an injunction or something that enabled them to have citizens rights to get into the mine I wonder.

       I think it is true that the government does not and never had any intention of putting the expense in to recover these workers even though they were in a risky but valuable essential job providing an energy resource. So they would have to be made to look afraid, or silly, or just neglectful. People already know they are callous, hopeless and heartless but are not upset enough to put pressure on government. If you disagree with my opinion prove it and go into action and do start pressing their buttons.

       But two pollies below took on Nick Smith this afternoon. Perhaps they would help TS get a Petition going Wild Katipo. You tell a mighty story at
       No.7 there.
       Damien O’Connor (Labour) and Denise Roche (Green) asked Oral
       Questions about the mine Nos 3 and 8 – 17 Novemeber 2016. You can look these up on Scoop – just scroll down and see what game the gummint is playing.
       http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1611/S00315/questions-and-answers-17-november-2016.htm
   • SomeName 4.2

     17 November 2016 at 12:25 pm

     Lets fund the camera robot as our government will say they cant afford it another lame excuse
5. WILD KATIPO 5

   15 November 2016 at 2:45 pm

   Someone mentioned about making things more known on social media.

   Building on that idea,… why cannot The Standard organise an online petition to force this govt to not only keep that mine open but to conduct a full body recovery complete with coroners reports determining the causes of death , appoint an independent investigative body to ascertain the cause/ causes of the disaster , and finally , bring criminal negligence charges against those involved in its operation.

   Thats actually what a REAL govt would do.

   And perhaps that petition could be circulated among the opposition party’s FIRST . That way , … it becomes re-highlighted in the coming election year – just as this govt seeks to literally bury the issue with 4 plugs of concrete for all time as is presently the case…
6. WILD KATIPO 6

   15 November 2016 at 3:21 pm

   I’m going to go out on a line and mention something that I mentioned before and was heavily criticized for…

   I was working as a security guard at TV3 during both the Christchurch earthquake and the Pike River disaster. And part of the dutys we had was when most of the staff went home for the evenings we had to field calls from all and sundry. And it was incredibly busy some nights ,- none more so than when these two disasters occurred.

   I remember watching events unfold on the Friday night on duty , receiving calls from officials and news agencies from country’s as diverse as Scotland, Russia, France … from all over – and the general public.

   One call in particular stood out for its … eerie accuracy as events later unfolded.

   A woman who was a psychic and had helped the Australian Police find two bodies of murder victims rang in. At first I was skeptical , but we had to answer, liaise with , and log each call. And there were hundreds.

   It was Friday night , when the disaster had first occurred , and this woman was … not hysterical ,.. but obviously agitated. I told her to calm down, as I wanted to ascertain just what she was saying. To which she did and then composed herself and related what she had ‘ seen’.

   She had had a dream… as this was often how things came to her… ( she wasn’t even aware of the event taking place as she was sleeping at the time ) In that dream , she said she saw 29 men underground, fire, …with one of them being extremely young , just a teenager.

   She told me to draw a ‘ T ‘ ,… then an ‘ F ‘ ,… then join then together and put the ‘ T’ on the bottom and the ‘ F’ on top. I was thinking,.. what the blazes??? So then
7. WILD KATIPO 7

   15 November 2016 at 3:38 pm

   I’m going to go out on a line and mention something that I mentioned before and was heavily criticized for…

   I was working as a security guard at TV3 during both the Christchurch earthquake and the Pike River disaster. And part of the dutys we had was when most of the staff went home for the evenings we had to field calls from all and sundry. And it was incredibly busy some nights ,- none more so than when these two disasters occurred.

   I remember watching events unfold on the Friday night on duty , receiving calls from officials and news agencies from country’s as diverse as Scotland, Russia, France … from all over – and the general public.

   One call in particular stood out for its … eerie accuracy as events later unfolded.

   A woman who was a psychic and had helped the Australian Police find two bodies of murder victims rang in. At first I was skeptical , but we had to answer, liaise with , and log each call. And there were hundreds.

   It was Friday night , when the disaster had first occurred , and this woman was … not hysterical ,.. but obviously agitated. I told her to calm down, as I wanted to ascertain just what she was saying. To which she did and then composed herself and related what she had ‘ seen’.

   She had had a dream… as this was often how things came to her… ( she wasn’t even aware of the event taking place as she was sleeping at the time ) In that dream , she said she saw 29 men underground, fire, …with one of them being extremely young , just a teenager.

   She told me to draw a ‘ T ‘ ,… then an ‘ F ‘ ,… then join them both together and put the ‘ T’ on the bottom and the ‘ F’ on top. I was thinking,.. what the blazes??? So then I did , yet it still made no sense to me at the time. She said that was the aerial plan of the mine itself.

   She said that the main explosion had happened in the middle ( where we now know the extractor was located ) and that most of the men had ran first to the lower arm of the ‘ F’ , found that unsafe , then ran to the top of the ‘F’ ( not the arms of the ‘F’ , but the vertical bar ) and that they were grouped there. She said she saw a clay type background , and several were eating chips and oranges, some joked about having to eat the skins…

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   This was on the Friday night , – which as you will remember , – was before the plan of the mine was known to the public ( it was the following Monday when the mines plan came out in the NZ Herald,- I still have the copy of it along with the conversation ) , and before the exact numbers of workers were known and before the public knew about the youngest teenager caught up in it.

   And the point of it all is this : if this woman was correct ,… there was indeed a window of time whereby a rescue attempt could have been attempted when methane level’s were low.

   BUT ! ,… if they had of been rescued ,… then rest assured ,… there would have been long and acrimonious proceedings brought against those who by their greed and negligence facilitated those conditions in the face of serious health and safety issues.

   And politically ?

   That would have been a complete disaster for the ‘ foreign investment ‘ driven , neo liberal led government of John Key.
8. Michelle 8

   17 November 2016 at 12:24 pm

   Yes I believe they were waiting to be rescued and we never came for them ( ps I am crying while I write this) so sad sorry

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