Daily review 09/09/2021

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1. Forget now 1

   9 September 2021 at 7:45 pm

   Yeah. I feel this (for somewhat different reasons). But you can't make other people's choices (or reactions to choices) for them.

   I know my dad means well. He just has a strange way of showing it…

   I may no longer be welcome in my family home. I might lose my relationship with my father.

   I could lose the memories we never got to make

   https://i.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/126337511/getting-the-covid19-vaccine-may-cost-me-my-family
   • Pete 1.1

     9 September 2021 at 9:18 pm

     I wonder if the person as a youngster had measles, mumps and rubella vaccinations or a tetanus shot at some stage?
   • Treetop 1.2

     9 September 2021 at 10:14 pm

     I would stand my ground were my family to disapprove and say that the decision to vaccinate was my decision to make.

     One of my siblings NZ Super age will not vaccinate. I just hope they do not regret it.
     • Brigid 1.2.1

       9 September 2021 at 11:00 pm

       I agree, and I similarly have differing opinions from one of my siblings. But neither of us would let this interfere with our relationship. We just accept and carry on.

       Although I dearly wish I could change her mind and make her understand the bullshit conspiracy theories she believes in are so hopelessly dumb and illogical.
2. Patricia Bremner 2

   9 September 2021 at 8:27 pm

   Forget Not, My 2pence about the article. Vaccinate or not?
   "You should hold your council. You have exercised your right to decide as an adult to vaccinate, and do not need to share your view if you know it will divide your family. I just hope you don't lose your Dad to the virus as some have overseas." Health first principle.
   • Forget now 2.1

     10 September 2021 at 11:27 am

     PB

     By that reasoning, shouldn't the father be keeping his own mouth shut rather than piping whatever antivax sewerage he has been swayed by onto his family?

     My own necessary medical treatment that has caused a rift between my father and myself isn't vaccine related. It was more the sense of trapped desperation that I recognized. Time helps, but that's not much of a consolation in the moment.
     • Patricia Bremner 2.1.1

       10 September 2021 at 3:14 pm

       Forget now.

       Parents often get strongly one eyed about certain things. Yes life is full of "well meaning" and even "cruel for your own good" people.

       "Trapped desperation", that is a familiar place. Not everyone is strong enough to make their own decision in the face of a barrage. Mine was twelve years of exercises and hospital visits after 'Polio.

       The decision to stop was my first venture into an adult stance to protect my mental health in the face of small physical gain but huge damage to my psyche.

       The child in us wants someone else to make difficult calls, but to be adult means making those calls for yourself. Lines get blurred when the habit of "pleasing" smudges the edges of choice.

       My Father felt I was repudiating his help and exercises for my physical recovery. My plea for time to have friends hobbies and a life other than 'Polio was a difficult patch for both of us. The day I graduated as a teacher he acknowledged he had taken a long time to accept that physical health was important but not all I had needed.

       Sometimes the bridge is never repaired. That must be hard and leave lasting scars.

       I hope your struggle whatever shape, will ease with time.
3. Tony 3

   9 September 2021 at 10:20 pm

   I will wager $1 that article was not written by the daughter of a father who is against vaccination, it reads as pure propaganda. I am vaccinated.
   • francesca 3.1

     10 September 2021 at 8:11 am

     Inclined to agree

     Not that I don't recognise there are plenty of situations as described

     But it doesn't read authentically to me.

     I am also fully vaccinated
     • Forget now 3.1.1

       10 September 2021 at 11:36 am

       Really? What particular part read inauthentically to you francesca? Sure, it looks like it has been sub-edited for publication. and links to other Stuff articles inserted, but the language use doesn't come across to me like journalist fabrication eg:

       This is a place we are sadly not unfamiliar with.

       My dad is a strong, loving, and protective man. However, he is often going to extremes to take care of his family.

       Tony – how would we determine the validity of authorship so I can collect that dollar? I don't think we can OIA Stuff, and journalists are known to protect their sources.
4. Chris 4

   9 September 2021 at 10:25 pm

   I think it's safe to say that if Judith Collins was PM, particularly after her recent outbursts, we'd have joined the Trump/Boris/Scomo-led countries who've had or still have clowns as leaders. We're so lucky in these times to have avoided her or those of her ilk.

   https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/114832273/jim-hubbard-cartoons
   • Patricia Bremner 4.1

     9 September 2021 at 10:35 pm

     So true Chris, but it is difficult even with great leadership. Apparently another covid patient was at Middlemore emergency department. This time staff were in full PPE. Another group of patients are locked down. The person was asymptomatic.!! Perhaps that is a further hurdle.
     • Treetop 4.1.1

       9 September 2021 at 10:47 pm

       Interesting consented to a Covid test but self discharged. I will follow this case.
       • McFlock 4.1.1.1

         9 September 2021 at 11:25 pm

         Apparently there on an unrelated matter and they did a precautionary test. Hopefully they'll find a link soon, assuming it's not historic or a false positive.
     • Chris 4.1.2

       9 September 2021 at 11:22 pm

       Yes, but I think those sorts of things, while important to address, are errors at the micro or deliver end that arise regardless of who's in government. I'm thinking more around the big policy decisions around the general approach taken. There's no question we'd be in a similar situation to NSW or worse. A couple of the South Island mayors say the government's got the balance between the health of the economy and the health of the nation wrong. It's that attitude that's caused the aussie states to go under. A National government would've without doubt sent us the same way. We're very lucky.
       • Graeme 4.1.2.1

         10 September 2021 at 8:07 am

         For those South Island mayors, the more likely position right now with a National government would be something like New Caledonia or Tahiti right on their doorstep.

         They both got through the initial phases of the epidemic not too bad, opened up their tourism industries and then got smacked hard by Delta. Transpose that thinking into South Westland and we'd have a catastrophe for the people and economy of that region.

         Right now they are going through another of their cyclic tourism downturns, a pretty good one granted, but shuttered tourism businesses in Fox aren't a recent phenomena. They will come back as the attraction, the Coast it's self, hasn't died. Another level of pain if a large proportion of the Coast community is laid out with covid. It's a long way to medical help.

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