Daily review 12/02/2020

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  1. Billy 1
    12 February 2020 at 5:38 pm

    Yas, Philosopher Queen-In-Chief:

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/02/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-praised-for-legendary-instagram-response.html

    Who needs DNcensorship measures when you’re holding devastating snapbacks?

    • I Feel Love 1.1
      12 February 2020 at 8:03 pm

      That's a great response and article, when National get to respond it's negative doom and gloom.

  2. ianmac 2
    12 February 2020 at 6:57 pm

    Jacinda's 2pm speech was brilliant.

    https://www.parliament.nz/en/watch-parliament/ondemand?itemId=210887

    Winston's was funny but sharp. (In response to Simon's dig about funding, Winston said whose voice did he hear rearranging the $100,000 gift? Why it was Simon's unless he was someone else talking to Jamie Lee.)

    https://www.parliament.nz/en/watch-parliament/ondemand?itemId=210889

  3. Anne 3
    12 February 2020 at 7:10 pm

    And look at those lovely young faces behind Bernie Sanders. Bright, diverse, laughing, open faced young Americans. Compare them to the poker faced, thin lipped cretins who stand behind Trump at his Rallies.

    • Cinny 4.1
      12 February 2020 at 7:47 pm

      Interesting disclosure at the end of the article…

      The Nevada Independent is a 501(c)3 nonprofit news organization. We are committed to transparency and disclose all our donors. The following people or entities mentioned in this article are financial supporters of our work:

      • Culinary Workers Union – $7,325
    • Andre 4.2
      12 February 2020 at 7:58 pm

      That illustrates the fundamental problem with the various Medicare-for-all proposals: half of Americans get health insurance through their work where the employer pays the majority of the cost.

      People really don't want to risk something they have now getting taken away from them, particularly when it's as valuable as healthcare. Even when it's promised to be replaced by something that should be better and leave them financially better off.

      So the polls that show Medicare-for-all being very popular take a downturn when it's properly explained that people would lose their existing coverage. So it's more realistic to look at it as Medicare-for-all-who-want-it being what actually polls well.

      • McFlock 4.2.1
        12 February 2020 at 8:56 pm

        Was reading a thing recently that reckoned employee health insurance took off when WW2 brought in worker shortages alngside a wage freeze. I'd always wondered why the yanks had such a weird system, that story seems to fit even if it was just as pop-culture listicle site.

        The devil is indeed in the implementation. I mean, it's not like the repugs can be trusted with medicare for all any more than they can be trusted with anything.

        • Andre 4.2.1.1
          12 February 2020 at 9:10 pm

          Yeah, wikipedia reckons the same. It’s a bit before my time …

          In the US, the benefits package is a big part of an employees compensation. The biggie is health insurance, but there's also 401k contributions (similar to kiwisaver), memberships to clubs etc, company recreational facilities, subsidised cafeterias and so on.

          In NZ the direct cost to hire someone is maybe 10% more than their salary or wages for stuff like kiwisaver, ACC employer levy etc. In the US that extra employer cost is commonly over 30% of pay, sometimes over 50%.

      • adam 4.2.2
        12 February 2020 at 11:40 pm

        Sheesh the talking points from the main stream media from the usual hard core ideologes for liberalism.

        What next Bernie will kill journalist on the street?



        Or you could try looking at real media

        https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/412545-70-percent-of-americans-support-medicare-for-all-health-care

        You do get that this is a left wing site? That one of the things the left does is solidarity across borders.

        Or you could go all tin foil, and repeat corporate media talking points.

        Chant together – "The RUSSIANS did it!!"

        • McFlock 4.2.2.1
          12 February 2020 at 11:58 pm

          So (assuming that your comment has some relevance to Andre's point) your position is that all folks with employer-based health insurance will view "medicare for all" as an excellent policy which will in no way endanger what they already have and thus negatively influence their vote?

          Feel free to expand on this insight in your own words (preferably in a conventional style of clearly stating a point and providing supporting argument, rather than another stream-of-consciousness performance piece).

          • adam 4.2.2.1.1
            13 February 2020 at 1:40 pm

            No offense McFlock, but as you make stuff up all the time – the conventional style with you is effectively pointless. It's a Don Quixote exercise I can't be bothered with.

            So have a nice day, and enjoy the lovely weather.

            And do try being happy about a left wing victory.

  5. Sacha 5
    12 February 2020 at 9:58 pm

    Winnie whinnies: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/409384/winston-peters-on-foundation-donations-i-did-not-receive-any-money

    "The reality is someone has stolen information here. We are pretty certain who that person is and it's capable of being traced but we're going to leave that to the police to decide."

    Someone who is no longer part of the party, mayhaps? Bridges' strident statements about the equivalent Nat situation may come in useful..

    • ianmac 5.1
      13 February 2020 at 9:49 am

      There must be other Parties who when in government received donations from entities who then had Bills raised which would benefit their cause. How about those parties that Key went to which spawned big money?

  6. millsy 6
    12 February 2020 at 10:19 pm

    It's good that Bernie won NH. However, it's a long way to go. Rather like making it through to morning drinks without losing any wickets on the first day of a Test.

    Super Tuesday will make things clearer. For the first time in a long time, it is a true contest.

    • mac1 6.1
      12 February 2020 at 11:12 pm

      Millsy, I don't think your beautiful cricket analogy would make things clearer for most American readers………… Puts me in mind of a bus trip in Turkey where a former US colonel and I discussed the differences and explained to each other the intricacies of cricket and baseball. He explained knuckle balls and changeups, and I spoke of flight and spin and drift.

    • mauī 6.2
      13 February 2020 at 10:06 am

      I see it more like who would lead the Black caps to victory? Guptill has just gone (trying his best to run out the captain), and now captain Williamson has seen off the opening bowlers, and has got his eye in. Plenty more cheap tricks await for him from his teammates… but in a woeful batting lineup Kane is the only one who can be there at the end.

  7. adam 7
    12 February 2020 at 11:10 pm

    Get use to it.