Daily review 03/11/2021

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1. weka 1

   3 November 2021 at 6:19 pm

   https://twitter.com/radionz/status/1455754134955511816
   • Cricklewood 1.1

     3 November 2021 at 7:58 pm

     Have to laugh at that… 30000 vehicles trying to meet a time slot at a checkpoint…

     Imagine traffic a bit heavy and you get 'sorry ' you're 30min late turn around…

     But seriously there will be deliberate protest action on the roads leading to and near the border. It's going to be chaos.

     Only takes 100 or so cars to cause huge tailbacks.
   • higherstandard 1.2

     3 November 2021 at 8:03 pm

     Muppets.
2. Byd0nz 2

   3 November 2021 at 6:45 pm

   With the Summit over climate change, I have not heard a word on how much pollution is caused by the militaries of the world with the constant war games and non stop air patrols cruising the globe, but it must have some sort of percentage adding to the total.

   Disarmament items and protest is hardly heard or written about by the journalists of the world, but disarmament would go a long way in creating a better future as would a world without money system, but of course we are still in the primitive stage of evolution where individual greed is forefront.
   • Ad 2.1

     3 November 2021 at 7:11 pm

     U.S. military is its worst carbon emitter in the country.

     Second Opinion: Here's how the U.S. military can better fight the 'existential threat' of climate change – Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)
3. weka 3

   3 November 2021 at 7:16 pm

   Map of vaccination rates and numbers by DHB, town or suburb.

   https://covid19map.co.nz/vaccination-rates/dhb/
   • Rosemary McDonald 3.1

     3 November 2021 at 8:25 pm

     Latest Covid 19 vaccine Safety Report.

     They do an in depth whatever on myo and pericardiditis'''as well they ought, considering. They include this advisory…

     Please seek immediate medical attention if you experience new onset chest pain, shortness of breath or an abnormal heartbeat after vaccination with Comirnaty. These are potential signs of myocarditis and pericarditis.

     Sadly, it would seem ( ok, anecdotally, from young people who have been vaccinated) that vaccinators are not necessarily impressing upon young vaccine recipients the importance of seeking medical attention should these symptoms appear.

     None of the approximately 10 people I have spoken to who had some of these symptoms were a) warned to seek medical attention and b) actually made a report of this adverse effect.

     Also this report breaks down who it is making these reports.

     About a third are made by the vaccine recipient, another third by the vaccinator and the rest by doctors, nurses, 'other' etc.

     Oh, and there are a total of 94 deaths reported…
     • higherstandard 3.1.1

       3 November 2021 at 8:33 pm

       From the medsafe website

       Summary of reported deaths

       Up to and including 16 October 2021, a total of 94 deaths were reported to CARM after the administration of the Comirnaty vaccine. Following medical assessments by CARM and Medsafe it has been determined that:

       • 40 of these deaths are unlikely related to the COVID-19 vaccine
       • 38 deaths could not be assessed due to insufficient information
       • 15 cases are still under investigation.
       • 1 death was likely due to vaccine induced myocarditis (awaiting Coroner’s determination)

       By chance, some people will experience new illnesses or die from a pre-existing condition shortly after vaccination, especially if they are elderly. Therefore, part of our review process includes comparing natural death rates to observed death rates following vaccination, to determine if there are any specific trends or patterns that might indicate a vaccine safety concern.

       To date, the observed number of deaths reported after vaccination is actually less than the expected number of natural deaths.
     • weka 3.1.2

       3 November 2021 at 9:59 pm

       tbf, and it's bizarre, that sounds like standard practice for pharmaceuticals. How many people are told about side effects, or read the data sheet in the packed with the drugs? We take a lot on faith, many people are ok, some get burned, some badly.

       I have low confidence that reactions in chronically ill people are being monitored well.
       • Rosemary McDonald 3.1.2.1

         4 November 2021 at 9:03 am

         How many people are told about side effects, or read the data sheet in the packed with the drugs
         I most definitely do. There has been at least three occasions over the past few years when Peter has been prescribed drug without that could have harmed or killed him because the doctor had neglected to check contra-indications or a pre existing condition. The scariest one was a doctor busy writing out a script for a drug to manage the very occasional very high blood pressure Peter can get as a result of autonomic dysreflexia. The quack doctor had not read Peter's hospital notes and seen that on more than one occasion his BP on a routine check can be so low the machine can't read it. His magic pills would have killed him.

         Word to the wise..always, always, always ask for the ward/surgery copy of New Ethicals to check for yourself when receiving a new prescription.

         One young friend, post vaccine, had heart palpitations, shortness of breath and severe pain in her arm and shoulder. She was told it was stress and anxiety and although she was eventually put on a heart monitor for a day or two…that 'diagnosis' persisted. She collapsed at work unable to breathe properly and an ambulance was called. The paramedics said they were seeing a lot of SOB to the point of collapse…

         As usual, vaccine side effects will be downplayed, denied, deflected and minimised. Trouble is…with this particular vaccine there are so many folks having adverse reactions they will be hard to ignore.

         Having monitored the vaccine roll out world wide…there seems to be a slow down to an almost halt point at about 69% double jabbed. Many are not going back for their second shot. Mandates and stand over tactics should not be needed if the vaccines were so incredibly safe and effective for all.

         Most people needing a third dose after six months is going to be a hard sell.
4. joe90 4

   3 November 2021 at 7:24 pm

   Youngkin ran on the evils of an arcane academic theory. It worked.

   https://twitter.com/TheGoodLiars/status/1455243036795998212

   CBS News projected that Republican Glenn Youngkin won the governor's race against former Governor Terry McAuliffe in Virginia, a state President Biden won by 10 points in 2020.

   https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/election-day-2021-results-virginia-governor-new-jersey/
5. higherstandard 5

   3 November 2021 at 8:04 pm

   Congratulations to the WA police – what a heart warming outcome.
   • Anker 5.1

     3 November 2021 at 9:43 pm

     HIgher standard isn't just brilliant. Incredible Cleo was found alive and well, although I hate to think of how traumatic it would have been for her, not to mention her parents
6. Pete 6

   3 November 2021 at 8:17 pm

   If you're against Covid vaccinations and you're not going to have one why do you need to go and protest when the PM comes to town? Is that meant to persuade her of anything?

   Or is it to make a noise to simply show you're not going to have one?
   • Cricklewood 6.1

     3 November 2021 at 8:32 pm

     There are a number of people who are anti mandate rather than anti vax and others that are anti vax. Essentially the groups are slowly coalescing and gaining momentum. There are enough now to cause absolute chaos.

     They're also well within their rights to protest they will likely picket Jacinda's home while she's in Auckland as did AAAP when John Key was PM. Call it democratic engagement.
     • observer 6.1.1

       3 November 2021 at 10:00 pm

       Sure, democratic engagement. How did that work out for the protesters outside his home? Key won 3 elections.

       How would you define "absolute chaos"? For the opposition, yes. Every National MP has been vaccinated, they are not an anti-vax party at all. But the headlines are being grabbed by the frothing fringe, not the Parliamentary opposition. Labour couldn't buy the positive optics Ardern is getting … the contrast is between the PM calmly encouraging vaccination and her "opposition" holding placards saying "Nazi" and "Great Reset" and screaming at cameras.

       David Seymour would chase any passing car for a photo op, but even he is carefully avoiding this one. That tells us all we need to know about how much support they really have. Even Hipango jumped back into her car and fled, once she saw who the Whanganui protesters were.
       • Cricklewood 6.1.1.1

         3 November 2021 at 10:11 pm

         Im not saying it will workoutfor them, but they could and probably will cause chaos for Aucklanders at large, if say the 5000 that wandered through Newmarket marched onto the motorway, or diwn to the port and clogged the freight for example, or a few hundred cars decide to clog the borders at xmas…. it will get ugly fast.
         • observer 6.1.1.1.1

           3 November 2021 at 10:25 pm

           Sure, it doesn't take many people to block roads and annoy everyone else. They are stupid enough to do it.

           The public will detest them for it, and National will (privately) detest them even more. It can only benefit the government to have the "debate" framed as "sensible versus selfish".
   • alwyn 6.2

     3 November 2021 at 8:42 pm

     I don't know whether this is an accurate report of what Ardern did say but

     "Jacinda Ardern told ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Meghan this morning that the Government was still working through the logistics of enabling Aucklanders to leave the city and visit friends and family for Christmas and over summer – but it would only apply to those who were double jabbed and had returned a negative Covid-19 test."

     I you are told that you are a second class citizen and that you couldn't leave where you live because you hadn't had 2 vaccinations I can see why you would be pissed off. After all it is quite clear that people who are fully vaccinated can carry the virus and pass it on. They just won't get as badly affected if they get the disease.
     • I Feel Love 6.2.1

       3 November 2021 at 9:13 pm

       & also less likely to become infected.

       A "second class citizen" ffs, news from the "bought off MSM"? Interesting times.
     • KJT 6.2.2

       3 November 2021 at 11:42 pm

       "It is quite clear that people who are fully vaccinated … can pass it on".

       Yes, but they are several times less, likely to pass it on. Which is the point you are trying to obfuscate.
7. arkie 7

   3 November 2021 at 8:29 pm

   A great example of the science of traditional practices!

   New research shows the matalafi plant, widely used in traditional medicine for treating inflammation, works in a similar way to ibuprofen.

   Led by Sāmoan scientist Dr Seeseei Molimau-Samasoni, the research looked at how the matalafi plant worked at a molecular level when used as medication.

   Traditionally, the leaves of the plant are ground into a paste which is applied topically to treat inflammation associated with a range of ailments including skin infections, fever, body aches and wounds.

   While it has been used for generations in Sāmoa, no formal western scientific research has occurred.

   https://www.renews.co.nz/traditional-samoan-medicinal-plant-found-to-be-as-effective-as-ibuprofen/
   • Sabine 7.1

     3 November 2021 at 8:50 pm

     yes, that would be a good tree to have in ones garden.
     • Cricklewood 7.1.1

       3 November 2021 at 9:06 pm

       Our very own Kawakawa, Macropiper excelsum has similar medicinal properties.

       I can thoroughly recommend steeping a bunch of leaves in a hot bath before jumping in. Pro tip choose leaves from plants which have plenty of caterpillar holes is triggers a defence mechanism in the plant amplifying its medicinal properties.
   • KJT 7.2

     3 November 2021 at 11:47 pm

     Do you really think that Samoans, or the people who found that tree bark was a pain killer, didn't use a process of experimentation and observation over a period?

     Same as "Western" scientists. Who actually were not originally "Western" at all.
     • arkie 7.2.1

       4 November 2021 at 8:17 am

       No you miss understand me. I was demonstrating that traditional knowledge is science. This is a description of the biochemical mechanisms, using modern technology, for those who dismiss the science of traditional practices.
       • KJT 7.2.1.1

         4 November 2021 at 5:02 pm

         I would go with that.

         Just one example. Polynesian Navigation was an impressive scientific feat on it's own. Which as someone who "did it for a living" pre GPS, I can fully appreciate.
8. Cricklewood 8

   3 November 2021 at 9:12 pm

   Unemployment numbers perhaps not all they seem… https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/as-many-as-45000-missing-from-unemployment-stats-maori-undercounted/6HMNQIMO7CZOHRSAVTPXRFGIT4/
   • Ad 8.1

     3 November 2021 at 10:15 pm

     Excellent read thankyou and makes a lot of intuitive sense.
   • Jester 8.2

     4 November 2021 at 7:54 am

     So are the people on job seeker benefit not included as unemployed?
     • Cricklewood 8.2.1

       4 November 2021 at 9:33 am

       As I understand it not if they do a a little bit of paid work say 1 or 2 hrs per week.
       • Jester 8.2.1.1

         4 November 2021 at 4:51 pm

         That certainly changes the percentage if they were included!

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