Daily review 07/02/2020

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1. Muttonbird 1

   7 February 2020 at 6:52 pm

   While traditional forms of Christianity; Anglicanism and Catholicism seem to be suffering a drop in numbers in NZ, new forms are gaining strength, and do they have money!

   I was speaking to a colleague about the brand new Life Church on Normanby Road in Auckland which must have cost 7 or 8 figures not including the relocate deal from Auckland Council. She immediately said, "Go to Life, meet a wife".

   The blurb on the front page seems to back that up:

   Our Central Campus is the cumulative result of 6 years of negotiations, sacrifice and miracles which have resulted in God positioning LIFE with an iconic facility in a prime position in New Zealand's largest city.

   Our Campuses are open homes – places of connection and friendship where you can find and build genuine relationships. We invite you to hang around after our Sunday services for a coffee, some food and to meet some of the amazing people here at LIFE.

   Lol. The miracle presumably being that the government wanted to build a long needed underground rail system under their property!

   I don't have an issue with these churches being set up so people can hook up to bring people together – that is in fact one of the main purposes of congregation, is it not?

   However, Destiny Church seems to display a level of conceit, corruption, politicisation, and division which should not be the remit of a modern church.
   • Ad 1.1

     7 February 2020 at 8:14 pm

     Catholic numbers crush all of them, consistently.

     We vet for partners more accurately than Swiping Left will ever do.
2. Chris 2

   7 February 2020 at 7:10 pm

   MSD responds as if this is an isolated incident. It's not. It's now a run-of-the-mill situation for many many people and as a result MSD only care if it's made public. MSD's head office is full of sickeningly nasty inhumane arse-covering robots. I don't believe that humans are innately evil, but it's hard to believe that those who run the benefit-paying unit within MSD's head office are in fact human. And meanwhile, this government lets them run riot.

   https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119254843/carers-benefit-delays-force-mother-and-daughter-out-of-home
   • Rosemary McDonald 2.1

     7 February 2020 at 10:52 pm

     "MSD"s head office is full of arse-covering robots."

     Couldn't have said it better myself.

     I'd add that some front office staff are not overly reluctant to do the 'kick 'em when they're down' thing either.

     So much for the PSA…a decent union would have backed MSD workers in a push back against the Last Mob's instructions to drive the slackers off the benefit and into work…even if it drove them to suicide.

     I bet there was a sigh of relief from many in MSD when it finally dawned that The Current Incumbents were only joking about kindness and wellbeing.

     SSDD
     • patricia 2.1.1

       8 February 2020 at 9:33 am

       This Government has made moves in directions you wanted, are you pleased Rosemary?
3. Muttonbird 3

   7 February 2020 at 7:30 pm

   I'd like to give a general bouquet to the right wing with regard to the discussion on the 'No mates Simon' thread.

   I'd brought up the Waitangi Day post on Kiwiblog showing Maori savages attacking Tintin and Captain Haddock and contended that by posting/endorsing that cartoon, Farrar was promoting division and dog-whistling to his base.

   I still firmly believe that, but to his base I think they have done a great job in rejecting Farrar's racist advances having contributed only a very few comments on that thread.

   So, well done to commenters on that blog not taking the bait. There's hope yet.
4. Fireblade 4

   7 February 2020 at 7:32 pm

   God Is Dead?

   by Black Sabbath
   (Official Music Video)
   • Ad 4.1

     7 February 2020 at 8:15 pm

     The lead singer has cancer.

     God is just fine.
     • Muttonbird 4.1.1

       7 February 2020 at 8:50 pm

       Edgy.

       This sort of comment directed at a wealthy conservative christian on this blog today would have received an avalanche of outraged comments.

       Just saying.
       • Gabby 4.1.1.1

         8 February 2020 at 12:24 pm

         Like Rush Lungburn?
     • Fireblade 4.1.2

       7 February 2020 at 9:15 pm

       Ozzy has recently been diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. He doesn't have cancer.

       https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12302318
       • Sacha 4.1.2.1

         7 February 2020 at 9:24 pm

         Someone who loves the Old Testament will feel crushed.
5. mauī 5

   7 February 2020 at 7:50 pm

   The wonderful Mark Taylor (retired firefighter) gets a message from God and predicts Trump presidency. Amazing!

   Just waiting for the last part in the prophecy now, "God will clean out the news media."

   
   
   
6. Muttonbird 6

   7 February 2020 at 8:12 pm

   "We have listened to our players' concerns that the words of the anthem do not represent them or their families."

   A powerful statement from Australian First Nation players via the ARL Indigenous Council and the ARL.

   The Australian national anthem will not be played at this year's rugby league All Stars match on the Gold Coast.

   https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/51397141

   I think this is great. Aboriginal Australians are gaining confidence in standing up to centuries of entrenched racism in Australia.
7. Billy 7

   7 February 2020 at 10:58 pm

   Political violence is already being committed by people associated with, and inspired by, Destiny Church. If this escalates in some way, in respect of abortion or some other issue, Tamaki needs to be held responsible.

   He's the leader of a terrorist organisation. ManUp are militant bootboys who have changed who they follow (Tamaki, not Jesus) but not their stripes.

   You recruit former gang members with a tendency towards ruthlessness and violence and have them continue to dress in a way that is synonymous with violence, rape and other violations of others’ integrity and rights in order to intimidate, and potentially act as black and tans. In respect of the latter, they’ve already been doing that in a number of respects, it’s just not very well known, not yet.

   More damningly, I have reason to believe that some of the high-ups in Destiny Church have knowledge of criminal acts done in the name of the beliefs inculcated in them by and empowered by Destiny Church. Tamaki and his mates should be aware from their bible readings that with knowledge comes culpability. It’s in the first chapter. Hope to see it alight on the (sleepy, uncurious, overworked and underpaid) papermen before someone gets killed.
8. Robert Guyton 8

   8 February 2020 at 12:35 am

   Saved! Yay!

   https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119339109/removal-of-ouvea-premix-from-mataura-to-be-fast-tracked?fbclid=IwAR1NiO9NqDQyVlyQtB0sqUqMjqXtFB9Va2BWCJkeBDUJp84WxxqxbuCZ4rA
   • Graeme 8.1

     8 February 2020 at 8:05 am

     So, the Old Maid passed on, again, until the current disposal contractor goes tits up

     https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/southland/ammonia-threat-be-shifted

     So another abandoned warehouse has been found, hopefully it's better than the last ones, and preferably at Tiwai so their waste problem is back in their face.
     • Robert Guyton 8.1.1

       8 February 2020 at 8:07 am

       Hope they use secure trucks for the move. In the past, not so much…
9. pat 9

   8 February 2020 at 5:26 am

   The end of 'Growth'?…whether we like it or not

   https://youtu.be/dypQiaWdtIE

   https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/working-paper/2020/eight-centuries-of-global-real-interest-rates-r-g-and-the-suprasecular-decline-1311-2018.pdf?la=en&hash=5197703E8834998B56DD8121C0B64BFB09FF4881
   • J 9.1

     8 February 2020 at 7:32 pm

     Pat – Aaarrrggghhh!

     Two points I can always rely on: The owners of wealth want to continue to own their own wealth.

     They also want to own whatever is left of ours, so resulting in a global slave and master scenario. That is the global end goal. Yes?

     Can our iconic CEO of CEOs 'Bill Nighy' save us:

     https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=utube%2C+bill+nighy+on+transaction+tax

     Can it be just a transfer of Robin Hood transaction tax that redistributes resources more fairly?

     Back to trading in goods instead of paper money?

     This vid is dystopian and sounds like the end of civilization… As you can tell, it's completely over my head, which probably saves me a giant headache coming to those who do understand it.

     Or should I just start drinking Huxley's soma and hope humans still can drum up some humanity and ditch the bxxxards that put us in this position or is it a worthy position. Who can tell? 'Newspeak', I guess.
     • pat 9.1.1

       8 February 2020 at 10:23 pm

       Soma may be in order…or not, who knows?
10. roblogic 10

    9 February 2020 at 9:19 pm

    Bishop Tamaki ain't perfect but he has devoted his life to the South Auckland community. Maybe he says things you find offensive. But just consider the suffering of the poor that come to his door every day. This stuff doesn't come from nowhere

    How do you think it feels to be a working class Maori in Papatoetoe who has been sweating in a factory for 20 years, or driving a heavy vehicle, earning not much over minimum wage, and never getting ahead. In fact due to government policies you're going backwards

    You've saved a house deposit that would have been enough for a 20% deposit in 1990. But now it's not even 5%. Static wages and endlessly inflating property. And landlords that treat you like shit. And every government pretends to do something

    about runaway property values and inequality, but in reality they don't want to scare the sacred property market. The landlord just jacks up the rent every 6 months, so your wage rise does nothing. Meanwhile wealthy investors are soaking up all the land and houses that they can,

    with no penalty whatsoever. You drive to work every day for 30 years in a shitty old Toyota Corona, and you see wealthy young people who look like immigrants, cruise past you in Mercs and BMWs, on their way from their flash place in a nice new suburb, to their nice office

    And you feel somewhat miffed that you come from a proud people whose land and wealth was stolen, and all your friends are dirt poor, and foreigners are enjoying the fruits of this beautiful land of Aotearoa, while you and your family work 2 jobs each to make ends meet

    There are 2 New Zealands. And it is quite gross to see one passing judgement on the other, and taking offense at one thing Tamaki said (misquoted btw), without hearing the rest of it

    Nobody is all bad or all good. Everyone is deeply flawed. Judging and condemning another person for (non-criminal) thoughts, and leading a lifestyle you personally dislike (and even consider immoral), is a strange development in the woke mindset

    https://twitter.com/roblogic_/status/1225771461765300224?s=21

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