Daily Review 04/02/2019

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1. mickysavage 1

   4 February 2019 at 5:36 pm

   Photo courtesy of the uber talented Glenn Jeffrey.
   • Anne 1.1

     4 February 2019 at 5:45 pm

     lols lols.

     Poor old Brash. He does lend himself to ridicule though.
     • DJ Ward 1.1.1

       4 February 2019 at 10:23 pm

       Unlike Simon he didn’t have to bullshit filling his glass.
2. mary_a 2

   4 February 2019 at 5:47 pm

   I have yet to see a more appropriate “name/caption” accompanying a picture, as that above 🙂
   • Kat 2.1

     4 February 2019 at 6:03 pm

     Cock AND Bull………………
   • mickysavage 2.2

     4 February 2019 at 6:04 pm

     Mate of mine took the photo. He says the secret is to be patient and wait for the perfect moment …
     • veutoviper 2.2.1

       4 February 2019 at 6:12 pm

       Has your mate copyrighted, trademarked it etc?

       He could make a fortune!!! Wonderful!!!!
     • Muttonbird 2.2.2

       4 February 2019 at 7:00 pm

       The decisive moment.

       Experienced photographers are able to use that experience to anticipate what is going to happen in front of them.

       Story telling in pictures.
     • mary_a 2.2.3

       5 February 2019 at 9:07 pm

       ‘ere take a gander at me ol’ Cock ‘avin’ a sup …

       Many thanks to your extremely clever friend MS (2.2), for providing some light and quite humorous entertainment.
   • vto 2.3

     4 February 2019 at 6:45 pm

     ha ha reminds me of one I saw once of Helen Clark standing in front of a female dog…

     so funny this stuff

     and grown up

     no wonder it never ends

     the cycles

     of abuse

     and

     degradation

     all in good fun though eh yeah nah
3. Muttonbird 3

   4 February 2019 at 6:57 pm

   Yeah so I asked the question yesterday whether the invite to Don Brash was a publicity stunt and received some thoughts from other commenters that no, it was just an exercise in free speech.

   But then this.

   https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/381706/destiny-church-leader-brian-tamaki-will-bring-issues-to-waitangi-shane-jones

   Ngapuhi seems determined to get as many eyeballs on Waitangi this year as possible and I do now wonder if it might conveniently distract from the Prime Minister’s efforts there.
   • Muttonbird 3.1

     4 February 2019 at 7:14 pm

     Maybe we could get Marama Fox to drive Bishop Tamaki to Waitangi. 😈
     • Gabby 3.1.1

       4 February 2019 at 7:37 pm

       Like he won’t arrive by helicopter? Come on.
       • Blazer 3.1.1.1

         4 February 2019 at 8:57 pm

         He will arrive on a Harley Davidson…with Lorde on the..back.
     • Pat 3.1.2

       4 February 2019 at 7:49 pm

       bit harsh….most wouldnt have their conviction on the evening news and be required to give a statement
       • Muttonbird 3.1.2.1

         4 February 2019 at 8:42 pm

         Well if you are going to represent the public then you’d better scrub up well.
         • Pat 3.1.2.1.1

           4 February 2019 at 8:44 pm

           an ex politician makes a very common mistake…..emphasis on the ex
           • Muttonbird 3.1.2.1.1.1

             4 February 2019 at 8:52 pm

             I met Marama Fox in the weeks before the last election and her positioning was with the National Party. That might have coloured my opinion but I don’t have much sympathy for her fall from grace.
             • Pat …

               4 February 2019 at 8:55 pm

               that would appear obvious….shes one of around 17000 a year….does she deserve to be singled out (nat supporter or not)?
               • Muttonbird …

                 4 February 2019 at 9:00 pm

                 She’s high profile. Of course she deserves to be singled out.

                 But back to the point I was trying to make, are the Waitangi celebration organisers deliberately constructing controversy at the Treaty grounds in order to promote their own brand?

                 One dickhead invited to speak might be an accident, but two is no accident.
                 • Pat …

                   4 February 2019 at 9:14 pm

                   are you speaking as well as Brash?
                   • Muttonbird …

                     4 February 2019 at 9:21 pm

                     Ha.

                     You’ve got your reasons for defending Ms Fox and that’s fine, but she hooked her cart to the party of personal responsibility so I guess she’s got to be judged on her decisions.
                 • Pat …

                   4 February 2019 at 9:37 pm

                   my only reason is natural justice
                   • Muttonbird …

                     4 February 2019 at 10:07 pm

                     I dare say that if the party Marama Fox hopped into bed with practiced natural justice instead of perpetuating bias, then some would go easier on her for her mistakes.
                   • marty mars …

                     4 February 2019 at 10:11 pm

                     You are the only one going hard on her – seems pretty petty because as Pat says so fucken many people do it and a small percentage get caught – have you ever driven when over the limit?

                     Natural justice is there because it was on the news and she has a high profile. Her shame is real.
   • Cinny 3.2

     4 February 2019 at 10:16 pm

     By crikey, the self proclaimed bishop of greed…….

     I don’t think anyone, let alone our own political poet laureate shane jones can help tamaki with his issues.

     PS…. Those destiny church groupies better show some respect and remove their patches before entering the grounds.
   • alwyn 3.3

     5 February 2019 at 10:09 am

     “I do now wonder if it might conveniently distract from the Prime Minister’s efforts there.”
     I am sure that the Labour Party hierarchy hope so.
     After Ardern’s appalling displays when interviewed on the morning News Programs today they will be desperate that anything she says is not reported.
     Could she not have spent just a bit of her six weeks of Christmas holidays in attempting to learn something about what her job entails?
     Her ignorance is totally terrifying.
     Can you imagine recent luminaries in the job such as Clark, Key or English not being able to bat away the questions that she failed to even comprehend?
     They of course worked at the job.
4. CHCoff 4

   4 February 2019 at 8:12 pm

   Good ole Teutonic precision, haha

   https://www.dw.com/en/german-town-votes-no-to-street-names/a-47345093
5. Muttonbird 5

   4 February 2019 at 9:15 pm

   Mr Taipari asks:

   “What [Don Brash] brings to the table is he’s a doctor, he’s been in some high positions, financial ones as well,” said Mr Taipari.

   “We’re trying to change the flavour and trying to be more innovative.

   “We want to create our own financial freedom, stop being dependent on the Government, stop having all these racist attacks on us that we’re some kind of bludging society.”

   He says if they want to change the narrative, they need to be creative.

   “If we’re gonna do that we’ve got to go to every corner of the community to get the information we need.”

   But Mr Brash is a theoretical economist and a lifetime public servant. Even RWNJs would not consider him a good source for entrepreneurial ideas because according to their definition Mr Brash has done nothing with his life!

   https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/02/waitangi-organiser-defends-innovative-decision-to-invite-don-brash-to-speak.html
   • DJ Ward 5.1

     4 February 2019 at 10:15 pm

     That’s a bit silly. Nothing with his life?
     He was Governer of the Reserve Bank. Leader of a major political party. That’s an achievement.

     I’ve never heard much about him actually creating and running buisnesses but I think there is a more important point here.
     He has been very critical of Moari relying on government. So this is a put up or shut up moment for Brash. Don’t criticise unless you have alternatives, and solutions.

     Some within Maoridom also see Brash as an enemy. So invite your enemy to speak. It’s the opposite strategy of those that think they win by stoping people having points of veiw that are not there own from speaking. It’s people that can’t win contests of ideas that do that.

     Good on the organisers.
     • Muttonbird 5.1.1

       4 February 2019 at 10:24 pm

       It is a major plank of right wing thought that lifetime civil servants and academics have no real life experience and as such have no mandate to speak on real life experience so that necessarily must apply to Mr Brash also.
       • solkta 5.1.1.1

         4 February 2019 at 10:27 pm

         They don’t “live in the real world”.
       • alwyn 5.1.1.2

         5 February 2019 at 10:21 am

         You merely display your ignorance with comments such as this.
         Were you aware that Brash was, from 1971 until 1988, in the following jobs?
         General Manager of Merchant Bank, Broadbank Corporation.
         Managing Director of the New Zealand Kiwifruit Authority.
         General Manager of Banking Group Trust Bank.
         Of course you weren’t, you silly little fellow.
         If you were you might, just might, have seen that your comments merely spew forth from a morass of ignorance.
     • Gabby 5.1.2

       5 February 2019 at 9:33 am

       All beltway stuff warty.
6. marty mars 6

   4 February 2019 at 9:38 pm

   talk about logic trev

   Last year Jacinda Ardern used her speech from the porch of the whare rūnanga, an honour women aren’t usually allowed, to declare the government had failed Māori in the justice system and would do better…

   … “Unfortunately what we know, is that we have over-representation of Māori in our prisons. Upwards of 50 percent,” Ms Ardern said.

   She said prison numbers have dropped overall and rehabilitation was working for Māori.

   “We’ve seen about 1000 fewer people in our prisons, and so any work that we do on rehabilitation programmes ultimately does benefit Māori.”

   but kev to the rescue

   “There’s some 40,000 people under Corrections’ watch, less than 10,000 of them now are in prison. Some 30,000 are out in the communities,” Mr Davis said.

   “So for groups that want to do work in prisons, I say to them actually get out into communities and work with the 30,000 out there who also need their support.”

   https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/381732/ardern-defends-govt-track-on-maori-prison-numbers

   ffs
7. James 7

   4 February 2019 at 10:00 pm

   https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/02/exclusive-provincial-growth-fund-has-created-just-54-jobs.html

   Still. At least it’s doing better than KiwiBuild.
   • Chris T 7.1

     4 February 2019 at 10:17 pm

     Lol

     That cracked me up when I saw it.

     Still. If it gets Winston his seat back, what’s a lazy 3 bill’ between friends?
   • Muttonbird 7.2

     4 February 2019 at 10:20 pm

     Extrapolating, that is 1600 jobs in the regions for the full spend which sounds like a modest number but is it really? Does it account for the the expansion of these enterprises and the other jobs which grow around such enterprises?

     Who will count these in years to come? The continuing benefit might be tens of thousands of young people with a future which wouldn’t have occurred under a National led government.
     • marty mars 7.2.1

       4 February 2019 at 10:37 pm

       yep – sadly bert and ernie will never get it because they are gnats. They just want to find the leaker and move on to policy lol
     • James 7.2.2

       4 February 2019 at 11:33 pm

       That’s still almost $500000 per job.

       Only a moron would think that is successful.
     • Alan 7.2.3

       5 February 2019 at 3:46 pm

       jumping the shark there MB, defending the indefensible.
8. Chris T 8

   4 February 2019 at 10:24 pm

   Care to shed any light on what the forecasts are from each of the money transactions?

   The plans?

   The expected minimum outcomes before budgets start getting pulled?
   • Muttonbird 8.1

     4 February 2019 at 10:28 pm

     I expect this is the red tape of which Jones speaks. Accountability, targets and expectations.

     Guys, do you want it done quick or do you want it done right?
     • Chris T 8.1.1

       4 February 2019 at 10:33 pm

       Right, but open and transparent.

       You know. Like Ardern promised before having to sack the “Open and transparent govt” Minister for not being open and transparent.
       • Muttonbird 8.1.1.1

         4 February 2019 at 10:37 pm

         Not sure what you are talking about. You’d like all these provincial entities to open their books to the public?
         • Chris T 8.1.1.1.1

           4 February 2019 at 10:41 pm

           No

           I would like the govt to open it’s books as to exactly what they gave the money for and what they are getting for it.

           The expected new job numbers for each project and the possible gains/verse losses projections per project.

           No internal detail for individual groups, just an overview, that you would hope like shit Jones read before giving cash over.
           • Drowsy M. Kram 8.1.1.1.1.1

             4 February 2019 at 11:19 pm

             https://treasury.govt.nz/information-and-services/state-sector-leadership/investment-management/plan-investment-choices/cost-benefit-analysis-including-public-sector-discount-rates/treasurys-cbax-tool

             And the PDF article in this link is a bit dated (July 2015), but I agree that a more transparent cost-benefit analysis of government (social) spending initiatives would be a plus.

             https://treasury.govt.nz/publications/guide/guide-social-cost-benefit-analysis

             It may be mostly BAU for the coalition government at the moment (few major improvements compared to the previous administration), but it is early days so here’s hoping for more transparency (and benefits) once some of these initiatives have been in place for at least a year.
       • patricia bremner 8.1.1.2

         5 February 2019 at 6:03 pm

         OH Key and English were So transparent!! Really???

         Live sheep export, Secret meetings with Hollywood, sudden wish to brand with his choice of flag. Millions wasted.
         You are rather selective about when you want transparency and accountability.

         Oh, and this money will be Loaned to and Repaid by Maori Land owners, not given or wasted.

         Did we get any of our money gifted to the three examples above back?
         No, in fact the first two saw more money go off shore, and the Flag well LOL.
         Away with your selective transparency rules. We see through you LOL LOL

         This is to establish, seed, start, support “Ready to go innovations and activities”
         Like planting manuka as food for bees, beginning job training before apprenticeships… all sound slow but steady stuff.
         Each time part of the money is tagged for accounting and administration as well.
         So you will be able to see who borrowed and what for.
         • Chris T 8.1.1.2.1

           5 February 2019 at 6:16 pm

           “What about them!!”

           Fantastic argument

           Just one point

           Did National claim they were going to be the bestest “Most open and transparent government ever”?
     • James 8.1.2

       4 February 2019 at 11:34 pm

       With this government you get neither.
9. Pat 9

   5 February 2019 at 6:09 am

   “At least a third of the huge ice fields in Asia’s towering mountain chain are doomed to melt due to climate change, according to a landmark report, with serious consequences for almost 2 billion people.

   Even if carbon emissions are dramatically and rapidly cut and succeed in limiting global warming to 1.5C, 36% of the glaciers along in the Hindu Kush and Himalaya range will have gone by 2100. If emissions are not cut, the loss soars to two-thirds, the report found.”

   https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/feb/04/a-third-of-himalayan-ice-cap-doomed-finds-shocking-report
10. patricia bremner 10

    5 February 2019 at 6:18 pm

    Pat, you won’t get any response from the resident trolls because they can’t twist those facts.

    Very scary scenarios happening, Including the report about rising sea levels affecting our fresh water reticulation both on the coast and even inland. Billions to avert/repair before another two generations pass.

    This is real fast and terrifying. People here have seldom experienced grass fires and how rapidly they can travel. We have seldom suffered with water shortages, but water borne illness goes with that as in Napier /Hastings.
    The 2 deg tipping point is possibly past already.

    We should be conserving our drinking water. A necessary of life.

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