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Botulism scare products

Written By: - Date published: 8:48 am, August 5th, 2013 - 109 comments
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The information on which products are at risk from the Fonterra botulism scare has taken far too long to come out. Thanks 3 News for this list (so far):

Several products have been recalled in New Zealand, including two of Nutricia’s Karicare formulas. … “None of the products tested and sold in New Zealand indicate any contaminations. However, given the new information supplied by Fonterra, we have taken the decision to make a precautionary recall on specific products.” Nutricia says consumers with the specified batch numbers should not feed their babies with the products. If infants show any signs of illness they should be seen by a doctor as a “precautionary measure”.

Products recalled in NZ:

Karicare Infant Formula Stage 1 (0-6 months) with batch numbers 3169 and 3170
Karicare Gold+ Follow On Formula Stage 2 (6-12 months) with batch number D3183
Small amounts of NZAgbiz calf milk replacer – not made for human consumption – sold in the North Island

Products deemed safe:

UHT, yoghurt and soft drinks produced by Wahaha, Coca-Cola and Vitaco.

Update: All batch numbers are to be avoided, see comments.

109 comments on “Botulism scare products”

  1. Colonial Viper 1

    A total bungle of the basics of corporate PR. Can’t understand what the hell corporate head office was thinking. But it looks incompetent.

    • Sanctuary 1.1

      They seem to spend most of their time trying to scheme up ways to privatise the business by stealth, rather than focusing on what matters.

      • Tim 1.1.1

        That’s an interesting and salient comment Sanctuary – I think it was Hooten on “from the Right & from the Right” this morning who even pointed out just what a bugger’s muddle Fonterra is/has become.
        It seems its board/administration has been more preoccupied in recent times with dreaming up ways of destroying a functioning co-operative in order to allow cronies to get a slice of the cake, rather than representing farmers’ best interests (and NZ’s interests at that). The whole scheme of share trading of any profit gained by a farmer, the listing on the Stock Exchange et al seems to have guzumped what cudda shudda wudda have been a long term, respected, trusted NZ Co-op based on nothing other than ideology and greed!.

        I find it really difficult to feel any sort of sympathy for the buggers other than for those farmers that have been royally conned. (Various banks having ‘MIS-sold certain options for a start! I think that Damien fella has that as one of his hobby horses). Even those farmers I know of, I have the same sort of empathy for as I do for the likes of Bruce Tichbon who tried to buy into a Sydney Harbour Bridge deal – for the second, or maybe third time with a conman.

        But even aside from that! and taking a step back …..
        Here, NZers are expected to pay international prices in that ‘global free-market’ (NOT, nor NEVER) for dairy products whilst already having paid a premium through
        – paying for the costs of the cleanup of polluted rivers and streams (which of course farmers often state they’re not responsible for – even tho’ it only started happening on implementation of their buzzniss modil)
        – subsidizing any sort of carbon tax/ETS scheme because farmers have been exempted
        – paying for various irrigation schemes that benefit dairy farming and don’t recognise that the resource is finite
        – paying for Crown-owned research nstitutes researching ways of eliminating the effects of cow burping or farting
        – conning us all by insisting they’re the backbone of the economy and TINA (well Jack – just look at us now ……
        All the while …. the rest of the world hasn’t had to pay those costs!

        Worse still when one jumps on a plane, and 3 or 4 hours later discovers NZ dairy products being sold in duopolistic supermarket outlets for LESS than they are sold in NZ.

        Well sorry chasps! More fool you for behaving like a load of entitled rich pricks (whether you are or not), void of any social responsibility or even community concern, because maybe a bank salesman has conned you, and Fonterra’s ideologically-driven management have conned you and destroyed your Co-op. Tuf cowshit!
        Don’t expect this ‘Tex payer’ to be happy with bailing you out. Sell an SUV; have a go at your Natzi mates and Fonterra management and CEO; look at ways you might further comply with some basic initiatives to protect the environment; start to understand that bigger is not always better; that there IS a difference between sustainED growth and sustainABLE growth; and a few other things before you come grovelling to Tex [payer]/citizen to bail you out.
        Oh ….. and maybe Fonterra’s CEO ….. you reckon he’ll deserve his next bonus?

        Personally, I’d recommend you’d be better off taking your Co-op back from the Cowshit Artists and telling them their management abilities and tempting schemes that have failed should come out of their over-inflated salaries. I wouldn’t try blaming MPI either. They laid it on the line early on, and your Fuckedteria management all went along (even assured everyone) that self-regulation and de-regulation was the way to go. Pike River!

        Right now, I couldn’t actually give a damn it you’re going to be up Cowshit Creek without a paddle.
        That sustained environmental scorched Earth growth you put your money on, doesn’t look quite so hot now aye!

        Cudda Shudda Wudda.

        BTW – Hoots did his best to push the agenda this morning – but, self-serving as usual. Perhaps he’s got a potential spin-meister job in mind trying to rectumfy the situation.

        • Rosetinted 1.1.1.1

          Tim You make more sense than Hoots for sure, and do more hard thinking. What about offering yourself as the left wing guy for Radionz politics time and give Mike Williams a holiday.

          • Tim 1.1.1.1.1

            @Rose – I couldn’t possibly. I’m hampered by the fact that I’ve had criminality amongst family members, as well as other family members being part of the “Spy” cohort. I’d be fighting to many battles on a daily basis before any MSM lazy journalist kicked their own arse enough to be able to do their job.
            Some poor bitch I’m related to actually still works for the buggers and I’m not sure whether the mortgage has been paid off yet.

            There are others more competent though than I – they express themselves in ‘spaces’ (to coin the trendy) such as “the Standard” and “The Daily Blog” … and elsewhere.

            My only hope and wish is that things don;t actually get to the point of the “Arab Spring” when the sleepy eventually wake up. They are starting to wake.
            Reminds me of that Bullshit Sky TV promo (if you’ve seen it) – promoting a programme dealing with the 4th Estate. There is Ted Turner’s ‘missus’ saying “the chips are falling”.

            They sure as hell are.

            • Rosetinted 1.1.1.1.1.1

              Tim
              You’re pretty much out there. Have a good day, and may the sun shine on you etc.

              That business about waking up. I heard a story about a bloke who was an alcoholic and would go off to sleep blotto. If he was woken suddenly he would be aggressive and violent. I hope that is not the analogy for NZs future. Waking up before one goes too far into degeneration, that’s the best for us all.

              • Tim

                Tx Rose …. and you.
                Right now I’m watching Campbell Live re the Fonterra gig.

                There is some spinmeister okker all contrite and regretful.

                All I can say is FFS farmers – take back your co-operative – but as you do, and as I said above, don’t expect sympathy from me.

                ….. and IF the nuZull konomy collapses or goes through turmoil – so be it. It’s an indicator of greed in progress, and the self-regulatory/de-regulatory programme.

                Btw…. good on JC for asking the question – “was this really down to a contaminated pipe?”

                I can see a ‘rebranding’ exercise in the smelly wind.

                Whereeeeeeeeeeeee’s Johnny?

                • Arfamo

                  I watched that: it was Gary Romano, managing director of New Zealand milk products for Fonterra. Sounded like an Aussie. Christ he was awful. Campbell couldn’t get a straight answer out of him about what products should be avoided and how it all happened. It was the most inept piece of corporate PR circular bullshit I’ve seen for years. God help Fonterra if anyone from Russia or China was watching that. They’d be left with the conclusion the company’s in the hands of irresponsible fwits who’re obfuscating like crazy to cover something up.

    • i think it looks more contrived than ‘incompetent’..

      ..remember…they just had a share float..

      ..what better reason to keep quiet about a botulism-batch..?

      ..and if freedom of information requests reveal this..?..

      ..whoar..!

      ..a new benchmark will be set for shit-hitting-fan..

      ..then there is the mstter of the recently departed/highly-paid-off fonterra-man..eh..?

      ..he must have known..

      ..was that a factor in his departure..?

      ..so many questions still unanswered..

      ..phillip ure..

      • Saarbo 1.2.1

        Who recently left Fonterra?

      • Colonial Viper 1.2.2

        ..remember…they just had a share float..

        ..what better reason to keep quiet about a botulism-batch..?

        Great. So Fonterra executive management has just exposed the company to massive lawsuits from new investors, by ‘not disclosing all material knowledge, information and risks pertinent to the current and future financial performance of the company’.

        First international legal action gets announced in 48 hours I reckon.

  2. Dv 2

    Apparently advice from MPI
    The correction was made on Morning report and repeated on the 9 news.
    Karicare Infant Formula Stage 1 (0-6 months)
    Karicare Gold+ Follow On Formula Stage 2 (6-12 months)

  3. vto 3

    Just gotta re-post this…

    Trusting in self-regulation / deredgulation / the interests of individualism / supply demand to ensure that surrounding sector requirements are met has been proved yet again to not work. Thanks Fonterra for exposing the failures of this aspect of neoliberal religion.

    At least with Fonterra’s failure nobody died like at Pike River…

    … oh, hang on, Fonterra’s actions did kill small children in China with its melamine….

    The policies of this national government and the attitudes and philosophies that are subsequently encouraged in private business results in

    1. 29 Men being killed at Pike River
    2. 4 men being killed in forestry so far this year.
    3. Babies being killed in China.
    4. Babies almost being killed through botched Fonterra botchulism.

    Deaths.

    Killed people.

    That is the result.

    And yet Joyce and Key want to push the same approach onto the heaviest trucks on NZ;s roads with a form of self-regulation in vehicle safety and compliance. What is it that these people don’t get?

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 3.1

      Evidence. They don’t get evidence.

    • Rosetinted 3.2

      Wasn’t Fonterra totally non-responsible for the melamine business in China? I thought it was totally a Chinese initiative.

      It doesn’t do to throw mud around willy-nilly vto. Just coping with the factual evidence of bad practice now is bad enough without piling on other assertions with no evidence. Source for the China tale and link please.

      • vto 3.2.1

        I don’t consider it throwing mud willy-nilly. I would suggest it is the same approach that resulted in the babies being killed in China. (no time to locate and research links so feel free to discount accordingly).

        The main point stands though, as I see you have similarly posted below.

        • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 3.2.1.1

          Pipes simply do not leak under governments who do not follow neo-liberal policies. Why, the former Soviet Union was famous for its food safety. As was the Byzantine empire, especially under Justinian the Great.

          • One Anonymous Knucklehead 3.2.1.1.1

            Good to know that the Byzantine empire and former Soviet Union are your benchmarks.
            That explains a lot.

            • Colonial Viper 3.2.1.1.1.1

              Don’t knock the Byzantines. Their empire lasted a long time. Far longer than our global civilisation is going to last.

              As for the USSR. Most commentators assume that the USA won the Cold War, with the collapse of the Soviet. I’m not so sure nowadays.

        • Private Baldric 3.2.1.2

          I agree with private VD.

          It is all the gentries’s faults.

        • Rosetinted 3.2.1.3

          vto
          Just stick to the facts man. Don’t diss the main business that keeps our country going and keeps you in a living. Don’t spread partly incorrect stories with a negative spin just to make your point. It is not helpful to me or you as NZ citizens for you to have rants about sensitive matters that aren’t completely true. There is plenty of rant material available about factual matters.

          • vto 3.2.1.3.1

            I understand your point there Rosetinted and appreciate what effects exaggerations and the like can have on a point being made and on the point-maker. Don’t see no rules against it.

            But this here …… “Don’t diss the main business that keeps our country going and keeps you in a living.”

            Horseshit. Absolute crap. Flush it down the dunny.

          • g spot 3.2.1.3.2

            ‘keeps the country going and keeps you in a living’
            buhahahaha… think dairy industry is mentioned to contribute 3% to nz gdp in cnn report i just watched. They mightn’t be keeping the country going much longer regardless. I don’t see any NZers enjoying the price of milk. I think Saddam even made petrol cheap in Iraq?
            You are a muppet. Not Kermit either.

      • Colonial Viper 3.2.2

        Wasn’t Fonterra totally non-responsible for the melamine business in China? I thought it was totally a Chinese initiative.

        Just like Union Carbine (USA) was totally non-responsible for the Bhopal business of Union Carbide (India). Isn’t it great to see our business people learning from the best in the corporate world.

        PS the Chinese authorities were pissed off last time around and they have long memories.

        • vto 3.2.2.1

          Yep, that’s it.

          I understood Fonterra’s ownership in the Chinese business (san lu?) was 50%. If so, then that makes it as responsible as if it was a 100% owner imo.

          • Pasupial 3.2.2.1.1

            @VTO

            Fonterra had 43% ownership in Sanlu. Though, to be fair, they had less control over the production facilities where that adulteration occurred (which was adding melamine to boost protein counts as fraud) than the NZ plant where the current bacterial contamination happened. Also it wasn’t just Sanlu; 21 other Chinese companies were then shown to be running in the same scam.

        • Tim 3.2.2.2

          Yep CV. Union C were so ‘non-responsible’ for Bhopal that their CEO, when visiting the site afterwards had to do a runner and get out of the country as quick as he could. Extradition was attempted unsuccessfully – the US wouldn’t agree.

          YET – when they get turned down for the likes of Snowden and Assange extradition – they just can’t cope and try to remember their morals.

          Maybe they should not have set the precedent.

          As we’ll soon see here in NZ (well hopefully soon *) with Key, GSB, SIS, Polis et all, what’s source for the goose is sauce for the gander. It might take just an eensy weensy bit longer (actually as long as spin-meisters are able to tell even more semi-credible bullshit and kick the can down the road a bit further), but they’re beginning to forget the bullshit they originally told, and it doesn’t tally with the latest round. It’s what happens when lying becomes pathological.

          * It may take a bit longer – I think they’ve still got a few stooges to blame. Trouble is that when the stooges begin to outnumber the operatives, they become deeply imbedded in the load of kaka they deserve.
          Hopefully the MPI stooge is off their agenda – they declared their stance early on.

          Gosh though aye! I’m frikken heartbroken! This could devstate the konmy. I jiss saw Johnky on Skoi News – he ekshly searnded drunk – it took a double pass for me to unnastan wot he wiz torkin beart.

          Anne … we even hed Camrun Begry on NinetoNoon this morning conceding we should have diversified and not relied on farting cows so much.
          (Closing down those railway workshops might not have been such a good idea for a start).

          Let her roll though – the chips are falling. Key and Joyce are spinning, Soimun Brudgizz, Nathan Ididn’tinhale Guy, Pulla Bent, HekYea Parata et al are having to learn new rimming techniques to turn their Leader on.

    • Honest Abe 3.3

      VTO sometimes it’s better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

  4. Lanthanide 4

    Morning Report had the same batch numbers, and corrected it within 30 minutes to say that a government department (Internal Affairs maybe? don’t recall) has advised that none of these products, regardless of batch number, should be consumed.

    Be worth editing the story with this note.

    • r0b 4.1

      Done, thanks.

      • Lanthanide 4.1.1

        Thanks.

        Ministry of Primary Industries: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/dairy/9001765/Threat-to-dairy-exports-widens

        MPI said two types of infant formula – Karicare Infant Formula Stage 1 for babies from birth and Karicare Stage 2 Follow-on Formula for children from six month old – should be avoided.

        Nutricia, a brand owned by food giant Danone, has previously said only certain batches should be avoided.

        Gallacher admitted parents would find the advice contradictory.

        “The Ministry for Primary Industries has not been able to fully trace and track through Nutricia’s supply chain which specific batches of its products may contain the contaminated whey protein and which do not.”

  5. Rosetinted 5

    Fonterra seems to have attended the same business management school as the Pike River coal lot. I keep thinking NZ hasn’t got a chance of surviving as a developed country going by the continual and observable mismanagement, poor financial and economic controls and stuff-ups. I want to be shown to be WRONG, WRONG. But I fear not. Enough to make a thinking person weep.

    Think of our NZ country, Aotearoa, as an infant in a big world of grown-ups that don’t care about infants, and the harm that may befall real babies from contaminated food and then the harm that will befall our little country and its population, and they are similarly alarming.

    • weka 5.1

      “and the harm that may befall real babies from contaminated food and then the harm that will befall our little country and its population, and they are similarly alarming.”

      How many recorded cases of infant botulism have there been in NZ?

      Zero.

      • Colonial Viper 5.1.1

        When something goes wrong and it is badly handled, a doctor’s patient doesn’t have to actually die for the community to lose trust in the doctor.

        Remember in China, babies did actually die from Fonterra (San Lu) product. And we might have only had a few mentions of that in our news media at the time, but it was headlines throughout China, and is still causing headaches for Chinese health authorities today.

        • weka 5.1.1.1

          Bad cut and pasting on my part. I was focussed on the ‘babies might die’ bit. As far as I can tell the risk is very small. I’d like to see someone who knows what they are talking about make a statement about this, and am surprised that it hasn’t been discussed yet, but honestly, leaving aside the trade issues, it’s not a good idea to misinform the public over public health issues like this, and talking about babies dying is emotive in a really unhelpful way.

          The Clostridium bacteria is common enough, botulism is pretty rare in NZ. There are reasons for that. If you promote food safety as being the preserve of big corporations (who cannot in fact ensure food safety) then you put more people at risk. Better to inform the public about good home hygiene so that they don’t create botulism (most botulism happens from food prepared at home).

          The whole thing points to the ridiculousnees of the industrial food systems we now have, and the ‘babies might die’ narratives just increase risk aversion to the point where it is non-sensical and counter-productive.

          The lack of depth information in this saga, and the willingness of people here to express strong opinions when we don’t have that information yet, is alarming.

          • Colonial Viper 5.1.1.1.1

            Its a weird thing risk and probabilities, as I mentioned elsewhere. You’re going to be a hundred times more likely to die on the roads than through any kind of dairy food poisoning, and no one is stressing out about driving home tonight.

          • karol 5.1.1.1.2

            It has actually crossed my mind that Fonterra has been targeted by some sort of “industrial sabotage”.

        • Don't worry be happy 5.1.1.2

          When babies die they leave behind a life time of heart ache for their families….

          And for those sickened by melamine, painful difficult to treat, kidney ‘stones’ made of PLASTIC, Fonterra when asked about compensating their parents, promised to build a hospital, instead.

          So how’s that going Fonterra? Should be well and truly built by now? Where is it?

          Or was that a bit of quick spin/deliberate lies to get out of a paying a fair sum to the affected families?

    • Tim 5.2

      @ Rose
      “I want to be shown to be WRONG, WRONG. But I fear not.”
      You’re right to be fearful. Unfortunately a culture has developed whereby competency is directly proportional to salary paid, such that it is assumed the higher the salary – the more competent the candidate is (and along with that …. the more trust, the more respect, the more comfortable we should feel). Trouble is that alongside that, there’s been this whole “we’re competing in a global market for CEO expertise” bullshit going on – i.e. we have to be competitive with salary to attract candidates).
      How well has that served us? Pike River? … ekshly there was a TV3 ‘operative’ from memory years ago – high order Cowshit Artist – that should have alerted us (but it didn’t)
      What’s worse is that our Public Service got corporatised and the same conditions apply. (Ekshly I alluded to rellies in a previous post – one such once told me that their primary mission was checking out the credibility of PS CEO candidates under a regime of ‘political correctness*).
      No point in fear though.
      They’re generally such utter fuckwits, incompetents and bullshit artists that they usually fuck themselves up. It’s just unfortunate that they sometimes rise to the heightened ranks they do – to the extent they jeopardise an economy.

      *The one I’m thinking of specifically had my rellie alerting his ‘whoevers’ – including his propensity to pretend to be a political supporter of the party in power, all the while leaking cabinet papers et al – plus the usual (i.e. taking all credit for the successes of his public servant underlings,
      but blaming them and shifting shit to them when things went wrong).

      Oh how I once wished for a “Funny thing happened on the way to the Forum” thread.

      Never mind. It really would have been Catholic Church stuff (and Tory Street sauna, WCC admin mafioso former head of gubbamint department/nurses uniform/leaky building/ dangly earing- wearing-bene-bashing-wholier-than-thou-attitudinal/ former Speaker-of-the-house-Wellington College student ‘tutoring’ [in what only we know] – Grass/Hay Street residing, once were Labour Party-now-no-need Oike Williams, usuers-of-trade-union-now-‘better-than-that’ stuff)

      Come to think of it though – it might have been too much like Truth newspaper – even though one of its former editors is rolling in his grave at the rise of the fascist in NZ

  6. weka 6

    What is the risk of botulism from whey protein contaminated with Clostridium?

    • northshoredoc 6.1

      Vanishingly small.

      However notification and withdrawal of all products that may potentially be affected is the correct course of action.

      • weka 6.1.1

        Thanks, that’s what I thought.

        Notification and withdrawal, isn’t that what Fonterra are doing?

        • northshoredoc 6.1.1.1

          Yes. The media do like their lead stories to be as sensational as possible however.

          Until we have more information it is difficult to comment on whether there have been unacceptable delays in notification or foreseeable/avoidable hygiene errors at the plant in question.

          I could be naughty and hazard a guess that NZ milk powder with potential clostridia contamination is probably still a safer and better product than many of the milk powders in countries around the globe…. especially in those that will act to prohibit Fonterra product.

          Certainly this incident is far less of a risk than the Chinese company that was tainting formula with melamine a couple of years back.

          • weka 6.1.1.1.1

            Until we have more information it is difficult to comment on whether there have been unacceptable delays in notification or foreseeable/avoidable hygiene errors at the plant in question.

            Yep. I’m not sure the MSM have even figured out what the questions are yet. I don’t see many on ts asking either.

            I could be naughty and hazard a guess that NZ milk powder with potential clostridia contamination is probably still a safer and better product than many of the milk powders in countries around the globe…. especially in those that will act to prohibit Fonterra product.

            Heh.

  7. Adrian 7

    Listening to Wills and Groser on Natrad this morning I could not believe how supposedly well educated 50+ year olds could speak in such convoluted contorted cliches and imbecilic jargon mixed in mangeled syntax. I would much rather listen to an 18 year old.
    It was a great example of how education standards have obviously soared in the last 30 years.

  8. Rosetinted 8

    I keep thinking NZ hasn’t got a chance of surviving as a developed country going by the continual and observable mismanagement, poor financial and economic controls and stuff-ups. I want to be shown to be WRONG, WRONG. But I fear not. Enough to make a thinking person weep.

    I’ll repeat myself as so far I have read nothing of sense and value from people who have decided comment on this thread. What I said applies even more after reading the nonsensical ideas about our produce, trade and exports that have been written so far by other commenters.

    • weka 8.1

      With Peak Oil, Climate change and the Global Financial crisis, no country will be able to survive as a ‘developed’ country, if by that you mean that we can all continue down a path of increasing growth and population using industrial/capitalist models of production. None. The things you want NZ to be better at, are completely and utterly unsustainable, both at the national and global level.

      Further, I’m not sure who you are comparing NZ to, but the US, which has a more complex and ‘advanced’ industrial food production culture than NZ routinely has food contamination. The bigger and more complex you go, the less safe the production and supply lines become.

      The current diary boom is stripping fertility from NZ soils that took tens of thousands of years to build up, and is exporting that fertility to China. At the same time, it is removing trees and using other industrial farming practices that are destroying soil resiliency, and contaminating water. It is doing all that not to grow food for NZers, but to make money. It’s all completely fucked, and it won’t last because eventually the environment will not support what we are doing, and the economics will no longer be viable as we try to prop up the farms artificially.

      • vto 8.1.1

        “The current diary boom is stripping fertility from NZ soils that took tens of thousands of years to build up, and is exporting that fertility to China. At the same time, it is removing trees and using other industrial farming practices that are destroying soil resiliency, and contaminating water. It is doing all that not to grow food for NZers, but to make money. It’s all completely fucked, and it won’t last because eventually the environment will not support what we are doing, and the economics will no longer be viable as we try to prop up the farms artificially.”

        Agree weka. NZ’s forests and land sat pretty much undrained for thousands and thousands of years – forever in fact. It is one of the reasons these first few farming generations are able to produce so much from our soil – because it hasn’t been drained before.

        But draining it is what these first few generations are doing.

        Short term thinking for short term gain. NZ farms will end up as drained as those parts of the world that have been farmed for millennia – check out Europe’s fertility.

      • Colonial Viper 8.1.2

        The current diary boom is stripping fertility from NZ soils that took tens of thousands of years to build up, and is exporting that fertility to China.

        You got it in one.

        The worst part is, we are exporting our real resources, energy and effort, in exchange for electronically magicked-up increments in online bank account numbers. It’s a mad system.

  9. Pasupial 9

    “[Fonterra] could not say how much of the 38 tonnes of potentially contaminated whey protein had been consumed.

    On Wednesday, test results indicated the potential presence of bacteria in a product sample, but the firm first identified a possible ”quality issue” in March. ”

    http://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/267427/botulism-scare-helpline-flooded-fonterra-criticised

    14 months after the contamination incident, knowing of a possible issue since March, the testing protocol employed still allowed the potentially contaminated product to be distributed in this country for a month. This is inadequate!

    “…Karicare Infant Formula Stage 1… was on sale from July 2, and Karicare Gold+ Follow On Stage 2, on shelves from July 18. “

    • Saarbo 9.1

      Yes. So had Fonterra done a recall in March, product would not have even hit the Consumer shelves (for the NZ customer)…I wonder why this didn’t happen. And why did a batch that was produced in May 2012 take until March 2013 to discover it was contaminated? Seems bizarre. And given the contamination was discovered in March, how did they know it was isolated to one 38 tonne batch. And given the contamination was discovered in March, how did Fonterra determine that the problem was caused by a particular pipe. Lots of questions here…

      • Colonial Viper 9.1.1

        So had Fonterra done a recall in March, product would not have even hit the Consumer shelves (for the NZ customer)…I wonder why this didn’t happen.

        It would have spooked investors in Fonterra’s share offer this year, and potentially cost them a hundred million dollars.

        From the timing, it appears that Fonterra decided to prioritise obtaining maximum money from investors, ahead of making a consumer safety announcement which may have put investors off buying shares.

        This thing is going to bite them in the ass big time.

        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10886441

        • Saarbo 9.1.1.1

          Yes CV, that provides a plausible explanation, incredibly unethical but plausible. Watch this space.

          • Saarbo 9.1.1.1.1

            http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10908454

            This from The Herald tries to explain why there was such a delay. It will be interesting to know if other Dairy manufacturers test for clostridium botulinum, as Professor Brooks from AUT seems to think this testing is rare. If this is the case, then Fonterra may be able to claim some high ground. But given the time delay in confirming, if the manufactured product does cause botulism, then consumers will probably die before it is discovered.

            • Colonial Viper 9.1.1.1.1.1

              But there wasn’t really any explanation was there? The material was manufactured in May 2012, a bacterial contamination detected in March 2013, and the particular bug fully typed in July 2013. Nothing new there, and still plenty of questions. Especially that food microbiologist saying that modern methods should have identified the specific bacteria far faster (I am thinking a couple of weeks, max).

              The biggest thing Fonterra had going on in 1H 2013: maximising the value it got for its share float.

  10. Rosetinted 10

    What a strange business world we operate in. There is a good side to the bad from this great error on Fonterra’s part, as our other exporters gain a price advantage.

    Because our golden rise in dairy products has halted, our exchange rate has gone down which means that exporters who have already sold product, will receive more dollars at home. And if trying to obtain orders, can offer at a lower price because of the increased NZ dollar effect. So instead of, for example, item A selling at 88 cents in foreign currency for a return of $NZ1, now it can be sold at around 75 cents, for $NZ1.

  11. infused 11

    Whatever way you cut it, it’s bad.

  12. amirite 12

    I’m wearing my tinfoil hat now and I’m thinking – how convenient, this scandal with Fonterra right at the time when the PM got himself and his office in a major pickle.

    • weka 12.1

      That’s some pretty incredible foresight on the part of the team NACT.

    • infused 12.2

      How is this good for the govt?

      • Rosetinted 12.2.1

        infused
        It deflects attention. Isn’t that obvious to you? If not, why?

        • infused 12.2.1.1

          deflects attention to a massive fuckup which doesn’t do anything good for govt?

          Yeah ok… better go stock up on the tinfoil.

          • Rosetinted 12.2.1.1.1

            infused
            I don’t think you have the right sort of mind to understand politics. Better to go and do something that is straightforward and requires linear thinking.

            Simply, it is a case that Fonterra gerfuffle is better for Key because he can blame someone else and the attention deflects off the murky shoup that he is stirring in the Beehive. He has to realise that he is never going to get his own chef spot on TV and do something useful with his life.

  13. captain hook 13

    how do you like my tie?
    hooton got some of it right.
    fonterra needs a culture revitalisation!
    too many tight underpants there at the moment.

  14. Treetop 14

    This is economically serious for the country and the potential for botulism being lethal to a baby/toddler/child, in particular when their immune systen is weakened or compromised.

    I am waiting to see if the stage 3 Karicare will be withdrawn. I recently brought a tin.

    For Fonterra to have known for over a year and to not have acted this has to be investigated.

    There are a number of Nutricia Karicare products and there appears to be a lot of information as to which product is best for each age of feeding.

    http://frugalfamilyresources.weebly.com/which-formula-is-best.html

    • Treetop 14.1

      Correction batch was produced in May 2012 and a potential problem was known in March 2013.

      • amirite 14.1.1

        So they’ve been keeping quiet on this for several months now? Why?

        • Treetop 14.1.1.1

          I heard 13.5 billion in exports is dairy and about 3.5 billion goes to China. With the recent meat export botch up to China and the time it took to get the paper work done possibly the meat would have been rejected were there also a whey/dairy problem.

          Other reasons see:
          Rosetinted @ 5 (incompetent management)
          CV@ 9.1.1 (Fonterra shares taking a dive)

          May be Key could get the GCSB onto finding out why no action was taken in March 2013!

          When it comes to the Crafar farm deal some of the farms were sold to China so that milk formula could be produced here by the Chinese to be exported to China. A similar problem could occur with contamination and this would also give NZ dairy a bad name.

          The whey (Karicare 1 and 2) was produced here, then it went to Australia for processing and then it came back for exporting as milk formula.

          Did anyone else hear this on morning report this morning?

          Did the Australians do any testing for contamination?

          • Rosetinted 14.1.1.1.2

            Treetop
            Not unless they were asked. But I heard this morning that Oz was affected by the alert action as well.

            Also I heard, while we are mentioning about meat export botch up, that there was $1 million of it in China at one time waiting to be dealt with.

            I have also heard that Telecom and Vodafone? have a dedicated civil servant in Moby.
            If true, how come we can have that and not someone who babysits each of our important export markets as their only job?

            The trouble is that NZ can get in amongst the big boys, and then we think we’ve got it made and we’re accepted in the big league, and if we really aren’t we can bluster away to the people for domestic political advantage, and say something different when the pollies go overseas.

        • weka 14.1.1.2

          The way I read it yesterday was that it took time to test the contamination down to the specific strains of Clostridium that can cause botulism in humans (not all do). Whether that is true, and whether it is reasonable to take that long to discern the strains, I don’t know.

  15. Rosetinted 15

    Saw that it also has affected a small amount of calf feed. All our young ones using it are potentially affected.

  16. I agree with Matthew 16

    Probably not good idea to drink the milk of another species, unless absolutely necessary.
    Human milk is always best for humans, funny that.

    • Pasupial 16.1

      @IawM

      Neither funny nor accurate.

      What is funny is the image of a 30yr old man [may not be accurate depiction] suckling dementedly while cackling: “Human milk is always best for humans”.

    • Colonial Viper 16.2

      🙂

    • weka 16.3

      “Probably not good idea to drink the milk of another species,”

      Why not?

      • Colonial Viper 16.3.1

        Not very good for you. As evidenced by the shitloads of people who find dairy derived products toxic to their bodies.

        • RedLogix 16.3.1.1

          Agreed CV. Haven’t touched the stuff in three years now. Never looking back.

          While I’m sure we can tolerate cows milk to some degree (which varies widely among the population) … equally a lot of people simply function better to some degree without it.

          Generally it’s ok if it’s really well fermented or turned into a good cheese … but otherwise I’m happier without.

        • weka 16.3.1.2

          “As evidenced by the shitloads of people who find dairy derived products toxic to their bodies.”

          But not as evidenced by the shitloads of people who find that raw, organic dairy, esp fermented, isn’t toxic to their bodies and the people who find that eating raw, organic, fermented diary removes health problems.

          Then there are the traditional cultures where (raw, organic) milk is a staple that have much better health outcomes than we do.

          By all means avoid milk if it doesn’t work for you, but don’t condemn all dairy because of the experience of part of the population. Some people do very well on dairy.

          • Colonial Viper 16.3.1.2.1

            I can’t argue against the position that for some people, dairy is great for them. But it’s not most people, by a long shot.

            Raw organic fermented dairy is a different issue again, as its already partially digested and has a much lower proportion of lactose. But what you are talking about is a tiny miniscule fraction of 1% of the dairy which is produced and consumed in NZ.

            Young children almost universally produce lactase and can digest the lactose in their mother’s milk. But as they mature, most switch off the lactase gene. Only 35% of the human population can digest lactose beyond the age of about seven or eight (ref. 2). “If you’re lactose intolerant and you drink half a pint of milk, you’re going to be really ill. Explosive diarrhoea — dysentery essentially,” says Oliver Craig, an archaeologist at the University of York, UK. “I’m not saying it’s lethal, but it’s quite unpleasant.”

            http://www.nature.com/news/archaeology-the-milk-revolution-1.13471

            • weka 16.3.1.2.1.1

              You are essentially saying that industrially produce milk is bad for many people, which I agree with but I think it’s better to be specific about that rather than condemning dairy as a class of food (which is what the original comment was). Many people who can’t tolerate cow’s milk do ok on goats milk too btw.

              “Only 35% of the human population can digest lactose beyond the age of about seven or eight”

              Globally that might be true, but I doubt it is true in NZ.

              • Colonial Viper

                You’re painfully fair minded weka.

                Admittedly I didn’t feel like making an exception for the <1% of NZ dairy consumption which is high grade organic and unprocessed, and tomorrow I still might not.

                BTW if you are not of European decent the chances that you are lactose tolerant completely nosedive.

    • karol 16.4

      Actually the issue is more about whether young children are best breast fed or fed infant formula which uses powdered milk.

      The wikip link above shows there tends to be more use of infant formula by parents/children of lower socio-economic backgrounds. I also seem to remember something I read years ago about how milk companies in relatively wealthy countries actively promote powdered milk for babies in poorer countries, as a way to increase their market reach and profits.

      it was probably something like this article from 2007:

      It was in 1977 that campaigners first called for a boycott of Nestlé because of its aggressive marketing of formula milk in the developing world. Thirty years on, have Nestlé and the other baby-milk firms cleaned up their act? Joanna Moorhead travels to Bangladesh to find out
      […]
      According to Save the Children’s report, infant mortality in Bangladesh alone could be cut by almost a third – saving the lives of 314 children every day – if breastfeeding rates were improved. Globally, the organisation believes, 3,800 lives could be saved each day. Given that world leaders are committed to cutting infant mortality by two thirds by 2015 as one of the Millennium Development Goals, protecting and promoting breastfeeding is almost certainly the biggest single thing that could be done to better child survival rates.

      But the formula companies, despite the international code, continue to undermine campaigners’ efforts. Throughout the west as well as in the developing world, the amounts spent on “breast is best” campaigns are dwarfed by the amounts food manufacturers spend on promoting their products: in the UK, for example, Save the Children reckons that for every £1 spent in 2006-7 on breastfeeding promotion, £10 was spent by manufacturers on advertising and promoting baby milk and foods.

  17. Pasupial 17

    At least one maternity ward uses Karicare products for neonates while waiting for maternal lactation to establish. Did they purchase any of this potentially contaminated Karicare Infant Formula Stage 1 in the period from 2/7 to 3/8? Did any other maternity ward in NZ?

    Fortunately my basupial wasn’t administered formula by the lactation consultants in the month of July, nor has he had that brand since he was a week old. But the thought was bad enough on Saturday that I might have been inadvertantly poisoning my child. It must be worse for those who don’t know yet… Best Wishes to them.

    • weka 17.1

      What is the risk of getting botulism from whey protein with the Clostridium bacteria in it?

      • Colonial Viper 17.1.1

        Well we do know that humans are useless at rationally evaluating possibilities. But in this case there is real uncertainty and fear (terror?) involved.

      • Pasupial 17.1.2

        @ Weka

        The risk of contracting botulism is greater for these Karicare products than for those testing negative for Clostridium Botulinum contamination.

        Not even Fonterra is suggesting that they should knowingly sell contaminated milk. My main problem is with the length of time it has taken to test the product, and Fonterra being unwilling to disrupt their supply chain soon enough to prevent the products reaching the shelves.

        Just because no one is dead yet (or on breathing machines for a month if they get to a hospital in time), doesn’t mean there is no problem.

        • weka 17.1.2.1

          I’m not suggesting that the milk not be recalled. I’m saying if you are fearful then educate yourself about the actual risk. Knowledge is power. Scaremongering by the MSM isn’t.

          I haven’t read the news today. Is anyone looking at what the actual risk is yet?

    • Rosetinted 17.2

      It used to be thought that newborns should just suck on water till the mother’s milk settled down. Mixing formula was frowned on. Now do they keep the mothers in hospital long enough to ensure all is well? It can be quite difficult getting a routine going.

  18. BLiP 18

    I blame John Key for all this, of course.

    • GregJ 18.1

      Well it would be nice for him to take the f&*king blame for something – there is plenty he is actually responsible for that he is happy to palm off to someone (everyone?) else. 😡

      • BLiP 18.1.1

        Well, he is responsible for the mess in some regards. It was his personna which ushered in the “Brighter Future” for New Zealand. At last we were to become that shareholding, capitalist-lovin’, eager participant in the ashpuhrational NZ Inc. No need for expensive public servants, we all care about each other’s safety, don’t want any red tape controls interfering with getting the job done. “What ever it takes” was John Key’s message. New Zealanders’ attention was then herded towards an imaginary mineral bonanza and booming stockmarket which would become the financial transactions ticket-collector and information-storage hub of the Pacific. Yippeee.

        As part of sparking up the stockmarket, John Key starts looking around for some assets to flog off. The one his international mates want the most is Fonterra but its being run like some sort of Marxist commune. “I know,” says Financial Whizz Kid John Key, “lets pretend that by giving away a piece of future profits farmer’s get to keep the obviously idiotic form of governance and ownership?” “Great,” say the bankers, “make it so”. And thus Fonterra swaggers into the New Zealand Stock Market Casino . . . ooops. Kinda reminds me of John Key’s plan to sell state asssets to the “mums and dads”.

        • GregJ 18.1.1.1

          Yep – my father (now retired) and my brother are dairy (factory) workers – don’t even get them started on the “privitisation” of Fonterra and (some) farmers’ short-sightedness on the issue. Haven’t touched base with them yet about the current crisis – although my brother works at Waitoa rather than Hautapu I’m sure he’ll have some tales to tell!

    • infused 18.2

      of course you would. I would be worried if you didn’t.

  19. swan 19

    I think there is a lot of dust to settle yet before we can say one way or the other what damage this might have caused. Time will tell, but there is certainly a lot of jumping to conclusions going on.

    • GregJ 19.1

      I live in the Middle East – a lot of NZ milk products sold here and already locals whom I work with are telling me they are avoiding NZ dairy products. If it drags on new habits are formed and brand loyalty forgotten – plenty of competition here from European, Chinese/Asian & South American producers.

  20. RedLogix 20

    If the root cause is what I think it is (a faulty CIP circuit or logic) …then all I can say is that Fonterra have had this coming for some years. Lots of very good and capable people work for the NZ Dairy Industry, but they’ve been spread too thin. And as a result there were lots of unmanaged risks.

    Yet the stupid part is that for the most part the industry in this country is still WAY better than it is in most of the rest of the world. They do not measure nor report their product failures to anything like the standard we generally do.

    • vto 20.1

      RL… “Yet the stupid part is that for the most part the industry in this country is still WAY better than it is in most of the rest of the world. They do not measure nor report their product failures to anything like the standard we generally do.”

      Why is it that we in NZ think our shit don’t stink? Or that we think we have the best farmers in the world? The best scientists in the world? The least corruption? The best democratic system? The cleanest rivers? The best fishing?

      The bit you have stated there RL……. pardon me if I don’t believe it.

      Most of the other similar kiwi myths are steadily collapsing under their own rust ……..

  21. Rich 21

    “how can u tell ur baby has bees affected by botulism? ”

    They twitch, turn blue and die.

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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • More secrecy
    The government introduced a Racing Industry Bill today. As an urban who horse racing as pointless-to-cruel, and gambling as a tax on stupidity and/or hope, this isn't normally a bill which would interest me in the slightest, beyond grumpiness at more government money for a dying industry. But there is ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Unlikely online bully, Liam Hehir
    Check. Check. One, two, three, four. Is this thing ON? Hello readers, I logged in last night (yeah, it’s been a while) to mark THE END of the landmark legal case, Jordan Williams v Colin Craig, which (gulp) reached The Supreme Court, in which New Zealand’s most-defamed man was suing the politician he ...
    The PaepaeBy Peter Aranyi
    1 week ago
  • The Birth Of Israel: Wrong At The Right Time.
    Before The Birth: Israel’s most fervent supporters set their clocks ticking in Biblical times. They cite the kingdoms of David and Solomon as proof that, in the words of the Exodus movie’s theme-song: “This land is mine.” The majority of Israel’s backers, however, start their clocks in 1933 – the year Adolf ...
    1 week ago
  • Hard News: Public Address Word of the Year 2019: Korero phase
    In an unreliable, strange and confusing world, Public Address is proud to present a measure of comfort and stability by annually asking everyone what words or phrases sum up the year that's been – and then giving some of them consumer goods as prizes for being clever or simply lucky.Well, ...
    1 week ago
  • Generalist to specialist
    Both my parents are pretty handy – and they seem to have the right tools for most jobs in the garage and they know how to fix practically anything. A similar story could be told about their generation’s experience in the workforce – being a generalist was not unusual and ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • A “coincidence”
    When it was revealed that NZ First had tried to enrich itself from public office via the Provoncial Growth Fund, the Prime Minister assured us that everything was OK as Shane Jones, the Minister responsible for the fund, had recused himself. Except it seems that that recusal came very late ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day
    Today is a Member's Day, and probably the last one of the year. After the marathon of the End of Life Choice Act, most of the bills up for debate today are uncontentious. First up is the second reading of Chlöe Swarbrick's Election Access Fund Bill. This will be followed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Worse than I thought
    The Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee has reported back on the government's odious and tyrannical control orders bill. As expected, the fraudulent select committee process has made no significant changes (partly because they couldn't agree, but mostly because it was a stitch-up from the start, with no intention of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The cannabis bill and the referendum
    Yesterday, the government released its draft Cannabis Legalisation and Control Bill, which will be put to a non-binding referendum at the next election. I'm not a drug policy expert, but Russell Brown is, and he thinks its pretty good. And pretty obviously, it will be a massive improvement on the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Hard News: The Cannabis Legalisation and Control Bill: pretty good so far
    As you're probably aware, the draft bill outlining the proposed legal cannabis regime to be put to a referendum late next year was published yesterday, and has already attracted a flurry of comment. It's notable that a good deal of the comment is about proposals that aren't actually new.A minimum ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Alignment
    One of the big problems in New Zealand climate change policy is the government working at cross-purposes with itself. It wants to reduce fossil fuel use, but encourages oil and gas exploration. It wants to reduce transport emissions, but then builds enormous new roads. The problem could be avoided if ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • How climate change will affect food production and security
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz According to the United Nations, food shortages are a threat ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • More bad faith
    Last year, the government announced it was ending offshore oil exploration by no longer issuing new permits. The idea was that the industry would then die off as permits expired. Except almost immediately the government revealed its bad faith, by saying they would extend permits and alter conditions to keep ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Banning foreign money from our elections
    The government has said it will ban foreign donations to political parties and candidates, and will be introducing legislation to be passed under all-stages urgency this afternoon. While I agree with the goal, I don't see a particular case for urgency, unless the government is concerned about a flood of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Reforming the Education Acts
    The government introduced the Education and Training Bill to Parliament yesterday. Its a massive bill, which replaces both existing Education Acts, as well as various other bits of legislation (including some which are still proceeding through the House). I'll leave the serious analysis to teachers and people who actually know ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Bite-sized learning
    Amelia SharmanThere’s no one-size-fits-all when it comes to micro-credentials, those bits of bite-sized learning that can help workers stay on top of technological change.  What’s a micro-credential? While definitions vary, micro-credentials can be understood as short courses that allow people to learn new skills or have an existing competency recognised. ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • “Not The Labour Party We Once Knew.”
    All Smiles Now: Claire Szabo is taking up her presidential role after serving as the CEO of Habitat For Humanity. Which is absolutely perfect! After KiwiBuild was so comprehensively mismanaged by Phil Twyford, the party has not only elected a new president from a thoroughly respectable not-for-profit, but one who ...
    1 week ago
  • Marxist versus liberal methodology on transgender ideology/identity politics
    While much of the NZ left has transitioned to postmodern and identity politics in relation to transgender ideology, there are some very good articles about that deploy Marxist methodology in relation to this subject.  The one below is from the British marxist group Counterfire and appeared on their site here ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Book review: The Farm by Joanne Ramos
    by Daphna Whitmore At Golden Oaks, a luxurious country retreat in the Hudson Valley, pregnant women have the best care money can buy. From the organic food, personalised exercise programmes, private yoga instruction and daily massages Golden Oaks looks like a country lodge for the upper class. Set some time ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Loosening the purse strings
    When Labour was running for election in 2017, it felt it needed to demonstrate "fiscal responsibility" and signed itself up to masochistic "budget responsibility rules". It was a fool's errand: the sorts of voters who demand fiscal responsibility are also the sorts of voters who believe that labour can never ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: How to get there
    Writing in Stuff, Joel MacManus looks at what we need to do to meet the Zero Carbon Act's targets. The core of it:1. Convert 85 per cent of vehicles on the road to electric. 2. Eliminate fossil fuels from all industrial heating up to 300 degrees Celsius. 3. Double our ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • anti-vaxxers in a measles epidemic: so many ways to be untruthful
    “Anti-vaxers are a pro-death movement,” those comments from Dr Helen Petousis-Harris speaking about six more Measles related deaths in Samoa over the past twenty-four hours. “Anti-vaxers are a pro-death movement,” those comments from Dr Helen Petousis-Harris speaking about six more Measles related deaths in Samoa ...
    SciBlogsBy Alison Campbell
    1 week ago
  • Is Youth Vaping a Problem in New Zealand?
    Professors Janet Hoek and Richard Edwards, Emeritus Professor Phil Gendall, Jude Ball, Dr Judith McCool, Anaru Waa, Dr Becky Freeman Recent media reports have presented conflicting evidence on youth vaping in NZ. While some NZ school principals report concerns about increasing vaping on school grounds and confiscating vapes, ASH Year ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • In pursuit of “Freedom and Democracy”: Forever Wars in “America’s backyard”.
    “America the Beautiful!”, staunch defender of democracy, freedom and… a whole lot of despotic tyrants that play nice with what is called “the Washington Consensus.” America is indeed capable of immense good, but like any Nation, and most assuredly any aspirant to the mantle of Empire, great, immense evil. All ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 weeks ago
  • November ’19 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
    Image credit: The beginner’s guide to blogging I notice a few regulars no longer allow public access to the site counters. This may happen accidentally when the blog format is altered. If your blog is ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Whodunnit? Finding the mystery 1080 testing lab
    1080 is used to control pests in NZ. Its use is contested by a noisy few. A new report claims high levels of 1080 in rats washed up on a beach. Flora and Fauna of Aotearoa (F&F) won’t name the laboratory that did their testing. It has sparked a hunt ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    2 weeks ago
  • Authoritarian Friends, Democratic Enemies.
    What Kind Of Empire? The thing for Kiwis to decide is what kind of empire they want to belong to. The kind that, while offering its own citizens democratic rights, demands absolute obedience from its “friends”? Or, the kind that, while authoritarian at home, takes a relaxed attitude to the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Boris Johnson Goes Down
    It hasn't been a good week for the Conservatives, pollwise.  All major recent polls are showing their lead shrinking.Comparing each pollster's current (between 29/11 and 22/11) and previous most recent poll.Com Res - Conservative lead down 3 points.You Gov - Conservative lead down 1 point.Kantar - Conservative lead down 4 ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Interesting
    Within quick succession, Countdown maths wizard and twitterer Rachel Riley, alleged comedian David Baddiel and prominent lawyer Andrew Julius have all expressed very similar opinions / ideas:
    These #3billboards are going round London today, organised by ex-Labour people, horrified by what their party has become. Their principles haven’t changed, they’re ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Damn the Polls
    So, there have been a bunch of bad polls out for Labour, and even the Leftie's friend, Survation, have recently given the Conservatives a rip-snorting 11% lead.  You Gov's much vaunted MRP poll - which pretty much nailed the result in 2015 - is currently predicting a comfortable majority for ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Europe declares an emergency
    The European Parliament has voted overwhelmingly to declare a climate emergency:The European parliament has declared a global “climate and environmental emergency” as it urged all EU countries to commit to net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. The vote came as scientists warned that the world may have already crossed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Bi-Partisan Commitment To X-ing “P”.
    Pure Fear: Worse than Heroin, this drug’s addictive power was terrifying. People under its influence didn’t drift off to Elysium. Nor did it persuade inadequate individuals that they could conquer the world. No, this drug – pure crystal methamphetamine, “P” for short – unlocked the gates of Hell itself. It ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Advice about measles: when ignorance is definitely not a virtue
    As the rate of measles infection, and of deaths, continues to climb in Samoa, antivaccination activists infectious disease proponents seem intent on doubling down on their claims about vaccination. (Check pretty much any news-media FB post about measles & you’ll see exactly what I mean.) Unfortunately, some of them have ...
    SciBlogsBy Alison Campbell
    2 weeks ago
  • Samoa’s devastating measles epidemic – why and how bad?
    Samoa are experiencing a devastating measles epidemic. It is possible that 2-3% of the population will ultimately be infected by the time it is over. Hopefully the mass immunisation campaign currently under way can mitigate some of this, for many it is too late. The first question many people ask ...
    SciBlogsBy Helen Petousis Harris
    2 weeks ago
  • “It’s basic rights we are defending”: the Meghan Murphy interview
    Meghan Murphy is a Canadian writer and journalist She runs the Feminist Current website which she founded in 2012.  She was a keynote speaker for the Feminism2020 conference in Wellington this month. When Massey University cancelled the original venue booking Feminism2020 was hosted in Parliament by MP David Seymour. Meghan ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • A week of protests in Colombia
    Text and photos by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh Colombia has lived through one week of protests against the economic measures taken by president Duque. What looked like a protest that would fizzle out after its first day on November 21st is still going strong. Part of the reason for the continuance ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago

  • New infrastructure funding tool to build housing developments faster
    A new tool to help councils fund and finance infrastructure could mean some housing developments happen a decade earlier than currently planned, Urban Development Minister Phil Twyford said today. “This new tool, developed by the Government in partnership with industry and high-growth councils, will allow councils to access private debt ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    36 mins ago
  • NZ congratulates PNG and Autonomous Bougainville Government on referendum
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has congratulated the Government of Papua New Guinea and the Autonomous Bougainville Government for completing a well-conducted referendum on the future political status of Bougainville. “New Zealand supported the referendum process by providing technical advice through the New Zealand Electoral Commission and leading a Regional Police ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 hours ago
  • Next steps for Upper North Island logistics
    In light of Cabinet’s position that freight operations on prime land in downtown Auckland are no longer viable, the Government will now embark on a short work programme to enable decision-making in the first half of next year, Associate Transport Minister Shane Jones says. Minister Jones is today releasing the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 hours ago
  • Surgical mesh restorative justice report received
    Associate Health Minister Julie Anne Genter has received the report back from a surgical mesh restorative justice process undertaken by Victoria University. The process heard stories, either in person or online submission, from more than 600 people affected by surgical mesh. “The report made for heart-breaking and confronting reading,” says ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 hours ago
  • The Water Services Regulator Bill – Taumata Arowai a milestone for drinking water safety
    The Water Services Regulator Bill – Taumata Arowai , introduced to Parliament today, is a milestone for drinking water safety in New Zealand and will help improve environmental outcomes for urban waterways, rivers and lakes.  “This is a breakthrough for New Zealanders in terms of providing safe drinking water throughout ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 hours ago
  • Speech to new direction for criminal justice reform announcement
    Kia ora koutouE ngā mana, e ngā reo, e ngā matā wakaTēnā koutou katoaHaere ngā, moe maiKoutou ma ngā Rangatira Ko Anaru ahauKo au te Minita mo ngā TureHe Honore tino nui kei roto I ahau No reira tena koutou katoa Today, we are releasing two reports that are the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 hours ago
  • New direction for criminal justice reform
    The Government is looking to turn around the long-term challenges of criminal justice by taking a new approach to break the cycle of offending to ensure there are fewer victims of crime. Justice Minister Andrew Little released two reports today, Turuki! Turuki! from Te Uepū Hāpai I te Ora, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 hours ago
  • New law sets up $300m Venture Capital Fund
    New Zealand firms expanding beyond the start-up phase are set for more support after today’s passage of the Venture Capital Fund Bill, Associate Finance Minister David Parker said. The Bill, which establishes a $300 million Venture Capital Fund, puts in place a key initiative of the Wellbeing Budget’s economic package. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    21 hours ago
  • New Zealand’s National Statement to COP25
    E ngā mana, e ngā reo, e ngā iwi, e ngā rau rangatira mā. Tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou katoa. Señora Presidenta, Excellencies, Delegates. International action A common thread that runs through the Paris Agreement is the commitment we have made to each other to do what we can to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    23 hours ago
  • $12 billion in extra infrastructure investment
    The Government is lifting capital investment to the highest level in more than 20 years as it takes the next step to future-proof New Zealand. Finance Minister Grant Robertson has announced $12 billion of new investment, with $8 billion for specific capital projects and $4 billion to be added to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Strong economy, careful spending gives $12bn of surpluses
    The Government is forecast to run $12 billion worth of surpluses across the four years to 2023/24 as the economy continues to grow. The surpluses will help fund day-to-day capital requirements each year. These include fixing leaky hospitals, building new classrooms to cover population growth and take pressure off class ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Priorities for 2020 Wellbeing Budget outlined
    Budget 2020 will continue the Coalition Government’s focus on tackling the long-term challenges facing New Zealand while also investing to future-proof the economy. When the Government took office in 2017 it was left with crumbling infrastructure, severe underinvestment in public services, degraded rivers and lakes, a housing crisis and rising ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Minister welcomes data-rich coastline mapping tool
    The Minister responsible for the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Act 2011 (te Takutai Moana Act 2011), Andrew Little has welcomed the launch of an online geospatial tool that provides data-rich, dynamic coastline maps that will significantly boost research and evidence-gathering under the Act. Te Kete Kōrero a Te ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Chief Victims Advisor reappointed for a further two years
    The Chief Victims Advisor to Government Dr Kim McGregor, QSO, has been reappointed in her role for a further two years. Dr McGregor has held the role since it was established in November 2015. She provides independent advice to government on how to improve the criminal justice system for victims. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • New Zealand tsunami monitoring and detection system to be established
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters and Civil Defence Minister Peeni Henare have today announced the deployment of a network of DART (Deep-ocean Assessment and Reporting of Tsunami) buoys. “New Zealand and the Pacific region are particularly vulnerable to natural disasters. It is vital we have adequate warning systems in place,” ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • DART Buoys Announcement
    DART Buoys Announcement Aotea Wharf, 9.30am 11 December 2019   Acknowledgements Acknowledgements to Minister for Civil Defence Hon Peeni Henare also here today. White Island It is with regret that this event shadows the tragic natural disaster two days ago. The volcanic eruptions on White Island have claimed 5 lives, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Final steps for racing industry reform
    Racing Minister Winston Peters has welcomed the first reading of the Racing Industry Bill in parliament today. This is the second of two Bills that have been introduced this year to revitalise New Zealand’s racing industry. “Our domestic racing industry has been in serious decline.  The Government is committed to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Funding to promote New Zealand Sign Language initiatives
    Minister for Disability Issues, Carmel Sepuloni, is pleased to announce that $291,321 is to be awarded to national and local community initiatives to maintain and promote the use of New Zealand Sign Language (NZSL). “New Zealand is one of the few countries  in the world where Sign Language is an ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • How New Zealand defines and recognises veterans
    Minister for Veterans Ron Mark has announced today the Coalition Government’s initial response to work completed by the independent statutory body, the Veterans’ Advisory Board. “When Professor Ron Paterson completed his review of the Veterans’ Support Act in 2018, he made a number of recommendations, including one which I referred ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Government to fund lion’s share of Ohakea water scheme
    The Government will fund the bulk of the cost of a rural water supply for the Ohakea community affected by PFAS contamination, Environment Minister David Parker announced today at a meeting of local residents. This new water scheme will provide a reliable and clean source of drinking water to the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Prime Minister statement on White Island eruption
    I have had the opportunity to be briefed on the details of the volcanic eruption of Whakaari/White Island, off the coast of Whakatane in the Bay of Plenty.  The eruption happened at 2.11pm today.  It continues to be an evolving situation.  We know that there were a number of tourists ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Govt funds $100k for weather-hit communities
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Minister of Civil Defence Peeni Henare have today confirmed initial Government support of $100,000 for communities affected by the severe weather that swept across the South Island and lower North Island over the weekend. The contribution will be made to Mayoral relief funds across the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Death of NZ High Commissioner to Cook Islands
    New Zealand's High Commissioner to the Cook Islands, Tessa Temata, died in Palmerston North over the weekend, Foreign Minister Winston Peters said today. Ms Temata, 52, had recently returned to New Zealand for medical treatment. "On behalf of the Government and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, we extend ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Wellington rail upgrade full steam ahead
    Transport Minister Phil Twyford today announced construction is underway on Wellington commuter rail upgrades which will mean more frequent services and fewer breakdowns. The upgrades include converting the Trentham to Upper Hutt single track section to a double track, with a new signalling system, upgraded stations and level crossings, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Defence Climate Change Implementation Plan released
    Minister of Defence Ron Mark and Minister for Climate Change James Shaw have announced the release of a Defence Climate Change Implementation Work Plan, titled Responding to the Climate Crisis: An Implementation Plan.  The plan sets out a series of recommendations based on the 2018 New Zealand Defence Assessment, The ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Govt releases funding to support South Canterbury
    A medium-scale adverse event has been declared for the South Canterbury district, which will see up to $50,000 in funding made available to support farming communities which have been significantly affected by recent heavy rain and flooding in the area, says Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor. “Two weeks of solid rain ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Speech at launch of Rethinking Plastics Report
    Thank you Professor Juliet Gerrard and your team for the comprehensive and extremely helpful report and recommendations. Thank you too to all the stakeholders and interested parties who have contributed ideas and thinking to it. “Making best practice, standard practice” is a great framework for change and the action plan ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Govt pledges next steps on plastic waste
    The Government will phase out more single-use plastics following the success of its single-use plastic bag ban earlier this year and the release today of a pivotal report for dealing with waste. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has welcomed the Rethinking Plastics in Aotearoa New Zealandreport, released by her Chief Science Advisor ...
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    4 days ago
  • International student enrolments grow in universities and the regions
    International education continues to thrive as the Government focuses on quality over quantity, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said. The tuition revenue from international education increased to $1.16 billion last year with the average tuition fee per student increasing by $960. The total number of international students enrolled in New Zealand ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Speech to Government Economics Network 2019 Conference
    I want to talk about one of the most pressing issues in our national life: the housing crisis and the poor performance of our cities. The argument I want to make to you is that generations of urban land use policy have lacked a decent grounding in economics. The consequences ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • DHB leadership renewed and strengthened
    Health Minister Dr David Clark says new appointments to DHBs represent a significant changing of the guard, with 13 new chairs including four Māori chairs. Today 76 appointments have been announced to complement elected board members, as well as eight elected members appointed as either chair or deputy chair.  Four ...
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    5 days ago
  • Tabuteau to advance New Zealand’s trade and political interests with European partners
    Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Foreign Affairs, Fletcher Tabuteau, is travelling to Germany, Poland, Austria, and Spain next week to bolster New Zealand’s political and trade relationships in Europe. While in Spain, Mr Tabuteau will represent New Zealand at the 14th Asia-Europe (ASEM) Foreign Ministers’ Meeting in Madrid. “New Zealand strongly supports ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Statement from the Prime Minister on Kris Faafoi
    “I’ve spoken to Minister Faafoi, who has apologised for his poor handling of this issue,” Jacinda Ardern said. “I have confidence in Kris as a hardworking and effective Minister, but this should have been dealt with in a much clearer manner, and I’ve made my views on that very clear ...
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    6 days ago
  • Tonga-New Zealand Joint Ministerial Forum
    Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters met with Tongan Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Pohiva Tu'i'onetoa in Wellington today. The pair signed a Statement of Partnership setting out joint priorities for cooperation out to 2023.  “We welcomed Prime Minister Tu'i'onetoa on his first visit to New Zealand as Prime Minister. Tonga ...
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    6 days ago
  • Shooting in Kurow
    The Minister of Police Stuart Nash says his sympathies are with the family of a man who died after being shot by Police in Kurow. “Initial reports are that Police were called by a family member to help the man who was threatening to harm himself,” Mr Nash says. “However ...
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    6 days ago
  • Government delivers funding boost for ethnic communities
    Ethnic communities will be able to plan and deliver more community initiatives thanks to an increase in Government funding, Minister for Ethnic Communities Hon Jenny Salesa said today. “Ensuring Aotearoa New Zealand is a place we can all be proud to call home has been a key priority of our ...
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    6 days ago
  • Govt supports Southland farmers in sustainability
    Healthier waterways, better productivity and farmer wellbeing are front and centre in a new project involving more than 1000 Southland farmers and growers. Minister of Agriculture Damien O’Connor today announced that the Thriving Southland Change and Innovation Project is the first region-wide extension programme supported by the $229 million Sustainable ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Flood of support for Top of the South catchment
    Work to look after nature and restore freshwater quality in Te Hoiere/Pelorus River catchment is getting a significant boost, thanks to new Government funding support Minister for Conservation Eugenie Sage announced in Canvastown today. “Every New Zealander should be able to swim in their local river without getting sick, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Eight Queen’s Counsel appointed under new criterion
    Eight Queen’s Counsel have been appointed under a process that includes the new criterion of a commitment to improving access to justice, Attorney-General David Parker announced today. “The new criterion was included this year. It emphasises that excellence and leadership in the profession can be seen through a wider, community ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Major expansion for Wellington’s Onslow College
    Onslow College in Wellington will get 20 new classrooms for more than 400 students, Education Minister Chris Hipkins announced today. The much-needed investment will relieve growth pressure the school has been experiencing for some time. Seven existing classrooms which have deteriorated over time will also be replaced, bringing the total ...
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    1 week ago